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Kingo Android Root, Safe or Not ??

Is Kingo Android Root application SAFE ?
Many people are scratching their heads thinking whether Kingo's application is safe or not
So this thread is made for everyone who is in a dilemma about the applications usage, Ban and removal of ban from XDA's thread and rooting their phones with the kingo app without any hassle (NOOBS GUIDE FOR ROOTING).
So, I contacted kingo for support and information and they came up with a very satisfactory explanation about their application which has been attached below.
Moreover, some people are still concerned about the ban and thread that was closed by XDA, for their information the thread was opened and this application was declared as SAFE to use.:good:
Final verdict from my side is, every one who is afraid of flashing kernels for rooting (like auto-root) and the people who are concerned with KNOX warranty (MOST PEOPLE did not trip their knox warranty) should use this simple root & unroot tool to get the administrative privileges on their device.
Enjoy rooting

not a good experience for me.
sdey.dey said:
Is Kingo Android Root application SAFE ?
Many people are scratching their heads thinking whether Kingo's application is safe or not
So this thread is made for everyone who is in a dilemma about the applications usage, Ban and removal of ban from XDA's thread and rooting their phones with the kingo app without any hassle (NOOBS GUIDE FOR ROOTING).
So, I contacted kingo for support and information and they came up with a very satisfactory explanation about their application which has been attached below.
Moreover, some people are still concerned about the ban and thread that was closed by XDA, for their information the thread was opened and this application was declared as SAFE to use.:good:
Final verdict from my side is, every one who is afraid of flashing kernels for rooting (like auto-root) and the people who are concerned with KNOX warranty (MOST PEOPLE did not trip their knox warranty) should use this simple root & unroot tool to get the administrative privileges on their device.
Enjoy rooting
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I did Follow all steps, everything was going good up until my note 3 reboot and reboot over and over, when kingo said successfully rooted, it didn't work that way, instead to my surprise, when finally hard reset it, came to find out that it tripped knox, and have my warranty voided, this is my personal experience and wanted to share with you all.

I would always prefer using a computer to gain root access instead of theses on the fly tools. It worked for me everytime without messing up anYthing. Better getting some knowledge before changing any system components
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Well Kingo Root helped me to root my SGA+ whereas others failed, including Odin. Didn't have any problems until now, and the only advice I can say is just use the computer to do the rooting work. I never believed that on the fly rooting is working on any branded phone.

Angjinhang said:
Well Kingo Root helped me to root my SGA+ whereas others failed, including Odin. Didn't have any problems until now, and the only advice I can say is just use the computer to do the rooting work. I never believed that on the fly rooting is working on any branded phone.
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Well, Kingo was the only tool that managed to root my phone.
After putting my hands on 20 or 30 devices, this was the toughest rooting.
(Alps - GT-i9502)
Now, if I were an employee of General Dynamics or Boeing, I might be a little cautious given how the way the tool looks up the method;
basically, anything could be happening under the covers and it could happen on a case-by-case basis.
But since I'm pretty uninteresting from an industrial espionage perspective, I'd say it was worth it.

perhaps i wanna try to root my phone with this tool

it's better to use recovery mode and flash your su zip than rooting within root app. for me rooting with app is like doing a surgery while the patient still awake :v

Hey guys, I'm totally confused here. so what method do we use for the LG G Pro 10p??
Are we suppose to use root apps, or not??
Also @heroaa16 what method do you use??

hidayatwahyu said:
perhaps i wanna try to root my phone with this tool
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This.

My phone never got rooted by it. I have Xperia Z and whenever I try to root it, it says Root Failed - NeedRoot. However, I tried rooting my phone with every rooting application on web and it didn't work. Even my expert friend couldn't do it.

da Aryan Code said:
My phone never got rooted by it. I have Xperia Z and whenever I try to root it, it says Root Failed - NeedRoot. However, I tried rooting my phone with every rooting application on web and it didn't work. Even my expert friend couldn't do it.
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Have you tried this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2656698
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I will try it
tobi-19777 said:
Have you tried this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2656698
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I tried that method with Android Version 4.3. But I just read that forum and it says that root only works for 4.2. I will downgrade version and try again. So, will I be able to update my phone to Kitkat (4.4) without losing root?
Thanks a lot!

Virus Warnings?
What about the warnings? I downloaded the android_root.exe file from kingoapp and checked it with VirusTotal. It came up with warnings for: TROJ_GEN.F47V0329 and W32/QHost.C.gen!Eldorado.

Marcvs66 said:
What about the warnings? I downloaded the android_root.exe file from kingoapp and checked it with VirusTotal. It came up with warnings for: TROJ_GEN.F47V0329 and W32/QHost.C.gen!Eldorado.
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This is what virustotal reported when I did a scan:
https://www.virustotal.com/en/file/...e035cf427be70cfbaac9babe73ae18ffa17/analysis/

Have i9500 4.4.2 or other 4.x versions successfully rooted with Kingo and not triggered knox counter?

Bingley said:
Have i9500 4.4.2 or other 4.x versions successfully rooted with Kingo and not triggered knox counter?
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I got root from Kingo without tripping Knox (0X0) on 4.3

UncleDaddySwiss said:
I got root from Kingo without tripping Knox (0X0) on 4.3
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Are you not using to 4.4.x? I don't think it can be don't with anything on 4.4 without going 0x1

Bingley said:
Are you not using to 4.4.x? I don't think it can be don't with anything on 4.4 without going 0x1
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No, I'm still on 4.3. I didn't get the update because I was rooted and my phone status is "modified."

BS
So i was rooting but i got suspicous if it was doing anything. So i unpluged my phone and let it keep going. Funny thing is it said i was still connected even after a while! I dont think this stuffs real

i9300 Rooting
Well, I managed to root 3 different phones using this app,
» Cherry Mobile Flare S
» Sony Xperia Arc S
» Samsung Galaxy S3 i9300
Rooting was fast and was effective..

Rooting/Custom Rom-ing hesitation due to KNOX

Hello all,
I've searched all over XDA and Google, to give me definitive answer about issue i am about to raise, i rooted and put custom roms on all my previous samsung/htc devices, and WAS about to do the same for my Note 3 (its a beastly device, and doesnt need modifications, however it has been a routine for me to root and put custom roms into any devices that i've used)
Now the issue is this:
Yes, i've read about KNOX security system that Samsung has implemented, which would trip a counter and supposedly locked the bootloader of the phone, i've also read that due to the e-fuse that has been implemented, my Note 3 internals could be damaged due to it (?), and also i wouldnt be able to go back to the old version/bootloader as it will be parmanently locked by Samsung if i flash using Odin.
Do take note..that my Note 3 is not under warranty..so if KNOX triggers, it doesnt matter for me , as i wont be going to my local phone shop or official Samsung Officials (there isnt one here in my country) if anything would happen to my device. However i do need to know if its gonna mess with my device due to the e-fuse.
My questions are these..
1) If i root it, using CF's method as i usually do..and will definately put Custom Rom in it...and that will trigger KNOX for sure..will it destroy the internals? say the MOBO..and the phone will be rendered useless and become an expensive paperweight (i dont have warranty, so no replacements)
2) If i use for e.g Omega Rom which released two versions, one, with 4.3 JB and one, with 4.4 KitKat...will i be able to go back and forth for e.g 4.4 to 4.3 as well as jumping to different custom roms with diffrent Android versions?! as i usually do with me previous devices
Thanks and i will definately delete this thread once i'm fully convinced that rooting , putting roms should be avoided or ''Since you dont care about tripping knox, go ahead and do it as ur previous devices'' kinda answer..
Truly Sorry if you guys come across this question already..i've searched for it and come to no avail.. this is my last resort. Thnks XDA and everyone.:good:

qilrfn said:
My questions are these..
1) If i root it, using CF's method as i usually do..and will definately put Custom Rom in it...and that will trigger KNOX for sure..will it destroy the internals? say the MOBO..and the phone will be rendered useless and become an expensive paperweight (i dont have warranty, so no replacements)
2) If i use for e.g Omega Rom which released two versions, one, with 4.3 JB and one, with 4.4 KitKat...will i be able to go back and forth for e.g 4.4 to 4.3 as well as jumping to different custom roms with diffrent Android versions?! as i usually do with me previous devices
Thanks and i will definately delete this thread once i'm fully convinced that rooting , putting roms should be avoided or ''Since you dont care about tripping knox, go ahead and do it as ur previous devices'' kinda answer..
Truly Sorry if you guys come across this question already..i've searched for it and come to no avail.. this is my last resort. Thnks XDA and everyone.:good:
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Firstly wrong section - should go to Q&A
1) -- Well you can mess up if you don't follow the right methods (not hard)
2) you can only be on one, if you use 4.3 BL you can't use 4.4 and vice versa... once you go to 4.4 you cannot downgrade back to 4.3 unless you have an N900w8
Generally, rooting/custom ROM's won't hurt your device, just make sure you have the right ROM/Kernel and make the proper backups if needed.
Disable Reactivation Lock, and read about backing up your EFS and how to get out of it if it goes mad (which it sometimes does at random)

I think Radicalisto didn't make it clear enough: I'm not aware of tripped Knox flag affecting anything else on the phone except for warranty and inability to use Knox software. Any type of phone issues would probably be due to user error, or loaded software, not the flag itself.

radicalisto said:
Firstly wrong section - should go to Q&A
1) -- Well you can mess up if you don't follow the right methods (not hard)
2) you can only be on one, if you use 4.3 BL you can't use 4.4 and vice versa... once you go to 4.4 you cannot downgrade back to 4.3 unless you have an N900w8
Generally, rooting/custom ROM's won't hurt your device, just make sure you have the right ROM/Kernel and make the proper backups if needed.
Disable Reactivation Lock, and read about backing up your EFS and how to get out of it if it goes mad (which it sometimes does at random)
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Thanks for answering first of all..will defo hit the thnx button..
for the 1) i always make sure i read the instructions and follow steps..no problem there..
2) this one tho..is a bit weird for me..i was able to do it on my note 2..going back and forth 4.3 to 4.1.2 cus i found the 4.1.2 more stable..i guess for note 3 i cant do that anymore? even if use custom roms to up/downgrade?
thnx for ur time..and will take ur advice next time on posting it at the q and a section (still learning)

ON 4.3 you once you go to MJ7 Bootloader you cannot downgrade -- however you can go to ML and MK bootloaders and go back to MJ7 again.
For some reason Samsung blocked a downgrade to 4.3 from 4.4 (as the Note shipped with 4.3 no logical reason to allow 4.2 imo) - but if you choose to move to 4.4. bootloader do be aware it can be buggy on some devices (NEE region also Hong Kong notes have issues) - If you have a read around you will see the issues people are having and not having with stock 4.4.
There's plenty of ROMs for both bootloaders CM works on both and most of the Stock based ROM dev's have moved up to the newest NB* Bootloader from NA* - I flashed 4.4 day it leaked (the next hour to be precise and I have had no issues)

qilrfn said:
Thanks for answering first of all..will defo hit the thnx button..
for the 1) i always make sure i read the instructions and follow steps..no problem there..
2) this one tho..is a bit weird for me..i was able to do it on my note 2..going back and forth 4.3 to 4.1.2 cus i found the 4.1.2 more stable..i guess for note 3 i cant do that anymore? even if use custom roms to up/downgrade?
thnx for ur time..and will take ur advice next time on posting it at the q and a section (still learning)
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since note 3 came with 4.3 and currently latest stock is 4.4.2. even if u wanna go back to 4.3 from what i read around it is not possible. There are alot of aosp roms and stock rooted roms with all kinds of kernel build for both stock and aosp. Im sure if u were to follow the instructions given and do it diligently surely nthg goes wrong unless u overclock ur phone too high or flashing stuff which weren't meant for ur specific device then nthg to be afraid of. I sure glad i went ahead and root. Coz to me knox is a totally BS. all down to ur own preference. u like it u root it u use it. best is to keep reading different threads.
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radicalisto said:
ON 4.3 you once you go to MJ7 Bootloader you cannot downgrade -- however you can go to ML and MK bootloaders and go back to MJ7 again.
For some reason Samsung blocked a downgrade to 4.3 from 4.4 (as the Note shipped with 4.3 no logical reason to allow 4.2 imo) - but if you choose to move to 4.4. bootloader do be aware it can be buggy on some devices (NEE region also Hong Kong notes have issues) - If you have a read around you will see the issues people are having and not having with stock 4.4.
There's plenty of ROMs for both bootloaders CM works on both and most of the Stock based ROM dev's have moved up to the newest NB* Bootloader from NA* - I flashed 4.4 day it leaked (the next hour to be precise and I have had no issues)
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Okay..so i would only flash 4.4 roms when Im really really convinced that its time for KitKat..but as of right now, i can only play around with 4.3 roms..ok..understood. You've cleared my doubts man, thanks a bunch and i guess its time to root and flash.

pete4k said:
I think Radicalisto didn't make it clear enough: I'm not aware of tripped Knox flag affecting anything else on the phone except for warranty and inability to use Knox software. Any type of phone issues would probably be due to user error, or loaded software, not the flag itself.
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I did read somewhere, the e-fuse is like an internal bomb..if i flag it, some sort of ''internal parts destroyer'' would be unleashed and mess up my device. I guess its just a rumour...hopefully.

qilrfn said:
I did read somewhere, the e-fuse is like an internal bomb..if i flag it, some sort of ''internal parts destroyer'' would be unleashed and mess up my device. I guess its just a rumour...hopefully.
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If it's not humour, there's gonna be a lot of angry Note owners here on XDA -- Some tripped KNOX accidently lol - I wouldn't worry too much in all honesty.

I'm sure using cf root trips knox
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An e-fuse is just a silicon bridge on the processor that gets burnt out. Once you burn the bridge it can't revert back.
This is technically damaging the internal hardware BUT this is due to Samsung software doing this so I don't see how they can claim we have damaged the hardware.... There should be no other problems resulting from this....

First of all, many people already claim their phones had Knox flag reset to zero by Samsung service centers. Either they're all lying (why?), there are more than one e-fuse inside and Samsung can simply reset software to ignore burned fuse and check next one, or the whole e-fuse story is made up and not true. Personally I lean towards the last possibility, for 2 reasons: e-fuse is permanent so couldn't be reset and if they're using multiple e-fuses then it is not more secure than encrypted software code and also possibly e-fuse could be defeated from tripping: I believe e-fuse needs higher than normal voltage to be burned out (otherwise it could burn accidentally) and that voltage is probably coming on separate rail, I wonder what would happen if one would either cut this high voltage or short it out, just during flag tripping operations.
Secondly many people tripped their Knox flags already, if there was some side effects, we would know about it already.

So you can no longer root p900?

I sold my p905 a while back, going to get a p900 however, the biggest factor is able to delete files on the sd card. I know I have to root it, however, from what I read there's issues and you can no longer root it?.

rirawin said:
I sold my p905 a while back, going to get a p900 however, the biggest factor is able to delete files on the sd card. I know I have to root it, however, from what I read there's issues and you can no longer root it?.
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Use Odin to Flash TWRP then use TWRP to Flash Super SU.

nrage23 said:
Use Odin to Flash TWRP then use TWRP to Flash Super SU.
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Thanks, so no issues with rooting with latest firmware?.

http://androidxda.net/root-samsung-galaxy-note-pro-12-2-all-variants-on-android-4-4-2-kitkat/
This guide?, been ages since I rooted.

rirawin said:
http://androidxda.net/root-samsung-galaxy-note-pro-12-2-all-variants-on-android-4-4-2-kitkat/
This guide?, been ages since I rooted.
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I love how that guide says all variants and then makes no mention of the P907. I would love to be able to use a custom recovery. Unless the P907 falls under the LTE moniker even though the model number is different?

Yes, TWRP works with P900
I went through this a week ago (with some help) and once I figured out how to get TWRP 2.8 to flash using Odin the process of rooting and installing a custom rom was easy. There is a thread a little lower on this forum that goes through the process.
Keith

do you have the link please.
What happens if I wish to unroot?

rirawin said:
do you have the link please.
What happens if I wish to unroot?
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I can't post a link but the thread is in this forum. I have not unrooted but there are several threads that mention going back to stock.

Please can someone link me to an up to date method to root?
I understand towelroot only works for p905 and p900/

okay
rirawin said:
Please can someone link me to an up to date method to root?
I understand towelroot only works for p905 and p900/
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I do not have enough posts to link an email. About three weeks ago I had the same question. The thread is in this forum on page 3, 5 or so messages down. I am the op, stedmakr. Gastrom answered the thread, provided a link and helped me root the p900 and install his rom (its excellent). Sorry I can't post links. Page 3 of this forum.
Keith

http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...reliable-root-method-p900-build-bnk1-t2986600
I still don't quite understand, I just like to root to get sd card fix

Since there's this thread... How about KNOX? Is there a way to root P900 without tripping KNOX flag? I don't care about KNOX software itself, but since here in Poland warranty problems are left to the decision of the service, it is quite important for me not to give them opportunity to refuse a repair (if something happens, which - I hope - never will).
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Peri Noid said:
Since there's this thread... How about KNOX? Is there a way to root P900 without tripping KNOX flag? I don't care about KNOX software itself, but since here in Poland warranty problems are left to the decision of the service, it is quite important for me not to give them opportunity to refuse a repair (if something happens, which - I hope - never will).
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Nope, no way to avoid Knox trip.
Sent from my SM-P900 using Tapatalk

can anyone confirm please, is this the method to root:
https://androidxda.net/root-samsung-galaxy-note-pro-12-2-all-variants-on-android-4-4-2-kitkat/
So after I done that, I update su user and then I install sdfix is that right?.

anyone please?

Are you having problems or just too afraid to try it?
Not sure if you realize this but one of the reasons people aren't answering you is because those of us who have rooted do so and never look back. I wish I could tell you for sure that it will work with the current version of the firmware but I cant . . I rooted 8 months ago and haven't looked back. I cant speak for others but I'm not about to flash stock and go through the whole thing again just to update an old thread so I suspect that this is part of the reason that there's no updated guide. For devices that get a ton of development things are different but this niche device doesn't have a flurry of development activity surrounding it so . . .
One thing I can say is that it is my experience that if CF Autoroot fails the worst thing you're left with is a tripped knox and the stock rom without root. I say this because I was one of the unlucky ones who had to struggle through multiple attempts to get CF Autoroot to work. Eventually it did but during that time I had multiple shots at it and each time I was able to at least recover to the point of getting stock OS and recovery working again.
I see no reason why you can't achieve root on a SM-P900. If you can't do it with CF Autoroot then just download one of Gatsrom's images of stock rooted, flash TWRP using Odin (with auto reboot option disabled), boot into TWRP and do a full wipe and flash Gatsrom's image. You'll lose your setup and apps but you'll get root.

muzzy996 said:
Are you having problems or just too afraid to try it?
Not sure if you realize this but one of the reasons people aren't answering you is because those of us who have rooted do so and never look back. I wish I could tell you for sure that it will work with the current version of the firmware but I cant . . I rooted 8 months ago and haven't looked back. I cant speak for others but I'm not about to flash stock and go through the whole thing again just to update an old thread so I suspect that this is part of the reason that there's no updated guide. For devices that get a ton of development things are different but this niche device doesn't have a flurry of development activity surrounding it so . . .
One thing I can say is that it is my experience that if CF Autoroot fails the worst thing you're left with is a tripped knox and the stock rom without root. I say this because I was one of the unlucky ones who had to struggle through multiple attempts to get CF Autoroot to work. Eventually it did but during that time I had multiple shots at it and each time I was able to at least recover to the point of getting stock OS and recovery working again.
I see no reason why you can't achieve root on a SM-P900. If you can't do it with CF Autoroot then just download one of Gatsrom's images of stock rooted, flash TWRP using Odin (with auto reboot option disabled), boot into TWRP and do a full wipe and flash Gatsrom's image. You'll lose your setup and apps but you'll get root.
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Well said mate! Well said.
If someone's gonna root their tablet, especially one of this caliber & price point. Then they should know how to recover it back to stock on their own. Concerning the tripping of Knox, who cares! Samsung won't turn down a hardware issue covered under warranty just because you decided to load another ROM. That topic has been discussed to death in another thread. If your going to root this thing, then root it and live on! LoL ?
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Samsung won't turn down a hardware issue covered under warranty just because you decided to load another ROM.
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Not here in Poland...

[Q] Can I Remove a rooted 0x0 Knox Bootloader

I see a lot of similar questions, but am getting yes and no answers.
Background+Rant: after spending yesterday bashing my head against knox, i managed to get my new sm-g900p from oem 5.0 back to stock 4.4.2, towel-rooted successfully (keeping 0x0). Good, but not enough. without a real recovery to make a backup, samsung is actually putting me at more risk than ever at turning my phone into a brick (security my ***). plus the slow/ugly stock rom hurts my head after seeing what Android should be. They act like making a rewarding process dangerous is going to stop this entire community! Anyway enough ranting from a non-dev.
what i need to know is since i have NOT sent knox into lockdown mode(0x1), can i get knox out of the Bootloader? from what i understand, you can disable the knox apps using superSU, titanium, or a command prompt, but this will not effect the flash counter (not eliminating the risk of permanent 0x1). we flash bootloaders all the time with our recoveries, firmwares, and roms. If knox has not activated (ie blocking root, apps, etc) how is this bootloader different?
http://www.s4miniarchive.com/2013/12/how-to-remove-knox-bootloader-from-new.html seems hopeful as it involves extracting the firmware to linux, removing the knox code, repacking and reflashing. sounds like something even i could do, but would feel more comfortable downloading from a real developer.
Hopes and thoughts to go along with my disappointment and concerns?

3rdsurfer said:
I see a lot of similar questions, but am getting yes and no answers.
Background+Rant: after spending yesterday bashing my head against knox, i managed to get my new sm-g900p from oem 5.0 back to stock 4.4.2, towel-rooted successfully (keeping 0x0). Good, but not enough. without a real recovery to make a backup, samsung is actually putting me at more risk than ever at turning my phone into a brick (security my ***). plus the slow/ugly stock rom hurts my head after seeing what Android should be. They act like making a rewarding process dangerous is going to stop this entire community! Anyway enough ranting from a non-dev.
what i need to know is since i have NOT sent knox into lockdown mode(0x1), can i get knox out of the Bootloader? from what i understand, you can disable the knox apps using superSU, titanium, or a command prompt, but this will not effect the flash counter (not eliminating the risk of permanent 0x1). we flash bootloaders all the time with our recoveries, firmwares, and roms. If knox has not activated (ie blocking root, apps, etc) how is this bootloader different?
http://www.s4miniarchive.com/2013/12/how-to-remove-knox-bootloader-from-new.html seems hopeful as it involves extracting the firmware to linux, removing the knox code, repacking and reflashing. sounds like something even i could do, but would feel more comfortable downloading from a real developer.
Hopes and thoughts to go along with my disappointment and concerns?
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I did a little reading on the xda thread that links to but other than it being done just because it can, I don't see the real usefulness in the exercise of removing knox from a stock bootloader.
As you already pointed out, getting anywhere with a stock rom is pretty much pointless without two things:
1. Root
2. Custom Recovery
First of all, lets face it, there is only so much you can do with a stock odexed rom. Secondly, I personally dont understand the need to keep the knox bit untripped. Even if you remove knox from the bootloader, once custom recovery is installed, I'm pretty sure you're going to trip the bit anyway.
He even states so in the thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=51828541&postcount=102
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And FYI, no one to my knowledge has ever hard bricked a Sprint Galaxy S5 phone. The only real issue at the moment is once you flash the OD3 Lollipop firmware or newer (currently OF6 I think) or take the OTA update, flashing any firmware older than OD3 is blocked.

Is it worth Rooting anymore?

1. I noticed exploits are being patched left and right.
2. Knox is easy to trip now.
3. There are no custom firmwares anymore for Samsung phones.
4. Samsung requests the removal of links on this board constantly.
5. Can't use Samsung pay with a knox tripped phone.
6. Downgrading is blocked in case you have an upgraded phone.
Is this what Samsung forums have come to now? Are there phones out there that you don't have to deal with Knox?
It seems people don't really care anymore about Samsung phones?

nafeasonto said:
1. I noticed exploits are being patched left and right.
2. Knox is easy to trip now.
3. There are no custom firmwares anymore for Samsung phones.
4. Samsung requests the removal of links on this board constantly.
5. Can't use Samsung pay with a knox tripped phone.
6. Downgrading is blocked in case you have an upgraded phone.
Is this what Samsung forums have come to now? Are there phones out there that you don't have to deal with Knox?
It seems people don't really care anymore about Samsung phones?
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Your question has been asked by many people on multiple forums. Samsung's flagship is great as is, however the software has a few bugs that bother everyone which is why we root. Samsung built knox so there products would appeal to corporate customers. That is why it exists. To say there are no custom firm wares is false. Just read the development forums. Root is not an absolute must, but it is getting harder as time goes on

Snowby123 said:
Root is not an absolute must, but it is getting harder as time goes on
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That doesn't make me hopeful.

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I obtained root just to prove to myself it can be done. It is not the most important thing In the world. That said, I do understand your perspective. I appreciate the root apps and custom ROMs, and each year root access I harder and harder. Even without root you can appreciate any android device

I stopped rooting just because my Barclay's bank app doesn't work on rooted phones and it's very convenient for me. Also stock android got a lot better and I like it as it is. Also you have theme engines build it now so you can customize your phone without rooting. All that said of course there is some exceptional cases that root is needed, like recently with the new S6 there is no option to choose 2G only network mode on stock rom and I don't know if there is a no root solution for it

So perhaps I am in a shrinking group of people that still needs, or rather appreciates, rooting.
I'm not sure what I can discuss here...
I am switching from my S5 to my new S6 (got it today!) and I need to use Titanium Backup Pro. I am restoring every app from the former to the latter and some of my games aren't... stored on the Google Play store. And I like root-requiring game alterers, unlocking my phone to be a hotspot, and simpler things like using Coolify, Root Booster and Root Explorer, among others.
Now I've tested my ability to transfer everything over from one device to another (my tablet), so I know it will work. I just keep reading more and more about KNOX (which I successfully avoided on my S5) and how it's unavoidable on the S6. How you can't rollback to an earlier version of Android (since I got my phone today, I'm assuming I have 5.1.1). I don't care about Samsung Pay. At all.
Is it advisable for me to root? If I have 5.1.1, CAN I? I read that PingPongRoot won't even WORK on 5.1.1! What am I to do? Or does no one care about rooting anymore? Is anyone devoted to resolving these issues or did everyone shrug and go, "Eh."?

hamstrman said:
So perhaps I am in a shrinking group of people that still needs, or rather appreciates, rooting.
I'm not sure what I can discuss here...
I am switching from my S5 to my new S6 (got it today!) and I need to use Titanium Backup Pro. I am restoring every app from the former to the latter and some of my games aren't... stored on the Google Play store. And I like root-requiring game alterers, unlocking my phone to be a hotspot, and simpler things like using Coolify, Root Booster and Root Explorer, among others.
Now I've tested my ability to transfer everything over from one device to another (my tablet), so I know it will work. I just keep reading more and more about KNOX (which I successfully avoided on my S5) and how it's unavoidable on the S6. How you can't rollback to an earlier version of Android (since I got my phone today, I'm assuming I have 5.1.1). I don't care about Samsung Pay. At all.
Is it advisable for me to root? If I have 5.1.1, CAN I? I read that PingPongRoot won't even WORK on 5.1.1! What am I to do? Or does no one care about rooting anymore? Is anyone devoted to resolving these issues or did everyone shrug and go, "Eh."?
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-_- 5.1.1 is perfectly/easily rootable just by flashing a custom kernel. And if you looked in the development forums you'd see there's plenty of devs that care as there is plenty of rom and kernel development going on.

hamstrman said:
So perhaps I am in a shrinking group of people that still needs, or rather appreciates, rooting.
I'm not sure what I can discuss here...
I am switching from my S5 to my new S6 (got it today!) and I need to use Titanium Backup Pro. I am restoring every app from the former to the latter and some of my games aren't... stored on the Google Play store. And I like root-requiring game alterers, unlocking my phone to be a hotspot, and simpler things like using Coolify, Root Booster and Root Explorer, among others.
Now I've tested my ability to transfer everything over from one device to another (my tablet), so I know it will work. I just keep reading more and more about KNOX (which I successfully avoided on my S5) and how it's unavoidable on the S6. How you can't rollback to an earlier version of Android (since I got my phone today, I'm assuming I have 5.1.1). I don't care about Samsung Pay. At all.
Is it advisable for me to root? If I have 5.1.1, CAN I? I read that PingPongRoot won't even WORK on 5.1.1! What am I to do? Or does no one care about rooting anymore? Is anyone devoted to resolving these issues or did everyone shrug and go, "Eh."?
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First thing I want to say is I appreciate root just as much as you.
Secondly, PingPongRoot is incompatible with 5.1.1, but depending on which variant you have,
you might still be able to root or roll back to 5.0.2
Which variant do you have?

Two years ago I would not have dreamed of using an unrooted Android phone, but Android has come a long way now. I have been using my old Note 3 and my current S6 unrooted and I'm not missing root at all. Most of the reasons why I would root are available now without root.
I also enjoy unprecendented stability on my phones. No more flashing untested amateur stuff that fixes one thing and breaks 10 other things. So the answer to your question for me is, no, it's not worth rooting anymore.

drock212 said:
-_- 5.1.1 is perfectly/easily rootable just by flashing a custom kernel. And if you looked in the development forums you'd see there's plenty of devs that care as there is plenty of rom and kernel development going on.
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I appreciate your response. I have been looking at the development forums. I've been reading all kinds of threads and I guess I just find it daunting. I'm kind of in my own head about how I'm going to do all this and it SEEMS there are so many restrictions on what will work with what (moreso than used to be), incompatibilities and laser-focused restrictions.
I typically feel confident about these things, but when I start reading the various threads, I feel like a n00b. I have to ask because, as you've seen here, I convinced myself out of the possibility of rooting.
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Snowby123 said:
First thing I want to say is I appreciate root just as much as you.
Secondly, PingPongRoot is incompatible with 5.1.1, but depending on which variant you have,
you might still be able to root or roll back to 5.0.2
Which variant do you have?
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Good to know. Possibly. Thing is, I haven't activated my phone yet (and I just got it 5 hours ago) because I know it will deactivate my old one and I'm still doing Titanium Backup to Dropbox. And I'm just incredibly terrified that I will lose the ability to do something that requires my old phone to be active. I don't actually know what that would be, but that's just me.
So, I don't know what variant I have yet. I will report back on that. I should be ready to activate by tomorrow morning.
And thanks for the response. Whether you think I'm an idiot or not (goes for you too drock212), I'm glad I'm not alone in figuring this out.

hamstrman said:
And thanks for the response. Whether you think I'm an idiot or not (goes for you too drock212), I'm glad I'm not alone in figuring this out.
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I do not like to ever use the word 'idiot' on XDA.
Newbie is the more appropriate word to use on these forums since 'idiot' is disrespectful.
Also, you sound more like the kinda guy who is not new to Android, just new to the Galaxy S6.

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Now I've tested my ability to transfer everything over from one device to another (my tablet), so I know it will work. I just keep reading more and more about KNOX (which I successfully avoided on my S5) and how it's unavoidable on the S6. How you can't rollback to an earlier version of Android (since I got my phone today, I'm assuming I have 5.1.1). I don't care about Samsung Pay. At all.
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KNOX & many other apps can be made non-functioning with the Google Playstore app:
"Package Disabler Pro".
It is very easy to follow or change any of their suggested recommendations.
Settings can be saved or restorded to or from .xml files. Password protection is possible.
Worthwhile.

Snowby123 said:
First thing I want to say is I appreciate root just as much as you.
Secondly, PingPongRoot is incompatible with 5.1.1, but depending on which variant you have,
you might still be able to root or roll back to 5.0.2
Which variant do you have?
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Hey! I have version 5.0.2 on my phone! Fantastic. Now I just have to turn off auto updating.
Update: My phone is not supported by PingPongRoot... G920PVPU1AOC9.
M%#$&^@#r F*($&!er!

hamstrman said:
Hey! I have version 5.0.2 on my phone! Fantastic. Now I just have to turn off auto updating.
Update: My phone is not supported by PingPongRoot... G920PVPU1AOC9.
M%#$&^@#r F*($&!er!
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Did you try using odin to revert back to an earlier build?

Snowby123 said:
First thing I want to say is I appreciate root just as much as you.
Secondly, PingPongRoot is incompatible with 5.1.1, but depending on which variant you have,
you might still be able to root or roll back to 5.0.2
Which variant do you have?
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Did you try using odin to revert back to an earlier build?
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No... I... feel really dumb right now. Rooting has always been so easy. My build just WAS fine.
I will go find ODIN and a tutorial on that.
Update: Not finding anything remotely like that on the Internet, but will search these forums.
Edit 2: Not finding anything. I assume I'm searching incorrect terms. And the PingPongRoot thread is closed because people couldn't stay on topic!
Also wondering if downgrading my build will trip KNOX, for which PPR is specifically made to avoid.

Found this on rooting the sprint s6
http://techbeasts.com/2015/04/27/install-twrp-recovery-root-sprint-galaxy-s6-g920p/

hamstrman said:
No... I... feel really dumb right now. Rooting has always been so easy. My build just WAS fine.
I will go find ODIN and a tutorial on that.
Update: Not finding anything remotely like that on the Internet, but will search these forums.
Edit 2: Not finding anything. I assume I'm searching incorrect terms. And the PingPongRoot thread is closed because people couldn't stay on topic!
Also wondering if downgrading my build will trip KNOX, for which PPR is specifically made to avoid.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6-edge/general/sm-g925f-s6-firmware-thread-t3078841
This is the thread to follow if you want to downgrade.
Restoring the stock firmware WILL NOT trip KNOX.
It is true that the PingPongRoot thread is closed, but you still can sideload the apk.

Snowby123 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6-edge/general/sm-g925f-s6-firmware-thread-t3078841
This is the thread to follow if you want to downgrade.
Restoring the stock firmware WILL NOT trip KNOX.
It is true that the PingPongRoot thread is closed, but you still can sideload the apk.
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This is great. I had found this thread, but didn't know if it applied.
And I already installed PPR, it just told me when I clicked "Get Root" that my build wasn't supported. Is there some close cousin of my build that would be "correct" to change to? Like the closest build name?
I have: G920PVPU1AOC9
On the list of approved builds, I see, for example, G920PVPU1AOCF.

hamstrman said:
This is great. I had found this thread, but didn't know if it applied.
And I already installed PPR, it just told me when I clicked "Get Root" that my build wasn't supported. Is there some close cousin of my build that would be "correct" to change to? Like the closest build name?
I have: G920PVPU1AOC9
On the list of approved builds, I see, for example, G920PVPU1AOCF.
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Since your build number is for the Sprint variant, downgrade to the earliest build there is for the sprint variant.
If it is listed on the PingPongRoot thread, install it. The one you just mentioned looks like the one to use. Try it.

An update: Worked beautifully. Laterally changed my build from G920PVPU1AOC9 to G920PVPU1AOCF - success!
Installed PingPongRoot - success!
And everything followed... Titanium Backup, Lucky Patcher, etc.
Last part is kind of important, though. Tried to install Modded Google Play Store. Failed. Did research and found out I need Xposed to install it.
So I install Xposed (I already had a backup). It tells me my framework is outdated. So I do some more digging and find out I need a special version of Xposed for Lollipop, which I get and install. There's a .zip that I have to flash via recovery in order to make Xposed work which would make Lucky Patcher work which would make the Store work.
Flashing the zip requires TWRP or CWM recovery. Can I install either of those without tripping KNOX? This is getting way too complicated. I mean, logically, I would think that since I have PingPongRoot already, that I'm good.