[Q] M8 or... - Verizon HTC One (M8)

Hey everybody i have a really tough decision here. I'm currently the owner of a verizon s5 (worst phone i have ever had). i still have the htc m7 unlocked and s-off. I love the phone but the screen is a tad to small for me now and the battery is horrible since it's pretty old. I'm in the market for a new phone and i don't want the m9 or the s6, My current choices that I'm thinking of is the Moto x (2014) or the m8 used. I like the thought that i can unlock the m8 and install custom rom but the moto x has near stock android. I can get the m8 in mint condition used for around the same price as the moto x brand new. Can anyone help me here? this is probably the hardest phone decision i have had to make.

I purchased an HTC M8 on swappa and I do love the phone. But, it had already been updated to lollipop so I very limited on rooting it as the sunshine app has not 'Yet' been updated to work with the Verizon M8 on lollipop so I have to wait for it to be updated. Or you can find someone with a java card so you don't have to wait for Sunshine to be updated to work on the Verizon M8.
I'm trying to wait for the sunshine app to be updated and until then, I am running the Nova launcher, Adblockplus which works on WiFi and the Adblockplus browser for when I'm not on WiFi, greenify has some limited functionality without root and there are a few other options to help for now.
The Moto X is a nice phone as well, but you would need to get a developer edition if you want to root it on Verizon.

morr22066 said:
I purchased an HTC M8 on swappa and I do love the phone. But, it had already been updated to lollipop so I very limited on rooting it as the sunshine app has not 'Yet' been updated to work with the Verizon M8 on lollipop so I have to wait for it to be updated. Or you can find someone with a java card so you don't have to wait for Sunshine to be updated to work on the Verizon M8.
I'm trying to wait for the sunshine app to be updated and until then, I am running the Nova launcher, Adblockplus which works on WiFi and the Adblockplus browser for when I'm not on WiFi, greenify has some limited functionality without root and there are a few other options to help for now.
The Moto X is a nice phone as well, but you would need to get a developer edition if you want to root it on Verizon.
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I plan on doing the same thing you have done with the m8 (buy on swappa). but i have messaged a person about what android version is currently on it and he replied it has 4.4.4. so i can use the sunshine on that to unlock and s-off right?. as for the developer edition i don't think they have one for verizon. I am talking about the latest 2014 generation of the moto x.

Yeah the sunshine app should work on the Verizon M8 running 4.4.4, but double check the xda thread to be sure as it's been a while since I read through it.
On Verizon Moto devices sunshine only works through version 4.4.3 on most of them. On The Moto X, I know the 2013 first generation had a dev edition but they may have done away with it for the 2014 second generation.
The HTC One M8 I got in swappa was like new for less than most of the beat up ones so I couldn't pass it up even though it was running lollipop. The really good ones at great prices go fast, so if you find one don't wait too long.

morr22066 said:
Yeah the sunshine app should work on the Verizon M8 running 4.4.4, but double check the xda thread to be sure as it's been a while since I read through it.
On Verizon Moto devices sunshine only works through version 4.4.3 on most of them. On The Moto X, I know the 2013 first generation had a dev edition but they may have done away with it for the 2014 second generation.
The HTC One M8 I got in swappa was like new for less than most of the beat up ones so I couldn't pass it up even though it was running lollipop. The really good ones at great prices go fast, so if you find one don't wait too long.
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Ok thank you for replying. So you think the m8 is a better choice? right know i'm leaning more towards the m8 there actually about the same price (moto x new and m8 used in mint condition). but the m8 will have custom rom capability so it will get android updates faster than the moto on a carrier network (i think). but on the build quality i think that m8 is superior on this one although not much different than the moto x. Are you liking your m8 so far even though you are dealing with htc sense, any regrets? Thanks!

I love Moto devices, most of my phones have been Moto, but with Verizon locking everything down I decided to move on to HTC, first the M7 which I really liked and now the M8. If I could afford a Nexus 6 or were on a different network I would probably try Moto again but for now since I am on Verizon I plan on sticking with the M8, it's a great device, the physical appearance and style, I love the build quality, the front facing speakers and the developer support.
I plan on trying the Google project ARA modular phone when it's finally released, but will be keeping my M8.

morr22066 said:
I love Moto devices, most of my phones have been Moto, but with Verizon locking everything down I decided to move on to HTC, first the M7 which I really liked and now the M8. If I could afford a Nexus 6 or were on a different network I would probably try Moto again but for now since I am on Verizon I plan on sticking with the M8, it's a great device, the physical appearance and style, I love the build quality, the front facing speakers and the developer support.
I plan on trying the Google project ARA modular phone when it's finally released, but will be keeping my M8.
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Ok great looks like m8 it is

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Maxx vs X pre purchase questions.

I am wondering if the maxx is worth getting over the x. I ask because I know the x is already on 4.4 and I don't know if the x on vzw is locked like every other phone. I know this one is, so I doubt there are or will be any ports to speed up the process of updates. So is it worth it to get the maxx for the battery life and wireless charging or just go with the X. Just wanted to get some owners thoughts. Thanks.
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1454 said:
I am wondering if the maxx is worth getting over the x. I ask because I know the x is already on 4.4 and I don't know if the x on vzw is locked like every other phone. I know this one is, so I doubt there are or will be any ports to speed up the process of updates. So is it worth it to get the maxx for the battery life and wireless charging or just go with the X. Just wanted to get some owners thoughts. Thanks.
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I thought so but comes down to individual opinion or preference. Yes, they both are locked since Verizon mandates it be so. The only unlocked ones will be the developer editions bought off contract. I would suggest demoing them in a Verizon store to see the difference first hand then.
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I thought so but comes down to individual opinion or preference. Yes, they both are locked since Verizon mandates it be so. The only unlocked ones will be the developer editions bought off contract. I would suggest demoing them in a Verizon store to see the difference first hand then.
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I guess that is the vzw way. So i can't really expect much else. I guess the main thing I'm wondering about is the speed of updates compared with the X since I guess there won't be much in the way of development for the maxx. Or so I assume based on previous experiences with locked bootloaders.
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I have both. My X is a locked VZW one and my Maxx is the VZW dev edition. Supposedly the ultra/maxx is getting 4.4 soon so the update speed will probably be comparable to the X since both are so similar. I love the form of the X and the battery life on the Maxx. If I had to choose between the two, I'd have to go for the Maxx. I just love not having to charge it for two days and aside from the form, it's basically an X with better battery life.
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I have both. My X is a locked VZW one and my Maxx is the VZW dev edition. Supposedly the ultra/maxx is getting 4.4 soon so the update speed will probably be comparable to the X since both are so similar. I love the form of the X and the battery life on the Maxx. If I had to choose between the two, I'd have to go for the Maxx. I just love not having to charge it for two days and aside from the form, it's basically an X with better battery life.
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the Ultra/Maxx has been running about 2 weeks behind the X in updates. Definitely more development for the X even the locked ones than the Ultra/Maxx but, imho, the stock ROM is pretty close to vanilla android and is very, very fluid and smooth.
I love my Maxx, and while I cant wait for kit kat, I do not regret getting the Maxx over the x. especially since I was able to get best buy to price match Radio Shack on the maxx down to the same price the x was going for.
The locked bootloader hardly matters to me, the stock software is buttery smooth. Just top it with root, and sprinkle some xposed framework to taste. No kitchen needed!
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The locked bootloader hardly matters to me, the stock software is buttery smooth. Just top it with root, and sprinkle some xposed framework to taste. No kitchen needed!
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The big problem with locked bootloaders is that you need to wait for an exploit to get root. Or, you need to stay on old versions. The problem is, as a user, you really do want to have those root exploits patched. If you care about security, that is.
I have a Maxx. Like stonesaber, I really like the form factor of the Moto X, but I really wanted the longest battery life I could get. That ultimately took precedence. Wireless charging is a nice add-on feature, too, but that didn't factor into my decision at all. If for some reason you don't care that much about battery life, I think the Moto X is the right choice.
The Droid lineup should stay relatively up-to-date thanks to being so similar to the Moto X. But, it's a little disappointing that we're 2 weeks out from the Verizon Moto X kitkat OTA and we don't even have an active soak test going on (these aren't publicized, but the news always leaks).
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the Ultra/Maxx has been running about 2 weeks behind the X in updates. Definitely more development for the X even the locked ones than the Ultra/Maxx but, imho, the stock ROM is pretty close to vanilla android and is very, very fluid and smooth.
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Teksu said:
I love my Maxx, and while I cant wait for kit kat, I do not regret getting the Maxx over the x. especially since I was able to get best buy to price match Radio Shack on the maxx down to the same price the x was going for.
The locked bootloader hardly matters to me, the stock software is buttery smooth. Just top it with root, and sprinkle some xposed framework to taste. No kitchen needed!
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It will be nice to get 4.4 on the MAXX, but it's honestly almost perfect as is. If it had a slightly better camera, it would be flawless. Even completely stock, non-rooted. This is my first phone I haven't rooted, and I've been with Android since the ADP1.
reggie14 said:
The Droid lineup should stay relatively up-to-date thanks to being so similar to the Moto X. But, it's a little disappointing that we're 2 weeks out from the Verizon Moto X kitkat OTA and we don't even have an active soak test going on (these aren't publicized, but the news always leaks).
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The latest droid OTA was about 4-5 weeks behind the first Moto X OTA (ignore the fact that it was 2 weeks behind the VZW update - Verizon was early with the KK update), and I am sure that Moto was pretty much shut down last week for Thanksgiving, so that's a lost week. There are still Moto X 4.4 updates that have not been done. Also, when they announced the Moto G a few weeks ago with 4.3 they announced that the G would get 4.4 by January. My guess is that they may be working on getting that done before the Droids. So, if we're lucky, we see soak test rumors in a couple of weeks, to as long as month after that.
I guess we'll see, though.
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The latest droid OTA was about 4-5 weeks behind the first Moto X OTA (ignore the fact that it was 2 weeks behind the VZW update - Verizon was early with the KK update), and I am sure that Moto was pretty much shut down last week for Thanksgiving, so that's a lost week. There are still Moto X 4.4 updates that have not been done. Also, when they announced the Moto G a few weeks ago with 4.3 they announced that the G would get 4.4 by January. My guess is that they may be working on getting that done before the Droids. So, if we're lucky, we see soak test rumors in a couple of weeks, to as long as month after that.
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I'll be really disappointed if we end up with update more than about a month behind VZW's Moto X...
I guess I've generally assumed Verizon has been the slow party when it comes to software updates. Given how close the Moto X is to the Droid lineup, I initially assumed (probably incorrectly) Motorola would deliver Droid updates to VZW at about the same time as the Moto X update. I assumed the delay was largely due to VZW only wanting to focus their testing on one device at a time.
Given the speed of the VZW Moto X update, now I'm really thinking Motorola is holding up the show.
I'm finding this a little troubling. When I assumed Motorola basically would/could create Droid updates with Moto X updates, I felt pretty confident that as long as the Moto X lineup is getting updates, we'd get updates. I'm less convinced that's going to be the case now. Motorola doesn't really care about the Droid lineup- the Moto X is their baby.
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I'll be really disappointed if we end up with update more than about a month behind VZW's Moto X...
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Even if it's a month behind, it will likely be before any other non-Google phone. So far, only the X, the Nexus devices, and the Google experience phones have KitKat. If that's the experience going forward, I'll be very pleased. (That said, I am sure that when Moto releases an update to X, and updates to the Droids, sometime next year, our updates come later, just as the Razr HD series will get KK updates after these Droids. So it goes...)
I guess I've generally assumed Verizon has been the slow party when it comes to software updates. Given how close the Moto X is to the Droid lineup, I initially assumed (probably incorrectly) Motorola would deliver Droid updates to VZW at about the same time as the Moto X update. I assumed the delay was largely due to VZW only wanting to focus their testing on one device at a time.
Given the speed of the VZW Moto X update, now I'm really thinking Motorola is holding up the show.
I'm finding this a little troubling. When I assumed Motorola basically would/could create Droid updates with Moto X updates, I felt pretty confident that as long as the Moto X lineup is getting updates, we'd get updates. I'm less convinced that's going to be the case now. Motorola doesn't really care about the Droid lineup- the Moto X is their baby.
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Yes, Moto X is their baby, and all of those updates are not yet done (I think I read that Sprint is sending out soak test emails today.) Now maybe the Moto G bumps the Droids, too, though we'll see. However, both Motorola and Verizon have said that they will do a much better job on timely updates. Motorola said this when they released their first phones post-Google acquisition (the new Droids and the X) and Verizon said so at, I believe, the Droid release event last summer. So far that's looking right. So, yes, I think that Motorola really does care about the Droids. However, the X is the phone that *they* sell and that is the basis for their reputation. It's simply a no-brainer that they will pay attention to that phone before the Droids.
The Maxx is a great phone on Jellybean. Looking at the Moto X boards, it seems there are some bugs on KitKat at the moment. Maybe it's good that we're, um, "late".
I love this phone, like so much. The battery life is incredible
Love that it wakes up when I pull out out of my pocket (works great if you have a double tap to turn off the screen when you're done. Power button is barely used)
Touchless control is amazing.
Coming from the note 3 to the LG G2, I'm incredibly happy with this phone
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Its a preference issue. If you like a long battery life then the maxx is for you. I was shocked today when I spent 10 hours at a concert on my phone making calls recording video updating my sites etc. I was in the middle of a crowd and the bags of water that people are wrecked my reception, but after the show I had 48% left. The phone was actually warm in my pocket most of the time because of the reception.
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Thanks all for the responses. Can I ask what kinds of normal screen on time you guys are getting?
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I get a good 6 hrs. and thats of good constant use... i'd imagine if you just use your phone sporadically through the day, it'd get alot more.
1454 said:
Thanks all for the responses. Can I ask what kinds of normal screen on time you guys are getting?
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Yesterday, after 15 hours off charger, I had 4 hours of screen on time and was still at 45%, and a good chunk of that screen on time was playing games.
doogald said:
The latest droid OTA was about 4-5 weeks behind the first Moto X OTA (ignore the fact that it was 2 weeks behind the VZW update - Verizon was early with the KK update), and I am sure that Moto was pretty much shut down last week for Thanksgiving, so that's a lost week. There are still Moto X 4.4 updates that have not been done. Also, when they announced the Moto G a few weeks ago with 4.3 they announced that the G would get 4.4 by January. My guess is that they may be working on getting that done before the Droids. So, if we're lucky, we see soak test rumors in a couple of weeks, to as long as month after that.
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Sorry to quote myself, but it looks like this is a reliable indicator for updates - when the X gets its first update, the Droids are about 4-6 weeks behind. The X first got the update November 19, the Droids started December 19. I'm fine with that. (Let's hope that future updates don't brick stock phones, though.)
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Sorry to quote myself, but it looks like this is a reliable indicator for updates - when the X gets its first update, the Droids are about 4-6 weeks behind. The X first got the update November 19, the Droids started December 19. I'm fine with that. (Let's hope that future updates don't brick stock phones, though.)
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I just don't get the delay. They are the same phones with the exception of the screen and battery. But you were pretty spot on.
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If I may ask, did anyone here upgrade from the Driod 4. My fiancee has one and it gets much better signal than my S4 does. I didn't realize it until we left to go out of town to a place generally has poor service. Now she has service and I don't. Thanks again.
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1454 said:
If I may ask, did anyone here upgrade from the Driod 4. My fiancee has one and it gets much better signal than my S4 does. I didn't realize it until we left to go out of town to a place generally has poor service. Now she has service and I don't. Thanks again.
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If there is one thing Motorola has always done well...its hardware and radios...
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Is it still worth buying it?

Hey guys, I need your help.
I need a new phone, wnated to buy the Nexus 5, but I think I don't have enough money for it.
So I found the Razr HD and wanted to ask, if it's still worth buying it. Or should i get a Huawei Ascend p6?
Or do u have other recommendations?
Thanks for your help!
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DrRammel said:
Hey guys, I need your help.
I need a new phone, wnated to buy the Nexus 5, but I think I don't have enough money for it.
So I found the Razr HD and wanted to ask, if it's still worth buying it. Or should i get a Huawei Ascend p6?
Or do u have other recommendations?
Thanks for your help!
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Depends on how you want to use it. If you don't care about rooting and possibly unlocking the boot loader, then I guess it's worth it, if it's free. However, you can only root as long as it hasn't had the latest OTA applied to it. You can only unlock the bootloader if it's never taken an OTA after 9.16
Otherwise, I would probably stay away from it. It's a great phone, but it's kind of old. I guess it also depends on what you currently have.
In the end, the problem is it's all a crap shoot on which version of the software you'll get. You just never know what you get. If you do end up getting it, do NOT take any OTAs that it might be suggesting. First, discover what version you have. If you have 9.16 or earlier, then you can unlock the bootlader and I suggest doing that first and foremost. Of course, your warranty is null and void at that point, but most of us don't care anyways.
If it's before 9.30, then you might still be able to at least root it, but you won't be able to unlock the bootloader.
Again, it's all a crap shoot on what version you'll get. I got my phone a few months back as a warranty replacement for my OG Droid RAZR MAXX. I got lucky that it came with 9.16 and I was able to unlock the bootloader. But, I was lucky. Others have gotten it with the latest OTA which pretty much screws them over from being able to root and unlock the bootloader. Others, like me, have gotten lucky.
Heck, I didn't even know I was getting an HD until it arrived. The first thing I did was fire it up, saw it had an OTA available and I promptly said no to it. I then went to all my usual forum haunts to research the phone and see if root was available. Was I ever happy to see I could potentially unlock the bootloader! Even happier when I was able to do so.
Considering he's talking about the Nexus 5, I don't think the bootloader is going to be an issue. Only the Verizon Razr HD's were affected by that.
Second, its still a great phone. The version of Jelly Bean it has now is sluggish unless you use Nova, but I'm assuming once it gets the Kit Kat update (which Motorola has promised for all variants) it'll be fine. I'd get it again if I were to choose, even though the Nexus is obviously a better phone. This is because it'll soon have Kit Kat, and the battery life is much better than that of the Nexus.
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OP, you should tell us what Verizon (if that is your carrier) is offering you so we can help you choose. Off-contract? Two year renewal? What's going on?
As for the phone, you can do better. I have a Razr HD and while I love it, I'm starting to get feelings of exclusion because this phone was released late 2012. It is now 2014, and the Android world is learning to sprint away from old hardware. What I would suggest is the Moto X. It's like Verizon's apology for being the only carrier that doesn't have the Nexus 5.
As for "free," don't get your hopes up. With you looking at the Razr HD, I'm guessing your carrier is Verizon. They might be offering a phone for $0 or $.99, but there is always more money they need from you. Activation fee, renewal fee, so on. I don't want to discourage you from getting a nice new phone, but be realistic about costs. The worst of it is getting your hands on the phone, the rest is just budgeting the bills.
Anyways, I ultimately recommend getting the Moto X over the Nexus or the Razr HD. It would be around $130 total after the fees; my roommate just got his ordered two days ago off a two-year renewal. After the $50 mail-in rebate, it will reduce his cost in the end. Roughly $80 for a Moto X.
Maybe you should by a Moto G. I have two of it. The Moto G is a great phone and costs not too much.
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DrRammel said:
Hey guys, I need your help.
I need a new phone, wnated to buy the Nexus 5, but I think I don't have enough money for it.
So I found the Razr HD and wanted to ask, if it's still worth buying it. Or should i get a Huawei Ascend p6?
Or do u have other recommendations?
Thanks for your help!
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I think you should buy it. I have one for 1 year now and bought another new one few days ago at bargain price. It's still one of the best phones overall and + it will get updated to KitKat. Quality and looks is still unfathomable for other manufacturers. Performance and battery is excellent.
And you can unlock bootloader and fool around with custom roms which work great BTW.
Don't buy that chinese trash... :victory:
I'd say it's still worth it as I just got my RAZR HD 1.5 weeks ago in trade for my Note 2
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Depending on the price I would still recommend buying an XT925. It's a good phone which will get KitKat and it can still do all you want. In it's price range I think still one of the best out there.
Now that root has been achieved on the latest OTA (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758), I'd say this is possibly more worth it than it was before root was achieved.
I don't know if would buy it with moto get being a sweet deal now. However the RAZR is great. I really like mine and see no reason to change it for a new in the foreseeable future. It's has many merits where it really counts. Eg battery life and build quality.
I just got my Razr HD a couple weeks ago in exchange for my Note II and it's definitely a worthy device still. With the stock battery life I'm getting and switching over to Nova Launcher I see no need to root and I can just run 4.1.2 until such time that we get 4.4 and I'm happy.
still a great device to use..
♦ has kitkat support and i'm sure will get future update through cm too.
♦ still runs latest games pretty smooth !
♦ beats most of the mid-high end smartphones out there in terms of battery life.
♦ has a superb build quality.
so why not ?
If the price is right go for it, it's a great phone.
I got my Razr Maxx HD via Swappa about a 10 months ago and it's the same as the Razr HD with a bigger battery.
I love my Razr, it's rooted, unlocked boot loader, no VZW bloat, running CM 11 (4.4.2)

[Q] Going to Verizon... Which phone should I get?

Title says it all. I am switching to Verizon this week and am wondering which phone I should get. I am thinking the s5 but just want to see if there is something I am missing that they may have out that AT&T doesn't or if there is something releasing very soon worth waiting for.
Thanks!
Sonick42 said:
Title says it all. I am switching to Verizon this week and am wondering which phone I should get. I am thinking the s5 but just want to see if there is something I am missing that they may have out that AT&T doesn't or if there is something releasing very soon worth waiting for.
Thanks!
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if the moto x is still there i would Grab that, im in love with mine and have always loved my motorola line (OG Droid 1/OG Droid 2/ Droid X/ Droid Razer) for performance but not (for verizon also) for the locked bootloaders and terrible time with trying to root them and such. note if you are gonna root the moto x it does not have complete root i think and will only work on 4.4.3 and under. we are currently updated to 4.4.4. the moto x is a great phone even though its specs are last years (free on a 2 year contract which i got in may) it still BLOWS AWAY Games and the performance is Great. the only bad thing i can say about it is the battery life is a little on the low side but can last you about a day or two with mild use. also for some reason i get photos from people late. other than that its a great phone, but if you are for developing and looking to root/flash roms on it please get a different carrier other than Verizon or AT&T, they lock their bootloaders.

Can't decide what phone to get next

So I have a Galaxy S4 I've had for a year (before that I had the S3) with Verizon and I'm really tired of this locked bootloader crap. I'm kind of on a budget, so I could use some advice.
I really just want a phone that's as close to stock as possible and can be easily rooted/flashed. So, ideally a Nexus 5 or 6. I also saw HTC phones and Motorola phones on Verizon's web site, but I don't know if those phones are locked or not.
I would like to trade in my old phone and sign up for a contact as leverage, as I can't afford paying too much. Any advice would be appreciated.
On a budget, get a used phone from last year off eBay or here on Swappa, and you won't even have to re-up your contract. HTC M7, LG G2, Moto X (especially Developer Edition), one of the Droids. They should all be rootable, but I can't speak individually for unlocked bootloaders.
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For budget phones, you can pay some attention to China phones like Huawei, ZTE, XiaoMi, THL, ZOPO, Doogge and more. They are some China brands recommended. How do you think? I myself prefer Huawei phones.
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None of those will work on Verizon in the USA.
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On a budget, get a used phone from last year off eBay or here on Swappa, and you won't even have to re-up your contract. HTC M7, LG G2, Moto X (especially Developer Edition), one of the Droids. They should all be rootable, but I can't speak individually for unlocked bootloaders.
None of those will work on Verizon in the USA.
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Thanks for the recommendation I'll check it out. I'm most interested in Nexus, HTC, LG, or Moto. Would I be able to trade in my S4 for some value?
I suggest you to go for HTC M8. This device is really stylish.
This device
1. Feels nicer to hold.
2. Knock on feature.
3. seems faster
4. Takes a micro sd card.
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I suggest you to go for HTC M8. This device is really stylish.
This device
1. Feels nicer to hold.
2. Knock on feature.
3. seems faster
4. Takes a micro sd card.
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The problem with HTC M8 is the camera, otherwise would be a great choice. I have the oneplus one and I am really happy.
marbertshere said:
So I have a Galaxy S4 I've had for a year (before that I had the S3) with Verizon and I'm really tired of this locked bootloader crap. I'm kind of on a budget, so I could use some advice.
I really just want a phone that's as close to stock as possible and can be easily rooted/flashed. So, ideally a Nexus 5 or 6. I also saw HTC phones and Motorola phones on Verizon's web site, but I don't know if those phones are locked or not.
I would like to trade in my old phone and sign up for a contact as leverage, as I can't afford paying too much. Any advice would be appreciated.
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you can have a contract plan ,then cellphones is relatively cheaper .as for online shopping ,
you need to ask them for details if their cellphones are unclocked or not to avoid any
trouble .
Oneplus one...had some invites...all shared ;p
+1 for OnePlus One, great phone for cheap price.
People say the nexus has terrible battery life, so accordong to this, I wouldn't recommend you to buy one. I'd recommend you to buy a moto g though, since it's actually a smaller version of a nexus, and allegedly has better battery life, but more of that I'd recommend either an htc one m8 or an lg g3, if your wallet can handle the price. Now, about off-contract, I'd suggest the oneplus one, because it's a flagship killer and it's relatively cheap, as said above.
I recommend the LG G3...the bootloader can be sort of unlocked via Bump, but the LG Rom is pretty close to stock, doesnt add too much extras. It has a great camera and awesome screen, SD Card and removable 3000mAh battery. It's a nice phone! I will agree that Nexus phones have very poor battery life, but you can install just about anything on them in terms of ROMs. If sticking with GSM, the OnePlus One is nice too but I'm not sure where that company is going with CyanogenMod and OnePlus on the fritz. They will probably have to develop their own rom in the future, unless you want to load the CyanogenMod version, which you can do that too. Moto X phones are good, battery life would still be my concern, but its as close as stock as you can get besides nexus.
I'm probably going to look at the MotoX or droid Turbo.. I'll check out the OPO. I guess I have some hw to do. I'm using Verizon's edge plan, and I don't think that's a traditional contract. I also need to look at and see what kind of development is going on for each of these devices.
People mentioned eBay and Amazon.. Are there any sites that are specifically for buying/trading used phones?
marbertshere said:
I'm probably going to look at the MotoX or droid Turbo.. I'll check out the OPO. I guess I have some hw to do. I'm using Verizon's edge plan, and I don't think that's a traditional contract. I also need to look at and see what kind of development is going on for each of these devices.
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OnePlus One won't work on Verizon's CDMA network.
People mentioned eBay and Amazon.. Are there any sites that are specifically for buying/trading used phones?
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At the top of the forum page, there's a link for Swappa, XDA's own marketplace.
Go here for help deciding your next phone : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1846277
balx96 said:
The problem with HTC M8 is the camera, otherwise would be a great choice. I have the oneplus one and I am really happy.
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I agree with you. I have also noticed that the camera quality of HTC devices is relatively low than Samsung devices.

Still happy with your Dev Edition or have you moved on?

So what is it? Are you still using and loving your Dev Edition S5 or have you moved on to something else?
sem1845 said:
So what is it? Are you still using and loving your Dev Edition S5 or have you moved on to something else?
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Still rocking the Dev. Ed. S5, but honestly this is going to be my last Android on Verizon. I need my Android phones to be open and to get rapid security updates, so my next Android phone will be a Nexus device on Tmobile. I will keep my Verizon line but park, gasp, an iPhone on it.
timeToy said:
Still rocking the Dev. Ed. S5, but honestly this is going to be my last Android on Verizon. I need my Android phones to be open and to get rapid security updates, so my next Android phone will be a Nexus device on Tmobile. I will keep my Verizon line but park, gasp, an iPhone on it.
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I went the Nexus 6 route but stuck with Verizon and my unlimited data plan :good:
I'm still on my dev edition but seriously looking at the 2015 nexus 5 from LG (the 6" device from Huwei doesn't interest me, I've got a Note 4 that I don't use because it's too damn big, same issue with the iphone 6+ that's also an option through work). Since the LG will be based on the one of the SD808/810/820 there will probably be a Verizon version available since it's trivial to add VZW support with those chipsets. The other option I'm looking at is the upcoming Sony z4v if they allow unlock of the bootloader, but it will probably have as many issues as the S5 with updates so the Nexus is the frontrunner on that front (the SD card slot, Qi charging, and waterproof construction are pluses for the z4v)
I was wondering since google will release a security system update for android that allows hackers to get to ur phone by texting if I can call sammy tech support and have them upgrade my phone to that updated system and still keep it dev
I'm not on a Dev edition, but this will be my last Samsung phone as many others have said. I'm going to try to get the Nexus 6 2015 as soon as it comes out. Tired of the locked up phone by Verizon and Samsung, and having to debloat every update.
timeToy said:
Still rocking the Dev. Ed. S5, but honestly this is going to be my last Android on Verizon. I need my Android phones to be open and to get rapid security updates, so my next Android phone will be a Nexus device on Tmobile. I will keep my Verizon line but park, gasp, an iPhone on it.
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Having a Nexus on Verizon would be open as well... Google wouldn't allow Verizon to lock their phone. And the updates come straight from Google. Notice that there's no segregation in the nexus forum between carriers.
sem1845 said:
I went the Nexus 6 route but stuck with Verizon and my unlimited data plan :good:
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Didn't want to wait for the 2015 Nexus 6?
afidel said:
I'm still on my dev edition but seriously looking at the 2015 nexus 5 from LG (the 6" device from Huwei doesn't interest me, I've got a Note 4 that I don't use because it's too damn big, same issue with the iphone 6+ that's also an option through work). Since the LG will be based on the one of the SD808/810/820 there will probably be a Verizon version available since it's trivial to add VZW support with those chipsets. The other option I'm looking at is the upcoming Sony z4v if they allow unlock of the bootloader, but it will probably have as many issues as the S5 with updates so the Nexus is the frontrunner on that front (the SD card slot, Qi charging, and waterproof construction are pluses for the z4v)
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There's no reason for Google to exclude the phone from Verizon, but the last time they made it, only phones purchased from Verizon or the Google Play store could be used on the Verizon network. Not sure if they changed that later.
razzrmaxx said:
I was wondering since google will release a security system update for android that allows hackers to get to ur phone by texting if I can call sammy tech support and have them upgrade my phone to that updated system and still keep it dev
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Stagefright? There's already a patch for that, but not sure if you'll keep dev edition. I'm waiting for them to make it so we can update it and keep root.
Spartan117H3 said:
Didn't want to wait for the 2015 Nexus 6?
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A few months ago when I bought the 6, the new Nexus devices were a distant thought. I'm not sure the newer ones will be that much of an improvement over the current 6. Although, I did love the fingerprint sensor on the S5 with LastPass enabled!
sem1845 said:
A few months ago when I bought the 6, the new Nexus devices were a distant thought. I'm not sure the newer ones will be that much of an improvement over the current 6. Although, I did love the fingerprint sensor on the S5 with LastPass enabled!
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Ah, a few months ago, I understand. I'm impatiently waiting for the new 6. I never liked Motorola's build quality after bad personal experiences with any of their phones.
The differences are:
2014
6" screen
2k res
13mp camera
3GB ram
Quad Core Snapdragon 805
3220 mAh Li-Po
2015
5.7" screen
2k res (rumored sAmoled display)
21 mp camera
3-4GB ram (probably 4GB)
Octa Core Snapdragon 810 or 820 (Rumor says 820 still has overheat issues)
3500 mAh battery
Aluminum body/fingerprint scanner on back
USB type C (hopefully USB 3.1 as well, or it would be a bit redundant).
I'm mostly looking forward to the new USB 3.1 standard and more ram over the S5. Everything else isn't that interesting. I'm not sure how I'll like the fingerprint scanner being on the back, I'm sure I'll need to get used to that.
Dev. Ed. S5 soldier on with OG5: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/general/g900vvru2bog5-factoryodintarimage-t3179527
afidel said:
I'm still on my dev edition but seriously looking at the 2015 nexus 5 from LG (the 6" device from Huwei doesn't interest me, I've got a Note 4 that I don't use because it's too damn big, same issue with the iphone 6+ that's also an option through work). Since the LG will be based on the one of the SD808/810/820 there will probably be a Verizon version available since it's trivial to add VZW support with those chipsets. The other option I'm looking at is the upcoming Sony z4v if they allow unlock of the bootloader, but it will probably have as many issues as the S5 with updates so the Nexus is the frontrunner on that front (the SD card slot, Qi charging, and waterproof construction are pluses for the z4v)
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