[Q] separate low and high tones - ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi all,
Would it be possible to separate the low and high tones, so the low tones are played through the one speaker and the high tones through the other?
I know the maximum volume may be a little bit lower when that's done, but it shouldn't make a huge difference either. 2 speakers doesn't mean the maximum volume doubles, in fact, it doesn't even raise that much.
Also, I don't know for the lower tones, but the speaker that plays the high tones could probably be pushed a bit loader since the driver doesn't come out that far. That way the total volume could maybe almost be as it is now.
After all this said/asked, THE POTENTIAL BENEFITS OF SEPARATING THE SPEAKERS.
When the speakers play the whole frequency of the sound, it may reduce bass or sound less "clear". This comes because the driver has to "trill" fast for the high tones and slow for the low tones at the same time. If we can separate the speakers so one speaker plays only the low and the other only the high frequencies, each speaker would have a smaller frequency range to play. This could give deeper basses and clear sounds.
What do you guys think about this?

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Low volume with anything other than Google Music

Volume was very low through my earphones (I've tried multiple), so I looked around the forum for similar threads. There's a LOT of threads with low volume issues. I found Voodoo Control, installed it, and configured it to output maximum levels. Google Music is at an acceptable level now where I won't put it to maximum volume, but Moboplayer sounds like I have it at ~50% when I actually have everything maxed out. It's pretty much useless to watch a movie where there is any other noise even with my in-ear phones that isolate sound.
I'm running the original Prime 1.5, not the revised kernel (no SoD issues here). So I'm getting a bit desperate here because of all the other little issues I've had to deal with this tablet... What can I do to resolve this?
I can't be the only one with this issue. Google Music's volume is more than sufficiently loud after installing Voodoo Control and maxing out everything. I originally thought my problem was limited to Moboplayer, but it's anything else besides Google Music. I've viewed my videos through Mobo, Rock, and the built-in MyNet app. I have normalized the audio stream to 100% for my videos, but even when set to "max" volume, it is nowhere near loud enough if there's any other noise in the environment.
I really want to like this tablet (and I do to some extent), but there's all these little issues with the software and some hardware that are really making me -__-
I can't say I have this issue but I can say that the sound quality sucks and even at the highest volume it is too low.
I installed Power AMP which has an equalizer with a Loud Speaker Out Pre setting which is louder than anything I have seen yet. It seems when you set your tab to this any other music player will pick it up and it is definitely louder.
Give it a try.

[Q] Volume+ or Equalizer??

Hey guys, I been trying to find a way to boost my volume lvl when watching a movie, the stock volume doesnt seem to be loud enough, my fan in my room drowns out the stock volume when pushed to near max lvl.
So far the only 2 apps that I found have been Volume+ and Equalizer so I wanted to know,
which of the two works best? If you use them what are your settings?
Can you have both Equalizer and Volume+ installed at the same time?
Or are you using a different app?
I currently have Volume+ installed and cant tell if its doing anything.
As far as Equalizer goes, i have no idea what bars to push up so i pushed them all up and that seem to help make my volume louder.
Thanks.
deeznuts808 said:
Hey guys, I been trying to find a way to boost my volume lvl when watching a movie, the stock volume doesnt seem to be loud enough, my fan in my room drowns out the stock volume when pushed to near max lvl.
So far the only 2 apps that I found have been Volume+ and Equalizer so I wanted to know,
which of the two works best? If you use them what are your settings?
Can you have both Equalizer and Volume+ installed at the same time?
Or are you using a different app?
I currently have Volume+ installed and cant tell if its doing anything.
As far as Equalizer goes, i have no idea what bars to push up so i pushed them all up and that seem to help make my volume louder.
Thanks.
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As far as I know, Volume+ was made to work with Gingerbread phones only as stated in the developers market page, meanwhile Equalizer has been officially updated to support Honeycomb tablet screen sizes. I have been using Equalizer myself since the Xoom launched back in February. It worked great then, and now it works even better with the recent Honeycomb UI update!
The best sound output settings would be to drag all of the bars up to +15dB. The bass booster intensity, virtualizer, and the reverb settings would all be your personal preference. It usually won't ever distort the sound in any way, but rather increase the overall system volume by... I'm going to say literally 10 times louder. You'll notice an immediate difference especially while listening to music or watching a movie. Also, make sure that you have the notification bar shortcut option checked as the equalizer can sometimes be shut down by the Android system. Doing so will force it to turn back on automatically after a few seconds time.
Been using this exact setup for months now, and couldn't be happier! Hope this helps.
Disagree with above post. Don't crank up all your sliders to Max. Increase DB means you will get more distortion especially bass. Yes it will be louder. But the audio quality is utter crap. Why trade loudness and throw away the quality sounds this machine can produce? Half way up or less and keep lowest bass and high trebble a bit further back is my Max recommendation for Equalizer app. Heck just experiment and listen. I have both apps. Volume+ was a godsend to my evo 3d. Ended up returning it anyways. The volume increase bar doesn't work the same way on zoom. Also once in a while you have to move certain sliders lower for the effect to kick back in. Overall it sounded fake, hallow, washed out. Equalizer is a way better app for the zoom. You can set profiles and specific files can use different profiles. You aren't losing loudness per say cause it never really worked on zoom like other phones and zoom is already loud. For speaker I just choose flat. All at zero. Better then what zoom had as default.
Torrentula81 said:
Disagree with above post. Don't crank up all your sliders to Max. Increase DB means you will get more distortion especially bass. Yes it will be louder. But the audio quality is utter crap. Why trade loudness and throw away the quality sounds this machine can produce? Half way up or less and keep lowest bass and high trebble a bit further back is my Max recommendation for Equalizer app. Heck just experiment and listen. I have both apps. Volume+ was a godsend to my evo 3d. Ended up returning it anyways. The volume increase bar doesn't work the same way on zoom. Also once in a while you have to move certain sliders lower for the effect to kick back in. Overall it sounded fake, hallow, washed out. Equalizer is a way better app for the zoom. You can set profiles and specific files can use different profiles. You aren't losing loudness per say cause it never really worked on zoom like other phones and zoom is already loud. For speaker I just choose flat. All at zero. Better then what zoom had as default.
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Hmm.. I have been doing what I said in my post above since I got the OG Droid pretty much since it launched. The Droid maxes out at 10dB. Been using DSPManager on it to drag all bars to max dB. Yes, I know what that means, but with this method you will not be turning the system volume all the way up. It will be much louder, and I have not noticed any quality issues while maxing the dB while my Xoom is connected to my 200 watt wireless speaker system with the subwoofer cranked all the way up. It will cause quality issues if the system volume is totally maxed out, of course. That's common sense, but you will not ever have the need to do such a thing if you simply just adjust your Xoom's system volume properly and accordingly. You pretty much never ever want to max out the system volume if you were to use these kind of heavy settings on an equalizer. Again, common sense.
But yes, that's why there are the adjustable bars for an equalizer. You can change the settings on the fly just as you please. No audio quality loss if you do it right. I'm a tech expert, and that's what I have been doing for years. Wouldn't ever change it because there is no quality loss if you do it correctly, and the sound is ten times louder. Only you can decide what works best for your situation. Thanks!

[Q] What is going on with ICS media volume steps?

I'm on Kangy8 and I don't know if this issue is related to all ICS roms.
So when I adjust the media volume while listening to music I basically get this more or less:
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where some of the steps seem to be mapped to more than one volume level.
What the ... I don't even get it.
I want something like this:
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I also don't understand the Voodoo Control Plus audio settings.
Current amplifier is a negative number. Why? So what I understand is, that it's amplifying the current volume?
I saw that CodenameAndroid comes with a 30 step volume addon but as far as I know this will conflict with voodoo sound.
I don't have that volume issue in the stock ROM on my i9023, possibly a kangy bug.
The amplifier level is simple and useful once you understand it. I'll give you some background first and some general numbers.
dB (decibel) is a unit, in an audio sense, which measures the pressure of sound waves. It is a logarithmic scale and requires a reference level to compare to. Basics with audio decibel values:
1dB : Threshold of noticing a volume change
3dB : A little louder
6dB : Double the sound pressure
10dB : We perceive sound approximately twice as loud
Now that's out of the way; the analog control tells the amplifier inside the phone how much it should amplify the sound. Using 0dB as a reference, which is generally the loudest it goes safely, how much less (in dB) would you like it to amplify. If you want it to halve the perceived volume, you'll drop it down to -10dB (effectively half as loud as full blast). The reason why you would want to do this is generally if there is excessive noise generated by the amp, lowering the amplifying power and raising the software volume will give you the same volume and power, but lower additional noise as the amp is working below it's limit. Higher quality DACs of course can reach their max amp capabilities and add no noticeable noise to the earphones/speakers, of course.
Hope that made sense

[Q] Earbuds excessive call volume

So I only noticed just now the Nexus 5 did not come with any earbuds. I have been using some cheap Skullcandy earbuds for music and they are decent enough to block out transit noise and play music at a moderate volume. However when I try making a phone call, at the lowest volume the sound is just ridiculously loud. It is painful for me to attempt to listen to more then 10-15 seconds of call audio wearing these. I also tried with my Galaxy Nexus earbuds, and it's the same story.
Has anyone found a pair of earbuds with mic that delivers gentle, quiet call audio at the lowest call volume of the Nexus 5 on stock ROM? Failing that, is there anything I can do to decrease the headset call volume further than the volume control will allow?
Bump, anyone else experiencing this? It shouldn't be deafening to make a phone call with earbuds...
OK I'm going to bump this again. It got WAY worse on 4.4.1. While I appreciate the volume boost for the phone's speaker, the earbud volume situation is out of control. The lowest volume setting on music, in a quiet room, is the loudest I can tolerate on earbuds - no option of turning it down lower. The lowest volume setting on phone calls is earth-shattering on earbuds - completely unusable for conversations unless I want to go deaf.
Is there ANY way I can force call volume down further on the headphone jack? Hacks, kernels, Xposed modules? I really don't want to be locked out of being able to make calls with earbuds.
All perfect with 4.4.1, skullcandy have a very bad quality earbuds, better buy sennheiser.
jlmcr87 said:
All perfect with 4.4.1, skullcandy have a very bad quality earbuds, better buy sennheiser.
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The sound quality is great, it's just too damn loud. Same with the earbuds that came with my Galaxy Nexus.
The call volume is ridiculously out of proportion with music volume. That is not the fault of the earbuds. The OS should not be pushing out call volume significantly louder than the music volume at a comparable setting.
OK, so a friendly individual in the Franco thread directed me to this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2532788
I simply used the same instructions for the mod but reduced the number rather than increase it. For call volume, the value that I changed was under path name "voice-headphones". The original setting was 20 and 20 for HPHL and HPHR volume. I turned them down to 05. I thought I heard a reduction from 20 to 10 but did not hear any further reduction from 10 to 05. Then I also tried reducing the RX1 and RX2 digital volume. I tried taking them from 84 down to 64 which was maybe a bit low, so I settled on 70. At that setting, the loudest IVR systems I've reached on the phone are just right at the lowest call volume setting, and I still have room to raise the volume in noisier environments.

Question Sound dies down when the bass drops.

When playing songs at full volume with outdoor mode on at full volumes the vocals die down when the bass hits, it sounds like a cheap Bluetooth speaker. Anyone else facing the same issue?
Please try it and let me know if the vocals get dim when the base hits.
Try the Song Glass House by MGK or any of the drake songs.
Thank you
Your sure it's not a sound system issue?
If the device performs well with quality headphones it's likely not the cause.
You should be coming out in the 24bit digital realm if possible otherwise it will degrade the sound quality if the source is high fidelity.
Hi.
So I noticed this issue early on and I tried the song you mentioned and have replicated the problem.
Except, I don't think it's a bug. In outdoor mode, the volume is boosted but at that volume the bass would be distorting in these speakers and therefore it lowers the overall sound.
You can replicate this even without outdoor mode on but with bass slider at max in audiowizard. You will get the same problem.
So, it works this way because that's how it's designed. Unfortunately.
Nasty_z said:
Hi.
So I noticed this issue early on and I tried the song you mentioned and have replicated the problem.
Except, I don't think it's a bug. In outdoor mode, the volume is boosted but at that volume the bass would be distorting in these speakers and therefore it lowers the overall sound.
You can replicate this even without outdoor mode on but with bass slider at max in audiowizard. You will get the same problem.
So, it works this way because that's how it's designed. Unfortunately.
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Alright thank you, but that's the thing I mean the speakers are good but you cannot use them to their full potential, the front camera is absolutely terrible for video calls, Snapchat is just a blurred face, I mean what's the point of this phone when it cannot get the basics right it overheats but 40C is acceptable. But thank you for confirming, I thought there is some hardware issue with my phone.
I think that's just the audio processing trying to compensate for the bass and prevent speaker over-excursion with soft clipping or dynamic range compression. The speakers are inherently limited in size and as far as I know, the phone doesn't use the entire back or front to improve bass response (like LG's Boombox feature).
You can try to EQ the bass down or disable the DTS processing.
dennis96411 said:
I think that's just the audio processing trying to compensate for the bass and prevent speaker over-excursion with soft clipping or dynamic range compression. The speakers are inherently limited in size and as far as I know, the phone doesn't use the entire back or front to improve bass response (like LG's Boombox feature).
You can try to EQ the bass down or disable the DTS processing.
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Use Poweramp for complete equalizer control.
It's limiter works flawlessly.
If the phone 24 bit digital output and you use it there should be no issues on the phone side.

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