Hi, I am new to XDA and this is my first ever post, so Devs, be easy on me.
I own a Sony Xperia SP device (c5302) which is currently running Android 4.3 (12.1.A.1.201) and I want to gain root access on my device.
I looked at several tutorials and videos and found that I need to have the Bootloader unlocked first of all. I am not sure about the exact procedure as every tutorial follows a slightly differently process.
Here are my questions as a newbie.
I want to know that what losses can I have if I try to unlock my bootloader?
After rooting, will I be able to get the same android and build version running on my device i.e. Android 4.3 and build 12.1.A.1.201?
Will I be able to get future updates from Sony that are shown in the phone as notifications as and when the updates arrive?
Is it possible to bring my phone back to the same condition it is in today? Like it was never rooted or the bootloader was never unlocked, because I want to avail warranty as well?
1. Warranty
2. Ofcourse
3. I think this is device / manufacturer specific...
4. You can always reflash to stock ROM, talking about bootloader some bootloaders can be unlocked but can't be relocked this is again device / manufacturer specific.
I've been watching the developer board regarding the root and locked bootloader issue, and I've spent hours researching this and have yet to find a solution that's known to work without loss of something, likely a permanent or semi permanent loss. My device is a Z3 model D6616. I'm unhappy with the phone for several other reasons, but haven't owned an un-rooted phone for some time, and prefer keeping this phone if I can root it successfully. Root with stock firmware is my objective and am only interested in responses from people that have themselves rooted (and dealt with bootloader issues) a Z3.
- Root phone installing current T-mobile stock firmware.
- Known loss of function: Sony DRM dependant features/funtion only (from memory, mostly related to camera low light performance and DRM playback issues)
- Other loss of function experienced with stock features, or any other problem with any other app. Especially concerned with root dependant features of Play apps? Also ad blockers?
- Waranty loss (potential) and loss of OTA updates understood.
- Feature/function loss with workarounds or fixed that survive power cycle?
- Expect permament bootlocker inability to relock
- A link to the specific process you used, any problems you encountered whatever the cause. For example it usually takes me at least 3 attempts to root using any complex process, and I always read through 5 times before starting and download every needed file and program in advance.
Again: Sony Xperia z3 D6616 T-mobile
Firmware: 4.4.4 23.0.3.1.123
Software: D6166 R16B
In the past, I've had the most problems when an understood part of a process is not explicitly stated, or I've ignored or misunderstood a step. Plugging and unplugging from usb to PC a typical example. I don't have the technical know how to critique or ignore, so always attempt to follow all instructions without variance. I've had some problems, and most were solved by starting the process again. I hesitate to ask for help since the last time I did that I was attacked for witholding information when asked if I had backed up the phone. Since i didn't have access to the PC at the time of the question I honestly answered I didn't know (since I had attempted to but couldn't confirm). If you've ever answered a question here implying the request or requester is stupid or dishonest, I'm fully aware of my ignorance and my own integrity, and other personality traits, so please ignore this request, which accepts my lack of knowlege and has no tolerance for your issues not previously resolved through your own peaceful and respectful process.
Please only respond if you have personally rooted this specific phone model. If you have not, but know someone who has, please ask them to review this post and respond.
Nobody has rooted this phone without unlocking the bootloader. If you unlock to root, you will permanently lose DRM keys from the TA partition with no way to recover. No current root method works on 4.4.4 on the Z3. No one knows when or if an exploit will be found. We all want root. If you want it now, unlock the bootloader. If you can wait, wait. It's your call either way. As soon as a root method surfaces, best believe it will be in these forums. I'll be waiting with you...
First of all, check *#*#7378423#*#* to see if you bootloader can be unlocked or not.
Coz I think 6616's bootloader is unlockable.
freddy1991 said:
First of all, check *#*#7378423#*#* to see if you bootloader can be unlocked or not.
Coz I think 6616's bootloader is unlockable.
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This is true. D6616 owner here, T-MO not unlockable yet :/ eagerly awaiting root as well as I really enjoy the z3, maybe even more than my Nexus 6 (gasp, blasphemy!)
Thanks For the Responses
freddy you addressed my concern, exactly. My phone reports:
Rooting Status:
Boot Unlocker Allowed: No
Although variants of the z3 have been bootlocker unlocked and rooted, I have not found a clear claim that was successfully done with D6616 z3. Since I'm a new T-mobile customer, this and their attitude about it are a poor way to start. I have a HTC phone I haven't returned, maybe I can get them to take the Z3 back instead. While I have benefited from and appreciate the great work so many people have done to make our phones usable and available to us, I've seen how carriers, mfgs, and users push good phones to market crippled by junk and unecessarily locked down. it's time to consider the mamufacturers that have been successful building good phones and selling in places like China at much lower prices.
Regarding any loss of DRM, I couldn't care less. This phone takes worse low light photos and video than my rooted Samsung G3, making it functionaly useless to me. Add to that the lack of a rational UI for telephony and IM, and done with Sony.
To be clear, if the bootloader can be unlocked and the phone can be rooted and you have done this yourself, please post.
Well...
I think there is no way you could unlock the bootloader of 6616.
The only way is to wait for the root on locked bootloader.
Check here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2940539
But that means you have to stick in the .93 firmware, even if the exploit is also usable for Z3.
Or return your 6616 and buy a 6603 or 6653 variant.
BREAKING NEWS
http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/giefroot-rooting-tool-cve-2014-4322-t3011598
Man, No bootloader unlock = Useless phone
HORiZUN said:
BREAKING NEWS
http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/giefroot-rooting-tool-cve-2014-4322-t3011598
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Nope.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58468332&postcount=815
I'm similarly confused about this whole thing, this new Giefroot program means we can all potentially get root for our devices, but we still lose the DRM keys right? So that means we can never have the Sony camera/image processing processes back again right?
Thwwack said:
I'm similarly confused about this whole thing, this new Giefroot program means we can all potentially get root for our devices, but we still lose the DRM keys right? So that means we can never have the Sony camera/image processing processes back again right?
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NO
Unlocking the bootloader = loss of DRM
Rooting that does not involve unlocking the bootloader means you keep the DRM keys
gregbradley said:
NO
Unlocking the bootloader = loss of DRM
Rooting that does not involve unlocking the bootloader means you keep the DRM keys
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Thanks, I'm new to Android and this is all over my head. To clarify, Giefroot does this without unlocking the bootloader?
It's all pretty frustrating, I gotta say... I'd love to install Cyanogenmod on this, but losing key features on the device is a pretty harsh trade off.
Thwwack said:
Thanks, I'm new to Android and this is all over my head. To clarify, Giefroot does this without unlocking the bootloader?
It's all pretty frustrating, I gotta say... I'd love to install Cyanogenmod on this, but losing key features on the device is a pretty harsh trade off.
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Yes, giefroot does not unlock the boot. There is only one way to do that and that is to obtaining the code from sony and fastboot it either manually or using flashtool.
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I just bought the verizon variant of the z3. I've ready different things saying that they aren't root able yet. But, I've also read that as long as they're on 4.4.4 they still are. Mine is definitely still on 4.4.4. Can I root this phone? It has like, 60+processes running all the time that slow this thing down to barely usable..... Help!
you should be able to root providing you have firmware that is rootable, maybe you are confusing rooting with unlocking the bootloader for custom kernels
Hello,
I recently bought a Sony Xperia Z5 Compact (E5823), and was instantly appalled by the amount of pre-installed bloatware that I can't get rid of. I am now trying to root my phone in order to do so. There is however a lot of information to take in on the matter, and a lot of it seems conflicting to a newbie like myself when so much is dependant on device and android version.
Some info on my phone
Sony Xperia Z5 Compact (E5823)
Android version: 6.0.1
Kernel version: 3.10.84-perf-gf1cfa5f, [email protected] #1, Mon May 30 18:41:52 2016
Build number: 32.2.A.0.253
Rooting status: Bootloader unlock allowed: No
Basically - just out of the box, updated to the latest firmware, a couple of downloads from the app store, and that's it.
Does my "Bootloader unlock allowed: No" status mean that I cannot unlock the bootloader by any means? According to http://developer.sonymobile.com/unlockbootloader/unlock-yourboot-loader/ the Z5 should be allowed to do so, why isn't mine?
Ultimately what I want to do for the moment is rooting my phone. Nothing more, and with as little change as possible. Ideally I'd like not to lose any functionality either (read about losing several camera and image related features due to DRM, amongst others). I found this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z5/development/root-automatic-repack-stock-kernel-dm-t3301605 - is this the best suited guide for me? And will it definitely work on my phone, despite the Service Menu telling me that I cannot unlock the bootloader?
In such a case that the above guide is what I'm looking for - once done and if successful, will I be able to download firmware updates as my phone notifies me about them, without further messing around? (the normal/traditional way)
Thanks in advance,
Chris.
ps: I'm not worried about voiding the warranty, and I'm used to poking around in untraditional areas, albeit not on Android thus far.
You cannot unlock your bootloader or root so all guides are useless. Sony say the Z5 bootloader is unlockable however they lock some on carriers request. You want to try a different firmware I find that nordic has less bloat. You can also disable most apps aswell
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That's unlikely to be the reason in my case - my phone was bought retail through Amazon, not with a carrier contract.
Is there nothing that can be done to change the bootloader unlocking permissions?
ChrisMB said:
That's unlikely to be the reason in my case - my phone was bought retail through Amazon, not with a carrier contract.
Is there nothing that can be done to change the bootloader unlocking permissions?
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You can't do anything about it, but I suppose you could ask Sony if they'll unlock it for you, or contact Amazon and ask if they'll swap it for an unlockable unit.
So basically I want to root my phone.
As mentioned in the title above, this phone of mine exists nowhere as per MY knowledge in being root-able.
This phone was able to be rooted in lower versions. Now I don't think it exists.
1) THE OFFICIAL SONY SITE, won't let me unlock the bootloader.
2) Without unlocking the bootloader I THINK I won't be able to flash a custom ROM.
3) I need help with this.
-Unlocking the bootloader.
-Rooting it
-Getting the best custom rom
-MAYBE being able to use Nougat.
So can anyone on this website kindly help me?
I am a noob and am pretty new, so my knowledge is low, but I am looking forward to root this device now.
Regards