[Q] Run Windows (86x) on Shield - Shield Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey
I'm happy to have the LTE Version of the Shield (EU).
Now it would be very intresting to run a Normal Windows. Which one i don't care.
It would be nice for work cause I we have Professionally surveillance and there all companys say you Need to use Microsoft Internet Explorer to Flash Cameras or Recorders without Errors...
Do you see any way?
-> Tried with Bochs but i'm new on Android World so i'm not good with this.
-> Don't care i understand much things but normaly i'm "at home with Windows Devices".
Would be nice if you can help me.

SaintAsonia said:
Hey
I'm happy to have the LTE Version of the Shield (EU).
Now it would be very intresting to run a Normal Windows. Which one i don't care.
It would be nice for work cause I we have Professionally surveillance and there all companys say you Need to use Microsoft Internet Explorer to Flash Cameras or Recorders without Errors...
Do you see any way?
-> Tried with Bochs but i'm new on Android World so i'm not good with this.
-> Don't care i understand much things but normaly i'm "at home with Windows Devices".
Would be nice if you can help me.
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You will not get any x86 version of Windows to run since the Shield is powered by an ARM processor.
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nrage23 said:
You will not get any x86 version of Windows to run since the Shield is powered by an ARM processor.
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Hey
Yes i know i mean about Emulator like i wrote already Bochs or something. But i didn't found a working Bochs Edition for my Shield.
I Know there are different Archidectures etc. but i like to emulate it. If it's slow i don't care. It just have to work
BTW: For my Skill: I've a MCSE Windows 8.1 and MCSA Windows Server 2012 R2 (actually i'm learning for MCSE)

You can use virtual desktop software like Chrome Remote Desktop or VMware, but Windows can't run on the Shield itself.

There's a very very high chance that there will be an ARM version of win10. They have already announced it. Should be a developer preview online someplace. Doubt it will work straight away though.
There is a also a version of Ubuntu Linux for shield

x86 applications can be run using Eltechs Exagear and wine using Ubuntu on the shield. IE should work. Run over to the thread on running Ubuntu natively using multirom. Must have root and new recovery etc. Is not for the notice.

geotherm said:
x86 applications can be run using Eltechs Exagear and wine using Ubuntu on the shield. IE should work. Run over to the thread on running Ubuntu natively using multirom. Must have root and new recovery etc. Is not for the notice.
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Worth a quick mention that exagear is 30 bucks. It's the only thing holding me up from trying to get elder scrolls oblivion running on Ubuntu for shield. Any ideas there would be great.

Hi guys
Now it works much better..
But! which Emulator do you know?
-> Bochs don't work.
-> Limbo at last it work. But on Windows 95 -> Win XP it's checking Hardware in a Loop. Win Vista or newer -> Limbo Crash..
Maybe now someone want to help me?

Pariahnoble said:
There's a very very high chance that there will be an ARM version of win10. They have already announced it. Should be a developer preview online someplace. Doubt it will work straight away though.
There is a also a version of Ubuntu Linux for shield
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VMware, Virtualbox, Sandboxie for Android

Are there such development for Vmware, Virtualbox, or Sandboxie going on for Android? Google does not showed much, is this because of i86 vs ARM issue and that it will go away once Negra4 dual core is rolled out?
kobesabi said:
Are there such development for Vmware, Virtualbox, or Sandboxie going on for Android? Google does not showed much, is this because of i86 vs ARM issue and that it will go away once Negra4 dual core is rolled out?
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Yes... Me too, looking forward on that app and make it available on android flatform. Im using Sandboxie on my desktop. I hope someday, soon Sandboxie will be on android too.

Ubuntu For Android (Not Ubuntu Installer)

The guys over at Ubuntu are developing something REALLY nice for the Android that are able to support both HDMI and USB, which I think the PLAY is capable of. This is some legit stuff guys! Time to revolutionize!
http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
It says that it's for multi-core phones, but maybe this could be ported to work on the PLAY in the long run? Discuss here!
EDIT: Something already popped into my head, since other Ubuntu distros can already be merged with the original Ubuntu itself, do you think removing the Android Ubuntu elements and adding them to a desktop Ubuntu system, then connecting the phone via USB with Debugging enabled would do the trick?
I'd love it if someone ported it to the Play, but I doubt it will happen... I guess they say it's for dual core phones for a reason (performance!)
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Selim873 said:
The guys over at Ubuntu are developing something REALLY nice for the Android that are able to support both HDMI and USB, which I think the PLAY is capable of. This is some legit stuff guys! Time to revolutionize!
http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
It says that it's for multi-core phones, but maybe this could be ported to work on the PLAY in the long run? Discuss here!
EDIT: Something already popped into my head, since other Ubuntu distros can already be merged with the original Ubuntu itself, do you think removing the Android Ubuntu elements and adding them to a desktop Ubuntu system, then connecting the phone via USB with Debugging enabled would do the trick?
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From what info i have got about the system it really is much like my project but tailer made to the tes device (atrix 2) with extra goodness that a team working hard have come up with...and not just me lol.
But if they release source it should let us come up with a installer that does everything they show for a much larger range of devices...we are already working on some of the features just a big 'watch this space'
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It's already possible to run a full linux distro under Android. Bit hacky though. It runs in the background and you have to VNC into it to use the GUI. Works pretty nicely however. There are a few apps which automate the process, including this free one which works pretty well now:
play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.galoula.LinuxInstall&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5nYWxvdWxhLkxpbnV4SW5zdGFsbCJd
Nextil said:
It's already possible to run a full linux distro under Android. Bit hacky though. It runs in the background and you have to VNC into it to use the GUI. Works pretty nicely however. There are a few apps which automate the process, including this free one which works pretty well now:
play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.galoula.LinuxInstall&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5nYWxvdWxhLkxpbnV4SW5zdGFsbCJd
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He knows this hence the (Note Ubuntu Installer) referring to one of my apps
Still no news here looks like its not running inside android like a vmware. Needs a dual core so that each core runs a different os. Ubuntu is utilizing one of the cores so would be worth while overclocking where possible. The host core still runs android so that they run together on the oppisite clocks

WindowsAndroid

The folks over at Socketeq have released WindowsAndroid. It runs natively on your Windows machine, meaning that there is no need for emulation. WindowsAndroid runs on the Windows kernel, instead of the Linux kernel. Currently they are on Android v4.0.3. It's compatible with Vista, Win7, and Win8. Keyboard and Mouse are fully supported. This is the early release, so there might be some bugs.
Normally download is hosted on Socketeq's website, but right now the site is down due to heavy loads. Here is and alternate link if your interested:
http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=9390288116658471029
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Kritec said:
The folks over at Socketeq have released WindowsAndroid. It runs natively on your Windows machine, meaning that there is no need for emulation. WindowsAndroid runs on the Windows kernel, instead of the Linux kernel. Currently they are on Android v4.0.3. It's compatible with Vista, Win7, and Win8. Keyboard and Mouse are fully supported. This is the early release, so there might be some bugs.
Normally download is hosted on Socketeq's website, but right now the site is down due to heavy loads. Here is and alternate link if your interested:
http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=9390288116658471029
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Kritec
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I actually read about this today lol
seems pretty cool.
If you want to tinker with it further edit the system/build.prop file in the windowsandroid_root folder and add this line:
ro.sf.lcd_density=120
It will switch the interface to tablet.
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Woah, this is cool
tried it out right away. pretty sweet. will do the screen density thing too. thanks for this link.
Anyone get anything to install from the play store? I only get error 491.
Also Settings fc for me when I tap the Security tab.
Mirror if needed:
WindowsAndroid_earlyrelease.exe (64.9 MB)
https://mega.co.nz/#!PFckRBJK!DP3bLVzL0FhI7378KmWB5l664xlBwmZTLa5a12dmQ_I
md5 - d3ea9d70b2a374d4b5d3f0123ac9f87b
get error opengl 1 lower
I get the error opengl is old 1 must better 2 version. . .
How can update or plz give dwnld link for it.

Android app on Windows Surface 8.1

So I've been doing a lot of looking around and I got a surface w. 8.1 for work as I needed MS Office. The only thing that I would like to be able to do is to MOD it so that I can put Google play on it and run android apps. I see that there is application called BlueStacks an emulator, I downloaded the .exe but the surface gives me the message that it can't run the exe. I went into the device and configured it to all untrusted apps via a YouTube I found and that did not work.
I'm not looking to make major changes to it. I am happy with it but want to add my android app. Can anybody point me in the right direction? Btw I am a complete noob on how to do this.
eyesofice said:
So I've been doing a lot of looking around and I got a surface w. 8.1 for work as I needed MS Office. The only thing that I would like to be able to do is to MOD it so that I can put Google play on it and run android apps. I see that there is application called BlueStacks an emulator, I downloaded the .exe but the surface gives me the message that it can't run the exe. I went into the device and configured it to all untrusted apps via a YouTube I found and that did not work.
I'm not looking to make major changes to it. I am happy with it but want to add my android app. Can anybody point me in the right direction? Btw I am a complete noob on how to do this.
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I use DuOs. Haven't had one issue with it at all. It uses a newer version of android than bluestacks runs everthing like an android tablet would. They give you a free trial soo after that its not free. But i think the trial is like 30 days.
Cool do you have a direct link?
Ya I did some looking up online and it doesn't say a whole lot on where to start and get set up with the 30 day trial and what not. Any suggestions
Here's the link. Like i said, it's a free trial with all the features for 30 days. Then after that its a one time charge. I liked it soo much that I bought it and have been using it for a couple months without issues. Once installed you'll have to setup the android stuff just like its dual booting. You'll have to type in the wifi passwords and select the wifi networks. There's also a box to check in the android settings to give full root access to run android programs that require a rooted device. One thing that i recommend is closing the DuOs program completely when finished. You can switch between windows and android just like using a regular windows program but it doesn't like when windows goes in "sleep" mode while its running. I always close the program when i'm not using it. The app can be ended by entering windows task manager if it ever becomes unstable but i haven't experienced anything other than the waking up from "sleep" mode. I've noticed with several games that my surface running Duos, plays them smoother and more responsive than my Sony Xperia Tab Z. Hope this helps!
http://www.amiduos.com/
Thank you I downloaded the .exe and it will not run on my tablet. There was jail break .bat file that I ran on the surface but how do I check to see if it worked ?
eyesofice said:
Thank you I downloaded the .exe and it will not run on my tablet. There was jail break .bat file that I ran on the surface but how do I check to see if it worked ?
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What model surface are you using? Is the os win 8.1? Everything that i've installed on mine installed just like a pc.
windows rt 8.1
32 bit os
arm processor
2gb ram
NVidia tegra 3 quad core cpu 1.30GhZ
The error that I get states that it can't run this app on this PC.
eyesofice said:
windows rt 8.1
32 bit os
arm processor
2gb ram
NVidia tegra 3 quad core cpu 1.30GhZ
The error that I get states that it can't run this app on this PC.
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That's your problem there. As I understand it, you cannot install third party apps on the RT version of windows. You will only be able to install apps from the microsoft store.
Damn regretting RT 8.1 more an more everyday

Wine 3.0 on Android

It is here,
https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/android/
But ain't working on pixel. I am pissed off. Any workarounds?
It is not compatible with Oreo yet.
Just let them know on their forums:
https://forum.winehq.org/viewforum.php?f=2
NoobInToto said:
It is here,
https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/android/
But ain't working on pixel. I am pissed off. Any workarounds?
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Look into Crossover. It uses WINE. http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/11/07/crossover-android-chrome-os-enters-open-beta/
skawtnyc said:
Look into Crossover. It uses WINE. http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/11/07/crossover-android-chrome-os-enters-open-beta/
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Unfortunately, it is not for ARM devices...
I hope they'll update it so it's compatible with Android Oreo devices.
Looks like the new WIne 3.0 is ARM-compatible, and has been compiled for ARM devices:
https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/android/
I have Oreo on my Nexus 7 2013, wine works, tried to install some apps but no luck, only errors. Internet Explorer works, but i see only blank white web pages
numbazZ said:
I have Oreo on my Nexus 7 2013, wine works, tried to install some apps but no luck, only errors. Internet Explorer works, but i see only blank white web pages
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what kind if binaries / apps were u trying to run?
nine7nine said:
what kind if binaries / apps were u trying to run?
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Tried Live For Speed installer, also exe from unpacked game, and some photoshop cs6 repack) as i know LFS works good on wine.
Will try something else tomorrow
numbazZ said:
Tried Live For Speed installer, also exe from unpacked game, and some photoshop cs6 repack) will try something else tomorrow
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how about trying actual arm binaries?
ie; windows rt, win8 arm && win10 arm PEs
last I heard, while the wine devs are working on x86 on arm, it wasn't ready - when compared to say; win10 for arm's x86 emulation layer...
I also know that in the past to run x86 binaries in wine on arm, you have to have binfmt_misc enabled in the kernel + qemu (emulator) to make it all work...
not sure, where things are at, at the moment. but I'd try running actual Arm compiled windows app and see if they run.... idk, I can't imagine that Wine is super useful on android yet. that said, I am curious - as I used to maintain buillds and patchsets for wine...
Only binaries compiled for ARM will function under Wine. You can find an updated list in the second post of this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2092348
skawtnyc said:
Only binaries compiled for ARM will function under Wine. You can find an updated list in the second post of this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2092348
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it should be noted, this is specifically windows rt / win8 arm apps... and hasn't been updated in 3yrs.
I suspect that if u were to investigate the windows app store / UWP apps - there are probably a much higher number of windows apps that potentially could run in wine / for arm - but then you would likely require the Microsoft store or some other way to get the apps running in wine (not sure if wine even supports them).
skawtnyc said:
Looks like the new WIne 3.0 is ARM-compatible, and has been compiled for ARM devices:
https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/android/
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It is not pixel compatible, and that is all this thread is about.
NoobInToto said:
It is not pixel compatible, and that is all this thread is about.
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To be honest I only installed it on my Pixel C, not my Pixel phone. Doing so would have been pointless since the resolution makes it very difficult to use. Also there's no way to access the software keyboard, making it even more difficult to use.
Even if you could install it, and those other issues were resolved, it doesn't have a x86 emulation layer so you're pretty much stuck with those old Windows RT apps and not much else. You're looking at something that really doesnt have much more value than proof of concept. I'm probably going to end up migrating my tablet to something like the Pixelbook so I can run Crossover on it and have both android and x86 Windows apps run natively.
skawtnyc said:
To be honest I only installed it on my Pixel C, not my Pixel phone. Doing so would have been pointless since the resolution makes it very difficult to use. Also there's no way to access the software keyboard, making it even more difficult to use.
Even if you could install it, and those other issues were resolved, it doesn't have a x86 emulation layer so you're pretty much stuck with those old Windows RT apps and not much else. You're looking at something that really doesnt have much more value than proof of concept. I'm probably going to end up migrating my tablet to something like the Pixelbook so I can run Crossover on it and have both android and x86 Windows apps run natively.
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Well, I would still like to try it out. If they manage to make it work with windows 10, say, windows 10S , it would be cool, since windows 10 is more touch friendly than 7 . It is in the works I believe, to be made possible via qemu (full arm compatibility). Time will tell.
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It is not pixel compatible, and that is all this thread is about.
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NoobInToto said:
Well, I would still like to try it out. If they manage to make it work with windows 10, say, windows 10S , it would be cool, since windows 10 is more touch friendly than 7 . It is in the works I believe, to be made possible via qemu (full arm compatibility). Time will tell.
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My biggest regret about this is that I don't have an emulator to run Diablo II on my tablet. Sure, there are other games, but they don't really capture the experience the same way.
skawtnyc said:
My biggest regret about this is that I don't have an emulator to run Diablo II on my tablet. Sure, there are other games, but they don't really capture the experience the same way.
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I managed to make doom 3 to work on my phone ( I don't recollect which one, pixel or nexus 6p, I switched to pixel about 2 months ago). I am not sure about diablo.
NoobInToto said:
It is not pixel compatible, and that is all this thread is about.
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beyond installing, it doesn't seem to work for me... also, i'm unclear on whether this build is arm64 compatible.? (I know wine has an arm64 preloader though).
skawtnyc said:
Even if you could install it, and those other issues were resolved, it doesn't have a x86 emulation layer so you're pretty much stuck with those old Windows RT apps and not much else. You're looking at something that really doesnt have much more value than proof of concept. I'm probably going to end up migrating my tablet to something like the Pixelbook so I can run Crossover on it and have both android and x86 Windows apps run natively.
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I suspect that running qemu + wine-x86 would be the better route to go (vs wine-arm or running qemu + windows)... i'm not too sure what the overhead would look like, but people are doing it on the rasberry pi 2/3...
it's probably also possible that using some of wine's env variables would improve performance (realtime priviledges for wineserver, critical threads, etc) and patching wine to support other enhancements (which is what I would do anyway, on my linux box).
NoobInToto said:
Well, I would still like to try it out. If they manage to make it work with windows 10, say, windows 10S , it would be cool, since windows 10 is more touch friendly than 7 . It is in the works I believe, to be made possible via qemu (full arm compatibility). Time will tell.
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i'd like to, as well...
technically, you can run qemu + x86 wine on arm, right now. I just don't believe that anyone has packaged it up nicely for android...
and it would require additional manual configuration, init script, possibly a script/wrapper for launching apps too, depending... Another issue would be the vast majority of stock kernels don't have the support or enable stuff that is going to be required... mine suports binfmt_misc (which qemu will require), but i think other stuff may be needed. not positive.
it can't be that hard though, but I don't have much experience with qemu (and none on android), wine on the other hand - lots of experience with on linux. same goes for winelib...
does anyone know how to get access to the internal storage?
I cant even try to install anything, because I dont know where the Wine-Files are located.
Btw I'm using a Lenovo YogaBook
Thanks
trfr3ak said:
does anyone know how to get access to the internal storage?
I cant even try to install anything, because I dont know where the Wine-Files are located.
Btw I'm using a Lenovo YogaBook
Thanks
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you'll have to figure out how to get into your internal storage yourself, but having a a proper file manager helps. you may need root to view the files (I did on my pixel)... also, not sure why you are asking for help for your yogabook in the google pixel forum...? (you probably shouldn't be).
as for where the files are. it's android, so app data is usually stored in /data/data/your.app.name... and this would be where wine installs it's binaries and prefix too. (org.winehq.wine)
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so yeah. looking at the binaries. they are compiled as arm-v7a. ... they should run (although, by default after install, they aren't in the PATH / can't be executed from a terminal)....
I guess maybe the arm64 version just isn't ready at this point && wine-3.0 for arm requires some manual setup on the pixel... might tinker with it later, or look into qemu + wine x86... we'll see

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