Best rom for the S6? (From a battery perspective) - Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi
What is the best rom from a battery perspective right now and how much will it increase battery life? Right now I get 3-4 hours on 4g and 5-7 hours on Wifi on stock, rooted with greenify. Will a lite rom help even more on battery? Also, which would you say is the best right now and why?
Thanks in advance

Questions like these(best rom bla bla) are not tolerated every rom here is a result of hardwork and efforts from devs which are all unique in their own ways, would suggest you to try and use what you like.
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Why aren't questions like this "tolerated"?

Faspaiso said:
Hi
What is the best rom from a battery perspective right now and how much will it increase battery life? Right now I get 3-4 hours on 4g and 5-7 hours on Wifi on stock, rooted with greenify. Will a lite rom help even more on battery? Also, which would you say is the best right now and why?
Thanks in advance
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You won't notice a difference in battery life from Stock to custom, except maybe a decrease due to wake bugs maybe.
Your battery life is pretty good.
Rule of thumb, ROM's might allude to having better battery life than others, but they almost certainly do not.

Japultra said:
Why aren't questions like this "tolerated"?
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Well no idea either. I asked what the best rom was from a BATTERY perspective. Some are for speed, others battery and some features.
I fully understand they're all hard work.

king_below_my_lord said:
Questions like these(best rom bla bla) are not tolerated every rom here is a result of hardwork and efforts from devs which are all unique in their own ways, would suggest you to try and use what you like.
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Not tolerated by who exactly?
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kroonys3 said:
Not tolerated by who exactly?
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Uhmm... The community? Well as far as I see now there is no such issue's in the Galaxy S6 forums, I come from the Galaxy S2 community where any similar questions(literally anything that started with BEST ROM...) are flamed by other members and occasionally outright locked or removed by the moderator's.
I myself never had an issue with those kind off question though.
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The question is pretty much not answerable for a number of reasons.
People get different results due to how they use their phones and what software the load and run on the same ROM, and to answer your question someone would have had tried all the available roms for enough time to form an opinion.
Lastly, this is a general S6 forum so people here are using all kinds of different variants of the S6 making the comparison even less likey.
I have a stock rooted ROM and am quite pleased with the battery usage on it, YMMV.

Latest stock 5.1.1 ROM specific for your country.

roydok said:
Latest stock 5.1.1 ROM specific for your country.
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Based on what? Reaching 8+ hours SOT? If no, then the answer for now is XtreStoLite.

In theory, the lightest ROM with the least amount of bloatware may extend your battery life. But in reality, phone usage is the main culprit of battery life. I have tried different ROMs with my old S3 trying to extend its battery life. But in the end my efforts are in vain as I put too much work for a very little gain of less than 30 mins. This also applies to the S6. Modifying usage (i.e. turning wifi/bluetooth when not in use, working with dimmer screen, etc...), buying extra battery or powerbanks and chargers for charging on the go and anywhere all did the trick of preventing phone usage interruption due to a drained battery.

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Battery Life

Have one of these, rooted, stock rom on Rogers (LTE).
The battery life seems inconsistent... Some days it seems fine but days like today with 11 hours off the charger, with the two highest battery culprits being android OS (46%) and android system (16%) the battery life is already at 26%.
Other days when its on my desk it uses nowhere near as much...
vect0r said:
Have one of these, rooted, stock rom on Rogers (LTE).
The battery life seems inconsistent... Some days it seems fine but days like today with 11 hours off the charger, with the two highest battery culprits being android OS (46%) and android system (16%) the battery life is already at 26%.
Other days when its on my desk it uses nowhere near as much...
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Titanium Backup.. "Freeze" tons of Bloatware.. get 18 hours of fun
Your gonna get reamed for posting in the dev section of the forums.
shansmi said:
Your gonna get reamed for posting in the dev section of the forums.
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Hope he brought some lube
Haha assume the position
vect0r said:
Have one of these, rooted, stock rom on Rogers (LTE).
The battery life seems inconsistent... Some days it seems fine but days like today with 11 hours off the charger, with the two highest battery culprits being android OS (46%) and android system (16%) the battery life is already at 26%.
Other days when its on my desk it uses nowhere near as much...
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Man I know I should say something but I'm just gonna sit back and watch this one unfold lol no astroglide
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But seriously though, post this in q&a as you will not get reamed in the ___.
Answer: try one of the roms in this forum since that is what this forum is for, roms and development and such. They should be your answer since your current rom is filled with BS that sucks battery away my friend
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@jayharper08 you are welcome here!!!!!!!!!!! hahahaha
I used stock with root and juicedefender battery is fine on mine
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@jayharper08 you are welcome here!!!!!!!!!!! hahahaha
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I'm here!
OP, please keep questions in the Q&A section. These guys were nice tonight, which I like to see. Keep it up
Seriously though, OP, development section is for development threads only. Hope you get your answer
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vect0r said:
Have one of these, rooted, stock rom on Rogers (LTE).
The battery life seems inconsistent... Some days it seems fine but days like today with 11 hours off the charger, with the two highest battery culprits being android OS (46%) and android system (16%) the battery life is already at 26%.
Other days when its on my desk it uses nowhere near as much...
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If you are rooted and not afraid of flashing ROMs than get BeastMOD ROM. The name says it all. I m heavy user and i go for a day with full charge.
jayharper08 said:
I'm here!
OP, please keep questions in the Q&A section. These guys were nice tonight, which I like to see. Keep it up
Seriously though, OP, development section is for development threads only. Hope you get your answer
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I realized I posted it there once I left the house and I knew what I was going to come back to.
My bad.
appdroid said:
If you are rooted and not afraid of flashing ROMs than get BeastMOD ROM. The name says it all. I m heavy user and i go for a day with full charge.
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You talking about the TMo version? I did a search and I cant find a Skyrocket or Rogers version of a BeastMOD ROM.
BTW I get have been getting 34-37 hrs @ 20-15% on the BoneSTOCKeteer-v1.0 ROM with med to light use. Your mileage may vary, but stock ROM only lasted a day with the same use.
edit: the more you play with/use your phone the faster the battery is going to peter out no matter the ROM
I noticed that wifi has a big impact on battery life. I hit about 50% of battery life with it on in about 5 hours but with it off and moderate use I can get 2 days use.
Just a thought and I froze lots of the SNS syncing apps with TB. I dont use those since i use another program for FB.
I actually like the ATT Smart Wifi app. Shuts down wifi when not in use. I think the free version of Juice Defender doesn't do that.
I have now owned my 727R for 6 weeks, coming from an iphone 4. I am finding the battery life inconsistent from charge to charge and anywhere from barely adequate to downright poor. Maximum I have ever gotten was 26 hours with minimal use and minimum has been 10 hours with minimal use.
I have installed and use Juice defender, and have looked at a variety of apps such as cpu spy, cpu hound, traffic monitor. I have turned off notification as much as possible and all other tricks under the sun.
My phone does not seem to go to deep sleep often and a lot of times it shows as awake even though the screen was off for a while.
The straw that broke the camle was when I cmpared notes with my clleague who has a Galaxy S (I know, no 4g, no LTE, smaller csreen). But he is getting 90% battery life with wifi and bluetooth on after 7 hours 15 minutes (minimal use). In the same time period I am down to 60% with bluetooth off!
I am not planning on rooting the phone and using custom ROMS or Kernels right now.
What gives? What do I look at to improve battery life?
Thanks
i notice with out a lot of changes i get horrible horrible battery life. but with a custom rom like quick wiz. i turn screen down. wifi off. under clock it and use a battery saver plus task killer i get two days moderet (use
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I would suggest since Roger stock rom sucks the life out of the battery to root it and use faux123 kernel and Gideon's script to under clock it. Im using at&t stock rom rooted and faux123 kernel and I haven't had a bad battery day yet.. currently 12hrs moderate use 73% still.... not bad at all. Give it a try.. its not like it could any worse lol
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dmunjal said:
I actually like the ATT Smart Wifi app. Shuts down wifi when not in use. I think the free version of Juice Defender doesn't do that.
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It looks like this isn't available for Skyrocket.
1) Does it work like it should, and does it save battery, or is the battery savings negated by other junk running with it in the background? Reviews seem very mixed.
2) If you got it on a SR, how? Would pulling the APK from another device work?
rezadue said:
I have now owned my 727R for 6 weeks, coming from an iphone 4. I am finding the battery life inconsistent from charge to charge and anywhere from barely adequate to downright poor. Maximum I have ever gotten was 26 hours with minimal use and minimum has been 10 hours with minimal use.
I have installed and use Juice defender, and have looked at a variety of apps such as cpu spy, cpu hound, traffic monitor. I have turned off notification as much as possible and all other tricks under the sun.
My phone does not seem to go to deep sleep often and a lot of times it shows as awake even though the screen was off for a while.
The straw that broke the camle was when I cmpared notes with my clleague who has a Galaxy S (I know, no 4g, no LTE, smaller csreen). But he is getting 90% battery life with wifi and bluetooth on after 7 hours 15 minutes (minimal use). In the same time period I am down to 60% with bluetooth off!
I am not planning on rooting the phone and using custom ROMS or Kernels right now.
What gives? What do I look at to improve battery life?
Thanks
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I hated my skyrocket when I first got it because the battery sucked. Never could make it through a full day of average use. I did a search, found out how to root and install a custom rom and now I love it. I can go a full day and still have 20% left. All I can recommend is rooting and at least remove bloatware. I've never seen a single skyrocket user happy with their battery life on stock. Maybe sell or trade it for another iPhone.
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[Q] Roms & Batery Life

Hi, mitchel0 here, quick question,
Do different roms have different affects on battery life? If so, is there a place I can look to find what roms have the best battery life? Would major roms like CM10 have the best battery life? Sorry if these questions are redundant, I am running Codename android on my ATT HOX, and I am satisfied with everything this rom brings to the table, but the battery life, so if anyone can shed some light on this topic, it'd be greatly appreciated :fingers-crossed: thanks!
P.S, could flashing a different kernel help my battery life?
mitchel0 said:
Hi, mitchel0 here, quick question,
Do different roms have different affects on battery life? If so, is there a place I can look to find what roms have the best battery life? Would major roms like CM10 have the best battery life? Sorry if these questions are redundant, I am running Codename android on my ATT HOX, and I am satisfied with everything this rom brings to the table, but the battery life, so if anyone can shed some light on this topic, it'd be greatly appreciated :fingers-crossed: thanks!
P.S, could flashing a different kernel help my battery life?
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Sense will have better battery life in most cases
Have you tried using a battery optimizers app like juice defender or easy battery saver?
I'm running easy bat saver and I'm getting x1.8 extra battery. But I also keep my mobile network off unless I leave the house out of range of ny router.
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There is no good answer to your question. For every ROM that people claim to have "best" battery life, you will also find people that have miserable battery on the same ROM. Just too many variables in how people use their phones.
Also, radio usually has more to do with battery life than ROM. If you are having battery issues, try a different radio.
Thanks guys. One more question now, will different radios affect my coverage? Like will I get better service with one but worse with another?
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mitchel0 said:
Thanks guys. One more question now, will different radios affect my coverage? Like will I get better service with one but worse with another?
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Possibly. Or you may see no difference at all.
Battery drain may be due to poor reception, if the phone is constantly trying to connect to the network. The right radio can sometimes fix both the reception and the battery drain.
But don't expect a miracle. Differences can sometimes be subtle, if even noticeable.

[Q] Most stable battery efficient ROM?

I'm fixing a phone for someone. At first it was stock and crashed very often about once every 10 minutes of use, so I flashed cyanogenmod but the battery life is much worse. I just need a good stable battery efficient ROM and the other features like ICS don't matter much. Any suggestions?
Daedalus_ said:
I'm fixing a phone for someone. At first it was stock and crashed very often about once every 10 minutes of use, so I flashed cyanogenmod but the battery life is much worse. I just need a good stable battery efficient ROM and the other features like ICS don't matter much. Any suggestions?
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Try them, and find out for yourself. Everyone seems to get different results, different preferences and different usage of the device.
bhundven said:
Try them, and find out for yourself. Everyone seems to get different results, different preferences and different usage of the device.
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The problem with that is that I'm not using the device so I can't test out several roms during the day and find out what has good battery life.
Daedalus_ said:
The problem with that is that I'm not using the device so I can't test out several roms during the day and find out what has good battery life.
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Then just leave the phone off?!? That's the best battery saving rom EVAH!
Daedalus_ said:
The problem with that is that I'm not using the device so I can't test out several roms during the day and find out what has good battery life.
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I didn't ask what's the most stable, battery efficient ROM on SGSII forum when my friend gave me a day. Flash a ROM, give it to your friend and see what he thinks of it, then if he doesn't like it then flash another ROM.
It's all about preference, you might like SCOM ROM (GB) but your friend might prefer CyanogenMod9 (ICS) more. But if your really looking towards battery life go for Gingerbread ROM.
th3controller said:
I didn't ask what's the most stable, battery efficient ROM on SGSII forum when my friend gave me a day. Flash a ROM, give it to your friend and see what he thinks of it, then if he doesn't like it then flash another ROM.
It's all about preference, you might like SCOM ROM (GB) but your friend might prefer CyanogenMod9 (ICS) more. But if your really looking towards battery life go for Gingerbread ROM.
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You guys really can't just tell me what works for you or what you had experience with? I already tried to help once and it takes weeks before this person has free time to give me their phone to try and fix it again.
It's not like this phone has different hardware from all the rest of the galaxy s 4g's and they are dependent on the phone. They should all work the same so it shouldn't be such a big deal to ask for some measly suggestions.
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You guys really can't just tell me what works for you or what you had experience with? I already tried to help once and it takes weeks before this person has free time to give me their phone to try and fix it again.
It's not like this phone has different hardware from all the rest of the galaxy s 4g's and they are dependent on the phone. They should all work the same so it shouldn't be such a big deal to ask for some measly suggestions.
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Not everyone is going to get the same results from the same rom. It all depends on your usage.
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gregcapps said:
Not everyone is going to get the same results from the same rom. It all depends on your usage.
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Please state with reasons and what variables there are and what the tradeoffs are or you are talking out of your ass. Of course people's usages vary, but if you keep your usage constant while changing roms like you typically would or have a composite number than your can compare roms for battery life.
It's seriously not that hard to quantify which roms last longer on battery. This is ridiculous.
If it's that easy to you (may be?), do the testing and post the results. Document and publish your methodology so it can be peer reviewed. Please keep it up to date as ROMs are updated.
I look forward to your findings.
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I just told you that gingerbread roms have great battery life.
There is no definitive answer bro. I dont get the same battery life as jeffsf or FBis251 on AOKP. And neither one of them get the same battery life. It really does depend on each phone and the users habits of use.
Im going ahead and reporting this thread because the community here dislikes these threads. They never end well and you have POHR people being belligerent .
eollie said:
There is no definitive answer bro. I dont get the same battery life as jeffsf or FBis251 on AOKP. And neither one of them get the same battery life. It really does depend on each phone and the users habits of use.
Im going ahead and reporting this thread because the community here dislikes these threads. They never end well and you have POHR people being belligerent .
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As I've said before, usages vary but it's pretty reasonable to think that some people have used a few roms while keeping their usage constant. What makes it frustrating is that the people on this thread spew some faux wisdom that it's impossible to compare which it isn't.
I've had pretty good battery life so far with HebMIUI when it comes to ICS. Of course, GB ROMS such as Valhalla Final, Valhalla Black, and Octane are known for the excellent battery life.
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All of this is far too subjective. Try them and make your own decision.

[Q] Stock + GB or ROM?

Hi guys,
Thanks for all your help so far! Love this forum.
I'm pretty noob when it comes to Android customization, so I wanted your opinion: I'm trying to decide whether to run a stable, fast ROM, or simply stock with GravityBox and Franco Kernel.
Here are my considerations:
I'm not an advanced user, but I do use my phone a lot for work and personal things like email, browser, gps, videos, etc. Since I rely on it a lot, stability is pretty key. However, I get really bothered by some UI restrictions on stock (in particular non-customizable Quick Settings, non-customizable status/nav bars, and no PIE, but other small things count too). GravityBox is sufficient for the customization I need, but at this point speed and battery life come into consideration also. I wouldn't mind a longer battery since I use the phone pretty heavily. Speed is a consideration in that it would help me get things done faster.
So I guess my dilemma is whether I should use stock while relying on GB for customization and Franco kernel for battery efficiency, or if I should run a stable, fast ROM like SlimKat for the same purposes?
Xposed will slow things down so IMHO if a ROM has all your needs, use that.
That said I use a ROM and xposed
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Xposed will slow things down so IMHO if a ROM has all your needs, use that.
That said I use a ROM and xposed
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Exactly. But even I prefer stock + GB
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Thanks for the replies guys. What ROM would you recommend for GB-like customization options, stability, and good battery life?
karabasdutapis said:
Hi guys,
Thanks for all your help so far! Love this forum.
I'm pretty noob when it comes to Android customization, so I wanted your opinion: I'm trying to decide whether to run a stable, fast ROM, or simply stock with GravityBox and Franco Kernel.
Here are my considerations:
I'm not an advanced user, but I do use my phone a lot for work and personal things like email, browser, gps, videos, etc. Since I rely on it a lot, stability is pretty key. However, I get really bothered by some UI restrictions on stock (in particular non-customizable Quick Settings, non-customizable status/nav bars, and no PIE, but other small things count too). GravityBox is sufficient for the customization I need, but at this point speed and battery life come into consideration also. I wouldn't mind a longer battery since I use the phone pretty heavily. Speed is a consideration in that it would help me get things done faster.
So I guess my dilemma is whether I should use stock while relying on GB for customization and Franco kernel for battery efficiency, or if I should run a stable, fast ROM like SlimKat for the same purposes?
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Yep, SlimKat, If stock Slim is missing a feature, about 50 people in that thread build their own Slim with some mods. One guy builds a version that has a DL/UL speed indication, L-style navbar buttons, and a bunch of other things.
Kernel, use Code_Blue. I prefer it over Franco. Just don't use the stock Slim kernel.
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Exactly. But even I prefer stock + GB
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Stock ROM is awful IMHO.
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rootSU said:
Stock ROM is awful IMHO.
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Thats why we have slim rom
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Thats why we have slim rom
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Indeed. Even then I still add xposed though.
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I'll add my usual comment..... Lol
Roms have near nothing to do with battery life. It's setup and usage that make or break battery life.
Don't factor battery life into Rom decisions.... They're all the same. ?
KJ said:
I'll add my usual comment..... Lol
Roms have near nothing to do with battery life. It's setup and usage that make or break battery life.
Don't factor battery life into Rom decisions.... They're all the same. ?
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The only way a ROM can really affect battery is if a feature is designed poorly or there's a derp in the build..
But yeah, you can't really improve "ROM battery life", you can only make sure there aren't any problems which affect it negatively.
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Xposed will slow things down so IMHO if a ROM has all your needs, use that.
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Really? I have the stock ROM and xposed with six different modules and I haven't noticed a substantial performance difference. Perhaps it's one of the modules you have installed or maybe xposed doesn't play as well with your ROM as it does with stock?
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Really? I have the stock ROM and xposed with six different modules and I haven't noticed a substantial performance difference. Perhaps it's one of the modules you have installed or maybe xposed doesn't play as well with your ROM as it does with stock?
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Xposed is always going to slow it down. The amount, however, is different for everyone.
KJ said:
I'll add my usual comment..... Lol
Roms have near nothing to do with battery life. It's setup and usage that make or break battery life.
Don't factor battery life into Rom decisions.... They're all the same. ?
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So what about things like Franco Kernel, which claims to slow down processor when not in use to conserve battery?
And thanks for the help guys. I flashed SlimKat for now and am so far pretty happy with it.
Lethargy said:
Xposed is always going to slow it down. The amount, however, is different for everyone.
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Currently m an exception . Only module m using is gb...and by far havent noticed any slowdown...
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Currently m an exception . Only module m using is gb...and by far havent noticed any slowdown...
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Might not be noticeable, or it might be obvious, it's still always going to slow it down overall. Different experience between different people.
karabasdutapis said:
So what about things like Franco Kernel, which claims to slow down processor when not in use to conserve battery?
And thanks for the help guys. I flashed SlimKat for now and am so far pretty happy with it.
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I've used every Rom and kernel almost and after setting each up how I regularly do, and with similar usage patterns always....my battery times were always similar.
I never play with the clock speeds I should add......but that's my experience. The roms or kernels I used made no real difference to my battery life.
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Yes I've seen lots of "claims"....And guess what, many believe them. ?

Which custom ROM/Magisk module/kernal is best for extension of the battery life

Dear everyone,
I' ve trapped by the battery issue of my phone. I absolutely love this phone but the battery life is so weak to me. Since my last phone is Mate20p which can be used for 2 days, I feel OP7pro is an only one-day phone and even need to charge twice in a day. However, I find there are so many alternative choices for me like in terms of the kernels, ROMs, etc. I am a new here, just wanna know which project is the best for extending the battery life? Thank you guys so much. Oh, by the way, I expect these projects have not many obvious issues for daily usage.
Kind regard,
jayxiao171735 said:
Dear everyone,
I' ve trapped by the battery issue of my phone. I absolutely love this phone but the battery life is so weak to me. Since my last phone is Mate20p which can be used for 2 days, I feel OP7pro is an only one-day phone and even need to charge twice in a day. However, I find there are so many alternative choices for me like in terms of the kernels, ROMs, etc. I am a new here, just wanna know which project is the best for extending the battery life? Thank you guys so much. Oh, by the way, I expect these projects have not many obvious issues for daily usage.
Kind regard,
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My GM1917's battery life benefitted greatly from just NoLimits Magisk mod debloat. No issues at all. Stock OOS 9.5.11 and stock kernel. Also have forced 90hz and fixed resolution to QHD+.
NoLimits + Renovate Ice + Arter79 kernel has done me wonders. ~ 10%/hr drain on screen .3-.5%/hr drain standby.
Just debloating might improve it...
galaxys said:
Just debloating might improve it...
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what does debloating mean..
galaxys said:
Just debloating might improve it...
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Oh, I know, but I think might be not enough, I tried xXx limited yet.
jayxiao171735 said:
Oh, I know, but I think might be not enough, I tried xXx limited yet.
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Install a good kernel (smurf kernel, kirisukura) and set it up for battery saving

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