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Android app on Windows Surface 8.1

So I've been doing a lot of looking around and I got a surface w. 8.1 for work as I needed MS Office. The only thing that I would like to be able to do is to MOD it so that I can put Google play on it and run android apps. I see that there is application called BlueStacks an emulator, I downloaded the .exe but the surface gives me the message that it can't run the exe. I went into the device and configured it to all untrusted apps via a YouTube I found and that did not work.
I'm not looking to make major changes to it. I am happy with it but want to add my android app. Can anybody point me in the right direction? Btw I am a complete noob on how to do this.

eyesofice said:
So I've been doing a lot of looking around and I got a surface w. 8.1 for work as I needed MS Office. The only thing that I would like to be able to do is to MOD it so that I can put Google play on it and run android apps. I see that there is application called BlueStacks an emulator, I downloaded the .exe but the surface gives me the message that it can't run the exe. I went into the device and configured it to all untrusted apps via a YouTube I found and that did not work.
I'm not looking to make major changes to it. I am happy with it but want to add my android app. Can anybody point me in the right direction? Btw I am a complete noob on how to do this.
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I use DuOs. Haven't had one issue with it at all. It uses a newer version of android than bluestacks runs everthing like an android tablet would. They give you a free trial soo after that its not free. But i think the trial is like 30 days.

Cool do you have a direct link?

Ya I did some looking up online and it doesn't say a whole lot on where to start and get set up with the 30 day trial and what not. Any suggestions

Here's the link. Like i said, it's a free trial with all the features for 30 days. Then after that its a one time charge. I liked it soo much that I bought it and have been using it for a couple months without issues. Once installed you'll have to setup the android stuff just like its dual booting. You'll have to type in the wifi passwords and select the wifi networks. There's also a box to check in the android settings to give full root access to run android programs that require a rooted device. One thing that i recommend is closing the DuOs program completely when finished. You can switch between windows and android just like using a regular windows program but it doesn't like when windows goes in "sleep" mode while its running. I always close the program when i'm not using it. The app can be ended by entering windows task manager if it ever becomes unstable but i haven't experienced anything other than the waking up from "sleep" mode. I've noticed with several games that my surface running Duos, plays them smoother and more responsive than my Sony Xperia Tab Z. Hope this helps!
http://www.amiduos.com/

Thank you I downloaded the .exe and it will not run on my tablet. There was jail break .bat file that I ran on the surface but how do I check to see if it worked ?

eyesofice said:
Thank you I downloaded the .exe and it will not run on my tablet. There was jail break .bat file that I ran on the surface but how do I check to see if it worked ?
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What model surface are you using? Is the os win 8.1? Everything that i've installed on mine installed just like a pc.

windows rt 8.1
32 bit os
arm processor
2gb ram
NVidia tegra 3 quad core cpu 1.30GhZ
The error that I get states that it can't run this app on this PC.

eyesofice said:
windows rt 8.1
32 bit os
arm processor
2gb ram
NVidia tegra 3 quad core cpu 1.30GhZ
The error that I get states that it can't run this app on this PC.
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That's your problem there. As I understand it, you cannot install third party apps on the RT version of windows. You will only be able to install apps from the microsoft store.

Damn regretting RT 8.1 more an more everyday

Note Pro 12.2 - Fully Running Windows 10.

Hello All,
I know this may be a long shot, but at CES this week Samsung announced the new TabPro S running Win10. I got curios and saw my Note Pro with a huge screen and thought... "What if there's a way of getting Win10 running on my NotePro". So here i am, I've spent the better half of the night till morning searching the internet for a blimp of something related and came up with nothing. So im here today to ask:
1. Is it possible to boot Win10 on the NotePro?
2. How can i determine if it can or cannot?
3. Whats needed to make it work?
4. Find the blocks preventing it from working and find a way around it or thru it.
Would be cool to make it dual boot. Have it ask you "Android or Windows?" When it turns on. Lets make this happen!

The desktop version of Windows 10 does not support ARM, so it isn't possible. Windows 10 Mobile is designed for ARM but I would say that there is no way to get that version to boot either. And I don't think there is any reason to even try, as Android is really superior to Win 10 Mobile.

When you say Win10 mobile, do you mean Win10 IoT (Internet of Things)?
I know IoT is compatible with Raspberry Pi 2 and Arduino devices, I wonder if someone works on it, it could be installed on android tablets and phones...

Cube i7 Remix - Alternative OS

Cube i7 Remix needs another OS. Since neither Cube nor Jide seems to be interested in supporting this device, its time for us to unite to solve this problem. I will reply to this post with my several attempts.
Wish us luck,
Bradley Norris

Cube i7 Remix - Ubuntu
I created a bootable 'live' USB using Ubuntu 16.04.
Power up with it plugged into the OTG. My unit defaulted to booting from the USB. You may have to interrupt the boot cycle by pressing Escape to change the boot order.
1. It booted very quickly and used native resolution of 1920x1080.
2. Surprisingly fast, especially considering that I am operating off a USB.
3. No wifi. No touchscreen.
In theory, you can follow a procedure here (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2265190) to get wifi working, but I believe that is for the i7 with the Core M rather than the i7 remix.
The speed of Ubuntu, combined with native x86 applications and the new Unity touch interface would be a great combo. Does anyone know how to make this work? Topfreitas?

Cube i7 Remix - Windows
I created a Windows 10 install USB using Microsoft's own tool MediaCreationTool.exe (www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10).
Booting starts, but ends prematurely with a BIOS error.
I wonder if we could install from one of Cube's own devices. For example, the Cube i6 dual boot runs Windows on the same Baytrail (Intel Atom Z3735) chipset. In addition, they have an i10 and an iWork 11 that also use this chipset. (http://www.cube-tablet.com/download/) These downloads timeout before completion. Anyone else successfully download?
Teclast also makes model that is suspiciously familiar (probably built off of the same older Intel reference design): X16HD. Perhaps their version of Windows would work.

Cube i7 Remix - XJUbunTAB
Again in theory, this XJUbunTAB distribution was created with Baytrail tablets like our Cube i7 Remix in mind.
Here is the intro:
https://xjesus.net/xjubuntu/xjubunt...izable-distro-based-on-xubuntu-14-04-64-bits/
Here are the files:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/xjubuntu/files/
Again, I created a bootable USB and like Ubuntu, it boots quickly and runs wicked fast, but...
No wifi, even when I run their utility to fire it up: "Start WiFi RTL8723bs"
No touch.

Cube i7 Remix - Android-x86
Android-x86 is now up to 6.0!
http://www.android-x86.org/
Same as the other experiments, I created a bootable USB and tried it out:
Touchscreen not working (USB Mouse instead).
Wifi sees networks and allowed me to sign into one.
Screen resolution defaulted to 1024x768, so it looked large and fuzzy.
“Unfortunately, Google Play services has stopped.” Repeatedly.
Signed into my google account, and then froze on “Just a sec…”
Hard reboot, this time Wifi doesn’t work.
Any thoughts?

Cube i7 Remix - Remix OS for PC Hacked
One last attempt... Remix OS for PC Hacked presented here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/remix/remix-os/remix-os-pc-hacked-edition-ota-v2-0-201-t3345968
Well, boot, screen resolution, and wifi seemed to work fine in "Guest Mode", but on first run of an app, crash boom.

Hi Folks!
You can try use a version of Ubuntu developed for Intel 3735F. Burn a pendrive with it and run from OTG, you'll have wifi working out of the box, but after trying a lot, I gave up on trying fix touchscreen or sound...
In theory for this kind of device, you need to upgrade to linux kernel 4.3 to get touch working but you'll lost wifi. (I didn't tried that).
Hope it helps
https://plus.google.com/+IanMORRISON/posts/UNWdwRMqy3j

topfreitas said:
Hi Folks!
You can try use a version of Ubuntu developed for Intel 3735F. Burn a pendrive with it and run from OTG, you'll have wifi working out of the box, but after trying a lot, I gave up on trying fix touchscreen or sound...
In theory for this kind of device, you need to upgrade to linux kernel 4.3 to get touch working but you'll lost wifi. (I didn't tried that).
Hope it helps
https://plus.google.com/+IanMORRISON/posts/UNWdwRMqy3j
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Topfreitas - What did you try to get touchscreen/sound working?
From reading other forums, it as least sounds technically possible to get the Broadcom wifi working.
I don't know where to begin getting touchscreen or sound drivers.

Bradley Norris said:
Topfreitas - What did you try to get touchscreen/sound working?
From reading other forums, it as least sounds technically possible to get the Broadcom wifi working.
I don't know where to begin getting touchscreen or sound drivers.
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To get Wifi working is pretty easy if you try the ubuntu version developed by Morrison. To get touch working try to update the linux kernel to 4.3. Someone said that you can get touch working but you'll loose Wifi... Who knows I wish I knew more about linux and this kind of stuff.

Hi, was just wondering if you had any luck?

chichman said:
Hi, was just wondering if you had any luck?
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You can try the ISOs from linuxiumcomau.blogspot.com.
Everything seems work out of box, except the touch screen. (Touch screen is "ft5x0x_ts".)
(touch not okay, screen resolution correct, sound okay, wifi okay, bluetooth okay, battery stats okay)
Even the old iwork8 with CPU z3735d works nearly perfectly, with the touch screen working. (wifi okay, sound okay, bluetooth not okay)

Thanks for the reply, but I have now sold it..

Ubuntu Success
So I pulled this Cube i7 Remix out of the back of a cabinet and thought I should either make use of it or throw it away. Well, since I last attempted this, Linuxium has done considerable work developing specialized versions of linux for our ancient Atom-based processors and unique (read fussy) Broadcom radios.
I downloaded one of his prepackaged ISOs for Atom processors and was able to boot from a live USB. I installed, but the first attempt would not boot. I installed over the first installation and was then able to boot. It looks great and wifi works well, but I haven't gone much further than that yet. I am running 18.04.2 LTS. I used the default partitioning which resulted in:
512MB fat32 EFI System Partition /boot/efi
28.6GB ext4 root partition: /
HD Videos seem to play smoothly, but no audio yet. Linuxium has a fix, so I'll be working on the ALSA UCM audio drivers.
No touchscreen, but won't likely be able to fix that.
- Bradley Norris

No touchscreen
xubuntu 20.04 lts beta
wifi ok
bluetooth ok
sound ok
........
cube i7 remix / reeder a12ix

Windows 10 on ARM for Surface RT

Hello.
Microsoft is working on an ARM version of Windows 10. It is already possible to get this working on a Raspberry PI 2.
According to this article:
https://www.modmy.com/developers-successfully-run-windows-10-surface-rt
someobdy managed to get Windows 10 partially working on a Surface RT. Is there any update on this? Considering Microsoft has an ARM version of Windows 10, what are the issues in getting this working?

kephax said:
Hello.
Microsoft is working on an ARM version of Windows 10. It is already possible to get this working on a Raspberry PI 2.
According to this article:
https://www.modmy.com/developers-successfully-run-windows-10-surface-rt
someobdy managed to get Windows 10 partially working on a Surface RT. Is there any update on this? Considering Microsoft has an ARM version of Windows 10, what are the issues in getting this working?
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Windows 10 on ARM is exclusively for ARM64 devices. The version that runs on the raspberry pi 2 is Windows 10 IoT. Win10 iot can run on the surface tablet, but due to lack of apps, it is practically useless.

There is any news about win10 on arm on Surface rt ?

Lord-THX said:
There is any news about win10 on arm on Surface rt ?
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No

Thanks

https://m.ithome.com/html/469731.htm
Here ^^^^

wangxiaohu said:
Here ^^^^
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Does that really work on a Surface 2? I could never get nvpep to work, it would always cause a bluescreen on boot (irql_not_less_or_equal).
I can't download your Surface 2 English WIM from that site, can you tell me if there is there a mirror? Failing that a tip on how you got nvpep working would be interesting
Thanks!

wangxiaohu,
I managed to get your Surface 2 WIM, works great aside from the expected Bluetooth issue. Use the Uart16550tegra driver from Surface RT on Surface 2, once this is installed the Bluetooth will work.
Thanks to Ranomez for the tip

_CNR_ said:
Does that really work on a Surface 2? I could never get nvpep to work, it would always cause a bluescreen on boot (irql_not_less_or_equal).
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Just spotted where I went wrong. I've been using sdbus.sys and sdstor.sys from a factory Surface 2 RT8.1 install, using these got me to desktop but I could never get nvpep to work without a BSOD on boot. Just noticed the sdbus.sys from the Chinese WIM is older than the one I took from my Surface 2 RT8.1 install.
sdbus 9.3.9600.16497 bad, 9.3.9600.16384 good. Combo of any nvpep and sdbus 9.3.9600.16497 under 15035 will break it.

wangxiaohu said:
https://m.ithome.com/html/469731.htm
Here ^^^^
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Wait what?!? Is this the real Windows 10 ARM Edition running on a Surface RT/2? Not IoT? If so, where did this come from? I thought Windows 10 ARM Edition was ARM64 not ARM32. I can kind of follow it, but relying on browser translation of the page...

domboy said:
Wait what?!? Is this the real Windows 10 ARM Edition running on a Surface RT/2? Not IoT? If so, where did this come from? I thought Windows 10 ARM Edition was ARM64 not ARM32. I can kind of follow it, but relying on browser translation of the page...
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Yes. But it's also last build that can run ARM32. We won't see newer version of Windows 10 on rt most likely.

domboy said:
Wait what?!? Is this the real Windows 10 ARM Edition running on a Surface RT/2? Not IoT? If so, where did this come from? I thought Windows 10 ARM Edition was ARM64 not ARM32. I can kind of follow it, but relying on browser translation of the page...
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_CNR_ said:
Does that really work on a Surface 2? I could never get nvpep to work, it would always cause a bluescreen on boot (irql_not_less_or_equal).
I can't download your Surface 2 English WIM from that site, can you tell me if there is there a mirror? Failing that a tip on how you got nvpep working would be interesting
Thanks!
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Yes it works... There are some caveats not stated in the instruction.

wangxiaohu said:
Yes. But it's also last build that can run ARM32. We won't see newer version of Windows 10 on rt most likely.
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That's really cool! I had no idea there was a build of Windows 10 ARM Edition that would run on the Surface RT/2. Thanks for posting the link to those instructions!
I suspect you're correct about no newer builds. Though considering my old Surface RT is still running RT 8.0 for the jailbreak, any version of 10 would be a lot newer. Am I correct in assuming all the open-source apps compiled for RT (since they're ARM32) would also run on this build of Windows 10? I'm going to have to try this when I get some time.

domboy said:
That's really cool! I had no idea there was a build of Windows 10 ARM Edition that would run on the Surface RT/2. Thanks for posting the link to those instructions!
I suspect you're correct about no newer builds. Though considering my old Surface RT is still running RT 8.0 for the jailbreak, any version of 10 would be a lot newer. Am I correct in assuming all the open-source apps compiled for RT (since they're ARM32) would also run on this build of Windows 10? I'm going to have to try this when I get some time.
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I want to set expectation clear that I still find rt with Windows 10 useless since it's doesn't have any perf improvement. Experience is awful. Camera doesn't work. Photo and Mail apps don't install. Edge browsing is more compatible with sites than IE, but extremely slow.... So, don't bother unless u want to enjoy the 'upgrade' per se.

wangxiaohu said:
I want to set expectation clear that I still find rt with Windows 10 useless since it's doesn't have any perf improvement. Experience is awful. Camera doesn't work. Photo and Mail apps don't install. Edge browsing is more compatible with sites than IE, but extremely slow.... So, don't bother unless u want to enjoy the 'upgrade' per se.
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I appreciate the warning! I am not surprised to hear that it is slow, otherwise Microsoft might have actually released it officially. I probably will wait to try this until I have no other use for the device (once the Netflix app stops working). Still, it's neat to see it is actually possible.

wangxiaohu said:
Yes. But it's also last build that can run ARM32. We won't see newer version of Windows 10 on rt most likely.
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There are apparently newer ARM32 builds but its very unlikely we will ever get to see them and as it stands I think we are lucky to have 15035.
wangxiaohu said:
I want to set expectation clear that I still find rt with Windows 10 useless since it's doesn't have any perf improvement. Experience is awful. Camera doesn't work. Photo and Mail apps don't install. Edge browsing is more compatible with sites than IE, but extremely slow.... So, don't bother unless u want to enjoy the 'upgrade' per se.
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My nvpep troubles:
I found where I was going wrong with my WIM (thanks to your WIM) and what was causing nvpep to trigger a BSOD on boot. I don't understand the underlying cause but I was using sdbus 9.3.9600.16497 from my Surface 2 RT8.1 install (Surface2_BMR_20.2.19.0 recovery media), once I switched to sdbus 9.3.9600.16384 everything was fine.
Once that was sorted I was able to make my own working WIM and I've been playing with making it work as well as possible on my Surface 2:
Error on first boot:
Before allowing 15035 to boot for the first time create a new directory (\EFI\Microsoft\Recovery) and create an empty BCD store there.
Camera fix:
Code:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows Media Foundation\Platform]
"EnableFrameServerMode"=dword:00000000
Bluetooth fix:
Use the Uart16550tegra driver from Surface RT on Surface 2, once this is installed the Bluetooth will work.
Edge Tweaking:
Edge can be made a little better from about:flags - enable canary and allow high memory usage. This is not my tip but it seems to help, only real issue I have with Edge at the moment is YouTube but I've been told to give myTube a try.
Build Expired Nag Window:
Delete File \Windows\System32\LicensingUI.exe
Apps Working:
So far managed to get working the following MS apps: Onedrive, Remote Desktop, Skype, Photos, Camera, Scan, Films & TV, Mail & Calendar. Oh, and also an old version of Maps that still works - GPS is good. Third party apps tried so far - Team Viewer & VLC.
Pictures: https://imgur.com/a/ujnLlFI

List of apps that that seem to work on Windows 10 15035 so far - newer versions may work but would require manifest mods:
Code:
Microsoft.DesktopAppInstaller_2019.1019.1.0_neutral_~_8wekyb3d8bbwe
Microsoft.WindowsStore_11811.1001.2713.0_neutral_~_8wekyb3d8bbwe
Microsoft.MicrosoftSkyDrive_17.30.3.0_neutral_~_8wekyb3d8bbwe
Microsoft.RemoteDesktop_10.1.1107.0_neutral_~_8wekyb3d8bbwe
Microsoft.SkypeApp_12.1815.210.1000_neutral_~_kzf8qxf38zg5c
Microsoft.Windows.Photos_2017.35063.44410.1000_neutral_~_8wekyb3d8bbwe
Microsoft.WindowsCamera_2017.727.40.2000_neutral_~_8wekyb3d8bbwe
Microsoft.WindowsScan_2014.523.326.3026_neutral_~_8wekyb3d8bbwe
Microsoft.ZuneVideo_2019.18052.10711.0_neutral_~_8wekyb3d8bbwe
Microsoft.WindowsCommunicationsApps_16005.11001.20116.0_neutral_~_8wekyb3d8bbwe.appxbundle
Microsoft.WindowsMaps_4.1509.50912.0
TeamViewer.31414B719FA93_15.0.100.0_neutral_~_89446h4zmeyyt
VideoLAN.VLC_3.2.1.0_neutral_~_paz6r1rewnh0a
Not exactly current in some cases but they still seem to function.
These I have installed but not used. It would be a surprise if the wireless display worked (I don't have the adapter) and I'm not a telegram user but will sign up to test later.
Code:
Microsoft.SurfaceWirelessDisplayAdapter_3.4.137.1000_neutral_~_8wekyb3d8bbwe
38833FF26BA1D.UnigramPreview_3.6.2286.0_neutral_~_g9c9v27vpyspw
I'm not really a big app user so I've just been adding stuff to make 15035 feel a little less empty
There is this version of Maps:
Code:
Microsoft.WindowsMaps_2017.1003.1829.0_neutral
Should work on 15035 but it requires 15063 as a minimum to install and I have not looked into what's required to modify the manifest, repack and sign yet. For the moment I've focused on what will work without too much trouble.

Qiangong2 said:
No
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@Qiangong2
Are you going to try this? Need your feedback.

k4955 said:
@Qiangong2
Are you going to try this? Need your feedback.
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I tried but the install was so glitchy that I reverted back to RT 8.1.

Qiangong2 said:
I tried but the install was so glitchy that I reverted back to RT 8.1.
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Once installed its not bad, I've got a dual boot setup on my Surface 2 just to be on the safe side though.

XGODY A90 Pro; Root and Anglicise?

I have had to get hold of a phone, rapido and cheapo - which meant me having to bypass a replacement iPhone option;
Now I have purchased for just a pony a Chinese XGODY android phone, which works - however I am having many issues rooting it and anglicising the rom/recovery/bootloader. And of course updating the OS; it says it's running 10, but as far as I can tell that is BS, it is running either 5 or 6 - lollipop or marshmallow.
Now I need a little advice on what to do to put a newer OS on it; or preferably put a linux based OS on it
NB. I run Linux mint, but also have a vmware win11 I can spin up;
Ps. I do also have OTG connector
Any advice would be great; I have reinstalled devices before, HP Touchpad from WebOS to Android, using Cyanogennod and TWRP; but am stuck on this Chinese bugger; there doesn't even seem to be anything about it on web or forums anywhere;
Thanks for your comments/advice