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New phone buying advice please !!

I am going to spend some money on buying a CDMA android device pretty soon for my father. Its a unlocked CDMA phone running android 2.3. Model (MTS mtag 352) which is actually a zte device. The deal is I am able to buy a new piece for only $80.
Details:
http://www.mtsindia.in/smartphones/MTag352/index.html
Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9H3-JMfxod4
The device won't be used for multimedia much at all. Very rarely for browsing. Mainly for phone and contact management. No audio storage no video storage either.
My only worry is the device sports only 256 mb ram and 140 mob internal memory. So do you think for the usage I described , the mentioned specs are good enough ? Mainly memory ?
Apologies if the post is not in the right section, but I couldnt find the device having a specific forum section so am posting this in q and a here.
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rajdeeprath said:
I am going to spend some money on buying a CDMA android device pretty soon for my father. Its a unlocked CDMA phone running android 2.3. Model (MTS mtag 352) which is actually a zte device. The deal is I am able to buy a new piece for only $80.
Details:
http://www.mtsindia.in/smartphones/MTag352/index.html
Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9H3-JMfxod4
The device won't be used for multimedia much at all. Very rarely for browsing. Mainly for phone and contact management. No audio storage no video storage either.
My only worry is the device sports only 256 mb ram and 140 mob internal memory. So do you think for the usage I described , the mentioned specs are good enough ? Mainly memory ?
Apologies if the post is not in the right section, but I couldnt find the device having a specific forum section so am posting this in q and a here.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app
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buy to him a jiayu g3, 2750mha battery, 1g ram, dual core cortex a7, 4,5 screen, sd support, gorila glass, 2 sim capacity, and more! and isnt expensive, it can be chinese, but it is even better that this. i love it, or a jiayu g2, it is nearly the same, but a bit smaller with less things
if you can pay more than 80, or a jiayu g1 even cheaper, there are very cheap phones in internet
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The thing is even though I want to buy better I am avoiding purposely. In India currently there are absolutely no good android CDMA handsets. While I did think of getting from us via eBay, it won't help much. He uses his phone for nothing other than talking. So In my view a android device with gtalk is better than non his android CDMA device.
So what's your view regarding that device. I am mainly worried about running out of memory with only sms and contacts.
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Can someone tell me if one can manage with 128 mob internal memory on a android device ? If its not used for any applications , just contacts, phone calls,SMS and gtalk at most. ?
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Xperia L-Discussion(Bugs,Roots,apps,themes)

Hey, so I have already made a X.L thread before now i'll report that thread to be merged with this.
Use this thread to post all root methods etc
Sony Xperia L Specifications
OS Android 4.1.2 (Jelly Bean)
RAM 1 GB
Processor 1 GHz dual core Qualcomm[Krait]
Graphics Adreno 305 GPU
Display 4.3″ capacitive touchscreen (multi touch input)
Resolution 854 x 480 pixel
Battery 1750 mAh
Camera 8 MP auto focus camera with Led Flash and HD recording
Front-facing Camera 0.3 MP
Connectivity 3G, WiFi, Bluetooth, A-GPS, NFC
Ports micro USB and 3.5 mm audio jack
Internal Memory 8 GB (5.5 GB usable)
External Memory up to 32 GB microSD
ROOTING-http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=42150929
FACEBOOK GROUP https://www.facebook.com/groups/199240316894717/?notif_t=group_r2j_approved
Xperia L Kernel https://github.com/varunchitre15/android_kernel_xperiaL
Thanks to @varun.chitre15
Every now and then a person ask's why can't I see photos in Album?
Solution:Clear Data/Cache in setting>apps
For a permanent fix,Just update your phone

I will get mine next week as of now searching to find the cheapest deal Meanwhile request here for a forum if you haven't already - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1660354&page=842

Hope so ROM will improve the display and battery life, I will pick mine up probably this week

^depends on popularity, as of now L doesn't have much of a competition in its price range (apart from l9 with inferior specs) so its more or less bound to get some decent activity here and if that happens we'll easily attract devs

Any one bought it yet? It was selling for 16k in hs18 2 days back

I have using mine for a week and I love it. I moved from an Xperia Neo to this phone, they aren't coparable. I can hardly wait for rooting.

Future Xperia L User
In a few hours from now, i will be holding on to my Xperia L bought from Malaysia!
Woohoo!! can't wait to feel it and experience the positive reviews of it!
Well, downside do exist, but to those people who say that this phone is a crap, hold it right there and keep it to yourself.. haha!!
Let's make it popular!

theserpent said:
Hope so ROM will improve the display and battery life, I will pick mine up probably this week
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The display is good. I had S2 and hated over-saturated colors and the tint, O.O Battery life is good, too. There's a slight problem with the bloatware draining battery uselessly and the famous media scanner bug in 4.1.x
It's a good phone in this range, probably the best. Although Camera is a little too horrible.
Sent from my C2104 using Tapatalk 4 Beta

I found the camera "OK", will buy mine tomo for 16.5k i.e after selling my E6

Some perspective when it is added XDA forum? I'm between it and the Xperia SP, but the SP is bigger screen ...

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Some perspective when it is added XDA forum? I'm between it and the Xperia SP, but the SP is bigger screen ...
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Xperia SP Got its forum today We can expect Xperia L To get one within a month

theserpent said:
Xperia SP Got its forum today We can expect Xperia L To get one within a month
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Ok bro, had not seen!!! :victory:

I am thinkin of buying this one in a 2 weeks my budget is rs.20000(approx 350usd)
or sp if i could raise my budget a bit
i wanted to knw the gaming performance of this device and is it better than s2 except for super amoled display?

I'm making an autoroot kernel for XL which will also help you in getting a separate forum as well. I may also work on a custom kernel to remove capped 1 GHz frequency.
Can anyone send me stock kernel.sin?

TheCloneGamer said:
I am thinkin of buying this one in a 2 weeks my budget is rs.20000(approx 350usd)
or sp if i could raise my budget a bit
i wanted to knw the gaming performance of this device and is it better than s2 except for super amoled display?
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Well Xperia L is a beast for it's price you should go for it , gaming you can check in youtube,
btw it got 58 fps in nenamark benchmark

TheCloneGamer said:
I am thinkin of buying this one in a 2 weeks my budget is rs.20000(approx 350usd)
or sp if i could raise my budget a bit
i wanted to knw the gaming performance of this device and is it better than s2 except for super amoled display?
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Rachit Rawat said:
I'm making an autoroot kernel for XL which will also help you in getting a separate forum as well. I may also work on a custom kernel to remove capped 1 GHz frequency.
Can anyone send me stock kernel.sin?[/QUOTE]
Sorry,but whats that?
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theserpent said:
Rachit Rawat said:
I'm making an autoroot kernel for XL which will also help you in getting a separate forum as well. I may also work on a custom kernel to remove capped 1 GHz frequency.
Can anyone send me stock kernel.sin?[/QUOTE]
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kernel.sin?
will be present in ftf file but i guess any one who has xperia l can give boot.img
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TheCloneGamer said:
theserpent said:
kernel.sin?
will be present in ftf file but i guess any one who has xperia l can give boot.img
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I am a complete NOOB is this stuff :|, Maybe a experienced user can help.
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I will help you to get ftf firmware file. So if you break anything with rooting or somehow you can always go back to what your phone came when you bought it. A complete noob can do it.
You only need to reflash your phones firmware with SMUS and upload few files to web.
You don't void warranty and you do not need root.
It'll help you to get forums maybe
Interested PM me, it will cost you nothing I promise.

Rachit Rawat said:
I'm making an autoroot kernel for XL which will also help you in getting a separate forum as well. I may also work on a custom kernel to remove capped 1 GHz frequency.
Can anyone send me stock kernel.sin?
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it is not a very good idea to work blindly for a device (especially kernels)
to be specific I would like to say
1. do not work blindly on a device if you do not own at least a similar device (similar or same SoC and vendor, like all the 2011 Xperias)
2. even if working on a device is not a problem, releasing it to a place like XDA makes it a tad dangerous for the users.

VOYO A18 Exynos 5410 Rom Development

VOYO A18 Exynos 5410 quad core+quad core=eight core 3G tablet PC,9.7" 2048*1536,bluetooth 4.0,GPS tablet pc
Voyo A18 is a superb android tablet. Its software needs development. I urge to every senior member and Guru to guide us and make this tablet worthwhile.
official website id:http://www.myvoyo.com/

Updates!
By courtesy of senior members like cracktech now we have modified Rooting Tools for A18 to include installation of busybox:http://www.mediafire.com/download/3oo5um49cq3k6vq/RootTool_VoyoA18%2Bbusybox.zip
latest evrsion fo VROOt for those wanting automated Rooting :http://www.mediafire.com/download/q61vhntk9da88tm/VRoot_1.7.3.4388_Setup.exe
Guys you need to see this thread too for few problems with A 18 and please recommend solutions http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48809151#post48809151

Known Problems with A18
No service issue.--resolved after new update of 25 dec thanks to @cracktech.
Tablet crashing/ restarting- still exist, any help?

Necessary information
Information mentioned below has been taken from another thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48829170#post48829170
in order to discuss all voyo a18 issues at one place. credit goes to all participating members like, @cracktech , @lijianwei.
Firmwares::highfive:
1. 16-Dec-2013 http://www.myvoyo.com/xiazai/pingban/A18/2013/205.shtml
2. 25 Dec -2013 with root tools by @cracktech http://www.needrom.com/mobile/latest-release-25-dec-2013-voyo-a18-firmware/
3. 25 Dec-2013 (DPI CHANGED) http://d-h.st/P7H
Issues
1. my earlier post:""1.it used to crash almost 3-4 times and was hoping next firmware update will solve this but even after updating 16-Dec update it still has the problem. Now i tried another fix that I have fully charged it and then cleared the battery stats from root tools app from Google play.I can see great improvement in battery draining and so far there is none switch off issue,but I will update about it later.
2. This tab has got Huawei ultra stick 3g mobile broadband. I am experiencing signal problem most of the time. And if I turn off the screen there is no cellular service after that until I reboot. Solved in 25 Dec update.
3. Most important thing. When I bought this piece it used to produce static noise (heard clearly in speakers)very much while charging/not charging, screen flicker and used to get crash. I though it was due to poor quality control of Chinese mfr and so disassembled whole tab again assembled it and re rooted speakers wires as they were very close to battery wires..after all this binary I don't get now the said problems.
In the end I pay my respects to all especially cracktech and datagr for helping out all members. I hope you ppl will help solving the problems of this device as its a very good hardware just need right software.
Sent from my A18 using xda app-developers app""
any body else having such issues please share. and any suggestion on crashing issue

Firmware updates
The above firmware especially between #2 and #3 are not the same the #2 is dated 25-Dec and the #3 is dated 24_Dec, I dont know the changes maybe the issues from the 24-Dec are quickly caught by the factory.
2. (s9702_gpsv3_yongjiahe_20131225 for #2 in the list) another link : http://www.mediafire.com/download/08c76zcoxykidh9/VOYO A18_release_20131225.zip
3. (s9702_gpsv3_yongjiahe_20131224 for #3)
I have yet to study the firmware to improve and how to automate the installation of improvements like GPS improvements, market improvements and build.prop, framework folders.
Stallionrider, are you facing issues with the DPI and crashes even in the latest updates or are they solved?

Feedback New Rom VOYO A16 dated 24 dec
cracktech said:
The above firmware especially between #2 and #3 are not the same the #2 is dated 25-Dec and the #3 is dated 24_Dec, I dont know the changes maybe the issues from the 24-Dec are quickly caught by the factory.
2. (s9702_gpsv3_yongjiahe_20131225 for #2 in the list) another link : http://www.mediafire.com/download/08c76zcoxykidh9/VOYO A18_release_20131225.zip
3. (s9702_gpsv3_yongjiahe_20131224 for #3)
I have yet to study the firmware to improve and how to automate the installation of improvements like GPS improvements, market improvements and build.prop, framework folders.
Stallionrider, are you facing issues with the DPI and crashes even in the latest updates or are they solved?
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After talking to support centre the rom which i received was good in a way that cellular service improved. But DPI was set to 239 and everything was out of shape i could not even run swiftkey keyboard. Crashing issue is still there i ran Antutu benchmarking i got random results like 24222 and 134444 and rom was still crashing but only in games in my experience unlike before when it used to give random crashes..i have now reflashed with userdata.img and system.img files of 24 dec and rest all files from 16 Dec, I got back again to good DPI but i think i might have signal problem with screen off. i will get back when after observing it.
cracktech do anywhere in rom after installation we can see changelog as i could not find. i think before making any of the improvement you are mentioning first we should have a stable rom. Can you ask some senior help in this regard?

Feedback 25 dec rom
guys just downloaded 25 dec rom from official site they have corrected DPI and cellular, lets see if there is more bugs and crashing issue:cyclops:

Hello everyone. I'm shopping for a new tablet, and I see you guys have something going with this. I just wanted to see would it be worth buying this tablet? Right now, its this or the Pipo M8 HD. One of many concerns is the battery, especially with the Octa core cpu. It would be nice to be able to see that improve. How many hours at current will the tablet last in standby and causal use? Thank you very much.

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Dvalin21 said:
Hello everyone. I'm shopping for a new tablet, and I see you guys have something going with this. I just wanted to see would it be worth buying this tablet? Right now, its this or the Pipo M8 HD. One of many concerns is the battery, especially with the Octa core cpu. It would be nice to be able to see that improve. How many hours at current will the tablet last in standby and causal use? Thank you very much.
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VOYO a16 is claimed to be octa core, but seriously i dont think so i am not sure different benchmark apps show it as arm7 quad core but i amnot expert may be cracktech can tell. we had few problems of firmware in begining but after 25 dec update i dont see any proble just played real racing 3 and world war z game no crashing etc. in my experience battery runs for 3-4 hours of constant gaming and wifi use. otherwise more than a day on standby. and one thing more before you buy i can just tell you i dont know if its Octa core but i am loving it

For those of you who want to RISK the purchase of VOYO
stallionrider21 said:
VOYO a16 is claimed to be octa core, but seriously i dont think so i am not sure different benchmark apps show it as arm7 quad core but i amnot expert may be cracktech can tell. we had few problems of firmware in begining but after 25 dec update i dont see any proble just played real racing 3 and world war z game no crashing etc. in my experience battery runs for 3-4 hours of constant gaming and wifi use. otherwise more than a day on standby. and one thing more before you buy i can just tell you i dont know if its Octa core but i am loving it
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This is a copy of e-mail I receive from a seller from China (for those that want to risk and forgo warranty claims (I would risk it for the price that is being quoted) to purchase it from China wholesale prices.
Dear Mr Dzulkifly Yusof,
How are you doing? Merry Christmas and enjoy a happy holiday! Order from us will get free shipping by EMS and a pretty extra gift now.
Order 3pcs will get 1pcs free;Order 5pcs will get 1pcs smartphone Xiaomi Mi3 64GB unlocked;Order 10pcs will get 1pcs Apple iphone 5S 64GB unlocked.
9.7'' tablet Voyo A18(IPS 2048x1536/Octa-core 1.6GHz/Android 4.2/GPS/3G phone call/Bluetooth/WIFI/Dual camera) ---------------US$125
Warranty: 1year international warranty.
Shipping time: within 24hours.
Delivery time: 3-5days.
Return policy: Any defective or not satisfied pls send it back within 15days and we will give full refund.
Payment term: We support Western Union and T/T bank transfer.
Looking forward to hearing from you. With respect!
Yours sincerely,
Julia.
[email protected]
These are the e-mails I got from China and I am buying a few pieces to sell locally in Malaysia.(you guys should see the prices for Apple iPad it is below USD 200!Originals! DELL Laptops are all below USD200 for an i7 PC)
To check whether it is a true Octa Core (which it is) download and install this on your device to test it Big/Little endian four big and 4 small just to allay your fears.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/kgs5oz7px9x89tp/com.bigLittle.checker_1.0.apk
Best regards.
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stallionrider21 said:
VOYO a16 is claimed to be octa core, but seriously i dont think so i am not sure different benchmark apps show it as arm7 quad core but i amnot expert may be cracktech can tell. we had few problems of firmware in begining but after 25 dec update i dont see any proble just played real racing 3 and world war z game no crashing etc. in my experience battery runs for 3-4 hours of constant gaming and wifi use. otherwise more than a day on standby. and one thing more before you buy i can just tell you i dont know if its Octa core but i am loving it
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VOYO A16 (???) I am not aware that they had that model, only A18 is an OCTA Core the rest are duo core or quad core device.The A15 is duo core Exynos 5250 but with a whopping 11.5 inch screen, the X6 is single core
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stallionrider21 said:
guys just downloaded 25 dec rom from official site they have corrected DPI and cellular, lets see if there is more bugs and crashing issue:cyclops:
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Stallionrider,
Please keep us updated have you rooted the firmware yet using the roottools given? Glad to know that they corrected the DPI settings in the 25-Dec firmware. They are sure moving very fast on the updates 24-Dec and 25-Dec version in one go. I am waiting for my PiPo M9Pro which is getting its KiTKat version anyday now updated from 4.2.2.
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The 25_Dec firmware included with RootTools for VOYO A18 for those that dont want to wait for the slow China links. :
http://www.needrom.com/mobile/latest-release-25-dec-2013-voyo-a18-firmware/
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stallionrider21 said:
guys just downloaded 25 dec rom from official site they have corrected DPI and cellular, lets see if there is more bugs and crashing issue:cyclops:
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For faster download from US web the file included together with RootTools for the 25-Dec version. have to register (free) on NeedROM site)
http://www.needrom.com/mobile/latest-release-25-dec-2013-voyo-a18-firmware/

Reply @ cracktech
First. i apologize for reffering A18 as A16, it was just a silly mistake.Let me second cracktech that this device is really paying its price. Good solid hardware with amazing performance (and cheap).
@cracktech i am sure it will be octa core i was not just sure how to check it. thanks for upload.
Friends i feel it easy to root with automatic tool provided by cracktec (vroot) it is pretty easy and quick and works with most devices.
by the way 25 Dec update is up on official chinese website too.
Cracktech sir, its a pleasure to learn from you. Can you tell me something about pipo m9 pro is it worth buying it, it is RK3188 Quad core, good battery 32 gb and in china i can get it for about 173 USD. normally chinese tablets dont have good camera etc? and is RK chipset are good?

Excellent
stallionrider21 said:
guys just downloaded 25 dec rom from official site they have corrected DPI and cellular, lets see if there is more bugs and crashing issue:cyclops:
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stallionrider21 said:
First. i apologize for reffering A18 as A16, it was just a silly mistake.Let me second cracktech that this device is really paying its price. Good solid hardware with amazing performance (and cheap).
@cracktech i am sure it will be octa core i was not just sure how to check it. thanks for upload.
Friends i feel it easy to root with automatic tool provided by cracktec (vroot) it is pretty easy and quick and works with most devices.
by the way 25 Dec update is up on official chinese website too.
Cracktech sir, its a pleasure to learn from you.
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Stallionrider we dont need to refer to ourselves as YES SIR/NO SIR just my our handle name (cracktech/stallionrider). and NO need for apologies we all make mistakes and i am not an expert just experienced through using various devices from Android 2.2 to 4.3 and CWM/TWRP ROMs,I am only about 4 years old on Android but I started off at INTEL Corpn using IBM DOS 1.0 to MS DOS and Windows 7 and learning up on Win8 now since 1970's and had seen COMPAQ grow from a US Taiwanese part workshop assembler to what it is(was) right now.
I dont do this Android stuff for money I am on various Forums helping out other people and happy that my suggestions are successful in helping out problems. I am on RK3188 Quad Core Forums, AML DuoCoreForums and now with your port OctaCoreForums.
I maybe thinking of starting an online store regionally to start making some money by selling this devices in 2014 (after 4years!)
Hey I am glad that you manage to root your device with my given solution (VROOT eeehhh!).By the way that is the latest version of VROOT so keep following up on its updates, better to use automated rooting rather than manual rooting (no need to understand the chown/chmod) a lot of hassle any wrong statement in the script you will have to reflash the whole device.But it is needed to understand the different method of Rooting and "push" into the system further modifications.
Excellent.

RK3188 Quad Core esp. PiPo M9Pro
stallionrider21 said:
First. i apologize for reffering A18 as A16, it was just a silly mistake.Let me second cracktech that this device is really paying its price. Good solid hardware with amazing performance (and cheap).
@cracktech i am sure it will be octa core i was not just sure how to check it. thanks for upload.
Friends i feel it easy to root with automatic tool provided by cracktec (vroot) it is pretty easy and quick and works with most devices.
by the way 25 Dec update is up on official chinese website too.
Cracktech sir, its a pleasure to learn from you. Can you tell me something about pipo m9 pro is it worth buying it, it is RK3188 Quad core, good battery 32 gb and in china i can get it for about 173 USD. normally chinese tablets dont have good camera etc? and is RK chipset are good?
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There are at least 2 Forums supporting this M9Pro and the support is great (eeheem I am on Archtablet Forum M9pro-KASTY ROM) there is another FREAKTAB- RILEY ROM and the pressure we put on the factory is such that they listen to our feedback like, at one time Skype doesnt work, wifi doesnt connect and everry month they keep updating the firmware(reflashing the device every month is tedious) to the point that it is stable now and everybody is happy with it (the users) except that if you happen to come across a manufacturing defect that escaped the QA then you will find yourself returning the good to the seller everything on the firmware front is A-OK now. See my signature dates. The camera is above average (7/10) the sound quality is excellent for a pad. the screen is excellent(although it taxes the graphic processor and may look a bit sluggish).
The firmware from either KASTY or RILEY is pre-rooted you dont have to worry about rooting.The GPS has signal weakness (due to teh metal back cover) but I have prepared for the Forum members a fix that can get GPS fix in under 10seconds or less.
Thats it for the PiPo M9Pro

Hands on Gionee Elife E7
Hi guys. yesterday i got my hands on latest Gionee E7 and immediately i tried for rooting via Vroot as Google play store was not pre installed but to my horror something went wrong and now the device is very lagy and touch is hardly working. Till now Gionee has not uploaded its stock rom so i am stuck, any guidance what went wrong.

@cracktech,
Thanks for the update, I had been watching the M9 Pro as well. I've also, been watching the M8 HD, which seems pretty nice as well. However, if this tablet seem promising with nice battery life, then I may switch
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[/COLOR @cracktech,
Thanks for the update, I had been watching the M9 Pro as well. I've also, been watching the M8 HD, which seems pretty nice as well. However, if this tablet seem promising with nice battery life, then I may switch

Thanks alot
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There are at least 2 Forums supporting this M9Pro and the support is great (eeheem I am on Archtablet Forum M9pro-KASTY ROM) there is another FREAKTAB- RILEY ROM and the pressure we put on the factory is such that they listen to our feedback like, at one time Skype doesnt work, wifi doesnt connect and everry month they keep updating the firmware(reflashing the device every month is tedious) to the point that it is stable now and everybody is happy with it (the users) except that if you happen to come across a manufacturing defect that escaped the QA then you will find yourself returning the good to the seller everything on the firmware front is A-OK now. See my signature dates. The camera is above average (7/10) the sound quality is excellent for a pad. the screen is excellent(although it taxes the graphic processor and may look a bit sluggish).
The firmware from either KASTY or RILEY is pre-rooted you dont have to worry about rooting.The GPS has signal weakness (due to teh metal back cover) but I have prepared for the Forum members a fix that can get GPS fix in under 10seconds or less.
Thats it for the PiPo M9Pro
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Thanks i am grateful. i will follow on those forums. i know about your contributions and i am impressed. Keep up the good work.

May I offer my 2 cents worth of input?
stallionrider21 said:
Thanks i am grateful. i will follow on those forums. i know about your contributions and i am impressed. Keep up the good work.
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The PiPo M9Pro firmware can be declared as "matured" just waiting for KitKat update only since its siblings has got a KitKat version firmware ready. It might take a while before they decide to port KitKat (or not) to M9Pro but as it stands it is stable with all the issues we raised to factory resolved.The battery life is decent if not spectacular.
The Exynos 5410 devices on the other hand has still got a long way to go before it is excepted as the "King" of Chinese high end pad and adopted by manufacturers (I reckon another 18 months) with its poor battery life is yet to be resolved. (neither TEAMGEE or VOYO) we will have to modify the battery with bigger capacity batteries (need to look around for the dimensions is critical) but I doubt it.
I need to study this device to support potential Forum members and customers..
On the TEAMGee side we lost "Diquan2001" who originally co-founded the thread with me due to lack of support from TEAM GEE factoy and his frustration with the battery life and he sold off his TG Super8. Therefore ending firmware updates support.Hope this does not happen to VOYO factory.
I left Slatedroid because the ZENITHINK brand ended their support into their Engineering Dept. (this is due to them thinking that they had obtained the critical mass volume). That the nature of the Chi****.

cracktech said:
The PiPo M9Pro firmware can be declared as "matured" just waiting for KitKat update only since its siblings has got a KitKat version firmware ready. It might take a while before they decide to port KitKat (or not) to M9Pro but as it stands it is stable with all the issues we raised to factory resolved.The battery life is decent if not spectacular.
The Exynos 5410 devices on the other hand has still got a long way to go before it is excepted as the "King" of Chinese high end pad and adopted by manufacturers (I reckon another 18 months) with its poor battery life is yet to be resolved. (neither TEAMGEE or VOYO) we will have to modify the battery with bigger capacity batteries (need to look around for the dimensions is critical) but I doubt it.
I need to study this device to support potential Forum members and customers..
On the TEAMGee side we lost "Diquan2001" who originally co-founded the thread with me due to lack of support from TEAM GEE factoy and his frustration with the battery life and he sold off his TG Super8. Therefore ending firmware updates support.Hope this does not happen to VOYO factory.
I left Slatedroid because the ZENITHINK brand ended their support into their Engineering Dept. (this is due to them thinking that they had obtained the critical mass volume). That the nature of the Chi****.
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Hello
I have return my teamgee e8 because GPS never Stuart. So now i looking to a voyo a18
Any of y ou clan sa y to me thé GSM frequency ans 3g wcma ?
I'm live in France and need the range of 900 MHz un GSM ans wcma.
Any more to know about voyo before buy? Thanks

The HUAWEI Ultra Stick E1220 is GSM 900 Mhz compatible
dAV84 said:
Hello
I have return my teamgee e8 because GPS never Stuart. So now i looking to a voyo a18
Any of y ou clan sa y to me thé GSM frequency ans 3g wcma ?
I'm live in France and need the range of 900 MHz un GSM ans wcma.
Any more to know about voyo before buy? Thanks
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For your information on the Ultrastick 3/4G. Yes it is compatible on 900Mhz GSM
It has 8000mAh battery unlike TEAM GEE

Sorry to disappoint, but a previous attempt to develop w w w.htcmanía.com firmware voyo A15, which was cut short by the total lack of support, both Voyo, as Urbetter.
The Voyo A18 is equal ... not release the kernel source (ever they have done) and their clients only have good hardware, they can not be used by a bad firmware.
Only I do not recommend buying products manufactured by urbetter (Voyo A15, Voyo A18 , Tamgee super8) to publish the sources of their kernels (Something that will not do, is that bad in business).

HTC Desire 501 dual sim general discussion and development

The phone just got released in asia and there is very less info available on the web.This thread has been created to bring together all the current and future users of this amazing device.
HTC Desire 501 Key Specifications
4.3 inch capacitive touch screen display
1.15 GHz dual core NovaThor U8520 processor
1 GB of RAM
Android 4.1 Jelly Bean
2100 mAh battery
8 MP rear and 2.1 MP front camera
8 GB internal storage and expandable up to 32 GB
Bluetooth, GPS, 3G, Wi-Fi, NFC, MicroUSB
Brief review:
This is my first hand experience with this device. The device has a 1.15 ghz dual core novathor processor coupled by a mali400 gpu. While the device isnt intended to match other high end devices in terms of performance, it still performs quite good in daily life. Handles the heavy sense 4+ ui with ease which is quite an achievement for a mid range phone. I tried a couple of hd games like dead trigger 2 & asphalt 8. All went pretty well. All the casual games that i tried performed excellent. The 8 mp camera is quite a performer too. The design is just awesome and the device feels quite elegant in the hand. The best part of the device is its super lcd 2 display. I have used a couple of devices like galaxy note and xperia sp in the past and the display of this device just blows them. The colors are really nice and vivid. Though the resolution is not 720p, the pixel density is high enough to make it a fairly sharp display.
Feel free to post any querries or other material related to the device. Lets attract some developers and kick start the development for this device!
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Can you post a small review of this phone? Im torn between this and Moto G.

habunath said:
Can you post a small review of this phone? Im torn between this and Moto G.
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OP updated with a brief review. I know that feel brother, I myself have been waiting for moto g for almost a month. I contacted motorola support and the exec online reveaped that they have shifted the indian release of the device to feb end. I am not sure if thats really the case but that's what i was told. Therefore, waiting no further , I went ahead and started my search for a decent device. I saw this in a showroom and fell in love with this phone. Been using it for last 3 days and so far no probs. Its upto you if you want to wait for moto g or invest your money in this one. Each device has its own pros and cons.
Good luck!
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U are a Life Saver .. need benchmarks quadrant,nenamark2
Searched the entire web for something substantial ....but u saved me !!! thanks
Please do a benchmark test of this device....i really want to buy this phone .....although i have nexus 4 but now i need a budget dual sim phone..
other than this i have 3 queries....
1. i have read in gsmarena....some people are complaining about the battery ...please tell us how is the battery life... will it last a day upon moderate usage like 1 hour music...1 hr call ... 1 hour 3g and 1 hr gaming ?
2. how is the music quality with earphones on...i m a music freak ...only reason for opting HTC ...
3. MOST IMP...I went to buy this phone today ...the very first shop that i entered did not have it in stock ...the girl there was an HTC executive wearing an HTC t-shirt ....she told me that htc is not sending in any stock coz the first lot was defective....all sets have an issue like : when we enter a sim card and upon receiving a call there is no sound ...the call goes blank ...and she also told that there is some problem with music... she said to wait till feb when the stock comes again ...i have a feeling that she is lying coz she did not have it in stock..and such that i dont buy it from somewhere else...still i want to know if any such problems exist ....?? i am getting this phone in the open market for around 15.7k

akshay403 said:
Searched the entire web for something substantial ....but u saved me !!! thanks
Please do a benchmark test of this device....i really want to buy this phone .....although i have nexus 4 but now i need a budget dual sim phone..
other than this i have 3 queries....
1. i have read in gsmarena....some people are complaining about the battery ...please tell us how is the battery life... will it last a day upon moderate usage like 1 hour music...1 hr call ... 1 hour 3g and 1 hr gaming ?
2. how is the music quality with earphones on...i m a music freak ...only reason for opting HTC ...
3. MOST IMP...I went to buy this phone today ...the very first shop that i entered did not have it in stock ...the girl there was an HTC executive wearing an HTC t-shirt ....she told me that htc is not sending in any stock coz the first lot was defective....all sets have an issue like : when we enter a sim card and upon receiving a call there is no sound ...the call goes blank ...and she also told that there is some problem with music... she said to wait till feb when the stock comes again ...i have a feeling that she is lying coz she did not have it in stock..and such that i dont buy it from somewhere else...still i want to know if any such problems exist ....?? i am getting this phone in the open market for around 15.7k
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Bro, the battery life is pretty standard for an android phone. I am a heavy music listener and game occasionally and still the battery easily pulls through the day.
With earphones on, the music is awesome and super loud, super awesome and super clear. Thanks to beats audio.
I am not sure if whatever the girl said to you was true because I dis not have any such problems. The call quality was great. No problem with music too. Tested both ways-with speaker and with ear phones. So far, i havent experienced a single problem with this device.
And ya, i will post the benchmarks later in the day.
Hope that helped.
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akshay403 said:
Searched the entire web for something substantial ....but u saved me !!! thanks
Please do a benchmark test of this device....i really want to buy this phone .....although i have nexus 4 but now i need a budget dual sim phone..
other than this i have 3 queries....
1. i have read in gsmarena....some people are complaining about the battery ...please tell us how is the battery life... will it last a day upon moderate usage like 1 hour music...1 hr call ... 1 hour 3g and 1 hr gaming ?
2. how is the music quality with earphones on...i m a music freak ...only reason for opting HTC ...
3. MOST IMP...I went to buy this phone today ...the very first shop that i entered did not have it in stock ...the girl there was an HTC executive wearing an HTC t-shirt ....she told me that htc is not sending in any stock coz the first lot was defective....all sets have an issue like : when we enter a sim card and upon receiving a call there is no sound ...the call goes blank ...and she also told that there is some problem with music... she said to wait till feb when the stock comes again ...i have a feeling that she is lying coz she did not have it in stock..and such that i dont buy it from somewhere else...still i want to know if any such problems exist ....?? i am getting this phone in the open market for around 15.7k
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Here are the benchmarks
Remember that the scores may vary depending on the number/kind of apps installed.
Antutu:
Quadrant standard:
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Here are the benchmarks
Remember that the scores may vary depending on the number/kind of apps installed.
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GFX benchmark please, its only way to tell about the GPU and gaming
anyway at WVGA im pretty sure gaming on this device with Mali400 will do fine

hamdir said:
GFX benchmark please, its only way to tell about the GPU and gaming
anyway at WVGA im pretty sure gaming on this device with Mali400 will do fine
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GPUbench:
Nenamark2:
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I meant:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.glbenchmark.glbenchmark27
http://gfxbench.com/result.jsp?site=dx

hamdir said:
I meant:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.glbenchmark.glbenchmark27
http://gfxbench.com/result.jsp?site=dx
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thanks!
Trex onscreen: 5fps
Egypt onscreen: 14fps
basically this low end device gives you the exact onscreen performance as the One X and SGS3 on dual core A9 instead of quad
not bad at all defintly better than the piss poor Adreno 203 on both the Desire 500 and 600' Snapdragon 200
you can now understand why HTC went pissed with Qualcom in the mid range and substituted them with Asian or alternative SoCs
Mali400 + 2x A9 versus Adreno203 + 4x A5 = a very easy win!
I am glad HTC is finally valuing Graphics performance and actual core IPC performance instead of multicore BS

good benchmark scores...i am sure it will manage most games....
just read a recent review on flipkart.com... please see it ... someone posted that the phone has call connectivity problem.... quite similar to what the sales girl told me... did u face any such problems yet... .. now i am really getting confused.... :'( :'(
how much did u get this phone for?
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akshay403 said:
good benchmark scores...i am sure it will manage most games....
just read a recent review on flipkart.com... please see it ... someone posted that the phone has call connectivity problem.... quite similar to what the sales girl told me... did u face any such problems yet... .. now i am really getting confused.... :'( :'(
how much did u get this phone for?
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No call problems what so ever. Perhaps, what the sales girl told you was correct and the new 'fixed' stock is in market already. I am saying this because flipkart is known to be selling the old stock of electronics. I bought xperia sp from flipkart months after its release in india. Earlier batches of that device were known to have a touchscreen issue which was fixed in newer batches. I bought from flipkart thinking that I needn't worry about that defect because i am buying far after the release of the handset and thus the device that i will receive will be from the newer batch. To my horror, the device that i received had the exact same defect as the one in earlier batches. So yea, i would recommend you not to buy this one from fk and go for some local dealer instead. I got mine for 15,500 inr.
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can u tell me the date of manufacture and date of import of your phone?
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akshay403 said:
can u tell me the date of manufacture and date of import of your phone?
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Has someone been able to root this device???
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Can apps be moved to sd card ??
Can apps be moved to sd card ??

akshay403 said:
Can apps be moved to sd card ??
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Not without any 3rd party app.

Thank god i found this thread!!!
Im goin crazy for this phone n im surely gonna buy this one. But stocks are not available yet... My bad...
I had few queries about this phone..
1. Is there any bug or any problem with the device?
2.Does it has the usb host mode to connect to usb devices?
3.How is the beats audio enhancement? (Never xperienced beats audio)
4.How long does it take to fully charge from zero to 100%? (Im using htc explorer from one year n 10 months and now it takes 4-5 hours to fully charge)
5. Are they providing any sd card with it? (htc explorer came with a 2gb card although it has only 150 mb memory )

Read issues on flipkart
Read these two reviews on flipkart... (attachment)
Makes me reluctant to buy right now.
What to do?

i'm back :}

had MotoQ, BlackBerry Storm, iPhones starting from the 3G... 2 years or so ago i ventured and used a HTC One X for about 3 months.. mainly due to battery life (and the Apple eco system in my house) i went back to iOS and got rid of the HTC. currently have the iPhone 5s.. purchased a HTC One S (this time i am keeping iPhone.. might be switching from time to time), should receive HTC One S on this wednesday, kinda anxious.

Make sure you get the S4 CPU ver of One S. I can't believe people still buying One S, it is a two years old phone though the phone is still good. One X is very bad battery life because of Nvidia T3 CPU.

TheEndHK said:
Make sure you get the S4 CPU ver of One S. I can't believe people still buying One S, it is a two years old phone though the phone is still good. One X is very bad battery life because of Nvidia T3 CPU.
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I Buy an htc one S last week And i do it because is was the S4 variant. I feel more confortable with that phone than the Galaxy S4 haha; really, I'm selling My GS4, and will use the HTC One S until i save enough for HTC ONE M8

already bought it ;] how do i know it's a S4 (the seller is out of town so can not ask him ;()

roeiboot said:
already bought it ;] how do i know it's a S4 (the seller is out of town so can not ask him ;()
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Use a benchmark app that can say you the processor speed, if the processor is 1512 mgz is S4

lorddavid said:
Use a benchmark app that can say you the processor speed, if the processor is 1512 mgz is S4
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thanks, any recommendations which app to use.. i'll find out wednesday what it is ;]

roeiboot said:
thanks, any recommendations which app to use.. i'll find out wednesday what it is ;]
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I think that antutu can tell the processor. I think that was the one that i use

lorddavid said:
I think that antutu can tell the processor. I think that was the one that i use
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thanks, found that one in the Google Play store, will download that first thing when i get the device... which supposedly is rooted and on Cyanogen mod 4.3.1.

roeiboot said:
thanks, found that one in the Google Play store, will download that first thing when i get the device... which supposedly is rooted and on Cyanogen mod 4.3.1.
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S3 = z560e
S4 = z520e
It printed on the box.
Try Quick System Info and SystemPanel Lite and check out the default max. clock. S3 is 1.7G and S4 is 1.5G.
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lorddavid said:
I Buy an htc one S last week And i do it because is was the S4 variant. I feel more confortable with that phone than the Galaxy S4 haha; really, I'm selling My GS4, and will use the HTC One S until i save enough for HTC ONE M8
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There are indeed many of S4 models, they got different of camera, cpu and RAM.

TheEndHK said:
S3 = z560e
S4 = z520e
It printed on the box.
Try Quick System Info and SystemPanel Lite and check out the default max. clock. S3 is 1.7G and S4 is 1.5G.
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does not come with box.. here's the listing (if it works for you), nothing mentioned by seller http://www.ebay.com/itm/321402139316
thanks.

Item specifics
Condition:
Used: An item that has been used previously. The item may have some signs of cosmetic wear, but is fully operational and functions as intended. This item may be a floor model or store return that has been used. See the seller’s listing for full details and description of any imperfections. See all condition definitions
Brand:
HTC
Style:
Bar
Model:
HTC One S
Camera:
8.0 MP
Features:
3G Data Capable, Internet Browser, Wi-Fi Capable, GPS, Touchscreen, Music Player, Bluetooth Enabled, Speakerphone
Cellular Band:
GSM 850/900/1800/1900 (Quadband) HSDPA 850/900/2100
Carrier:
T-Mobile
Operating System:
Android
Storage Capacity:
16 GB
UPC:
4710937382075
and:
Product Identifiers
Brand HTC
MPN ONESTMB
Carrier T-Mobile
Family Line HTC One
Model S
UPC 4710937382075, 610214629968
Type Smartphone
Key Features
Storage Capacity 16 GB
Color Black
Network Generation 3G
Network Technology GSM / HSDPA
Band GSM 850/900/1800/1900 (Quadband) HSDPA 850/900/2100
Style Bar
Camera 8.0 MP
Battery
Battery Capacity 1650 mAh
Display
Display Technology Super Amoled
Other Features
Touch Screen Yes
Bluetooth Yes
Digital Camera Yes
GPS Yes
Email Access Yes
Internet Browser Yes

roeiboot said:
Item specifics
Condition:
Used: An item that has been used previously. The item may have some signs of cosmetic wear, but is fully operational and functions as intended. This item may be a floor model or store return that has been used. See the seller’s listing for full details and description of any imperfections. See all condition definitions
Brand:
HTC
Style:
Bar
Model:
HTC One S
Camera:
8.0 MP
Features:
3G Data Capable, Internet Browser, Wi-Fi Capable, GPS, Touchscreen, Music Player, Bluetooth Enabled, Speakerphone
Cellular Band:
GSM 850/900/1800/1900 (Quadband) HSDPA 850/900/2100
Carrier:
T-Mobile
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T-Mobile only sell S4 ver of One S, so it is highly possible a S4 CPU if the information isn't false.

TheEndHK said:
T-Mobile only sell S4 ver of One S, so it is highly possible a S4 CPU if the information isn't false.
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thanks... eases my mind a bit, i will for sure let you know!

HA... it came today ;}
looks like it's an S4:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1847964/Photo%20May%2012%2C%205%2043%2047%20PM.jpg
now to get rid of this cyanogenmod... (ps. on a Mac :}

roeiboot said:
HA... it came today ;}
looks like it's an S4:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1847964/Photo%20May%2012%2C%205%2043%2047%20PM.jpg
now to get rid of this cyanogenmod... (ps. on a Mac :}
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its s4, ure lucky

roeiboot said:
HA... it came today ;}
looks like it's an S4:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1847964/Photo%20May%2012%2C%205%2043%2047%20PM.jpg
now to get rid of this cyanogenmod... (ps. on a Mac :}
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thats great man enjoy the phone. I really like the one s