Apparently ThinkFree Office is pre-installed on the Nexus S.
I just found /system/app/Thinkfree.apk 5.04MB
But I can't access it.
OH MY GOD, CRAPWARE!
I'll never, ever buy another ... nah, just kidding. I don't have a problem with it, but it's a bit surprising.
http://www.pr-inside.com/hancom-s-thinkfree-mobile-viewer-is-r2327416.htm
Its there so you can view documents. I wouldn't call it crapware.
schizopunk said:
Its there so you can view documents. I wouldn't call it crapware.
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How do I view documents with it? I can't run it, it's not in the app list.
And it's definitely not a part of Pure Google.
shrivelfig said:
How do I view documents with it? I can't run it, it's not in the app list.
And it's definitely not a part of Pure Google.
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...open a .doc file from a website on your phone.....
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...open a .doc file from a website on your phone.....
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Huh. Wouldja lookit that. It's alive!
Nope. I don't want it. I'm not saying it is useless, but if I ever wanted to do stuff like that, I'd very much prefer Documents To Go, which I've known and used since it came bundled with my Palm Tungsten T3. ThinkFree? Never heard of it before I found it on my phone.
I'm still leaning towards the crapware label. It's not from Google, it's not part of standard Android, it's non-removable (unless rooted), it has limited functionality but it can be upgraded for a fee. Yes, that does sound familiar.
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Huh. Wouldja lookit that. It's alive!
Nope. I don't want it. I'm not saying it is useless, but if I ever wanted to do stuff like that, I'd very much prefer Documents To Go, which I've known and used since it came bundled with my Palm Tungsten T3. ThinkFree? Never heard of it before I found it on my phone.
I'm still leaning towards the crapware label. It's not from Google, it's not part of standard Android, it's non-removable (unless rooted), it has limited functionality but it can be upgraded for a fee. Yes, that does sound familiar.
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android 2.2 2.1 1.5 and 1.6 all had software like that as well
slowz3r said:
android 2.2 2.1 1.5 and 1.6 all had software like that as well
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On the Nexus One?
lulz. n00bs. It's not crapware. All Androids had some sort of office file readers.
HTC Androids (including Nexus One) had QuickOffice. Samsung Androids (Including Nexus S) uses ThinkFree. Both are free versions and there are full paid versions on the Market.
It's inside the /system/app/ like mentioned. So it does NOT use user available install space.
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ya on the N1 it had a different office app, not necessarily to create docs but to read,
...if it didnt have anything like that people would just complain
This thread is nonsense, just turn on any non nexus phone and you will see what crapware is.
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Good point. I'm just a bit surprised, that's all. ThinkFree Office was put there by Samsung, and I thought everything to do with software was going to be Google, and Google only.
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This thread is nonsense, just turn on any non nexus phone and you will see what crapware is.
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I just turned on my I5700 Spica. Let's see. There's Layar, and MySpace, Facebook, and of course TouchWiz. Anything particular I should be looking for? The phone was bought discounted and on-contract.
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I just turned on my I5700 Spica. Let's see. There's Layar, and MySpace, Facebook, and of course TouchWiz. Anything particular I should be looking for? The phone was bought discounted and on-contract.
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Yep thats all crapware especially touchwiz. Thats why people buy the nexus s. If you like it cool go to a touchwiz forum and have fun.
Aside from TouchWiz, you can't really call the rest crapwear when the Nexus comes with Facebook, Goggles, Twitter, etc
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Aside from TouchWiz, you can't really call the rest crapwear when the Nexus comes with Facebook, Goggles, Twitter, etc
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My SNS didn't come with Facebook or Twitter. Goggles is a Google app...
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Ah I just assumed it did as Google built them into the N1. Googles might well be a Google app, but that doesn't mean everyone wants it
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So, Layar, MySpace, Facebook, and TouchWiz is crapware. Got it.
How is ThinkFree Office not crapware, then? Please explain. Because I want to know why this thread is nonsense.
Thats why people buy the nexus s. If you like it cool go to a touchwiz forum and have fun.
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What makes you think that I like TouchWiz? I bought the Nexus S to get away from crapware. Which is why I was surprised to find non-Google software on it.
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So, Layar, MySpace, Facebook, and TouchWiz is crapware. Got it.
How is ThinkFree Office not crapware, then? Please explain. Because I want to know why this thread is nonsense.
What makes you think that I like TouchWiz? I bought the Nexus S to get away from crapware. Which is why I was surprised to find non-Google software on it.
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BECAUSE it's an office file reader that's built in.
Again, GOOGLE on the HTC NEXUS ONE (a PURE google device) includes QUICKOFFICE.
It's the SAME as THINKFREE.
If you don't like it, go return it.
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call me crazy but I don't think touchwiz is crap. Samsung actually did some cool things with it. I like how the notification panel has a power control widget integrated into it. Also the built in codec support is nice as well.
This is based on playing with touchwiz 3.0 for like five minutes lol.
pretty much anything that you didnt download and isnt included in vanilla android is crapware.
what's all the fuss about such a nice app?
if you don't like it, just uninstall it with Titanium Backup
it's so easy
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Did anyone notice the apps Shazam and Where are gone from Market downloads? Those are the best free apps out there and it is completely gone. I feel so lost now.
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Did anyone notice the apps Shazam and Where are gone from Market downloads? Those are the best free apps out there and it is completely gone. I feel so lost now.
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Just search google for the apk and sideload it...
Edit, Shazam is back not sure whats going on with Where.
Edit2, Where? must not be available on Rogers either. I use Poynt. It's just as useful to me.
WHERE isn't available from an AT&T connection, as they have their own WHERE on their Android phones.
How it's filtered I don't know.
thanks guys. I have t-mobile but Shazam and Where is still missing from Market. It must be a carrier thing but I thought we all share the same android Market. I even tried a search for Poynt and that wasn't in Market either. I do have the apk for Shazam and I tried to install it but It failed (the same install worked last time). So I think these two great apps are gone for good from T-mobile.
I can find Shazam here in the UK.
try sound hound. blows shazaam out the water
I just checked my market (Motorola Droid running CM v6.0.0) and both Where and Shazam both show up. So it must be a carrier thing, not an Android Market thing.
Such a shame but thanks for recommending Sound Hound. It works great. One down and one to go.
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Such a shame but thanks for recommending Sound Hound. It works great. One down and one to go.
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I'm pretty sure you can get poynt from the website (but it just may email you a link to the market I'm not sure).
http://poynt.com/android.html
yes, it's just a link to the market and it's not available off the market. But thanks anyways.
Have you tried the market enabler? I was told something about changing regions but I've never installed it. Might be worth a try if you have a free minute.
nope no different. anyone know of an app that will replace "Where"?
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Every phone "shares the same Market" as you said, but we're not allowed to walk down the same aisles. Developers can filter their app to not be visible by certain carriers or in certain countries, so you may not see it on T-Mobile but somebody on Verizon might.
As for Where, there are a million of those location awareness apps that can replace it. They may not be as good or to your preference, but Poynt, Yelp, Geodelic, etc. might do the core features.
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nope no different. anyone know of an app that will replace "Where"?
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IMO, Google Places and GasBuddy replaces WHERE. If you really want the food etc type stuff, add Yelp too.
Or download the WHERE apk I suppose. It's around.
I have a nexus one running cm6 on T-Mobile USA and both of the apps show up on the market just did a quick search to make sure
The PayPal Mobile app disappeared for me from Verizon's market after I upgraded my Droid X to 2.2. Apparently it's still visible to 2.1 users, presumably since Verizon has been so slow about officially pushing out Froyo. I finally tracked down the APK and all is well.
The geographic/version limitations of the market are silly in the 'big picture' but I guess they make sense from a business standpoint for the carriers and everyone else getting a piece of the pie
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I have a nexus one running cm6 on T-Mobile USA and both of the apps show up on the market just did a quick search to make sure
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I have the same specs as well but it still isn't visible in market. So I guess it's area specific? I'll give those other apps a try. Thanks guys. It's just more convenient when you have just one app that can complete multiple functions instead of having two or three apps.
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The PayPal Mobile app disappeared for me from Verizon's market after I upgraded my Droid X to 2.2. Apparently it's still visible to 2.1 users, presumably since Verizon has been so slow about officially pushing out Froyo. I finally tracked down the APK and all is well.
The geographic/version limitations of the market are silly in the 'big picture' but I guess they make sense from a business standpoint for the carriers and everyone else getting a piece of the pie
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Where did you find the PayPal apk? I've been trying to find it and get it from PayPal for quite some time now...
EDIT: Never mind. I was able to find the apk from Android Freeware.
They replaced Shazam for Shazam Encore now, so now its no longer unlimited tagging its replaced to 5 tags a month now. You have to buy it to get ad free and also get it unlimited tags
About to buy one and I just wanna know
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Pure vanilla Android.
There's a bunch of stuff preinstalled on it, but it's all Google stuff; I don't think there's any third-party apps.
It's not plain android, there's a bunch of Google bloatware.
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It's not plain android, there's a bunch of Google bloatware.
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I'm curious as to what you consider Google bloatware, because the Nexus S is about as plain as you can get. Most of the time bloatware is stuff added by OEMs, such as the preinstalled demo games on the MT4G. Mind elaborating?
I can't speak for JC, but in my mind, anything that comes preinstalled on a device which I neither want nor need is bloatware. This, of course, makes the entire concept subjective, but in general with things like Android, I think less is more, since you can download nearly all of these things from the Market anyway. The consumer-side justification of "bloatware" (revenue for the provider, of course, being the primary, producer-side justification) is to present the user with access to a service they might otherwise not know to look for. ("Oh, hey, my phone can play TV/can display YouTube/has internet radio/whatever!"). For most of us though, particularly anyone savvy enough to be on XDA in the first place, most of it ends up falling into one of three categories:
-Don't care about
-Use a different app for
-Would have downloaded if it wasn't included.
In any case, I've observed that what most people have the biggest issue with isn't that stuff may come preinstalled on their phone, it's that you can't get rid of it, and if you do, you may well open yourself to a world of trouble should you ever wish to install an OTA update.
I would consider it plain android, as the "bloatware" on it is really only google apps, which come with all android phones. It doesn't have bloatware from a third party though like some of the other android phones. Either way, bloatware can be removed off any rooted phone with titanium backup
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I can't speak for JC, but in my mind, anything that comes preinstalled on a device which I neither want nor need is bloatware. This, of course, makes the entire concept subjective, but in general with things like Android, I think less is more, since you can download nearly all of these things from the Market anyway. The consumer-side justification of "bloatware" (revenue for the provider, of course, being the primary, producer-side justification) is to present the user with access to a service they might otherwise not know to look for. ("Oh, hey, my phone can play TV/can display YouTube/has internet radio/whatever!"). For most of us though, particularly anyone savvy enough to be on XDA in the first place, most of it ends up falling into one of three categories:
-Don't care about
-Use a different app for
-Would have downloaded if it wasn't included.
In any case, I've observed that what most people have the biggest issue with isn't that stuff may come preinstalled on their phone, it's that you can't get rid of it, and if you do, you may well open yourself to a world of trouble should you ever wish to install an OTA update.
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Fair enough points.
Unfortunately, we still run into that last issue even on the Nexus S. Folks were unable to update via the stock 2.3.1 OTA if they had modified system files, such replacing the stock Mms.apk or Gmail.apk with the black/custom ones from the Themes & Apps section or deleting any of their relevant .odexs. Even placing the missing files back on the system partition didn't seem to work, at least for me. It was a very curious update.
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Fair enough points.
Unfortunately, we still run into that last issue even on the Nexus S. Folks were unable to update via the stock 2.3.1 OTA if they had modified system files, such replacing the stock Mms.apk or Gmail.apk with the black/custom ones from the Themes & Apps section or deleting any of their relevant .odexs. Even placing the missing files back on the system partition didn't seem to work, at least for me. It was a very curious update.
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Yeah, I soft-bricked my Vibrant trying to grab T-Mobile's OTA after I took it upon myself to delete all the extraneous crapware that came with it. They can be very touchy indeed. It's a steep learning curve for newbies. x_x
Next question,how is t mobiles 4G .I live in knox tn. Anyone know?
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So it doesn't have the useless Amazon mp3 app anymore like the nexus one?
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Next question,how is t mobiles 4G .I live in knox tn. Anyone know?
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No HSPA+ (it's not 4G!) on the Nexus S. Don't ask me why, it boggles my mind too.
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So it doesn't have the useless Amazon mp3 app anymore like the nexus one?
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No Amazon MP3 app installed. Just made me look at my app drawer to confirm, lol.
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So it doesn't have the useless Amazon mp3 app anymore like the nexus one?
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Nope, they put google earth in its place.
There is also that office app that is NOT a google product...so yea, there is a bit of bloat, but pretty much it is vanilla.
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No HSPA+ (it's not 4G!) on the Nexus S. Don't ask me why, it boggles my mind too.
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True, but it does still support up to 7.2Mbps down which you'll only get in a t-mobile 4g area.
I was just in Orlando and i was getting around 5-6Mbps on my N1 and in a Nexus S i was testing at best buy and it was pretty damn fast. puts my DSL connection at home to shame.
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There is also that office app that is NOT a google product...so yea, there is a bit of bloat, but pretty much it is vanilla.
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I don't think Google has an office app for Android. Every device has launched with some kind of partnered 3rd party, either ThinkFree, or Quickoffice. At least, I think those are the two they've used.
If they didn't, you wouldn't be able to read any kind of text document on your phone and that's just kind of a silly thing to not be able to do, imo.
EDIT: And on that note, Google should probably make a office app! lol
Who really cares whats installed or not, EVERYTHING can be uninstalled.
after using ThinkFREE for a while on the Galaxy S, i can say it's really good
way better than the Docs To Go and/or QuickOffice which i'm using on the XT720
but truth is... you don't need any of those with Google Office online, it's so much easier to keep things and work with documents using Google Office Online
Does the charge really not have a notepad of some kind?
I have the galaxy tab and that has something called memo, im really surprised its not on the charge
I didn't even notice the lack of a Samsung note app.
I always just use Color Note from the market anyways. Odd that Samsung didn't include one, but they're are plenty of free alternatives.
I'll wager there are plenty of folks who would ***** about a Samsung notepad being bloatware.
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I'll wager there are plenty of folks who would ***** about a Samsung notepad being bloatware.
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HAHAHAH your probably right but I dont consider that bloatware but yeah they probably realized they couldnt possibly put anymore stuff on the phone stock without people freaking out, which they already do
I use AK Notepad - newer versions let you sync to some cloud server. I use an old version and took out the Market link with TiBu (so it never asks to update) since I back it up locally anyways.
So as much as I love android there is one thing that I kinda of envy when it comes to blackberrys and Iphones and and that would be bbm/imessages. Now im well aware there are apps out there like gtalk or chaton which acts like imessages but I personally would like to see this built into the messaging app itself. I am no developer or anything but it seems that imessages works on the device when it is linked towards the email used for the app store so would it not be easy for google to implement this into their os? I mean on the start up of each android device it does ask you for your gmail password so I was just thinking that this just may be a really nice feature to come out with key lime pie or something. Does anyone else feel this way?
Is this any different from Google Talk? Instant Messaging tied to the Gmail account, rather than the phone number. It's just not as immensely popular.
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Is this any different from Google Talk? Instant Messaging tied to the Gmail account, rather than the phone number. It's just not as immensely popular.
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Well thats the thing. GTalk is perfect but for example all of my friends who own android products havent even heard of it. Im just thinking if google linked GTalk to a phone number then it could be good.
I agree. This would be amazing.
Yes that would be awesome
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So I guess a better question is what are the odds of this actually being implemented into the next update?
I have to admit that I do miss bbm from when I used blackberry's. But besides that mild feeling of exclusivity I don't really think its much different thn just texting
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I have to admit that I do miss bbm from when I used blackberry's. But besides that mild feeling of exclusivity I don't really think its much different thn just texting
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Ya i hear ya. I guess the only reason I feel something like Imessages would be helpful is because if we are in places with almost no service but there is wifi it would be pretty amazing. Then again i would be scared for samsung or google to implement this because the last thing we need is another apple lawsuit haha
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So I guess a better question is what are the odds of this actually being implemented into the next update?
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1 in 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000.
if google would make it part of the steup wizard and allow images/sounds to be transferred over gtalk, it would be amazing.
But.. can i remove the google apps without root? like chrome for example, i don't use them
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But.. can i remove the google apps without root? like chrome for example, i don't use them
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If its a system app then no, you need root
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But.. can i remove the google apps without root? like chrome for example, i don't use them
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Regardless of the phone you can't remove system apps without root, but you can disable them.
So no point to buy a device with pure android, i'll look for another device, thanks!
If you buy a non-Google Android phone you'll probably get even more bloatware. I always disable most Google stuff like Google+, Play apps (except the Play store obviously) and all other Google apps. I only use chrome, calendar and contacts. I also disable most Google syncs. Only syncing chrome, contacts, calendar and app data (not sure if I can disable app data safely).
Lol. This is probably the most dumb choice I've ever seen anyone make, not getting a device because of system installed apps. Apps that most likely will exist in other OEM roms.
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So no point to buy a device with pure android, i'll look for another device, thanks!
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Every phone will have apps you don't need, good luck finding one that doesn't.
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So no point to buy a device with pure android, i'll look for another device, thanks!
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Pure Android means purely built by Google, this is no way means no bloatware (and the bloatware is GApps, the thing we all install after installing a custom ROM).
I have to agree, this is dumb. Also, I would say the OP might be one of those "open source everything" people, which I won't get into my distaste for that viewpoint in this thread.
Why would it be so difficult or distasteful to buy, root and flash an open source ROM without flashing GAPPs? This just doesn't make sense from a normal viewpoint.
Is it even possible to get a new in box nexus 5 at this point? I don't buy used phones. I'd be willing to sell my like-new nexus 5 in red 32gb soon though...
Let me explain better: i see a review about nexus 5 and i see 2 browsers, chrome and android stock, i thought if i buy a pure android to get at last chrome or pure android browser, why i have to get both? i've both on my s4, i don't see the reason to buy another device that's like a samsung (not so similar but... ) because i don't see any reason to get a pure android like nexus or a samsung or others, thanks for replys!
I can't even
peachpuff said:
Every phone will have apps you don't need, good luck finding one that doesn't.
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This phone and the m8 are the only phones I've ever owned where OEM stuff didn't severely detract from my experience, and I've owned a lot of phones. The most maddening was the Note 4 because if I flashed a ROM that wasn't Touchwiz-based I'd lose spen functionality and completely negate the whole point of buying the phone in the first place. Half of these manafacturers have their own apps store, I don't understand why they can't just put the superfluous stuff on there and make it optional.
edit: also OP's reasoning here is severely flawed.
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Let me explain better
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You didn't explain it at all.
pringled said:
Half of these manafacturers have their own apps store, I don't understand why they can't just put the superfluous stuff on there and make it optional.
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They want to tie you to their ecosystem "oh i like this stupid little samsung app, oh my next phone will be another samsung" you get the idea.
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You didn't explain it at all.
They want to tie you to their ecosystem "oh i like this stupid little samsung app, oh my next phone will be another samsung" you get the idea.
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Yeah, I understand their rationale, I just find it surprising how almost no OEMs take into account how many people find this to be a detriment/ try to avoid blowback or be different by catering to the likes of us by striking a compromise. Is it so much to ask for all corporate decisions to be based around me?I think not. Basically, and this is a pretty controversial statement, I don't much care for TouchWiz.
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You didn't explain it at all.
They want to tie you to their ecosystem "oh i like this stupid little samsung app, oh my next phone will be another samsung" you get the idea.
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You have a nexus 5? i've see a video where there's android stock browser and chrome, and i wanted to know if were possible remove chrome for example (without root)
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You have a nexus 5? i've see a video where there's android stock browser and chrome, and i wanted to know if were possible remove chrome for example (without root)
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No you can't its a system app
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You have a nexus 5? i've see a video where there's android stock browser and chrome, and i wanted to know if were possible remove chrome for example (without root)
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Not possible remove system app without root, basically on all android phone. This is needed for noob users who dont really know what they make
If you are use google factory image, then you dont have double app, for example browser, camera etc because the stock replaced with the google ones. ( basically with full gapps too if you flash a good one )
If you want pure android, you need flash one clean aosp build with micro gapps.
Cyanogenmod can boot and working without gapps if i remember right Aosp build without gapps i dont know, but i think its not working without FC :/