I just bought the verizon variant of the z3. I've ready different things saying that they aren't root able yet. But, I've also read that as long as they're on 4.4.4 they still are. Mine is definitely still on 4.4.4. Can I root this phone? It has like, 60+processes running all the time that slow this thing down to barely usable..... Help!
you should be able to root providing you have firmware that is rootable, maybe you are confusing rooting with unlocking the bootloader for custom kernels
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I am just jumping into the android moding world, and I just can't seem to find clarification on a particular issue. It seems that most phones are rootable but many have a locked bootloader. From what I can glean through reading many posts here and searching the web, the geekish options that you give up on a phone with a locked bootloader is the ability to flash the ROM. However, this is contradicted by examples here on this site of ROMs for phones with locked bootloaders. (Moto Atrix for example.) Is it that custom ROMs can only go so far with rooting alone, like the inability to replace the kernel? What exactly do you give up by only achieving root with a locked bootloader vs a rooted phone with an unlocked bootloader? Is it ROM related at all?
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I am just jumping into the android moding world, and I just can't seem to find clarification on a particular issue. It seems that most phones are rootable but many have a locked bootloader. From what I can glean through reading many posts here and searching the web, the geekish options that you give up on a phone with a locked bootloader is the ability to flash the ROM. However, this is contradicted by examples here on this site of ROMs for phones with locked bootloaders. (Moto Atrix for example.) Is it that custom ROMs can only go so far with rooting alone, like the inability to replace the kernel? What exactly do you give up by only achieving root with a locked bootloader vs a rooted phone with an unlocked bootloader? Is it ROM related at all?
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You can't flash a custom rom without root. Root is needed to write to system partition etc.
But you can get root without a custom rom.
A locked bootloader means you will have to stay on stock rom. Means no custom kernels, no custom firmware.
Someone correct me if im wrong.
still confused
As mentioned there seem to be custom ROMs for for phones with a locked bootloader. The new Motorola Atrix is an example. While there is complaining that the bootloader is locked there are custom ROMs (2, I believe, so far) available from members of this forum. What is it that can't be done with a locked bootloader?
I'm still confused, but I appreciate the reply.
I am strongly considering getting the Verizon m8 today, but before I do there is one thing I need to clarify:
If I get this phone today is flashing a custom recovery/ROM possible?
I am asking this because before I got my current phone (Verizon S4) I checked on the forums and saw all the talk about custom recoveries and custom ROMs and got all excited and bought the phone. When I got the phone however I became aware that all of this was only possible up until some OTA update after which custom recoveries became impossible, and since I had a newest phone straight from verizon withg the latest updates I could not do any of those things.
So, can someone confirm that to the best of the publics knowledge all this is still possible? This will make or break my decision to get the phone.
Thanks
P.S. if there anything else that you think I should know, like stuff you wished someone told you before you got the phone, please dont hesitate to mention those things as well.
Yes this phone is able to be unlocked (soff) and load a custom recovery. There are two methods one is free Firewater and the other is $25 sunshine if the Free option fails to work for you for some reason.
I have an Xperia Z3 D6603 running android lollipop 5.0.2 and it says in my service menu that im not allowed to unlock my bootloader. ive heard that its posssible to change this on multiple occasions and seen phones of the exact same model and firmware as mine that have unlocked their bootloaders and rooted their phones and i would like to do the same. i have tried different methods of unlocking from both official and unoffical sources, with no success. if anyone can please tell me how i might change the status or how i can unlock my bootloader and root (yes ive heard the risks a million times, no i dont really care about losing the drm keys that allow better lowlight conditions with the camera, and my phone actually has slowed slightly since the lollipop update) it would be much appreciated and of course if any additional info is needed, i will of course provide such as quickly as i am able to. thanks in advance and all input is appreciated.
you cant unlock the bootloader then, if you want root then you will need to downgrade to kk and root the device and install a pre-rooted lp rom
Ok, here's my story so far:
The first day that I got this phone, approximately two weeks ago, I rooted my phone, softbricked it, then flashed the KDZ and rooted again (all in 9 long hours of frustration and tears). Now I'm using the phone, everything is stable, and I'm having no problems.
Anyways, at this point, unlocking my bootloader is a must. All I want is to do that so I can flash TWRP and install Xposed framework.
Does anyone know of a way to unlock the bootloader on this phone? I've been told that you really can't, but I know that someone out there knows of a way. If not, I plan on finding away to do it myself.
I would like to know know well. I originally thought that rooting it unlocked the bootloader but I was wrong lol. Learning slowly but surely. I am trying to get xposed. So having a custom recovery would make that a lot easier. I am using the Cricket Variant LG Stylo H634 Lollipop 5.1.1
iHeaRTShaRK said:
I would like to know know well. I originally thought that rooting it unlocked the bootloader but I was wrong lol. Learning slowly but surely. I am trying to get xposed. So having a custom recovery would make that a lot easier. I am using the Cricket Variant LG Stylo H634 Lollipop 5.1.1
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Well, it looks like we're running the same firmware on the same device, so maybe we can figure something out.
I think I may be able to make a custom recovery by extracting the stock recovery partition, building a custom recovery from that image, then signing it with the same signature used to sign the original image. Maybe this will work. Honestly, I'm not entirely sure, but you never know.
I'll contact a few developers to see if there's any way we can breathe life into this phone.
Sent from my LG-H634 using XDA Labs
I had an HTC 10 w/Sprint and it's getting old and full, but I liked how easy it was to unlock the bootloader. I enjoy having a rooted phone and I'm seeing that the S8+ (US Version) can be rooted, but I'm assuming there's prerequisites that used phones might/might not have to do so. So I'm just wondering if there's any questions I should ask the sellers of an S8+ on Swappa or eBay to make sure that root is possible when I decide to buy one? I don't wanna wind up w/a LS997 situation, where I got the phone but it was too upgraded that the methods to root were patched up. Thanks for any help.
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I had an HTC 10 w/Sprint and it's getting old and full, but I liked how easy it was to unlock the bootloader. I enjoy having a rooted phone and I'm seeing that the S8+ (US Version) can be rooted, but I'm assuming there's prerequisites that used phones might/might not have to do so. So I'm just wondering if there's any questions I should ask the sellers of an S8+ on Swappa or eBay to make sure that root is possible when I decide to buy one? I don't wanna wind up w/a LS997 situation, where I got the phone but it was too upgraded that the methods to root were patched up. Thanks for any help.
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No boot loader unlock. There is a method for root. It's system only root and only on nougat.
Coming from LG you've seen anti roll back we have the same. But they're is a method to downgrade the system only even on the latest boot loader to have rooted nougat https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8+/development/root-t3909782/post79500078#post79500078
Safestrap is like fish on the lg g4. once safe strap is in place you can then flash a older system image from older boot loader revisions.
Even on the latest boot loader we're have Samsung's test firmware called combination files. Which include a nougat bootloader that is a permissive kernel and allows for root.
I ran lg all the way back from g2 to g5. So I've been in your shoes too. that's pretty much how I ended up here. From a sprint g2 g4 and g5
So even if the phone is upgraded, there's a method to roll back to an environment to root an S8+? So I can basically just cop an S8 w/no worries then and not ask any prerequisite questions?. That's good to see. I appreciate the assist.
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So even if the phone is upgraded, there's a method to roll back to an environment to root an S8+? So I can basically just cop an S8 w/no worries then and not ask any prerequisite questions?. That's good to see. I appreciate the assist.
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yea pretty much the bootloader must remain the same increment but the system does not
obviously newer pie and even oreo where all bit 5 BLs but the firmware needed for root is also bit 5 but a nougat bootloader
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/development/root-t3904613
is the perquisite to rooting
this allows a type of twrp for locked bl
we can flash pretty much all but boot img and non stock based custom roms
Bl6 hasnt been released yet so as long as you get it soon your good as
since this is edl I doubt it can be patched but always a possibility