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[Q] Knox and Rooting

So i've been searching for a couple days now, but can't seem to find a straight answer.
If i root my note 12.2, will it trip Knox to 0x1, or will knox only trip if i flash a custom rom?
I don't care too much for modding and such, just interested in rooting to remove blaotware. From what i've been seeing though, it looks like knox will trip just by rooting. However i'v seen others say it only tripped after installing custom roms. Maybe im just getting my references mixed up though.
AANNDD if rooting will trip knox, any idea if it will ever be possible to root without buggin knox? I have the note3 and was able to root and keep 0x0. I know they are very different when it comes to kernels, but maybe one day?

o0pyroguy0o said:
So i've been searching for a couple days now, but can't seem to find a straight answer.
If i root my note 12.2, will it trip Knox to 0x1, or will knox only trip if i flash a custom rom?
I don't care too much for modding and such, just interested in rooting to remove blaotware. From what i've been seeing though, it looks like knox will trip just by rooting. However i'v seen others say it only tripped after installing custom roms. Maybe im just getting my references mixed up though.
AANNDD if rooting will trip knox, any idea if it will ever be possible to root without buggin knox? I have the note3 and was able to root and keep 0x0. I know they are very different when it comes to kernels, but maybe one day?
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I tripped knox trying to install TWRP... I know this doesn't exactly answer your question.

o0pyroguy0o said:
So i've been searching for a couple days now, but can't seem to find a straight answer.
If i root my note 12.2, will it trip Knox to 0x1, or will knox only trip if i flash a custom rom?
I don't care too much for modding and such, just interested in rooting to remove blaotware. From what i've been seeing though, it looks like knox will trip just by rooting. However i'v seen others say it only tripped after installing custom roms. Maybe im just getting my references mixed up though.
AANNDD if rooting will trip knox, any idea if it will ever be possible to root without buggin knox? I have the note3 and was able to root and keep 0x0. I know they are very different when it comes to kernels, but maybe one day?
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I have root, stock recovery, stock firmware, never installed anything custom and KNOX is tripped. AFAIK, no way to achieve root without tripping KNOX, but so worth it to root. I have Exposed installed with Wanam and have my tablet set to Custom instead of Modified so I still get updates. I also have a Note 3 rooted on 4.4.2 without tripping KNOX.

It's not possible to root / flash custom ROMs or recoveries without tripping KNOX. At last for now.
And a bit off topic:
Note 3 was different since @designgears found way (URDLV) to root without triggering KNOX.. But it didn't took very long for Samsung to release a patch for that and downgrading is also impossible. So if you updated your phone via Kies or OTA when that exploit were patched, you got "bootloader of doom" and no way root without triggering KNOX flag (and since downgrading is impossible, you can't go back to "rootable" version). And I'm talking now about international Snapdragon version (since my Note 3 and NP 12.2 are international versions)

One day . . perhaps. .
I'm now on my second Note Pro having lost the first to an act of stupidity. This time around I've purchased a square trade warranty with accidental damage coverage for 2-years and as with the first I'll be rooting this tablet as well (gave it a week to settle in so that I'm sure that there's no hardware issues).
Here's my take on KNOX; Unless there were applications that I relied on that are checking on KNOX or evidence of root to stop me from using them I'm not going to worry myself at all about it. If I'm going to be sending in my device for repair it's going to be for a hardware issue NOT a software one because if I have the knowledge to be doing things like rooting and installing custom recoveries then I should be able to solve my own software issues (most likely through a factory reset if need be). Warranty coverage for hardware defect shouldn't be influenced by software.

wow, thanks for the fast replies guy!
So another quick question. (since muzzy mentioned breaking)
Lets say i root my note, knox trips 0x1, and in 3 months my volume rocker stops working (hardware problem). With other devices, i would call customer support, we troubleshoot for a bit, they decide to send me a new device (refurbished most likely) and i send my broken one to them since im still in warranty time wise. If they receive my note 12 and knox says 0x1, what do they do? Since my warranty is technically void, could they charge me for the tablet they sent me?
i think i just answered my own question as im thinking about it more.
SO knox is specifically SOFTWARE, if something hardware wise go amiss, my warranty is still good?

Root that bad boy. Get the files you need to root here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=50492301
and when you encounter problems, go to this thread for answers:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2710004&page=3

Russbad said:
Root that bad boy. Get the files you need to root here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=50492301
and when you encounter problems, go to this thread for answers:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2710004&page=3
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awesome! I'll get this done as soon as im home then. Thanks for the quick responses everyone!

I installed CF auto root via Odin and it tripped the knox flag.

Bummer =(
oh well, as long as hardware wise, the warranty is fine, i guess its no big deal. Like muzzy said, anything software wise, i can fix. And if rooting trips KNOX and only void software warranty, i don't care too much about that.

Russbad said:
Root that bad boy. Get the files you need to root here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=50492301
and when you encounter problems, go to this thread for answers:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2710004&page=3
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Unfortunately this won't work for the P905V (Verizon Variant). I've tried, since it said LTE but it's not for the Verizon LTE version. Still waiting for Root so I can at least install Xposed. I bought my device outright and couldn't care less about tripping KNOX.

I bought my device outright and couldn't care less about tripping KNOX
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The only crappy part is if you get an actual hardware failure it sucks that they invalidate your entire warranty.

KNOX Warranty has nothing to do with the hardware warranty. The Knox warranty flag is there to make sure a device has never been tampered with in a way that could compromise their Knox services. Period.
Sent from my SM-P900 using Tapatalk

dodo99x said:
KNOX Warranty has nothing to do with the hardware warranty.
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Well that's a relief.

dodo99x said:
KNOX Warranty has nothing to do with the hardware warranty. The Knox warranty flag is there to make sure a device has never been tampered with in a way that could compromise their Knox services. Period.
Sent from my SM-P900 using Tapatalk
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Those Knox services were the first thing I froze then deleted after root

Huh... im failing at the cache. Those recovery images have sure come in handy. Any tips?
Ive used odin 3.07/3.09 and CF-Auto-Root-v1awifi-v1awifixx-smp900? Im seeing a bunch of people getting stuck on the cache.img.
EDIT * USB debugging is on btw
EDIT* Got it! I unplugged ALL my other usb devices and changed the port i was using... stupid fix, but it worked.
Goodbye knox and all you other battery sucking memory hogging pieces of bloatware!
Thanks for you great help and suggestions! Greatly appreciated =D

Once the flag is tripped you can't even install Knox anymore
Sent from my SM-P900 using Tapatalk

o0pyroguy0o said:
Huh... im failing at the cache. Those recovery images have sure come in handy. Any tips?
Ive used odin 3.07/3.09 and CF-Auto-Root-v1awifi-v1awifixx-smp900? Im seeing a bunch of people getting stuck on the cache.img.
EDIT * USB debugging is on btw
EDIT* Got it! I unplugged ALL my other usb devices and changed the port i was using... stupid fix, but it worked.
Goodbye knox and all you other battery sucking memory hogging pieces of bloatware!
Thanks for you great help and suggestions! Greatly appreciated =D
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Congrats to you, glad you worked it out! Enjoy your rooted tablet!

dodo99x said:
Once the flag is tripped you can't even install Knox anymore
Sent from my SM-P900 using Tapatalk
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I REALLY don't care for knox anyways. Basically what i did right after rooting was open TB and uninstall everything that started with K and ended with NOX... removed a totall of 48 other programs too. Running smooth with no errors =D
Couldn't be happier.... well i could be happier if i could actually transfer files from my computer to my tablet... that would be nice. Good thing i have a card reader right?

o0pyroguy0o said:
I REALLY don't care for knox anyways. Basically what i did right after rooting was open TB and uninstall everything that started with K and ended with NOX... removed a totall of 48 other programs too. Running smooth with no errors =D
Couldn't be happier.... well i could be happier if i could actually transfer files from my computer to my tablet... that would be nice. Good thing i have a card reader right?
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Hey, can you post your list of programs you uninstalled? I would love to take a look at it and compare it to the other threads about this, but I don't think anyone posted that many. I'm trying to improve my battery life, right now the screen takes the most and exchange service the next most.
On KNOX, I can't find anything at all that I would ever use it for so it didn't matter to me. Seems like Samsung could make it so that they could still have KNOX but allow us to root all the same. They even talk about CF root in their literature not installing a rootkit so they are not worried about it like other rooting methods that don't trip the KNOX circuit and DO instal a rootkit.

So you can no longer root p900?

I sold my p905 a while back, going to get a p900 however, the biggest factor is able to delete files on the sd card. I know I have to root it, however, from what I read there's issues and you can no longer root it?.

rirawin said:
I sold my p905 a while back, going to get a p900 however, the biggest factor is able to delete files on the sd card. I know I have to root it, however, from what I read there's issues and you can no longer root it?.
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Use Odin to Flash TWRP then use TWRP to Flash Super SU.

nrage23 said:
Use Odin to Flash TWRP then use TWRP to Flash Super SU.
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Thanks, so no issues with rooting with latest firmware?.

http://androidxda.net/root-samsung-galaxy-note-pro-12-2-all-variants-on-android-4-4-2-kitkat/
This guide?, been ages since I rooted.

rirawin said:
http://androidxda.net/root-samsung-galaxy-note-pro-12-2-all-variants-on-android-4-4-2-kitkat/
This guide?, been ages since I rooted.
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I love how that guide says all variants and then makes no mention of the P907. I would love to be able to use a custom recovery. Unless the P907 falls under the LTE moniker even though the model number is different?

Yes, TWRP works with P900
I went through this a week ago (with some help) and once I figured out how to get TWRP 2.8 to flash using Odin the process of rooting and installing a custom rom was easy. There is a thread a little lower on this forum that goes through the process.
Keith

do you have the link please.
What happens if I wish to unroot?

rirawin said:
do you have the link please.
What happens if I wish to unroot?
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I can't post a link but the thread is in this forum. I have not unrooted but there are several threads that mention going back to stock.

Please can someone link me to an up to date method to root?
I understand towelroot only works for p905 and p900/

okay
rirawin said:
Please can someone link me to an up to date method to root?
I understand towelroot only works for p905 and p900/
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I do not have enough posts to link an email. About three weeks ago I had the same question. The thread is in this forum on page 3, 5 or so messages down. I am the op, stedmakr. Gastrom answered the thread, provided a link and helped me root the p900 and install his rom (its excellent). Sorry I can't post links. Page 3 of this forum.
Keith

http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...reliable-root-method-p900-build-bnk1-t2986600
I still don't quite understand, I just like to root to get sd card fix

Since there's this thread... How about KNOX? Is there a way to root P900 without tripping KNOX flag? I don't care about KNOX software itself, but since here in Poland warranty problems are left to the decision of the service, it is quite important for me not to give them opportunity to refuse a repair (if something happens, which - I hope - never will).
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Peri Noid said:
Since there's this thread... How about KNOX? Is there a way to root P900 without tripping KNOX flag? I don't care about KNOX software itself, but since here in Poland warranty problems are left to the decision of the service, it is quite important for me not to give them opportunity to refuse a repair (if something happens, which - I hope - never will).
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Nope, no way to avoid Knox trip.
Sent from my SM-P900 using Tapatalk

can anyone confirm please, is this the method to root:
https://androidxda.net/root-samsung-galaxy-note-pro-12-2-all-variants-on-android-4-4-2-kitkat/
So after I done that, I update su user and then I install sdfix is that right?.

anyone please?

Are you having problems or just too afraid to try it?
Not sure if you realize this but one of the reasons people aren't answering you is because those of us who have rooted do so and never look back. I wish I could tell you for sure that it will work with the current version of the firmware but I cant . . I rooted 8 months ago and haven't looked back. I cant speak for others but I'm not about to flash stock and go through the whole thing again just to update an old thread so I suspect that this is part of the reason that there's no updated guide. For devices that get a ton of development things are different but this niche device doesn't have a flurry of development activity surrounding it so . . .
One thing I can say is that it is my experience that if CF Autoroot fails the worst thing you're left with is a tripped knox and the stock rom without root. I say this because I was one of the unlucky ones who had to struggle through multiple attempts to get CF Autoroot to work. Eventually it did but during that time I had multiple shots at it and each time I was able to at least recover to the point of getting stock OS and recovery working again.
I see no reason why you can't achieve root on a SM-P900. If you can't do it with CF Autoroot then just download one of Gatsrom's images of stock rooted, flash TWRP using Odin (with auto reboot option disabled), boot into TWRP and do a full wipe and flash Gatsrom's image. You'll lose your setup and apps but you'll get root.

muzzy996 said:
Are you having problems or just too afraid to try it?
Not sure if you realize this but one of the reasons people aren't answering you is because those of us who have rooted do so and never look back. I wish I could tell you for sure that it will work with the current version of the firmware but I cant . . I rooted 8 months ago and haven't looked back. I cant speak for others but I'm not about to flash stock and go through the whole thing again just to update an old thread so I suspect that this is part of the reason that there's no updated guide. For devices that get a ton of development things are different but this niche device doesn't have a flurry of development activity surrounding it so . . .
One thing I can say is that it is my experience that if CF Autoroot fails the worst thing you're left with is a tripped knox and the stock rom without root. I say this because I was one of the unlucky ones who had to struggle through multiple attempts to get CF Autoroot to work. Eventually it did but during that time I had multiple shots at it and each time I was able to at least recover to the point of getting stock OS and recovery working again.
I see no reason why you can't achieve root on a SM-P900. If you can't do it with CF Autoroot then just download one of Gatsrom's images of stock rooted, flash TWRP using Odin (with auto reboot option disabled), boot into TWRP and do a full wipe and flash Gatsrom's image. You'll lose your setup and apps but you'll get root.
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Well said mate! Well said.
If someone's gonna root their tablet, especially one of this caliber & price point. Then they should know how to recover it back to stock on their own. Concerning the tripping of Knox, who cares! Samsung won't turn down a hardware issue covered under warranty just because you decided to load another ROM. That topic has been discussed to death in another thread. If your going to root this thing, then root it and live on! LoL ?
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Android.Ninja said:
Samsung won't turn down a hardware issue covered under warranty just because you decided to load another ROM.
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Not here in Poland...

About Root

hello, I wanted to ask something to the person who be root. I read a lot of thread and coments on youtube´s videos about a lot of people, and i read 6 or seven persons/users that root there phone a time ago and one day wake up ( Example) and theres phone has soft bricked and they has to re flash the stock version via odin again.
I wanted to bee rot but I fear that tomorrow (example) I will wake up and i have to re flash the rom and i lose everything on my phone storage.
Can someone give me your opinion ? and wich method use for flash supersu ?
thanks you so much !

maurit43 said:
hello, I wanted to ask something to the person who be root. I read a lot of thread and coments on youtube´s videos about a lot of people, and i read 6 or seven persons/users that root there phone a time ago and one day wake up ( Example) and theres phone has soft bricked and they has to re flash the stock version via odin again.
I wanted to bee rot but I fear that tomorrow (example) I will wake up and i have to re flash the rom and i lose everything on my phone storage.
Can someone give me your opinion ? and wich method use for flash supersu ?
thanks you so much !
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First of all why did you open up 2 topics that are the same? And if you search for root on this forum you will see lots of topics so do some research and stop acting like a kid.

RiTCHiE007 said:
First of all why did you open up 2 topics that are the same? And if you search for root on this forum you will see lots of topics so do some research and stop acting like a kid.
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sorry but my browser was freezing and not appear me that I open the first topic.

Has anyone found a way to root without tripping root?

Spud37 said:
Has anyone found a way to root without tripping root?
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Root without tripping root? You mean knox! Try search the s7 forum for root and do some reading. No need to ask when there are so many topics bout this.

maurit43 said:
hello, I wanted to ask something to the person who be root. I read a lot of thread and coments on youtube´s videos about a lot of people, and i read 6 or seven persons/users that root there phone a time ago and one day wake up ( Example) and theres phone has soft bricked and they has to re flash the stock version via odin again.
I wanted to bee rot but I fear that tomorrow (example) I will wake up and i have to re flash the rom and i lose everything on my phone storage.
Can someone give me your opinion ? and wich method use for flash supersu ?
thanks you so much !
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If you root correctly and don't mess with things that go outside of your knowledge, you should probably have little less chance of waking up with a bricked phone.
Things start to go bad when you touch things you shouldn't touch.

Good day.
Recently i rooted my phone, 5 day after i bought it. Installed TWRP and Xposed.
One and a half day after,without any reason, the phone started to bootloop. Without thinking, i sent the phone for warranty. 40 days later the same phone came back from Samsung, they repaired the phone without charging anything, as i am in a country that Samsung has to repair it even with knox tripped.
I asked here at XDA if it was root that bricked the phone and the response was that most probably it was Xposed or a module that made that, and i could repair it at home.

Hansoliv said:
Good day.
Recently i rooted my phone, 5 day after i bought it. Installed TWRP and Xposed.
One and a half day after,without any reason, the phone started to bootloop. Without thinking, i sent the phone for warranty. 40 days later the same phone came back from Samsung, they repaired the phone without charging anything, as i am in a country that Samsung has to repair it even with knox tripped.
I asked here at XDA if it was root that bricked the phone and the response was that most probably it was Xposed or a module that made that, and i could repair it at home.
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its sound so good that Samsung repair the phone even with knox tripped .
and about Xposed, i dont interested in install it, i wanna just delete some pre charge apps and flash volumen mod. nothing more
NOTE: Wich metod do you use to root ? thanks you

For now i have not rooted my phone,and i froze all my bloatware with an app called "ez disabler". I only miss root because of titanium backup and Lucky patcher.

Good day
Sorry, i did not see the NOTE part.
I rooted my phone through TWRP (http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7/development/recovery-official-twrp-herolte-t3333770).
I don't know if there is any another way.

[Completed] I can't install apps on xda-developers anymore after KNOX trip!

So I tried rooting my Samsung Galaxy S6 using CF-Auto-root and Odin 3.11. But to no avail, not only did I not receive root access, but also after tripping KNOX on it, I decided to restore the md5 .tar on my update, honestly if I didn't update my phone to Marshmallow this probably wouldn't have happened. Anyways after I restored everything I've decided to use the default samsung browser to head on over to a forum which contained the Pingpong root apk files, I was thinking of downloading it but all of a sudden, I receive an error every time I tried to download it: "<Untitled> Download unsuccessful." So I decided to try downloading something else on another website such as google to see if there is something wrong with the browser, and it downloads perfectly. I'm certain that the KNOX trip caused the issue. But other than that I am not sure what really is. Anyways is anyone else receiving a similar problem?

Hi and welcome to XDA Assist !
first revert to stock using the required files from here https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/general/stock-firmwares-sm-g920f-k-l-p-s-t-t3317826
check the download again but most probably it has nothing to do with knox tripping , there`s something else triggering that issue
second , head over this thread to root it if you want
good luck !

touchwiz become haywire after rooted?

Hi guys! with all due respect my question might be dumb but here it goes, after flashing custom recovery TWRP on my S7 the phone seems to stop working like google playstore keep on hanging along with touchwiz blank page nothing on the main screen. To fix this I have to flash back to stock rom from Odin with the correct updated firmware and Odin3 v3.12.3. All this happens after I wanted to sell my phone to a new buyer, he installed knox and failed so insisted to return the phone back to me. After I got it decided to root the phone again then that happen and my knox counter trip is 0x030? Does this means anything? Because before it was 0x1 ?
one more question can I rooted with Magisk and Super Su both is available on my S7? Maybe its a dumb question too to cheers

hmm nobody gonna give me a few tips on how to solve this?

The Knox flag is still void. Mine is the same. Seems indicate different levels of tripped, or maybe changes depending on if a full custom ROM is installed. SuperSU and magisk do work, and work best when flashed through TWRP. It's tricky to get root to work with encryption though, so most people just disable encryption and format data.