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From Which Phone to the Moto G?

Curious as to what phone you guys are currently using or coming from prior to your decision to acquire the new Moto G. Please state your last or, if you're like me and waiting delivery of your (ordered) Moto G, your current phone.
Me: Nexus 4
Why? I love the Nexus 4 for its functionality and especially for being in the forefront of the developer community. Until 4.4, it got all the updates right away. And even after that, 4.4.1 and 4.4.2 with their respective fixes were issued rather quickly by Google. The dual pane glass design is beautiful and unique, albeit potentially fragile (as some N4 owners have had the misfortune of discovering). And for me, the camera isn't nearly as bad as some have made it out to me. It's no iPhone camera to be sure, but a lot of the the grievances can certainly be chalked up to poor photo-taking techniques (eg., one-handed shots causing 'camera shake').
But for all its positives, I really wish it had better battery life. I'm forever flashing and re-flashing and configuring new kernels and, to a lesser extent, ROMs in the hopes of eeking out a bit more battery life. I regularly read some users of certain kernels getting 4, 5 or even 6 (!) hours of Screen-on-time ("SOT"). I'm lucky to get around 3 hrs of SOT. I check and try to control wakelocks. I undervolt. I turn off GPS and location reporting. I would like to leave Google Now on but dare not. I lower my max CPU to something less than what the chip is designed for. I even 'Greenify'! All to little or no avail. While the battery is enough to last me the day on 50-60% of the days, I do find myself having to curtail usage of my phone around 3-7pm just to make sure it lasts until I get home. I'm often on the road and not near an electrical outlet for a quick mid-day charge (and hate carrying an additionaal portable charger) so battery life is the paramount consideration. And because of this, I've decided I'm willing to give up some of the things I've been looking for such as 1080p (although I can't significantly tell the difference between that and a 720p screen less than 5"), maybe a larger screen (not that important), and LTE (this would be the biggest trade-off of desired features for me). If battery life were not that important, I would just pick up a Nexus 5. Battery life aside, I've been reading that most everything else about the Moto G is rather on par to the N4. Sure the camera resolution might be slightly less, the phone casing a little less elegant and the memory 1 gig smaller, but I'm not a strict adherent to specs as the only determinant of what phone I use.
And, of course, there's the PRICE in the Moto G's favor! Because it's relatively cheap, I certainly don't intend to be babying the G, when getting a replacement in the unlikely event of phone failure, isn't nearly as major a consideration as if my daily phone were an iPhone or most any other premium phones.
Experience so far with the Moto G, if any: None so far. I'm one of those who has a phone ordered from Motorola and waiting for delivery (via my home in California) out to me in Asia. In fact, I've got two on order -- one for my wife and one for myself.
That's enough of me. How about you?

I bought my daughter one for Christmas.
Because iPhone 4S.

I had a Nexus 4 which I sold a bought an iPhone 5c. While the iPhone is a fantastic phone I missed Android. So I sold the 5c , bought a Moto G and has £230 left over. The Moto G is great, probably one of the best Android phones of owned especially for the money.
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I got it to replace my LG Optimus 2X.
The LG was a fine phone but it kind of started to fall apart and it was slow and clunky in comparison to the Moto G. It just wasn't a very nice experience anymore and I wanted something new for some time now. Wiping everything and re-flashing CM regularly was pretty much the only way to keep it going at a reasonable level.
So far I'm extremely happy with the Moto G. It's pretty fast, has a lovely screen, it runs all the apps that I use extremely well and the hotspot feature works like a charm. That was another problem with the LG, it kept dropping the connection.

I had a Galaxy S2. Was broken and couldn't fix it. And then this phone came in stores. Saved me that money and bought it. Really happy with it so far.
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Galaxy SII HD LTE was my old phone. Thx to XDA it wasn't a total waste of a phone, but time to support Motorola over Samsung.
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Samsung Galaxy Nexus

HTC One XL... broke the screen one morning, the Moto G had just been released.
Battery life is WAY better, it is faster and it fits better in my hand....
Should have gotten the 16gb version though =P

From moto Defy+ running Gingerbread, it really was time to get something newer...

Nexus S.

HTC Amaze 4G
Absolutely love the camera on this baby.
Time to get closer to Kitkat once HTC decided to shove this baby down the gutter. Had high hopes didn't even get Jellybean :crying:

T-mobile Samsung galaxy S2
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Nexus 5. Seriously...

S4, still have it. The idea was to use this as a second phone but after a few days of using it I'm not sure I'll use my s4 again. That's not to say its a better phone, it's not. But its not as far off as the price would suggest. It does everything I need just as well, the biggest thing I miss is faster downloads. Great phone, a mini nexus and you'd be hard pressed to see any difference in performance between this and a nexus 4.
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LG p880
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Nexus 5. Plan to spend the money I saved on a tablet.
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HTC vivid
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LG P920 (Optimus 3D).

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Nexus S.

[Q] İs it worth to buy Nexus 5 ?

Hello,nowadays I am planning to buy new phone,and Nexus 5 is in my options.According to you is it worth to buy it now ?.Nexus 5 is nearly 2 years old,and I am planning to use my new phone at least 3-4 years.Performance and battery are priority.

Well worth buying - even today it has great spec for very affordable price. Fantastic screen, great battery and most importantly - pure Android 5.1 which comes with huge community.

rbs_uk said:
Well worth buying - even today it has great spec for very affordable price. Fantastic screen, great battery and most importantly - pure Android 5.1 which comes with huge community.
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Totally agree with this. I was thinking about swapping mine but in terms of spec and upgrades there is nothing else - well the Nexus 6 but that is just way too big.

rbs_uk said:
Well worth buying - even today it has great spec for very affordable price. Fantastic screen, great battery and most importantly - pure Android 5.1 which comes with huge community.
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The only thing that everybody complain about Nexus 5 is battery,and you said that great battery.How can you get great battery performance ?

artilherio said:
The only thing that everybody complain about Nexus 5 is battery,and you said that great battery.How can you get great battery performance ?
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Show me those everybody ?! Because I have removed over 200mg of unwanted apps/gapps, I`m on 5.1

just get it! N5 is a great phone. :good:

The battery is Underpowered, other than that, a good device. Just don't pay full retail, I would pay full retail in Nov '13 but not in April' 15

I've got one and I'm looking for another as a spare, as others say it's a great phone. Mine outscored the S5 on antutu) The only phone I'd change it for is the rumoured Nexus 5B.
The battery is not grt which is why I replaced it. They all loose about 20%a year. As someone else said get rid of unless apps and it is OK. I'm on # lite rom# which comes with about 4apps)
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artilherio said:
The only thing that everybody complain about Nexus 5 is battery,and you said that great battery.How can you get great battery performance ?
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Try some LSD and there will be no battery issues! And the Nexus5 will blow your mind!

Yeah the battery is bad compared to the flagships (and even some similarly priced phones lol) but a solid device that definitely offers bang for the buck performance.

Out of the box, its a fantastic phone but let down by the battery. If you are comfortable with rooting and replacing kernels etc, this can be addressed.
On the other hand, look at the LG G2. The battery if fantastic without any modding and most of the bloat, even a noob like me can disable. Speed wise, I'd say its 20% slower than the Nexus 5.
If just comes down to how dirty you want your hands to get.
To give you a comparison, I've had both running the same apps and this is what I got battery wise for my typical usage, (my signal is also very poor.)
- Nexus 5, Standby time=40h, Screen on time=2:30h
- LG G2, Standby time=80h, Screen on time=2:30h
Just remember that everyones usage and signal strengths are very different.

Masteryates said:
Out of the box, its a fantastic phone but let down by the battery. If you are comfortable with rooting and replacing kernels etc, this can be addressed.
On the other hand, look at the LG G2. The battery if fantastic without any modding and most of the bloat, even a noob like me can disable. Speed wise, I'd say its 20% slower than the Nexus 5.
If just comes down to how dirty you want your hands to get.
To give you a comparison, I've had both running the same apps and this is what I got battery wise for my typical usage, (my signal is also very poor.)
- Nexus 5, Standby time=40h, Screen on time=2:30h
- LG G2, Standby time=80h, Screen on time=2:30h
Just remember that everyones usage and signal strengths are very different.
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G2 has the same SoT as n5, rma it wth...

Great performance but poor battery not future proof if you want to use it for 3-4 years
desire 820 is a good option

I think 2300 mah is sufficient under normal circumstances.Galaxy Alpha has 1800 mah but I didnt hear any problem about battery or s6 has 2550 mah which is nearly as same as N5.Then, why N5 battery is insufficient compared to other phones also using stock android ?

artilherio said:
I think 2300 mah is sufficient under normal circumstances.Galaxy Alpha has 1800 mah but I didnt hear any problem about battery or s6 has 2550 mah which is nearly as same as N5.Then, why N5 battery is insufficient compared to other phones also using stock android ?
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Are they calibrated the same? Same chipsets and screen resolutions etc?

dicecuber said:
G2 has the same SoT as n5, rma it wth...
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Yes, the G2 has the same SOT as the N5 in my experiment. However, the standby time was DOUBLE.
In my days of the N5, I couldnt trust it to wake me up in the morning if the battery was below 30% at bed time, (as sometimes my signal is really bad in my flat.) On the G2 however, it can be as low as 15% and has yet to let me down. :angel:
If I had to pick between the G2 and N5 to last me the next 2 years, it would be a tough decision but I'd go with the G2. I dont think either of these phones would be good for 4 years though. :crying:

Nexus 5 is a great purchase. The only thing it seems to not be future proof against are high intensity games and higher resolution streaming options that may come our way. As a daily phone, I can't imagine needing much more power than what it's got.
In fact, I purchased a N5 back in November 2013. It started failing two months ago (this was a first-run version with the old ceramic buttons prone to breakage). I upgraded to an LG G3 - the G3 is a gorgeous phone, but I kept wanting my old Nexus 5 back. After a week I bought a new N5 on amazon and returned the G3. I have no regrets.
If anything can be a perfect phone for power users, this is it.

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Yes leaves the G3 standing

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Yes leaves the G3 standing
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Yes, that is very accurate...

Buy it: great specs at low price

get s6 over g3?

Hello i would loke to know if the jump from g3 to s6 worth it. Ive seen how s6 looks in the store but wasnt impressed. Maybe didnt gave it the time it needs. So what you guys suggest shall i make the jump?

Derpling said:
Hello i would loke to know if the jump from g3 to s6 worth it. Ive seen how s6 looks in the store but wasnt impressed. Maybe didnt gave it the time it needs. So what you guys suggest shall i make the jump?
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If you mean the LG G3 then I would say it's a no brainer, what didn't you like about it?

daleski75 said:
If you mean the LG G3 then I would say it's a no brainer, what didn't you like about it?
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It's a bit laggy, the govener is bugged accross all roms, though it can be kinda fixed. game performance are not great at all times, i 've seen the S6 is much faster and have better cam.
But idk about displays or battery life, is battery life good?

Derpling said:
It's a bit laggy, the govener is bugged accross all roms, though it can be kinda fixed. game performance are not great at all times, i 've seen the S6 is much faster and have better cam.
But idk about displays or battery life, is battery life good?
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The display is the best on the market and way better than the G3 (I had a G3 for a short period of time) and since disabling google now (never really used it) I am getting 5 hours SOT with 24 hours battery and around 36 hours on battery with 3 to 4 hours SOT.

So u would recommend me s6 over g3 and i wouldnt regrat it?

Derpling said:
So u would recommend me s6 over g3 and i wouldnt regrat it?
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I had the G3 since last July and switched to the S6. I'm getting slightly better battery life than the G3, which is great because the battery is smaller on the S6. Fast charging is also really nice to have. While the G3 took over 2 hours to charge from 0 to full, the S6 takes less than 1.5 hours.
The phone is also a bit easier to handle as it's smaller. I haven't missed the extra screen real estates on the G3. I thought I would miss Knock On, but using the home button/fingerprint scanner has been so easy, I actually prefer it over to Knock On.
The screen on the S6 looks a lot better to me than the G3. I can't really delve into anything technical, but when I look at the S6 screen, it just LOOKS a lot better.
I experienced some slight lag on the G3 - not too much - but I experience even less on the S6. There were some things when performed on the G3 that would persistently result in lag - such as changing the wallpaper (I always used very high res images). On the G3, on Nova Launcher, it would take a good 2 or so seconds between hitting OK and the wallpaper being applied. On the S6, it is instant.
I didn't mind the plastic build of the G3 at all, but the S6 does definitely feel more premium (for what it's worth it to you). The one thing I don't get is those people who are very particular about their phone build but then end up getting a case, basically making whatever the phone is made out of a moot point anyway.
Another feature I thought I might miss was the speaker. While it is louder than the S6, the S6 sounds much better - fuller sound with bass and not so tinny and still loud enough for why I need it (I listen to music while I shower).
If there are any other points you'd like me to address, let me know!

I played with gs6 in local shop two hours and was impressed by speed but that is all. I prefer g3 over it in all ways probably camera is better on s6 but idk. I think ill stick to g3

If you're not sure, i'd stick with what you have. The screens on the S6 at the moment are no where near as good as reviews make out.

That what i was saying good to know im not the only one. Ill stick with g3 it still has a lot life left in it.

I came from the G3 to the S6,and I am happy with the decision. The G3, while a good phone in general, seemed a bit laggy to me (among other things)...this includes after using several launchers, including my "go to" Nova. After being with the S6 for a while, I am definately more pleased with it and glad I made the decision.
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Is the Sony Xperia Z3 worth it in 2016?

I'm about to purchase this coming from an LG g3. The lg g3 had a fair amount of roms but the battery was lacking . How does the Z3 hold up after this years and is it a good phone to purchase for rooting, custom romming, etc ?
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I Just bought it recently.my friend does have a g3 and we compared it extensively.
first g3 has much less bezels so keep that in mind.having a bigger screen while being the same size.
second screen is so better on z3 .specially colors.g3 display is washed out.
third is skin.sony skin is so much better,
battery life is also better on z3.

ayo234 said:
I'm about to purchase this coming from an LG g3. The lg g3 had a fair amount of roms but the battery was lacking . How does the Z3 hold up after this years and is it a good phone to purchase for rooting, custom romming, etc ?
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It stands up great. I had the LG G3 before Z3 also. I disliked the colors of G3, and mainly the battery life was a drawback. But I'm really happy that I bought Z3. The battery life compared to g3 is day and night compared to Z3. Atleast when my G3 was on lollipop, it had a terrible battery life. It was a really great phone to use but I rely on batterylife heavily.
I have the z3 for like 6 months or so, and I'm really satisfied with it. it doesn't lag, the battery holds up really great, even with the 6.0.1 system on board. So, you get a lot for the money it costs now. Compared to new phones.

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It stands up great. I had the LG G3 before Z3 also. I disliked the colors of G3, and mainly the battery life was a drawback. But I'm really happy that I bought Z3. The battery life compared to g3 is day and night compared to Z3. Atleast when my G3 was on lollipop, it had a terrible battery life. It was a really great phone to use but I rely on batterylife heavily.
I have the z3 for like 6 months or so, and I'm really satisfied with it. it doesn't lag, the battery holds up really great, even with the 6.0.1 system on board. So, you get a lot for the money it costs now. Compared to new phones.
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Thanks what about the custom roms and other stuff? Ive heard the d6616 doesnt have a unlocked bootloader? Are there still roms for this device?

ayo234 said:
Thanks what about the custom roms and other stuff? Ive heard the d6616 doesnt have a unlocked bootloader? Are there still roms for this device?
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To be honest, I never ever really felt the need to flash a custom ROM. The daily driver(stock rom) runs so fluidly, that I even can't find a problem with it. It has never hung for me, neither lagged. Storage is plenty enough. I've tried concept software, that was a great experience also. You should try that one out, maybe you will like it.

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To be honest, I never ever really felt the need to flash a custom ROM. The daily driver(stock rom) runs so fluidly, that I even can't find a problem with it. It has never hung for me, neither lagged. Storage is plenty enough. I've tried concept software, that was a great experience also. You should try that one out, maybe you will like it.
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Can I still root?

ayo234 said:
Can I still root?
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Yes, ofcourse. There are threads here, how to get root statuss on concept software too. You just have to find it. :fingers-crossed::good:

S8 Battery Life

The only thing stopping me getting the S8 is potential poor battery life. Since it's the same size as the S7 Edge I would have expected it to have similar battery performance, but looking at the projections it seems the S8 doesn't hold a candle.
The S8+ is too big for me so not an option.

I think they should be on par, around the same SOT. The regular S8 is the new S7 and the S8+ is the new Edge when you think about it. So you should compare the S7 with the S8. Time will tell.

That was my worry too but I asked at the new york event and they told me the system has been optimized for it and does not huge a lot of battery as before. the lady had it for a week before the presentation and told me she saw the difference, let's see now...

Came across this online which might give some idea on how battery will perform. Of course some people will have lower or higher SOT. But if you ask me that's 5+ SOT is not bad at all.

Xshooter726 said:
Came across this online which might give some idea on how battery will perform. Of course some people will have lower or higher SOT. But if you ask me that's 5+ SOT is not bad at all.
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That's about on par with the S7 then. Pretty much the expected SOT for normal usage with Samsung phones. It's the average these days and it's good enough. They have a less power hungry SoC but a bigger brighter screen so it evens things out. Good to know, thanks.

I think since Samsung put such a big battery in the S7 Edge, people are expecting them to do even better every year. I certainly am. If you think about it, the S8+ has a 6.2" display - that's massive compared to the 5.5" display of the S7 Edge. Yet they've put a smaller battery in. I know they say the cpu gets more efficient every year but I can't see it making that much of a difference to offset the smaller battery compared to the bigger display.
I'm yet to be proven wrong though. I must say I'm still very happy with my S7 Edge and although I'm itching to get the S8, I might just hang on for the time being.

Idk what but I am getting frustrated by this SOT, I find this battery performance unacceptable by today's standards. I hope company would focus less in gimmicks and more on battery optimization, technologies.

Really hoping for S8+ battery life being good.

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I think since Samsung put such a big battery in the S7 Edge, people are expecting them to do even better every year. I certainly am. If you think about it, the S8+ has a 6.2" display - that's massive compared to the 5.5" display of the S7 Edge. Yet they've put a smaller battery in. I know they say the cpu gets more efficient every year but I can't see it making that much of a difference to offset the smaller battery compared to the bigger display.
I'm yet to be proven wrong though. I must say I'm still very happy with my S7 Edge and although I'm itching to get the S8, I might just hang on for the time being.
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It is frustrating, the battery often gets overlooked. Although the images and previews I have seen so far suggest the battery life is pretty much the same, it was never that great to begin with. It is the average for high end phones. Instead of the ongoing trend to have super slim devices, I would much prefer a little more thickness to host a larger capacity battery.
It has apparently improved in one big way though, Samsung say it will hold charge better over time. 5% diminished in a year rather than the 20-30% in previous batteries.

Coming from the LG V20, I'm sure I won't be disappointed with the S8+'s battery life.

Slash8915 said:
Coming from the LG V20, I'm sure I won't be disappointed with the S8+'s battery life.
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It will be alright, more is always better though. Especially for things like VR, movies and games. I'll be happy enough and at least it charges quickly.

Considering my S6 has kinda crappy battery life, virtually anything else will be an upgrade from that, haha. But, I do hope the battery life is actually good, despite the larger screen and same size battery as last year's S7.

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Coming from the LG V20, I'm sure I won't be disappointed with the S8+'s battery life.
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Same here. The V20 stand-by life is excellent. But the onscreen life is subpar.

Im pretty disappoinited as well especially after my s7e got updated to N. I only want the s8 as it compares to my s7e which i find to be the perfect size. Smaller battery with bigger screen. Thats what they did with the s6e and the battery was sht
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Instead of the ongoing trend to have super slim devices, I would much prefer a little more thickness to host a larger capacity battery.
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I completely agree.
I really don't understand this desperate need for thinner phones. I find that the thinner they are, the less comfortable they are to hold and use. When I go back and hold an older phone that is significantly thicker, it actually feels better in the hand, not worse. Easier to grip and manipulate with one hand and I feel like I am less likely to accidentally drop it.
The only dimension that needs to remain small enough is the side-to-side width. They've done a great job with that on the S8/S8+. Now if they would make the phone 2-3mm thicker and the same width, I wager that it would not only be more comfortable to hold, but it would probably accommodate 4500mAh or more for battery size.

The problem is they seem to think that since the New 10nm is more efficient sticking the same or lesser battery capacity will yield a similar battery life. They dont let the users benefit from hving lower battery consumption chips
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The problem is they seem to think that since the New 10nm is more efficient sticking the same or lesser battery capacity will yield a similar battery life. They dont let the users benefit from hving lower battery consumption chips
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Well, they are not stupid. They make their statistics assessment to figure out what is more attractive, the screen or more battery. Looks like many people prefer "fancy" screen.

If I remember correctly the fiery Note 7 had the same size battery as the S7 edge or it might have been 100mah less and it had better sot than the S7 edge
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I'm hoping it will match or surpass my iPhone 6s+ which has been excellent but like having handcuffs on for 1.5 years now..

Saw a video that showed a predicted battery life time of 45 hours without power saving on. If true that means i can finally do a day without charging my phone when my S8 arrives.