Question Sound dies down when the bass drops. - ASUS ROG Phone 5 / 5s

When playing songs at full volume with outdoor mode on at full volumes the vocals die down when the bass hits, it sounds like a cheap Bluetooth speaker. Anyone else facing the same issue?
Please try it and let me know if the vocals get dim when the base hits.
Try the Song Glass House by MGK or any of the drake songs.
Thank you

Your sure it's not a sound system issue?
If the device performs well with quality headphones it's likely not the cause.
You should be coming out in the 24bit digital realm if possible otherwise it will degrade the sound quality if the source is high fidelity.

Hi.
So I noticed this issue early on and I tried the song you mentioned and have replicated the problem.
Except, I don't think it's a bug. In outdoor mode, the volume is boosted but at that volume the bass would be distorting in these speakers and therefore it lowers the overall sound.
You can replicate this even without outdoor mode on but with bass slider at max in audiowizard. You will get the same problem.
So, it works this way because that's how it's designed. Unfortunately.

Nasty_z said:
Hi.
So I noticed this issue early on and I tried the song you mentioned and have replicated the problem.
Except, I don't think it's a bug. In outdoor mode, the volume is boosted but at that volume the bass would be distorting in these speakers and therefore it lowers the overall sound.
You can replicate this even without outdoor mode on but with bass slider at max in audiowizard. You will get the same problem.
So, it works this way because that's how it's designed. Unfortunately.
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Alright thank you, but that's the thing I mean the speakers are good but you cannot use them to their full potential, the front camera is absolutely terrible for video calls, Snapchat is just a blurred face, I mean what's the point of this phone when it cannot get the basics right it overheats but 40C is acceptable. But thank you for confirming, I thought there is some hardware issue with my phone.

I think that's just the audio processing trying to compensate for the bass and prevent speaker over-excursion with soft clipping or dynamic range compression. The speakers are inherently limited in size and as far as I know, the phone doesn't use the entire back or front to improve bass response (like LG's Boombox feature).
You can try to EQ the bass down or disable the DTS processing.

dennis96411 said:
I think that's just the audio processing trying to compensate for the bass and prevent speaker over-excursion with soft clipping or dynamic range compression. The speakers are inherently limited in size and as far as I know, the phone doesn't use the entire back or front to improve bass response (like LG's Boombox feature).
You can try to EQ the bass down or disable the DTS processing.
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Use Poweramp for complete equalizer control.
It's limiter works flawlessly.
If the phone 24 bit digital output and you use it there should be no issues on the phone side.

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Speaker playback

I'm a Metalhead n need playback of my Metal tracks to be good quality on the phone if not great ! Everything else plays fine than a Rock/Metal track. Its no doubt that the audio quality on the headphones is great. I also understand that those low quality speakers on the Optimus suck.
So now what's the solution to eliminate the crackling + hiss sound?
Can I apply some software application? Can I change the speaker hardware? Can I alter the music files in a way that they dont produce crackling sound but still sound loud enough on speakers?
P.S : Many of the music files I download are originally encoded at a low volume i.e. some of the music files are low volume, while others are higher volume (based on how they were encoded by the uploaders). I always amplify the volume using the freeware "Wavepad" due to the low volume of files. I experimented by first applying a reverb to the files n then amplifying them to see if they no more produce a crackling sound.
Please help me if someone knows what I'm talkin abt.
I almost solved the issue of the crackling/hiss sound on speaker playback by playing around with the software "Wavepad".
In this software, I applied the following to the mp3 files in the given sequence:
1. Automatic Gain Control
2. Equalizer - Band Stop
3. Stereo Pan
4. Amplify - 200% to 300% (max)

Low volume with anything other than Google Music

Volume was very low through my earphones (I've tried multiple), so I looked around the forum for similar threads. There's a LOT of threads with low volume issues. I found Voodoo Control, installed it, and configured it to output maximum levels. Google Music is at an acceptable level now where I won't put it to maximum volume, but Moboplayer sounds like I have it at ~50% when I actually have everything maxed out. It's pretty much useless to watch a movie where there is any other noise even with my in-ear phones that isolate sound.
I'm running the original Prime 1.5, not the revised kernel (no SoD issues here). So I'm getting a bit desperate here because of all the other little issues I've had to deal with this tablet... What can I do to resolve this?
I can't be the only one with this issue. Google Music's volume is more than sufficiently loud after installing Voodoo Control and maxing out everything. I originally thought my problem was limited to Moboplayer, but it's anything else besides Google Music. I've viewed my videos through Mobo, Rock, and the built-in MyNet app. I have normalized the audio stream to 100% for my videos, but even when set to "max" volume, it is nowhere near loud enough if there's any other noise in the environment.
I really want to like this tablet (and I do to some extent), but there's all these little issues with the software and some hardware that are really making me -__-
I can't say I have this issue but I can say that the sound quality sucks and even at the highest volume it is too low.
I installed Power AMP which has an equalizer with a Loud Speaker Out Pre setting which is louder than anything I have seen yet. It seems when you set your tab to this any other music player will pick it up and it is definitely louder.
Give it a try.

[Q] Volume+ or Equalizer??

Hey guys, I been trying to find a way to boost my volume lvl when watching a movie, the stock volume doesnt seem to be loud enough, my fan in my room drowns out the stock volume when pushed to near max lvl.
So far the only 2 apps that I found have been Volume+ and Equalizer so I wanted to know,
which of the two works best? If you use them what are your settings?
Can you have both Equalizer and Volume+ installed at the same time?
Or are you using a different app?
I currently have Volume+ installed and cant tell if its doing anything.
As far as Equalizer goes, i have no idea what bars to push up so i pushed them all up and that seem to help make my volume louder.
Thanks.
deeznuts808 said:
Hey guys, I been trying to find a way to boost my volume lvl when watching a movie, the stock volume doesnt seem to be loud enough, my fan in my room drowns out the stock volume when pushed to near max lvl.
So far the only 2 apps that I found have been Volume+ and Equalizer so I wanted to know,
which of the two works best? If you use them what are your settings?
Can you have both Equalizer and Volume+ installed at the same time?
Or are you using a different app?
I currently have Volume+ installed and cant tell if its doing anything.
As far as Equalizer goes, i have no idea what bars to push up so i pushed them all up and that seem to help make my volume louder.
Thanks.
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As far as I know, Volume+ was made to work with Gingerbread phones only as stated in the developers market page, meanwhile Equalizer has been officially updated to support Honeycomb tablet screen sizes. I have been using Equalizer myself since the Xoom launched back in February. It worked great then, and now it works even better with the recent Honeycomb UI update!
The best sound output settings would be to drag all of the bars up to +15dB. The bass booster intensity, virtualizer, and the reverb settings would all be your personal preference. It usually won't ever distort the sound in any way, but rather increase the overall system volume by... I'm going to say literally 10 times louder. You'll notice an immediate difference especially while listening to music or watching a movie. Also, make sure that you have the notification bar shortcut option checked as the equalizer can sometimes be shut down by the Android system. Doing so will force it to turn back on automatically after a few seconds time.
Been using this exact setup for months now, and couldn't be happier! Hope this helps.
Disagree with above post. Don't crank up all your sliders to Max. Increase DB means you will get more distortion especially bass. Yes it will be louder. But the audio quality is utter crap. Why trade loudness and throw away the quality sounds this machine can produce? Half way up or less and keep lowest bass and high trebble a bit further back is my Max recommendation for Equalizer app. Heck just experiment and listen. I have both apps. Volume+ was a godsend to my evo 3d. Ended up returning it anyways. The volume increase bar doesn't work the same way on zoom. Also once in a while you have to move certain sliders lower for the effect to kick back in. Overall it sounded fake, hallow, washed out. Equalizer is a way better app for the zoom. You can set profiles and specific files can use different profiles. You aren't losing loudness per say cause it never really worked on zoom like other phones and zoom is already loud. For speaker I just choose flat. All at zero. Better then what zoom had as default.
Torrentula81 said:
Disagree with above post. Don't crank up all your sliders to Max. Increase DB means you will get more distortion especially bass. Yes it will be louder. But the audio quality is utter crap. Why trade loudness and throw away the quality sounds this machine can produce? Half way up or less and keep lowest bass and high trebble a bit further back is my Max recommendation for Equalizer app. Heck just experiment and listen. I have both apps. Volume+ was a godsend to my evo 3d. Ended up returning it anyways. The volume increase bar doesn't work the same way on zoom. Also once in a while you have to move certain sliders lower for the effect to kick back in. Overall it sounded fake, hallow, washed out. Equalizer is a way better app for the zoom. You can set profiles and specific files can use different profiles. You aren't losing loudness per say cause it never really worked on zoom like other phones and zoom is already loud. For speaker I just choose flat. All at zero. Better then what zoom had as default.
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Hmm.. I have been doing what I said in my post above since I got the OG Droid pretty much since it launched. The Droid maxes out at 10dB. Been using DSPManager on it to drag all bars to max dB. Yes, I know what that means, but with this method you will not be turning the system volume all the way up. It will be much louder, and I have not noticed any quality issues while maxing the dB while my Xoom is connected to my 200 watt wireless speaker system with the subwoofer cranked all the way up. It will cause quality issues if the system volume is totally maxed out, of course. That's common sense, but you will not ever have the need to do such a thing if you simply just adjust your Xoom's system volume properly and accordingly. You pretty much never ever want to max out the system volume if you were to use these kind of heavy settings on an equalizer. Again, common sense.
But yes, that's why there are the adjustable bars for an equalizer. You can change the settings on the fly just as you please. No audio quality loss if you do it right. I'm a tech expert, and that's what I have been doing for years. Wouldn't ever change it because there is no quality loss if you do it correctly, and the sound is ten times louder. Only you can decide what works best for your situation. Thanks!

App for louder music sound! -Much Louder-..

I was searching all over the play store for a way to boost the music sound and nothing was working in fact it would make the sound worse and lower than it already was and this is another thing we can't change without root permissions but luckily I found PowerAmp and this app literally made the music almost 50% louder so if you like your music louder I suggest you give it a shot and it can easily be found on the play store! Make sure you learn to use the equalizer and pre amp features because it makes it extremely loud but if you go into the settings and turn on the gain levels you can make it so loud that it's going to hurt your ears so just a warning lol.. Google Play Store PowerAmp!
My issue is not so much the speaker but the ear piece for calls. It just seems very low. I have issues hearing everyone unless it is cranked.... and it is still not loud enough.
Does PowerAmp affect the ear speaker too?
Update: I am guessing not since this is a "music player"
player911 said:
My issue is not so much the speaker but the ear piece for calls. It just seems very low. I have issues hearing everyone unless it is cranked.... and it is still not loud enough.
Does PowerAmp affect the ear speaker too?
Update: I am guessing not since this is a "music player"
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No this is only when you're playing music or videos through the PowerAmp player. Have you tried adjusting the hearing settings in settings then accessibility and Hearing? See if that may help or you can go through Settings then Sounds and Vibration and tap Sound Quality And effects and go through the entire process.
MrMike2182 said:
I was searching all over the play store for a way to boost the music sound and nothing was working in fact it would make the sound worse and lower than it already was and this is another thing we can't change without root permissions but luckily I found PowerAmp and this app literally made the music almost 50% louder so if you like your music louder I suggest you give it a shot and it can easily be found on the play store! Make sure you learn to use the equalizer and pre amp features because it makes it extremely loud but if you go into the settings and turn on the gain levels you can make it so loud that it's going to hurt your ears so just a warning lol.. Google Play
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@mmw68666
What are you trying to say? Lol..
It should be noted that the lower the bitrate of the audio file being played, the lower you will be able to increase the pre-amp level before getting massive distortion. I bought PowerAmp long ago and have used it almost exclusively, and the pre-amp I generally set pretty high, but most of my audio is FLAC with some 320WMA mixed in and the rare 192 and lower for rare stuff I had to rip from Youtube or other less than ideal sources. With FLAC files you can boost the pre-amp quite high and lot lose any quality or introduce any distortion. Using my Sony MDR-XB500 headphones and FLAC files, and the PowerAmp pre-amp, the audio levels easily get to painful/damaging-to-your-ears levels without distortion, but "standard" bitrate music (192kbps-ish) starts to distort pretty low on the pre-amp.

Question Equalizer help cc3

Are there any tuts on tweaking the sound etc, and or install other better ones? Dolby atmos, viper ?
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marchnz said:
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Viper4android or other equalizer apps.
ElliotAlderson59 said:
Viper4android or other equalizer apps.
Try and then write experience, it's how xda works when unable to find/search
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A couple of things I've noticed while playing with it:
It's completely broken. I tried to get a baseline by setting all of the speakers to 0ms delay and 0db. What happens is that the headunit outputs zero sound. It should be outputting the same sound to each speaker at the same time, but their EQ math must be wrong and they output nothing.
The only way to get it to output anything is to have a difference between the front and rear speakers. For example, if you add a 20ms delay or a -1db to the front, you'll suddenly get sound out of the front and rears.
It makes zero sense and prevents you from doing any real tuning.
What I've found is that the "best" sound is from setting all speakers to 0ms delay, all speakers to 0db, then adjusting the two front speakers to -10db. I have no idea why that works or what the headunit is actually doing with that, but it results in decent sound from all 4 speakers.
The equalizer is so overwhelming but very important to the sound. In my car all the presets sound terrible expect for "Pop" which sounds pretty decent but I'm sure I could get much better sound if i knew what I was doing.

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