Is it still worth buying it? - RAZR HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey guys, I need your help.
I need a new phone, wnated to buy the Nexus 5, but I think I don't have enough money for it.
So I found the Razr HD and wanted to ask, if it's still worth buying it. Or should i get a Huawei Ascend p6?
Or do u have other recommendations?
Thanks for your help!
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DrRammel said:
Hey guys, I need your help.
I need a new phone, wnated to buy the Nexus 5, but I think I don't have enough money for it.
So I found the Razr HD and wanted to ask, if it's still worth buying it. Or should i get a Huawei Ascend p6?
Or do u have other recommendations?
Thanks for your help!
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Depends on how you want to use it. If you don't care about rooting and possibly unlocking the boot loader, then I guess it's worth it, if it's free. However, you can only root as long as it hasn't had the latest OTA applied to it. You can only unlock the bootloader if it's never taken an OTA after 9.16
Otherwise, I would probably stay away from it. It's a great phone, but it's kind of old. I guess it also depends on what you currently have.
In the end, the problem is it's all a crap shoot on which version of the software you'll get. You just never know what you get. If you do end up getting it, do NOT take any OTAs that it might be suggesting. First, discover what version you have. If you have 9.16 or earlier, then you can unlock the bootlader and I suggest doing that first and foremost. Of course, your warranty is null and void at that point, but most of us don't care anyways.
If it's before 9.30, then you might still be able to at least root it, but you won't be able to unlock the bootloader.
Again, it's all a crap shoot on what version you'll get. I got my phone a few months back as a warranty replacement for my OG Droid RAZR MAXX. I got lucky that it came with 9.16 and I was able to unlock the bootloader. But, I was lucky. Others have gotten it with the latest OTA which pretty much screws them over from being able to root and unlock the bootloader. Others, like me, have gotten lucky.
Heck, I didn't even know I was getting an HD until it arrived. The first thing I did was fire it up, saw it had an OTA available and I promptly said no to it. I then went to all my usual forum haunts to research the phone and see if root was available. Was I ever happy to see I could potentially unlock the bootloader! Even happier when I was able to do so.

Considering he's talking about the Nexus 5, I don't think the bootloader is going to be an issue. Only the Verizon Razr HD's were affected by that.
Second, its still a great phone. The version of Jelly Bean it has now is sluggish unless you use Nova, but I'm assuming once it gets the Kit Kat update (which Motorola has promised for all variants) it'll be fine. I'd get it again if I were to choose, even though the Nexus is obviously a better phone. This is because it'll soon have Kit Kat, and the battery life is much better than that of the Nexus.
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OP, you should tell us what Verizon (if that is your carrier) is offering you so we can help you choose. Off-contract? Two year renewal? What's going on?
As for the phone, you can do better. I have a Razr HD and while I love it, I'm starting to get feelings of exclusion because this phone was released late 2012. It is now 2014, and the Android world is learning to sprint away from old hardware. What I would suggest is the Moto X. It's like Verizon's apology for being the only carrier that doesn't have the Nexus 5.
As for "free," don't get your hopes up. With you looking at the Razr HD, I'm guessing your carrier is Verizon. They might be offering a phone for $0 or $.99, but there is always more money they need from you. Activation fee, renewal fee, so on. I don't want to discourage you from getting a nice new phone, but be realistic about costs. The worst of it is getting your hands on the phone, the rest is just budgeting the bills.
Anyways, I ultimately recommend getting the Moto X over the Nexus or the Razr HD. It would be around $130 total after the fees; my roommate just got his ordered two days ago off a two-year renewal. After the $50 mail-in rebate, it will reduce his cost in the end. Roughly $80 for a Moto X.

Maybe you should by a Moto G. I have two of it. The Moto G is a great phone and costs not too much.
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DrRammel said:
Hey guys, I need your help.
I need a new phone, wnated to buy the Nexus 5, but I think I don't have enough money for it.
So I found the Razr HD and wanted to ask, if it's still worth buying it. Or should i get a Huawei Ascend p6?
Or do u have other recommendations?
Thanks for your help!
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I think you should buy it. I have one for 1 year now and bought another new one few days ago at bargain price. It's still one of the best phones overall and + it will get updated to KitKat. Quality and looks is still unfathomable for other manufacturers. Performance and battery is excellent.
And you can unlock bootloader and fool around with custom roms which work great BTW.
Don't buy that chinese trash... :victory:

I'd say it's still worth it as I just got my RAZR HD 1.5 weeks ago in trade for my Note 2
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Depending on the price I would still recommend buying an XT925. It's a good phone which will get KitKat and it can still do all you want. In it's price range I think still one of the best out there.

Now that root has been achieved on the latest OTA (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758), I'd say this is possibly more worth it than it was before root was achieved.

I don't know if would buy it with moto get being a sweet deal now. However the RAZR is great. I really like mine and see no reason to change it for a new in the foreseeable future. It's has many merits where it really counts. Eg battery life and build quality.

I just got my Razr HD a couple weeks ago in exchange for my Note II and it's definitely a worthy device still. With the stock battery life I'm getting and switching over to Nova Launcher I see no need to root and I can just run 4.1.2 until such time that we get 4.4 and I'm happy.

still a great device to use..
♦ has kitkat support and i'm sure will get future update through cm too.
♦ still runs latest games pretty smooth !
♦ beats most of the mid-high end smartphones out there in terms of battery life.
♦ has a superb build quality.
so why not ?

If the price is right go for it, it's a great phone.
I got my Razr Maxx HD via Swappa about a 10 months ago and it's the same as the Razr HD with a bigger battery.
I love my Razr, it's rooted, unlocked boot loader, no VZW bloat, running CM 11 (4.4.2)

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Trading 2.20 One X for one with 1.85

I was hesitant to hijack a similar thread about finding a 1.85 One X, so I figured I'd ask separately. I've found a couple One X's on Craigslist, and at least one new-in-box running 1.85. However, the guy selling it wants $100 on top of trading him my phone (a couple days old, running 2.20). I tried offering $50, but he's solid at $100.
Was just wondering, since I'm newer to these boards than most (and to the rooting procedure for Androids)... would it be worth it to trade the phone and $100 to get one I know I could root? Warranty-wise I should be okay, as someone stated elsewhere that the phone's protected for a year with HTC regardless (though I'm assuming AT&T would no longer cover my phone in case something breaks?). Just trying to weigh out if it's worth the extra cash to be able to root this otherwise fan-frigging-tastic cell phone, or if I'd be better off waiting to see if either HTC/AT&T throws us a bone or someone finds a loophole.
Apologies if asking for a purchasing opinion like this makes me a gigantic asshole, but otherwise, thanks for the input.
I would never do that
But if your willing to pay that.much for root then go for it
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That's just too much. I was able to sell mine and buy a new one with 1.85 on the same day for the same price I sold it. Just be patient and wait for the right deal.
HOX on craiglist are selling for around $300.00.
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eortizr said:
That's just too much. I was able to sell mine and buy a new one with 1.85 on the same day for the same price I sold it. Just be patient and wait for the right deal.
HOX on craiglist are selling for around $300.00.
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Thanks, yeah. Thinking I was letting myself get a little root crazy. Just sucks to see such a sweet device begging for root. Ah well, I'm sure patience will be rewarded.
Whether its worth it or not completely depends on how much that extra $100 means to you, and how much rooting (and unlocking the bootloader if you want that) means to you. For some people, $100 may be a perfectly affordable luxury, and it may bring them great joy to mod the phone, play around with custom ROMs, etc.. For others, they may be on more of a budget, or simply not mod the phone enough to justify the expense.
Charging an extra $100 for something that a lot of people want doesn't seem too unreasonable. Especially since its new in box, and yours presumably is not.
Of course, the worst case scenario would be if a root solution (or AT&T allowing the bootloader to be unlocked "officially") right after you make the trade and spend the $100. That would be a real bummer. But not really much of a way of knowing if either is going to happen anytime soon, and how long your are willing to wait.
Coming on here and asking opinions is fine (certainly doesn't make you an a$$hole IMO). But in the end, looking inside yourself is where you are going to find your final answer.
What's the main reason why you want a rooted/unlocked device? If it's for custom ROMS, waiting isn't necessarily a bad thing because right now the 4.1 Sense custom ROMs for US phones are not quite final. If it's free wifi tether, there are a couple apps that don't require root (have not tried them myself though).
$100 is a good amount of cash if you assume that a 2.2 root/unlock is coming eventually. By then, you may even have a Jelly Bean ROM that is fully working so may be worth the wait. I would say enjoy your phone and wait for the 2.2 Root.

Buy Verizon SGS3 for $150, or hold out?

Hey guys,
Is there any reason I should hold out on buying this phone? I can get it from amazonwireless for 150$ and no tax.
Is there any other awesome android phones coming out on verizon this year? Or do you think the price will drop drastically soon (maybe to 99$?)
rpn377 said:
Hey guys,
Is there any reason I should hold out on buying this phone? I can get it from amazonwireless for 150$ and no tax.
Is there any other awesome android phones coming out on verizon this year? Or do you think the price will drop drastically soon (maybe to 99$?)
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There might be some new phones, they just announced the Droid Razr HD and Droid Razr Maxx HD, they might be getting a nexus device but who knows. I doubt the price will drop until maybe next January. I say go for it. Its an awesome phone.
I see no need to hold out. Only thing coming to think about imo is the Razr HD/Maxx HD, but to me neither one is better than the S3
DertyDOH said:
I see no need to hold out. Only thing coming to think about imo is the Razr HD/Maxx HD, but to me neither one is better than the S3
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I noticed the new droids... my sister has a Droid 3. It sucks though, cause she's stuck on gingerbread and it's not a popular phone for customization. From what i read (And experienced), motorola is horrible for tweaking, while samsung is the best with htc in 2nd.
Since this phone has an unlocked bootloader now, and also has GSM radio, that's a big plus for me.
I just don't want this phone to fall another 50$ right after i buy it, especially with iphone 5s coming out soon competing with it.
Do you guys know if there's an even cheaper way to get it other than 150$?
rpn377 said:
I noticed the new droids... my sister has a Droid 3. It sucks though, cause she's stuck on gingerbread and it's not a popular phone for customization. From what i read (And experienced), motorola is horrible for tweaking, while samsung is the best with htc in 2nd.
Since this phone has an unlocked bootloader now, and also has GSM radio, that's a big plus for me.
I just don't want this phone to fall another 50$ right after i buy it, especially with iphone 5s coming out soon competing with it.
Do you guys know if there's an even cheaper way to get it other than 150$?
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Nope i got mine last week for $200 so I'd say your getting a good deal.
@fr8cture return and buy it again! get your $50 back!
@rpn its probably not going to sink any further than $150 with a new contract for a while. The only reasons I can think of holding back is to wait for the 64GB model (which may or may not be sold by verizon)
Whatever you do, make sure you refuse to give up an unlimited data plan if you currently have one! Make sure the salesman knows its a deal breaker (even if its really not)
rpn377 said:
Hey guys,
Is there any reason I should hold out on buying this phone? I can get it from amazonwireless for 150$ and no tax.
Is there any other awesome android phones coming out on verizon this year? Or do you think the price will drop drastically soon (maybe to 99$?)
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With the Note 2 about to be out and the SG4 right around the corner, I'd wait.
chamberc said:
With the Note 2 about to be out and the SG4 right around the corner, I'd wait.
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Are you kidding me with this SG4 crap? Its a good 5 or more months away.
fr8cture said:
Nope i got mine last week for $200 so I'd say your getting a good deal.
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I paid $515 on eBay, so I say you both got good deals lol....that said, I haven't thought twice about paying that price, and doesn't bother me people get it much cheaper on upgrade prices
Is this for the 16 or 32 gig model?
The new Motorola droids are identical to the s3 spec wise. In my opinion Motorola typically has better reception than I have had with the s3. But if you like to mod, there will definitely be a better following with the s3, and aftermarket accessories will be more widely available. The other upside to moto is the amazing battery life of the maxx.
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DertyDOH said:
I paid $515 on eBay, so I say you both got good deals lol....that said, I haven't thought twice about paying that price, and doesn't bother me people get it much cheaper on upgrade prices
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Its because i signed a 2 year
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pakee001 said:
The new Motorola droids are identical to the s3 spec wise. In my opinion Motorola typically has better reception than I have had with the s3. But if you like to mod, there will definitely be a better following with the s3, and aftermarket accessories will be more widely available. The other upside to moto is the amazing battery life of the maxx.
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The new droids do look really appealing. Huge battery nice display and a almost non skinned version of android.
chamberc said:
With the Note 2 about to be out and the SG4 right around the corner, I'd wait.
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You're off your rocker. The GS3 just came out not even 2 months ago. It'll be at least Q2 2013 before we see the GS4. You're a fool to think it's right around the corner.
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You're off your rocker. The GS3 just came out not even 2 months ago. It'll be at least Q2 2013 before we see the GS4. You're a fool to think it's right around the corner.
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Yep I'd be surprised if it came out before October 2013. The reason this was out so soon in my opinion is because the amount of carriers that got it. Everyone threw money as Samsung, so instead of only a few getting it like the GS2, pretty much everyone did this time around.
Also if you want a phone with customization do not buy a Motorola. They already confirmed that developer editions of these phones will be coming out for $500+ . Coming from a X2, no one could unlock that thing.
I think you can wait for a period of time.
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Yep I'd be surprised if it came out before October 2013. The reason this was out so soon in my opinion is because the amount of carriers that got it. Everyone threw money as Samsung, so instead of only a few getting it like the GS2, pretty much everyone did this time around.
Also if you want a phone with customization do not buy a Motorola. They already confirmed that developer editions of these phones will be coming out for $500+ . Coming from a X2, no one could unlock that thing.
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Can't you just root it? Someone would have to find a way to unlock bootloader but still.
SG3 is now $139 on Amazon wireless. I just got one.
What is there to even consider, this is totally a no-brainer... DO IT man!
S3 specs are lightyears away from any phones i foresee coming out in the next 3-4 months.
This is going to be THE phone until its replacement comes out. I would be amazed if we don't see a nexus by the end of the year, but if you are Verizon don't even bother looking at it. And I personally don't think it is worth waiting. The S3 has gotten awesome support and is such an awesome piece of hardware that you won't regret owning it!
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Need advice... time to renew my plan, need to select a new phone

Hi All,
To clarify, I used the search engine but didn't found any response to my question.
I have a Sony Xperia Play R800a and my 18 month contract just expired, my carrier just called me to ask for a renewal, they offered me the MOTOROLA RAZR HD for 200 USD on 18 month contract of 25 USD per month including data.
My question is... is it a good deal?
I was about to pull the trigger on the Galaxy Nexus on google play... but then I heard about Nexus 4 coming and decided to wait for it... after seeing the nexus 4... I was ready to pull the trigger again, but today I got the call from the carrier... and started to have second thoughts on it.
I have compared the Galaxy Nexus, Galaxy S3, Nexus 4, and RAZR HD, so far It seems Nexus 4 seems as the best deal followed closely by the S3... but I hate the non-expandable storage on the Nexus 4 and the price on the S3.
The thing is... if I sign again with my carrier I will save 150 instantly, (also the 200 USD down payment can be paid on a 12 month interest free plan)
Dear XDA member please let me know your feedback on this 18 month long choice... If you can suggest me which device is better for the price and also giving me more options... If there are any...
Thanks for your help.
Hexen2006
I owned the GS3, GNex, and RAZR HD maxx.
Of the 3, I would go with the Razr HD in the end. GNex after that. GS3 last. I can't speak for the Nexus 4, but I can't see it being that different than the GNex besides a respectable hardware buff since the GNex will get AOSP 4.2 in the near future.
Stock firmware on the S3 is complete crap IMO. A bunch of useless fluff and bloat, just flat out crappy. The hardware is nice, however.
GNex is great simply because it's stock AOSP. I'm assuming I don't need to explain why that's a good thing.
Razr HD is really impressive. ALMOST stock android, but not quite. The "Blur" intrusion is very much reduced compared to my previous motorola device (original Atrix 4G). Really the only major motorola influence I see are the stock mail app (not gmail), the settings menu, gallery, camera, and a widget or two. The dialer is a a bit different than AOSP but I can live with it.
Sure, most GS3s have an unlockable bootloader, but in my experiences most of the roms are plagued by bugs, however few and unobtrusive they may be. I've never ran a custom rom that just worked perfectly. And lets be honest, none of them provide any breakthrough features above and beyond the stock-from-google AOSP you get from a pure nexus device. Just my opinion.
If I could, I would run with the Nexus 4. But the lack of LTE was the big deal breaker for me. I won't get timely updates (ever?) on my RAZR HD. But that's ok. I've lost most interest in flashing custom ROMS and now I just want a smooth running device that works and I'm very happy with the RAZR HD.
I'll be the first to flop down $$$ for the next LTE Nexus device when it comes out, however.
Frankly all the devices you listed are great in their own right. Really it all comes down to your preferences. Fan of pure google AOSP? GO with Nexus. Like flashing custom ROMS? Nexus or GS3 are both good. Expandable storage? Removable battery? LTE? Just figure out the most important must-have features you require in a device and go with it.
Thanks holtenc,
I just checked with my carrier today, and apparently the RAZR HD is my only "real" option.
I asked about the Gnex, because I wanted to try "pure" android, but they told me they are low in stock and that Samsung will not replenish their inventory (maybe because of the Nexus 4 they have started to fade the Gnex out) but that if I really want one I should pay 550 USD and sign a 2 year contract... That definitely take the Gnex out of budget.
About the Galaxy S3, I need to pay 650 USD and a 18 month contract.... so same al Gnex... out of budget.
About Nexus 4, they don't have it on stock yet... it may take some time, but they told me he will be priced similar to Gnex. :S
I live in Mexico and we are not allowed to purchase devices on the google play store, so I tried the US store (using a VPN) and it is out of stock :S...
I guess the universe is pushing me to get the RAZR HD
Thanks
Have you tried places like swappa?
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nope, never heard of it... I will look at it... thanks for de advice!
Cool. I was on last week looking at GNexs and they had some for $200-350 U.S.
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Remember that if you upgrade with the discounted price, you will lose unlimited data if you had it, in case you are concerned about that.
I just bought the Razr Maxx HD and I am digging the phone so far. I have charged it once in the last 3 days with battery to spare. I had the Galaxy S3 but exchanged it for the Maxx HD. The GS3 felt more like a toy rather than something that I would carry with me everyday. The glossy and rounded form just wasn't my thing. The Maxx HD feels like a real phone and the UI is as close to AOSP (which you will get on the Nexus) as you are going to get from any other phone. Its sort of like holding a real handgun after playing with a water pistol. Touchwiz (Samsung) and Sense (HTC) are bloated and ugly.
Good luck with your decision.

Maxx vs X pre purchase questions.

I am wondering if the maxx is worth getting over the x. I ask because I know the x is already on 4.4 and I don't know if the x on vzw is locked like every other phone. I know this one is, so I doubt there are or will be any ports to speed up the process of updates. So is it worth it to get the maxx for the battery life and wireless charging or just go with the X. Just wanted to get some owners thoughts. Thanks.
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I am wondering if the maxx is worth getting over the x. I ask because I know the x is already on 4.4 and I don't know if the x on vzw is locked like every other phone. I know this one is, so I doubt there are or will be any ports to speed up the process of updates. So is it worth it to get the maxx for the battery life and wireless charging or just go with the X. Just wanted to get some owners thoughts. Thanks.
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I thought so but comes down to individual opinion or preference. Yes, they both are locked since Verizon mandates it be so. The only unlocked ones will be the developer editions bought off contract. I would suggest demoing them in a Verizon store to see the difference first hand then.
opt05 said:
I thought so but comes down to individual opinion or preference. Yes, they both are locked since Verizon mandates it be so. The only unlocked ones will be the developer editions bought off contract. I would suggest demoing them in a Verizon store to see the difference first hand then.
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I guess that is the vzw way. So i can't really expect much else. I guess the main thing I'm wondering about is the speed of updates compared with the X since I guess there won't be much in the way of development for the maxx. Or so I assume based on previous experiences with locked bootloaders.
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I have both. My X is a locked VZW one and my Maxx is the VZW dev edition. Supposedly the ultra/maxx is getting 4.4 soon so the update speed will probably be comparable to the X since both are so similar. I love the form of the X and the battery life on the Maxx. If I had to choose between the two, I'd have to go for the Maxx. I just love not having to charge it for two days and aside from the form, it's basically an X with better battery life.
stonesaber said:
I have both. My X is a locked VZW one and my Maxx is the VZW dev edition. Supposedly the ultra/maxx is getting 4.4 soon so the update speed will probably be comparable to the X since both are so similar. I love the form of the X and the battery life on the Maxx. If I had to choose between the two, I'd have to go for the Maxx. I just love not having to charge it for two days and aside from the form, it's basically an X with better battery life.
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the Ultra/Maxx has been running about 2 weeks behind the X in updates. Definitely more development for the X even the locked ones than the Ultra/Maxx but, imho, the stock ROM is pretty close to vanilla android and is very, very fluid and smooth.
I love my Maxx, and while I cant wait for kit kat, I do not regret getting the Maxx over the x. especially since I was able to get best buy to price match Radio Shack on the maxx down to the same price the x was going for.
The locked bootloader hardly matters to me, the stock software is buttery smooth. Just top it with root, and sprinkle some xposed framework to taste. No kitchen needed!
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The locked bootloader hardly matters to me, the stock software is buttery smooth. Just top it with root, and sprinkle some xposed framework to taste. No kitchen needed!
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The big problem with locked bootloaders is that you need to wait for an exploit to get root. Or, you need to stay on old versions. The problem is, as a user, you really do want to have those root exploits patched. If you care about security, that is.
I have a Maxx. Like stonesaber, I really like the form factor of the Moto X, but I really wanted the longest battery life I could get. That ultimately took precedence. Wireless charging is a nice add-on feature, too, but that didn't factor into my decision at all. If for some reason you don't care that much about battery life, I think the Moto X is the right choice.
The Droid lineup should stay relatively up-to-date thanks to being so similar to the Moto X. But, it's a little disappointing that we're 2 weeks out from the Verizon Moto X kitkat OTA and we don't even have an active soak test going on (these aren't publicized, but the news always leaks).
BladeRunner said:
the Ultra/Maxx has been running about 2 weeks behind the X in updates. Definitely more development for the X even the locked ones than the Ultra/Maxx but, imho, the stock ROM is pretty close to vanilla android and is very, very fluid and smooth.
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Teksu said:
I love my Maxx, and while I cant wait for kit kat, I do not regret getting the Maxx over the x. especially since I was able to get best buy to price match Radio Shack on the maxx down to the same price the x was going for.
The locked bootloader hardly matters to me, the stock software is buttery smooth. Just top it with root, and sprinkle some xposed framework to taste. No kitchen needed!
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It will be nice to get 4.4 on the MAXX, but it's honestly almost perfect as is. If it had a slightly better camera, it would be flawless. Even completely stock, non-rooted. This is my first phone I haven't rooted, and I've been with Android since the ADP1.
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The Droid lineup should stay relatively up-to-date thanks to being so similar to the Moto X. But, it's a little disappointing that we're 2 weeks out from the Verizon Moto X kitkat OTA and we don't even have an active soak test going on (these aren't publicized, but the news always leaks).
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The latest droid OTA was about 4-5 weeks behind the first Moto X OTA (ignore the fact that it was 2 weeks behind the VZW update - Verizon was early with the KK update), and I am sure that Moto was pretty much shut down last week for Thanksgiving, so that's a lost week. There are still Moto X 4.4 updates that have not been done. Also, when they announced the Moto G a few weeks ago with 4.3 they announced that the G would get 4.4 by January. My guess is that they may be working on getting that done before the Droids. So, if we're lucky, we see soak test rumors in a couple of weeks, to as long as month after that.
I guess we'll see, though.
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The latest droid OTA was about 4-5 weeks behind the first Moto X OTA (ignore the fact that it was 2 weeks behind the VZW update - Verizon was early with the KK update), and I am sure that Moto was pretty much shut down last week for Thanksgiving, so that's a lost week. There are still Moto X 4.4 updates that have not been done. Also, when they announced the Moto G a few weeks ago with 4.3 they announced that the G would get 4.4 by January. My guess is that they may be working on getting that done before the Droids. So, if we're lucky, we see soak test rumors in a couple of weeks, to as long as month after that.
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I'll be really disappointed if we end up with update more than about a month behind VZW's Moto X...
I guess I've generally assumed Verizon has been the slow party when it comes to software updates. Given how close the Moto X is to the Droid lineup, I initially assumed (probably incorrectly) Motorola would deliver Droid updates to VZW at about the same time as the Moto X update. I assumed the delay was largely due to VZW only wanting to focus their testing on one device at a time.
Given the speed of the VZW Moto X update, now I'm really thinking Motorola is holding up the show.
I'm finding this a little troubling. When I assumed Motorola basically would/could create Droid updates with Moto X updates, I felt pretty confident that as long as the Moto X lineup is getting updates, we'd get updates. I'm less convinced that's going to be the case now. Motorola doesn't really care about the Droid lineup- the Moto X is their baby.
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I'll be really disappointed if we end up with update more than about a month behind VZW's Moto X...
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Even if it's a month behind, it will likely be before any other non-Google phone. So far, only the X, the Nexus devices, and the Google experience phones have KitKat. If that's the experience going forward, I'll be very pleased. (That said, I am sure that when Moto releases an update to X, and updates to the Droids, sometime next year, our updates come later, just as the Razr HD series will get KK updates after these Droids. So it goes...)
I guess I've generally assumed Verizon has been the slow party when it comes to software updates. Given how close the Moto X is to the Droid lineup, I initially assumed (probably incorrectly) Motorola would deliver Droid updates to VZW at about the same time as the Moto X update. I assumed the delay was largely due to VZW only wanting to focus their testing on one device at a time.
Given the speed of the VZW Moto X update, now I'm really thinking Motorola is holding up the show.
I'm finding this a little troubling. When I assumed Motorola basically would/could create Droid updates with Moto X updates, I felt pretty confident that as long as the Moto X lineup is getting updates, we'd get updates. I'm less convinced that's going to be the case now. Motorola doesn't really care about the Droid lineup- the Moto X is their baby.
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Yes, Moto X is their baby, and all of those updates are not yet done (I think I read that Sprint is sending out soak test emails today.) Now maybe the Moto G bumps the Droids, too, though we'll see. However, both Motorola and Verizon have said that they will do a much better job on timely updates. Motorola said this when they released their first phones post-Google acquisition (the new Droids and the X) and Verizon said so at, I believe, the Droid release event last summer. So far that's looking right. So, yes, I think that Motorola really does care about the Droids. However, the X is the phone that *they* sell and that is the basis for their reputation. It's simply a no-brainer that they will pay attention to that phone before the Droids.
The Maxx is a great phone on Jellybean. Looking at the Moto X boards, it seems there are some bugs on KitKat at the moment. Maybe it's good that we're, um, "late".
I love this phone, like so much. The battery life is incredible
Love that it wakes up when I pull out out of my pocket (works great if you have a double tap to turn off the screen when you're done. Power button is barely used)
Touchless control is amazing.
Coming from the note 3 to the LG G2, I'm incredibly happy with this phone
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Its a preference issue. If you like a long battery life then the maxx is for you. I was shocked today when I spent 10 hours at a concert on my phone making calls recording video updating my sites etc. I was in the middle of a crowd and the bags of water that people are wrecked my reception, but after the show I had 48% left. The phone was actually warm in my pocket most of the time because of the reception.
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Thanks all for the responses. Can I ask what kinds of normal screen on time you guys are getting?
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I get a good 6 hrs. and thats of good constant use... i'd imagine if you just use your phone sporadically through the day, it'd get alot more.
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Thanks all for the responses. Can I ask what kinds of normal screen on time you guys are getting?
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Yesterday, after 15 hours off charger, I had 4 hours of screen on time and was still at 45%, and a good chunk of that screen on time was playing games.
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The latest droid OTA was about 4-5 weeks behind the first Moto X OTA (ignore the fact that it was 2 weeks behind the VZW update - Verizon was early with the KK update), and I am sure that Moto was pretty much shut down last week for Thanksgiving, so that's a lost week. There are still Moto X 4.4 updates that have not been done. Also, when they announced the Moto G a few weeks ago with 4.3 they announced that the G would get 4.4 by January. My guess is that they may be working on getting that done before the Droids. So, if we're lucky, we see soak test rumors in a couple of weeks, to as long as month after that.
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Sorry to quote myself, but it looks like this is a reliable indicator for updates - when the X gets its first update, the Droids are about 4-6 weeks behind. The X first got the update November 19, the Droids started December 19. I'm fine with that. (Let's hope that future updates don't brick stock phones, though.)
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Sorry to quote myself, but it looks like this is a reliable indicator for updates - when the X gets its first update, the Droids are about 4-6 weeks behind. The X first got the update November 19, the Droids started December 19. I'm fine with that. (Let's hope that future updates don't brick stock phones, though.)
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I just don't get the delay. They are the same phones with the exception of the screen and battery. But you were pretty spot on.
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If I may ask, did anyone here upgrade from the Driod 4. My fiancee has one and it gets much better signal than my S4 does. I didn't realize it until we left to go out of town to a place generally has poor service. Now she has service and I don't. Thanks again.
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1454 said:
If I may ask, did anyone here upgrade from the Driod 4. My fiancee has one and it gets much better signal than my S4 does. I didn't realize it until we left to go out of town to a place generally has poor service. Now she has service and I don't. Thanks again.
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If there is one thing Motorola has always done well...its hardware and radios...
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[Q] Going to Verizon... Which phone should I get?

Title says it all. I am switching to Verizon this week and am wondering which phone I should get. I am thinking the s5 but just want to see if there is something I am missing that they may have out that AT&T doesn't or if there is something releasing very soon worth waiting for.
Thanks!
Sonick42 said:
Title says it all. I am switching to Verizon this week and am wondering which phone I should get. I am thinking the s5 but just want to see if there is something I am missing that they may have out that AT&T doesn't or if there is something releasing very soon worth waiting for.
Thanks!
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if the moto x is still there i would Grab that, im in love with mine and have always loved my motorola line (OG Droid 1/OG Droid 2/ Droid X/ Droid Razer) for performance but not (for verizon also) for the locked bootloaders and terrible time with trying to root them and such. note if you are gonna root the moto x it does not have complete root i think and will only work on 4.4.3 and under. we are currently updated to 4.4.4. the moto x is a great phone even though its specs are last years (free on a 2 year contract which i got in may) it still BLOWS AWAY Games and the performance is Great. the only bad thing i can say about it is the battery life is a little on the low side but can last you about a day or two with mild use. also for some reason i get photos from people late. other than that its a great phone, but if you are for developing and looking to root/flash roms on it please get a different carrier other than Verizon or AT&T, they lock their bootloaders.

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