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Noob question sorry, is nexus s plain android or is there bloatware installed?

About to buy one and I just wanna know
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Pure vanilla Android.

There's a bunch of stuff preinstalled on it, but it's all Google stuff; I don't think there's any third-party apps.

It's not plain android, there's a bunch of Google bloatware.

JCopernicus said:
It's not plain android, there's a bunch of Google bloatware.
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I'm curious as to what you consider Google bloatware, because the Nexus S is about as plain as you can get. Most of the time bloatware is stuff added by OEMs, such as the preinstalled demo games on the MT4G. Mind elaborating?

I can't speak for JC, but in my mind, anything that comes preinstalled on a device which I neither want nor need is bloatware. This, of course, makes the entire concept subjective, but in general with things like Android, I think less is more, since you can download nearly all of these things from the Market anyway. The consumer-side justification of "bloatware" (revenue for the provider, of course, being the primary, producer-side justification) is to present the user with access to a service they might otherwise not know to look for. ("Oh, hey, my phone can play TV/can display YouTube/has internet radio/whatever!"). For most of us though, particularly anyone savvy enough to be on XDA in the first place, most of it ends up falling into one of three categories:
-Don't care about
-Use a different app for
-Would have downloaded if it wasn't included.
In any case, I've observed that what most people have the biggest issue with isn't that stuff may come preinstalled on their phone, it's that you can't get rid of it, and if you do, you may well open yourself to a world of trouble should you ever wish to install an OTA update.

I would consider it plain android, as the "bloatware" on it is really only google apps, which come with all android phones. It doesn't have bloatware from a third party though like some of the other android phones. Either way, bloatware can be removed off any rooted phone with titanium backup

zorak950 said:
I can't speak for JC, but in my mind, anything that comes preinstalled on a device which I neither want nor need is bloatware. This, of course, makes the entire concept subjective, but in general with things like Android, I think less is more, since you can download nearly all of these things from the Market anyway. The consumer-side justification of "bloatware" (revenue for the provider, of course, being the primary, producer-side justification) is to present the user with access to a service they might otherwise not know to look for. ("Oh, hey, my phone can play TV/can display YouTube/has internet radio/whatever!"). For most of us though, particularly anyone savvy enough to be on XDA in the first place, most of it ends up falling into one of three categories:
-Don't care about
-Use a different app for
-Would have downloaded if it wasn't included.
In any case, I've observed that what most people have the biggest issue with isn't that stuff may come preinstalled on their phone, it's that you can't get rid of it, and if you do, you may well open yourself to a world of trouble should you ever wish to install an OTA update.
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Fair enough points.
Unfortunately, we still run into that last issue even on the Nexus S. Folks were unable to update via the stock 2.3.1 OTA if they had modified system files, such replacing the stock Mms.apk or Gmail.apk with the black/custom ones from the Themes & Apps section or deleting any of their relevant .odexs. Even placing the missing files back on the system partition didn't seem to work, at least for me. It was a very curious update.

unremarked said:
Fair enough points.
Unfortunately, we still run into that last issue even on the Nexus S. Folks were unable to update via the stock 2.3.1 OTA if they had modified system files, such replacing the stock Mms.apk or Gmail.apk with the black/custom ones from the Themes & Apps section or deleting any of their relevant .odexs. Even placing the missing files back on the system partition didn't seem to work, at least for me. It was a very curious update.
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Yeah, I soft-bricked my Vibrant trying to grab T-Mobile's OTA after I took it upon myself to delete all the extraneous crapware that came with it. They can be very touchy indeed. It's a steep learning curve for newbies. x_x

Next question,how is t mobiles 4G .I live in knox tn. Anyone know?
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So it doesn't have the useless Amazon mp3 app anymore like the nexus one?

evilsock said:
Next question,how is t mobiles 4G .I live in knox tn. Anyone know?
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No HSPA+ (it's not 4G!) on the Nexus S. Don't ask me why, it boggles my mind too.
NexusDro said:
So it doesn't have the useless Amazon mp3 app anymore like the nexus one?
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No Amazon MP3 app installed. Just made me look at my app drawer to confirm, lol.

NexusDro said:
So it doesn't have the useless Amazon mp3 app anymore like the nexus one?
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Nope, they put google earth in its place.

There is also that office app that is NOT a google product...so yea, there is a bit of bloat, but pretty much it is vanilla.

ZeroSX said:
No HSPA+ (it's not 4G!) on the Nexus S. Don't ask me why, it boggles my mind too.
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True, but it does still support up to 7.2Mbps down which you'll only get in a t-mobile 4g area.
I was just in Orlando and i was getting around 5-6Mbps on my N1 and in a Nexus S i was testing at best buy and it was pretty damn fast. puts my DSL connection at home to shame.

mcosmi said:
There is also that office app that is NOT a google product...so yea, there is a bit of bloat, but pretty much it is vanilla.
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I don't think Google has an office app for Android. Every device has launched with some kind of partnered 3rd party, either ThinkFree, or Quickoffice. At least, I think those are the two they've used.
If they didn't, you wouldn't be able to read any kind of text document on your phone and that's just kind of a silly thing to not be able to do, imo.
EDIT: And on that note, Google should probably make a office app! lol

Who really cares whats installed or not, EVERYTHING can be uninstalled.

after using ThinkFREE for a while on the Galaxy S, i can say it's really good
way better than the Docs To Go and/or QuickOffice which i'm using on the XT720
but truth is... you don't need any of those with Google Office online, it's so much easier to keep things and work with documents using Google Office Online

Crapware on the Nexus S?

Apparently ThinkFree Office is pre-installed on the Nexus S.
I just found /system/app/Thinkfree.apk 5.04MB
But I can't access it.
OH MY GOD, CRAPWARE!
I'll never, ever buy another ... nah, just kidding. I don't have a problem with it, but it's a bit surprising.
http://www.pr-inside.com/hancom-s-thinkfree-mobile-viewer-is-r2327416.htm

Its there so you can view documents. I wouldn't call it crapware.

schizopunk said:
Its there so you can view documents. I wouldn't call it crapware.
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How do I view documents with it? I can't run it, it's not in the app list.
And it's definitely not a part of Pure Google.

shrivelfig said:
How do I view documents with it? I can't run it, it's not in the app list.
And it's definitely not a part of Pure Google.
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...open a .doc file from a website on your phone.....

slowz3r said:
...open a .doc file from a website on your phone.....
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Huh. Wouldja lookit that. It's alive!
Nope. I don't want it. I'm not saying it is useless, but if I ever wanted to do stuff like that, I'd very much prefer Documents To Go, which I've known and used since it came bundled with my Palm Tungsten T3. ThinkFree? Never heard of it before I found it on my phone.
I'm still leaning towards the crapware label. It's not from Google, it's not part of standard Android, it's non-removable (unless rooted), it has limited functionality but it can be upgraded for a fee. Yes, that does sound familiar.

shrivelfig said:
Huh. Wouldja lookit that. It's alive!
Nope. I don't want it. I'm not saying it is useless, but if I ever wanted to do stuff like that, I'd very much prefer Documents To Go, which I've known and used since it came bundled with my Palm Tungsten T3. ThinkFree? Never heard of it before I found it on my phone.
I'm still leaning towards the crapware label. It's not from Google, it's not part of standard Android, it's non-removable (unless rooted), it has limited functionality but it can be upgraded for a fee. Yes, that does sound familiar.
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android 2.2 2.1 1.5 and 1.6 all had software like that as well

slowz3r said:
android 2.2 2.1 1.5 and 1.6 all had software like that as well
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On the Nexus One?

lulz. n00bs. It's not crapware. All Androids had some sort of office file readers.
HTC Androids (including Nexus One) had QuickOffice. Samsung Androids (Including Nexus S) uses ThinkFree. Both are free versions and there are full paid versions on the Market.
It's inside the /system/app/ like mentioned. So it does NOT use user available install space.

shrivelfig said:
On the Nexus One?
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ya on the N1 it had a different office app, not necessarily to create docs but to read,
...if it didnt have anything like that people would just complain

This thread is nonsense, just turn on any non nexus phone and you will see what crapware is.

slowz3r said:
...if it didnt have anything like that people would just complain
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Good point. I'm just a bit surprised, that's all. ThinkFree Office was put there by Samsung, and I thought everything to do with software was going to be Google, and Google only.
falconeight said:
This thread is nonsense, just turn on any non nexus phone and you will see what crapware is.
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I just turned on my I5700 Spica. Let's see. There's Layar, and MySpace, Facebook, and of course TouchWiz. Anything particular I should be looking for? The phone was bought discounted and on-contract.

shrivelfig said:
I just turned on my I5700 Spica. Let's see. There's Layar, and MySpace, Facebook, and of course TouchWiz. Anything particular I should be looking for? The phone was bought discounted and on-contract.
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Yep thats all crapware especially touchwiz. Thats why people buy the nexus s. If you like it cool go to a touchwiz forum and have fun.

Aside from TouchWiz, you can't really call the rest crapwear when the Nexus comes with Facebook, Goggles, Twitter, etc

Rusty! said:
Aside from TouchWiz, you can't really call the rest crapwear when the Nexus comes with Facebook, Goggles, Twitter, etc
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My SNS didn't come with Facebook or Twitter. Goggles is a Google app...
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Ah I just assumed it did as Google built them into the N1. Googles might well be a Google app, but that doesn't mean everyone wants it

falconeight said:
Yep thats all crapware especially touchwiz.
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So, Layar, MySpace, Facebook, and TouchWiz is crapware. Got it.
How is ThinkFree Office not crapware, then? Please explain. Because I want to know why this thread is nonsense.
Thats why people buy the nexus s. If you like it cool go to a touchwiz forum and have fun.
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What makes you think that I like TouchWiz? I bought the Nexus S to get away from crapware. Which is why I was surprised to find non-Google software on it.

shrivelfig said:
So, Layar, MySpace, Facebook, and TouchWiz is crapware. Got it.
How is ThinkFree Office not crapware, then? Please explain. Because I want to know why this thread is nonsense.
What makes you think that I like TouchWiz? I bought the Nexus S to get away from crapware. Which is why I was surprised to find non-Google software on it.
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BECAUSE it's an office file reader that's built in.
Again, GOOGLE on the HTC NEXUS ONE (a PURE google device) includes QUICKOFFICE.
It's the SAME as THINKFREE.
If you don't like it, go return it.

Rusty! said:
Aside from TouchWiz, you can't really call the rest crapwear when the Nexus comes with Facebook, Goggles, Twitter, etc
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call me crazy but I don't think touchwiz is crap. Samsung actually did some cool things with it. I like how the notification panel has a power control widget integrated into it. Also the built in codec support is nice as well.
This is based on playing with touchwiz 3.0 for like five minutes lol.

pretty much anything that you didnt download and isnt included in vanilla android is crapware.

what's all the fuss about such a nice app?
if you don't like it, just uninstall it with Titanium Backup
it's so easy

[Q] Is there a reason to Root a Xoom?

Have my Xoom WiFi pre-ordered and delivery is supposed to be next week. I am coming from a Viewsonic G-Tablet (will still have two of them, just I won't be using) where the ONLY way to make use of them is by rooting and installing a third-party ROM.
With the Xoom, it seems like rooting it is more of an intellectual exercise than something that would make a big difference in day to day use. Is there something I'm missing?

EwanG said:
Have my Xoom WiFi pre-ordered and delivery is supposed to be next week. I am coming from a Viewsonic G-Tablet (will still have two of them, just I won't be using) where the ONLY way to make use of them is by rooting and installing a third-party ROM.
With the Xoom, it seems like rooting it is more of an intellectual exercise than something that would make a big difference in day to day use. Is there something I'm missing?
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1) Delete the crap you don't want
2) Overclock
3) Titanium backup
4) Usb Hosting
5) One day custom roms

bwcorvus said:
1) Delete the crap you don't want
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Anything in particular you are thinking of?
2) Overclock
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Unless that helps video playback, I doubt I want to run my battery down or possibly overheat the tablet.
3) Titanium backup
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I use that on my G-Tablet because I can't be sure the market will be stable from one refresh to the next. But is there a real need for it on the Xoom?
4) Usb Hosting
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Nothing that ES File Manager and a Network drive won't take care of, but point taken
5) One day custom roms
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Given Google's announcement about the HC stuff not being released anytime soon, I wouldn't be holding my breath on that.
So basically, the same reasons I might want to do it on my Nexus One. But it's not like the G-Tablet where I'm going to go from hardly acceptable to Notebook replacement is what I'm hearing.

True...as far as deleting apps I delete a ton. The browser, the games, and quick office is just a few. I backup my evo files and bring them over to the xoom (like games).
Sent From My Evo

bwcorvus said:
True...as far as deleting apps I delete a ton. The browser, the games, and quick office is just a few. I backup my evo files and bring them over to the xoom (like games).
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woa! you deleted the browser? i use opera mostly, but i would sooo not be comfortable doing that. just raised an eyebrow, i'm sure you have your reasons, just never heard of someone doing that. and i've been using/tweaking android for years now.

diaa08 said:
woa! you deleted the browser? i use opera mostly, but i would sooo not be comfortable doing that. just raised an eyebrow, i'm sure you have your reasons, just never heard of someone doing that. and i've been using/tweaking android for years now.
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I use dolphin so i delete it from all my devices Don't need programs that i don't use taking up space i need.

I don't recommend deleting the stock browser, and here is why;
I have a rooted Droid running UD 7.0. It's set up with Sweeter Home, etc,just the way I like it.
When Google Gesture Search came out, I spent days trying to figure out why I couldn't get it to work. I found out by trial & error (and a LOT of restoring ROMs!) that it was because I had deleted the stock browser in favor of Dolphin.
-Prob'ly nuttin, but because of all the unknowns, I expect I'll keep the stock basics until I can do a systematic, controlled delete. Just my 2 sense, err, cents.

bwcorvus said:
I use dolphin so i delete it from all my devices Don't need programs that i don't use taking up space i need.
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dude, on the xoom, how much space do you need? the browser is what 8meg, max? i use other browsers too, just would never delete the stock browser, to each their own.

diaa08 said:
dude, on the xoom, how much space do you need? the browser is what 8meg, max? i use other browsers too, just would never delete the stock browser, to each their own.
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I NEED IT ALL
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bwcorvus said:
I NEED IT ALL
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Agreed.
Not to mention its worth it for the overclock alone. I have not noticed a change in battery life, and in terms of heat the dual core runs around 90 tops under heavy use.

These threads are useless, this Guy has a rooted device and knows what functions root already does. Why is he asking us what we will do with it when he already knows. Someone says removed crapware, then he gives an argument. Someone says overclock or custom then he gives another argument. C'mon man you already know what root brings, just determine if you need it or not because everyone's needs and wants are different.
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p-slim said:
These threads are useless, this Guy has a rooted device and knows what functions root already does. Why is he asking us what we will do with it when he already knows. Someone says removed crapware, then he gives an argument. Someone says overclock or custom then he gives another argument. C'mon man you already know what root brings, just determine if you need it or not because everyone's needs and wants are different.
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Just to clarify, I have a couple of rooted Viewsonic G-Tablets. I haven't rooted my Xoom yet because:
A) I haven't got it yet (3/29 according to UPS)
B) It looks like it's a more complicated procedure at this point since there isn't native SD Card support
So I was trying to decide whether rooting was necessary (which it very much is on the G-Tablets), or just something desirable. And in the latter case, if there's something that would let me do that I would really miss.
At this point it sounds like there are three things I give up by not rooting, and the only one of those I don't have an acceptable workaround for is the overclocking. But I didn't want to hijack my own thread by starting a discussion on that, and so have been following the thread about OC instead.
FWIW...

Only reason I rooted my xoom was for the ability to play movies stutter free directly from my net shares...other than that no other reason...doesn't need to be overclocked and not really in to the custom rom game.
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myv6mustang said:
Only reason I rooted my xoom was for the ability to play movies stutter free directly from my net shares...other than that no other reason...doesn't need to be overclocked and not really in to the custom rom game.
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What player are you using? I assume you needed the CIFS support for this?

yes Cifs from the market. Using rockplayer until vplayer releases support for the Xoom.

I had a Viewsonic on Saturday (returning it monday) and i tried all the custom roms, but the main issue is the terrible display, i found not only do you need hold it in front of you, it still wasnt perfect until you held it on a weird angle. Even for 339.00 it's not worth it. I liked the USB port on it but it's ready to go back to the store tommorow. The Xoom screen is much much better (I had them both next to each other all day trying to justify). Heck, i might bring both back and just keep my Nook Color.. Time will tell... Battery life with the Tiamat kernal was about 9 hours but i started it at 72%.
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Just to clarify, I have a couple of rooted Viewsonic G-Tablets. I haven't rooted my Xoom yet because:
A) I haven't got it yet (3/29 according to UPS)
B) It looks like it's a more complicated procedure at this point since there isn't native SD Card support
So I was trying to decide whether rooting was necessary (which it very much is on the G-Tablets), or just something desirable. And in the latter case, if there's something that would let me do that I would really miss.
At this point it sounds like there are three things I give up by not rooting, and the only one of those I don't have an acceptable workaround for is the overclocking. But I didn't want to hijack my own thread by starting a discussion on that, and so have been following the thread about OC instead.
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I am having the same thoughts myself.
I jailbroke all my iphones, I've rooted all my android devices, but, for some reason, I am not anxious to root the xoom
I think once sd card support comes, and, when there are MORE rom/kernel choices, it might be more desirable to do it.
for trouble free viewing of hd videos, just rip with handbrake, or a similar program and watch them with Vital player..

bwcorvus said:
I use dolphin so i delete it from all my devices Don't need programs that i don't use taking up space i need.
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U do know that is system space and you cant access it, right? thats not good and can cause the system to become unstable. Its space you will never see or be able to use so leave it. Get an app that hides apps from your tray and your problem solved ina safe manner..but hey, to each his own.

wase4711 said:
I am having the same thoughts myself.
I jailbroke all my iphones, I've rooted all my android devices, but, for some reason, I am not anxious to root the xoom
I think once sd card support comes, and, when there are MORE rom/kernel choices, it might be more desirable to do it.
for trouble free viewing of hd videos, just rip with handbrake, or a similar program and watch them with Vital player..
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I couldnt agree more. I use handbrake for ripping also and I also don't see any current use in rooting a Xoom. Movies play crystal clear..Battery life is 9hours..
I just think some people are never satisfied..lol..like we're spoiled brats.
Im interested in the process but people are tweaking and reaching like this beast of a tablet isnt dual core and on the lastest version of android.
This is a Xoom and not a G1..lol...Not yelling..just made a point that we are never content until we brake some ****.
Google doesnt want the OEM using and skinning their **** anymore..atleast without that licensing/kiss our Google,rich ass Fee..so they probably wont release Honeycomb until 2012 I hear anyway.
So in theory u guys are holding your breath for a Dragons fart.

Ad blocking.

For everyone using a system/etc/hosts file to block ads

ok so you know when you block ads and you get that annoying green android guy and all that text crap? while i was looking around i found a framework-res.apk that removes the text and only shows the green guy. it works in apps too. but im afraid to flash it because idk what it will do to my phone. because it was for a whole different phone. if somebody could look at the framework-res.apk and tell me the code used that would be great. could help me and others. thankyou.
Where i found it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=725633

Assuming you're rooted why not install Adfree and be done with it?

AnyMal said:
Assuming you're rooted why not install Adfree and be done with it?
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not everyone has market access
(willfully not "opted" to use gmail)

why are you using an android phone if you refuse to use gmail, that doesn't make sense

docodine said:
why are you using an android phone if you refuse to use gmail, that doesn't make sense
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I will ask the same question too...

isnt not using Gmail like a sin or something by those lines???
how do get apps?
i am intrigued on this. using a Android phone with out using a google account.... hmmm

ha, is this for real... hilarious. you could just make a random gmail account that you never access, so that you can use the android market.
but really, you don't even need the market to install adfree. just google it.
or do you not use google either... in that case, yahoo! it.

mfpearson said:
but really, you don't even need the market to install adfree. just google it.
or do you not use google either... in that case, yahoo! it.
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#win
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docodine said:
why are you using an android phone if you refuse to use gmail, that doesn't make sense
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Since buying an android, Google decided to reinvent itself as an Identity Service, and some people might not be too keen on the bait-and-switch. Android != Google.

Trebuchette said:
Since buying an android, Google decided to reinvent itself as an Identity Service, and some people might not be too keen on the bait-and-switch. Android != Google.
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Google's motives for all of these supposedly free services is very suspect.
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are there really 56 preinstalled apps?

http://iphone.appleinsider.com/arti...talled-including-instagram-microsoft-onedrive
im hoping theyre trolling

Just read that also. And you can hide them in the app drawer but can't uninstall them as previously thought

The S6 in the "hands on" thread, which the OP said is an international model, has 50 apps.

50 non deletable apps?
i was trying to get a less laggy samsung phone with the s6, im not sure now

Of course there are, just like there are 50 preinstalled apps on Windows - Notepad, Internet Explorer, WMP, Windows Defender, etc.
Android has components, that people who want to strike Android will count as preinstalled - Media Library, Music Player, Play Store; do I need to continue to make it any more clear?

Szadzik said:
Of course there are, just like there are 50 preinstalled apps on Windows - Notepad, Internet Explorer, WMP, Windows Defender, etc.
Android has components, that people who want to strike Android will count as preinstalled - Media Library, Music Player, Play Store; do I need to continue to make it any more clear?
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Exactly....I should have clarified. No reason to get overly excited in my opinion.

how many forced apps like instagram, 3 messaging apps, svoice etc.
then i have to add apps like cookie jam that my carrier pushed on my phone.
i barely use any of the included apps on my note 4. and ive only installed apps that work on my nexus so the lag is really a samsung thing.
my s5 wasnt laggy at all, just the internet was crawling cos the antana. so i upgraded to the note 4. signal is great but phone lags so bad

GreeleyXda said:
how many forced apps like instagram, 3 messaging apps, svoice etc.
then i have to add apps like cookie jam that my carrier pushed on my phone.
i barely use any of the included apps on my note 4. and ive only installed apps that work on my nexus so the lag is really a samsung thing.
my s5 wasnt laggy at all, just the internet was crawling cos the antana. so i upgraded to the note 4. signal is great but phone lags so bad
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As long as your carrier does not screw up the software, I can assure you S6 does not lag. I have played with both S6 and S6 Edge and they are as lagless as I can imagine.

These so called review sites form a opinion about a product and then try their best to generalize it. Why nobody talks about all the Google apps that come pre-installed?
I have myself checked S6 out and those apps and all are basic necessities after you buy a new phone.

It is true I was messing around with one yesterday and it's impossible to uninstall only disable, it will consume space on a device that's not expandable in terms of memory ?

marcochapita said:
It is true I was messing around with one yesterday and it's impossible to uninstall only disable, it will consume space on a device that's not expandable in terms of memory ?
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And if you could uninstall them you would still only have xx amount of usable storage. The apps are stored in a partition of the memory. This is why I wonder why people get so bent out of shape over bloat. Disable it. You can't use that memory anyways.

What is the point of this nonsense! Cramming their phones with apps most of their customers don't want or use. If I want any of Samsung apps, I could go to the store and download it. Samsung itself knows that Touchwiz is hated by the majority and that is why their trimmed 40% of it but I think more trimming could have been done.

zathus said:
And if you could uninstall them you would still only have xx amount of usable storage. The apps are stored in a partition of the memory. This is why I wonder why people get so bent out of shape over bloat. Disable it. You can't use that memory anyways.
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atleast you wouldnt have things in the background making you lag.

GreeleyXda said:
atleast you wouldnt have things in the background making you lag.
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D I S A B L E them......

zathus said:
And if you could uninstall them you would still only have xx amount of usable storage. The apps are stored in a partition of the memory. This is why I wonder why people get so bent out of shape over bloat. Disable it. You can't use that memory anyways.
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zathus said:
GreeleyXda said:
atleast you wouldnt have things in the background making you lag.
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D I S A B L E them......
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Quoted for truth.

The apps shouldnt be there to begin with. But they take less than a GB of storage so I dont really care.
Can someone make a list of apps that Samsung have removed from the S6. I think the usual lot are still there. And they have added a Smart Manager and 3 MS apps... Sammobiles report of there being only 2 samsung apps was waay off

androidi10 said:
What is the point of this nonsense! Cramming their phones with apps most of their customers don't want or use. If I want any of Samsung apps, I could go to the store and download it. Samsung itself knows that Touchwiz is hated by the majority and that is why their trimmed 40% of it but I think more trimming could have been done.
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What kind of thinking is that? Do you also expect Apple os MS not to include the most basic software on the OS either? Notepad or Paint? Do you expect Samsung to be different here? Everyone says it has been heavily debloated already, yet you have not seen the phone yet and already complaining?

Szadzik said:
What kind of thinking is that? Do you also expect Apple os MS not to include the most basic software on the OS either? Notepad or Paint? Do you expect Samsung to be different here? Everyone says it has been heavily debloated already, yet you have not seen the phone yet and already complaining?
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its fluid, not denloated. samsung is the one who said it wasnt going to put its app on the phone, instead allowing ppl to download them, but instead they forced partner apps too (mircrosoft apps and whatsapp)
i dont understand the brush it under the carpet response. yes its a nice phone, but samsung lied. its fluid, but thats mostly because of its specs.

GreeleyXda said:
its fluid, not denloated. samsung is the one who said it wasnt going to put its app on the phone, instead allowing ppl to download them, but instead they forced partner apps too (mircrosoft apps and whatsapp)
i dont understand the brush it under the carpet response. yes its a nice phone, but samsung lied. its fluid, but thats mostly because of its specs.
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Do you have S5? Have you compared how much stuff is gone from S5 to S6? I have, and can tell you it is heavily debloated and 5 apps fo not change that at all.

i had an s5.
i compared the best buy S6 to my Note 4. they had all kinds of junk apps on it.
every single samsung phone ive played with that has flipboard, that thing always feels horrible. other than that the S6 was fluid and videos on the S6 edge looked fantastic.