It is here,
https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/android/
But ain't working on pixel. I am pissed off. Any workarounds?
It is not compatible with Oreo yet.
Just let them know on their forums:
https://forum.winehq.org/viewforum.php?f=2
NoobInToto said:
It is here,
https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/android/
But ain't working on pixel. I am pissed off. Any workarounds?
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Look into Crossover. It uses WINE. http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/11/07/crossover-android-chrome-os-enters-open-beta/
skawtnyc said:
Look into Crossover. It uses WINE. http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/11/07/crossover-android-chrome-os-enters-open-beta/
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Unfortunately, it is not for ARM devices...
I hope they'll update it so it's compatible with Android Oreo devices.
Looks like the new WIne 3.0 is ARM-compatible, and has been compiled for ARM devices:
https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/android/
I have Oreo on my Nexus 7 2013, wine works, tried to install some apps but no luck, only errors. Internet Explorer works, but i see only blank white web pages
numbazZ said:
I have Oreo on my Nexus 7 2013, wine works, tried to install some apps but no luck, only errors. Internet Explorer works, but i see only blank white web pages
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what kind if binaries / apps were u trying to run?
nine7nine said:
what kind if binaries / apps were u trying to run?
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Tried Live For Speed installer, also exe from unpacked game, and some photoshop cs6 repack) as i know LFS works good on wine.
Will try something else tomorrow
numbazZ said:
Tried Live For Speed installer, also exe from unpacked game, and some photoshop cs6 repack) will try something else tomorrow
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how about trying actual arm binaries?
ie; windows rt, win8 arm && win10 arm PEs
last I heard, while the wine devs are working on x86 on arm, it wasn't ready - when compared to say; win10 for arm's x86 emulation layer...
I also know that in the past to run x86 binaries in wine on arm, you have to have binfmt_misc enabled in the kernel + qemu (emulator) to make it all work...
not sure, where things are at, at the moment. but I'd try running actual Arm compiled windows app and see if they run.... idk, I can't imagine that Wine is super useful on android yet. that said, I am curious - as I used to maintain buillds and patchsets for wine...
Only binaries compiled for ARM will function under Wine. You can find an updated list in the second post of this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2092348
skawtnyc said:
Only binaries compiled for ARM will function under Wine. You can find an updated list in the second post of this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2092348
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it should be noted, this is specifically windows rt / win8 arm apps... and hasn't been updated in 3yrs.
I suspect that if u were to investigate the windows app store / UWP apps - there are probably a much higher number of windows apps that potentially could run in wine / for arm - but then you would likely require the Microsoft store or some other way to get the apps running in wine (not sure if wine even supports them).
skawtnyc said:
Looks like the new WIne 3.0 is ARM-compatible, and has been compiled for ARM devices:
https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/android/
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It is not pixel compatible, and that is all this thread is about.
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It is not pixel compatible, and that is all this thread is about.
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To be honest I only installed it on my Pixel C, not my Pixel phone. Doing so would have been pointless since the resolution makes it very difficult to use. Also there's no way to access the software keyboard, making it even more difficult to use.
Even if you could install it, and those other issues were resolved, it doesn't have a x86 emulation layer so you're pretty much stuck with those old Windows RT apps and not much else. You're looking at something that really doesnt have much more value than proof of concept. I'm probably going to end up migrating my tablet to something like the Pixelbook so I can run Crossover on it and have both android and x86 Windows apps run natively.
skawtnyc said:
To be honest I only installed it on my Pixel C, not my Pixel phone. Doing so would have been pointless since the resolution makes it very difficult to use. Also there's no way to access the software keyboard, making it even more difficult to use.
Even if you could install it, and those other issues were resolved, it doesn't have a x86 emulation layer so you're pretty much stuck with those old Windows RT apps and not much else. You're looking at something that really doesnt have much more value than proof of concept. I'm probably going to end up migrating my tablet to something like the Pixelbook so I can run Crossover on it and have both android and x86 Windows apps run natively.
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Well, I would still like to try it out. If they manage to make it work with windows 10, say, windows 10S , it would be cool, since windows 10 is more touch friendly than 7 . It is in the works I believe, to be made possible via qemu (full arm compatibility). Time will tell.
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It is not pixel compatible, and that is all this thread is about.
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NoobInToto said:
Well, I would still like to try it out. If they manage to make it work with windows 10, say, windows 10S , it would be cool, since windows 10 is more touch friendly than 7 . It is in the works I believe, to be made possible via qemu (full arm compatibility). Time will tell.
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My biggest regret about this is that I don't have an emulator to run Diablo II on my tablet. Sure, there are other games, but they don't really capture the experience the same way.
skawtnyc said:
My biggest regret about this is that I don't have an emulator to run Diablo II on my tablet. Sure, there are other games, but they don't really capture the experience the same way.
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I managed to make doom 3 to work on my phone ( I don't recollect which one, pixel or nexus 6p, I switched to pixel about 2 months ago). I am not sure about diablo.
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It is not pixel compatible, and that is all this thread is about.
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beyond installing, it doesn't seem to work for me... also, i'm unclear on whether this build is arm64 compatible.? (I know wine has an arm64 preloader though).
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Even if you could install it, and those other issues were resolved, it doesn't have a x86 emulation layer so you're pretty much stuck with those old Windows RT apps and not much else. You're looking at something that really doesnt have much more value than proof of concept. I'm probably going to end up migrating my tablet to something like the Pixelbook so I can run Crossover on it and have both android and x86 Windows apps run natively.
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I suspect that running qemu + wine-x86 would be the better route to go (vs wine-arm or running qemu + windows)... i'm not too sure what the overhead would look like, but people are doing it on the rasberry pi 2/3...
it's probably also possible that using some of wine's env variables would improve performance (realtime priviledges for wineserver, critical threads, etc) and patching wine to support other enhancements (which is what I would do anyway, on my linux box).
NoobInToto said:
Well, I would still like to try it out. If they manage to make it work with windows 10, say, windows 10S , it would be cool, since windows 10 is more touch friendly than 7 . It is in the works I believe, to be made possible via qemu (full arm compatibility). Time will tell.
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i'd like to, as well...
technically, you can run qemu + x86 wine on arm, right now. I just don't believe that anyone has packaged it up nicely for android...
and it would require additional manual configuration, init script, possibly a script/wrapper for launching apps too, depending... Another issue would be the vast majority of stock kernels don't have the support or enable stuff that is going to be required... mine suports binfmt_misc (which qemu will require), but i think other stuff may be needed. not positive.
it can't be that hard though, but I don't have much experience with qemu (and none on android), wine on the other hand - lots of experience with on linux. same goes for winelib...
does anyone know how to get access to the internal storage?
I cant even try to install anything, because I dont know where the Wine-Files are located.
Btw I'm using a Lenovo YogaBook
Thanks
trfr3ak said:
does anyone know how to get access to the internal storage?
I cant even try to install anything, because I dont know where the Wine-Files are located.
Btw I'm using a Lenovo YogaBook
Thanks
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you'll have to figure out how to get into your internal storage yourself, but having a a proper file manager helps. you may need root to view the files (I did on my pixel)... also, not sure why you are asking for help for your yogabook in the google pixel forum...? (you probably shouldn't be).
as for where the files are. it's android, so app data is usually stored in /data/data/your.app.name... and this would be where wine installs it's binaries and prefix too. (org.winehq.wine)
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so yeah. looking at the binaries. they are compiled as arm-v7a. ... they should run (although, by default after install, they aren't in the PATH / can't be executed from a terminal)....
I guess maybe the arm64 version just isn't ready at this point && wine-3.0 for arm requires some manual setup on the pixel... might tinker with it later, or look into qemu + wine x86... we'll see
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Im curious wether or not there is a way for me to have a chrooted ubuntu on my transformer...? I saw something on youtube where they did it on a galaxy 10.1, and in the comments the maker of the video said it does work on the transformer.
But i am curious if anyone has tried it and is certain whether or not it work.
if this method is not possible, are there any other methods with similar results...?
... really? search before you post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1145601
mrevankyle said:
... really? search before you post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1145601
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i read that, but dont completely able to understand it... could someone help me out with installing it?
The easist thing is to download Linux Installer off the market. I found that Debian (ARMv5) offers better package choices than Ubuntu (ARMv7) in that case. I have mine running off /data/local/mnt/Linux with Debian stable.
Spidey01 said:
The easist thing is to download Linux Installer off the market. I found that Debian (ARMv5) offers better package choices than Ubuntu (ARMv7) in that case. I have mine running off /data/local/mnt/Linux with Debian stable.
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i attempted this, i managed to get debian but it did not have a gui.... How would i go about installing one.?
To get a GUI going that route you basically set it up to use VNC for running X stuff and then connect via an Android VNC client; I don't recall the name of the server but there were multple links on Google when I searched back in September.
I don't personally need X along side Android and the chroot, so I don't have it set up.
The guys over at Ubuntu are developing something REALLY nice for the Android that are able to support both HDMI and USB, which I think the PLAY is capable of. This is some legit stuff guys! Time to revolutionize!
http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
It says that it's for multi-core phones, but maybe this could be ported to work on the PLAY in the long run? Discuss here!
EDIT: Something already popped into my head, since other Ubuntu distros can already be merged with the original Ubuntu itself, do you think removing the Android Ubuntu elements and adding them to a desktop Ubuntu system, then connecting the phone via USB with Debugging enabled would do the trick?
I'd love it if someone ported it to the Play, but I doubt it will happen... I guess they say it's for dual core phones for a reason (performance!)
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Selim873 said:
The guys over at Ubuntu are developing something REALLY nice for the Android that are able to support both HDMI and USB, which I think the PLAY is capable of. This is some legit stuff guys! Time to revolutionize!
http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
It says that it's for multi-core phones, but maybe this could be ported to work on the PLAY in the long run? Discuss here!
EDIT: Something already popped into my head, since other Ubuntu distros can already be merged with the original Ubuntu itself, do you think removing the Android Ubuntu elements and adding them to a desktop Ubuntu system, then connecting the phone via USB with Debugging enabled would do the trick?
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From what info i have got about the system it really is much like my project but tailer made to the tes device (atrix 2) with extra goodness that a team working hard have come up with...and not just me lol.
But if they release source it should let us come up with a installer that does everything they show for a much larger range of devices...we are already working on some of the features just a big 'watch this space'
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It's already possible to run a full linux distro under Android. Bit hacky though. It runs in the background and you have to VNC into it to use the GUI. Works pretty nicely however. There are a few apps which automate the process, including this free one which works pretty well now:
play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.galoula.LinuxInstall&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5nYWxvdWxhLkxpbnV4SW5zdGFsbCJd
Nextil said:
It's already possible to run a full linux distro under Android. Bit hacky though. It runs in the background and you have to VNC into it to use the GUI. Works pretty nicely however. There are a few apps which automate the process, including this free one which works pretty well now:
play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.galoula.LinuxInstall&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5nYWxvdWxhLkxpbnV4SW5zdGFsbCJd
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He knows this hence the (Note Ubuntu Installer) referring to one of my apps
Still no news here looks like its not running inside android like a vmware. Needs a dual core so that each core runs a different os. Ubuntu is utilizing one of the cores so would be worth while overclocking where possible. The host core still runs android so that they run together on the oppisite clocks
All,
Please find the attached Windows RT native binaries for Snes9x 1.53. Snes9x is a SNES emulator.
http://snes9x.ipherswipsite.com/
I've had to disable a few features, such as OpenGL support and AVI recording. Direct 3D support is still there and I've included the D3D9 runtime in the package. Please don't ask me for ROMs - google is your friend. I've tried a couple roms, seems to be working just fine, but there could be issues lurking as there were lots of compilation warnings.
Also, I don't have an Xbox controller handy so I'm not sure how well that will work.
Cheers!
EDIT: before anyone slams me for the port.. yes I'm aware of "Snes8x" in the app store
bfosterjr said:
All,
Please find the attached Windows RT native binaries for Snes9x 1.53. Snes9x is a SNES emulator.
http://snes9x.ipherswipsite.com/
I've had to disable a few features, such as OpenGL support and AVI recording. Direct 3D support is still there and I've included the D3D9 runtime in the package. Please don't ask me for ROMs - google is your friend. I've tried a couple roms, seems to be working just fine, but there could be issues lurking as there were lots of compilation warnings.
Also, I don't have an Xbox controller handy so I'm not sure how well that will work.
Cheers!
EDIT: before anyone slams me for the port.. yes I'm aware of "Snes8x" in the app store
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nice job!work well on my surface:good:
thank you nice work!
bfosterjr said:
EDIT: before anyone slams me for the port.. yes I'm aware of "Snes8x" in the app store
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It's funny, because when you first posted this port I had that thought, but I downloaded it anyway. I have since discovered I cannot freaking play Super Mario with the store version's touch controller... it's just to imprecise (and no feedback) for me to actually have fun playing Mario (i.e. not dying constantly), and unless I'm just missing something, it doesn't seem to support keyboard input. So your port of Snes9x to the rescue! Thank you! I am curious what your motivation was to port it...
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It's funny, because when you first posted this port I had that thought, but I downloaded it anyway. I have since discovered I cannot freaking play Super Mario with the store version's touch controller... it's just to imprecise (and no feedback) for me to actually have fun playing Mario (i.e. not dying constantly), and unless I'm just missing something, it doesn't seem to support keyboard input. So your port of Snes9x to the rescue! Thank you! I am curious what your motivation was to port it...
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open charms bar, settings, there's something in there to enable and disable hardware or touch controls etc.
I guess some people prefer desktop apps to modern UI, that and its always a nice exercise.
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... I am curious what your motivation was to port it...
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I dream of a world where Metro doesn't exist ....
SixSixSevenSeven said:
open charms bar, settings, there's something in there to enable and disable hardware or touch controls etc.
I guess some people prefer desktop apps to modern UI, that and its always a nice exercise.
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Ahh, charms bar... I was looking in the um, "swipe from the bottom of the screen"...
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I dream of a world where Metro doesn't exist ....
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Works for me... the longer I've had my Surface, the more I prefer the desktop for many things. So thanks again!!
Yeah there Is no Xbox controller support, unfortunately. Very solid port otherwise, thanks for the effort,
Having issues running this on 8.1.
Any suggestions? Just pops up a Windows error.
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Having issues running this on 8.1.
Any suggestions? Just pops up a Windows error.
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*facepalm* there are many threads and posts saying how there is no jailbreak for 8.1, this requires the jailbreak, therefore you cant use it. Snes8x is on the windows store though.
SixSixSevenSeven said:
*facepalm* there are many threads and posts saying how there is no jailbreak for 8.1, this requires the jailbreak, therefore you cant use it. Snes8x is on the windows store though.
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Sorry, it doesn't say anywhere that it requires jailbreak, so I didn't think about it.
I'll start assuming it requires jailbreak if it's not in the Store. Safe enough assumption?
callmechewy said:
Sorry, it doesn't say anywhere that it requires jailbreak, so I didn't think about it.
I'll start assuming it requires jailbreak if it's not in the Store. Safe enough assumption?
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yes. the idea of the jailbreak is that windows RT will only run apps if they have a digital signature from microsoft, which is not something they are issuing for desktop apps so our apps ports do not have a signature and will not run on windows RT. The jailbreak removed that restriction so it will run desktop apps developed by us (internet explorer, microsoft office and the other apps already on the device being microsoft apps are signed so will run on non jailbroken systems). Only microsoft can sign the apps.
There are a few exceptions, bat scripts can run on RT without a jailbreak, I think powershell scripts are fine too. You can coerce it into playing .swf files too (in metro too actually). Anything else, jailbreak required.
Sadly the exploit the jailbreak used was patched by microsoft in 8.1, why? we don't know. It serves no purpose to lock the desktop in this way and they went right out of their way to change the signature enforcement seemingly just to prevent the jailbreak. I think a few people have hinted at ways to jailbreak 8.1, but so far the idea has been to keep your mouth shut if you have an idea and only share via private means so that microsoft can't patch it until its too late (october when 8.1 goes fully public), as a result I have no idea if there is any progress, officially there is not.
Since the whole point of the jailbreak is to enable running non-"app" software, yes, that's a pretty safe assumption (not perfect - sideloaded apps don't need a jailbreak - but anything that tells you to run an EXE will).
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Sadly the exploit the jailbreak used was patched by microsoft in 8.1
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This is only kind of true. The kernel exploit itself, the lack of validation on the object pointer on NtUserSetInformationThread subfunction 7, was not fixed. Getting to it was fixed and/or made much harder.
bfosterjr said:
All,
Please find the attached Windows RT native binaries for Snes9x 1.53. Snes9x is a SNES emulator.
http://snes9x.ipherswipsite.com/
I've had to disable a few features, such as OpenGL support and AVI recording. Direct 3D support is still there and I've included the D3D9 runtime in the package. Please don't ask me for ROMs - google is your friend. I've tried a couple roms, seems to be working just fine, but there could be issues lurking as there were lots of compilation warnings.
Also, I don't have an Xbox controller handy so I'm not sure how well that will work.
Cheers!
EDIT: before anyone slams me for the port.. yes I'm aware of "Snes8x" in the app store
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Do you happen to have the sources and project files available? I'd like to build upon yours and try to integrate with XInput as done by snes8x, specifically CBoxController.c/h, ControllerInput.c/h, etc.
How about buld new 1.55 release for WinRT?
https://github.com/snes9xgit/snes9x
I miss also DMGBoy latest 2.0 version build.
Hey
I'm happy to have the LTE Version of the Shield (EU).
Now it would be very intresting to run a Normal Windows. Which one i don't care.
It would be nice for work cause I we have Professionally surveillance and there all companys say you Need to use Microsoft Internet Explorer to Flash Cameras or Recorders without Errors...
Do you see any way?
-> Tried with Bochs but i'm new on Android World so i'm not good with this.
-> Don't care i understand much things but normaly i'm "at home with Windows Devices".
Would be nice if you can help me.
SaintAsonia said:
Hey
I'm happy to have the LTE Version of the Shield (EU).
Now it would be very intresting to run a Normal Windows. Which one i don't care.
It would be nice for work cause I we have Professionally surveillance and there all companys say you Need to use Microsoft Internet Explorer to Flash Cameras or Recorders without Errors...
Do you see any way?
-> Tried with Bochs but i'm new on Android World so i'm not good with this.
-> Don't care i understand much things but normaly i'm "at home with Windows Devices".
Would be nice if you can help me.
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You will not get any x86 version of Windows to run since the Shield is powered by an ARM processor.
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You will not get any x86 version of Windows to run since the Shield is powered by an ARM processor.
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Hey
Yes i know i mean about Emulator like i wrote already Bochs or something. But i didn't found a working Bochs Edition for my Shield.
I Know there are different Archidectures etc. but i like to emulate it. If it's slow i don't care. It just have to work
BTW: For my Skill: I've a MCSE Windows 8.1 and MCSA Windows Server 2012 R2 (actually i'm learning for MCSE)
You can use virtual desktop software like Chrome Remote Desktop or VMware, but Windows can't run on the Shield itself.
There's a very very high chance that there will be an ARM version of win10. They have already announced it. Should be a developer preview online someplace. Doubt it will work straight away though.
There is a also a version of Ubuntu Linux for shield
x86 applications can be run using Eltechs Exagear and wine using Ubuntu on the shield. IE should work. Run over to the thread on running Ubuntu natively using multirom. Must have root and new recovery etc. Is not for the notice.
geotherm said:
x86 applications can be run using Eltechs Exagear and wine using Ubuntu on the shield. IE should work. Run over to the thread on running Ubuntu natively using multirom. Must have root and new recovery etc. Is not for the notice.
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Worth a quick mention that exagear is 30 bucks. It's the only thing holding me up from trying to get elder scrolls oblivion running on Ubuntu for shield. Any ideas there would be great.
Hi guys
Now it works much better..
But! which Emulator do you know?
-> Bochs don't work.
-> Limbo at last it work. But on Windows 95 -> Win XP it's checking Hardware in a Loop. Win Vista or newer -> Limbo Crash..
Maybe now someone want to help me?
Pariahnoble said:
There's a very very high chance that there will be an ARM version of win10. They have already announced it. Should be a developer preview online someplace. Doubt it will work straight away though.
There is a also a version of Ubuntu Linux for shield
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nice
Hello.
Microsoft is working on an ARM version of Windows 10. It is already possible to get this working on a Raspberry PI 2.
According to this article:
https://www.modmy.com/developers-successfully-run-windows-10-surface-rt
someobdy managed to get Windows 10 partially working on a Surface RT. Is there any update on this? Considering Microsoft has an ARM version of Windows 10, what are the issues in getting this working?
kephax said:
Hello.
Microsoft is working on an ARM version of Windows 10. It is already possible to get this working on a Raspberry PI 2.
According to this article:
https://www.modmy.com/developers-successfully-run-windows-10-surface-rt
someobdy managed to get Windows 10 partially working on a Surface RT. Is there any update on this? Considering Microsoft has an ARM version of Windows 10, what are the issues in getting this working?
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Windows 10 on ARM is exclusively for ARM64 devices. The version that runs on the raspberry pi 2 is Windows 10 IoT. Win10 iot can run on the surface tablet, but due to lack of apps, it is practically useless.
There is any news about win10 on arm on Surface rt ?
Lord-THX said:
There is any news about win10 on arm on Surface rt ?
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No
Thanks
https://m.ithome.com/html/469731.htm
Here ^^^^
wangxiaohu said:
Here ^^^^
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Does that really work on a Surface 2? I could never get nvpep to work, it would always cause a bluescreen on boot (irql_not_less_or_equal).
I can't download your Surface 2 English WIM from that site, can you tell me if there is there a mirror? Failing that a tip on how you got nvpep working would be interesting
Thanks!
wangxiaohu,
I managed to get your Surface 2 WIM, works great aside from the expected Bluetooth issue. Use the Uart16550tegra driver from Surface RT on Surface 2, once this is installed the Bluetooth will work.
Thanks to Ranomez for the tip
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Does that really work on a Surface 2? I could never get nvpep to work, it would always cause a bluescreen on boot (irql_not_less_or_equal).
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Just spotted where I went wrong. I've been using sdbus.sys and sdstor.sys from a factory Surface 2 RT8.1 install, using these got me to desktop but I could never get nvpep to work without a BSOD on boot. Just noticed the sdbus.sys from the Chinese WIM is older than the one I took from my Surface 2 RT8.1 install.
sdbus 9.3.9600.16497 bad, 9.3.9600.16384 good. Combo of any nvpep and sdbus 9.3.9600.16497 under 15035 will break it.
wangxiaohu said:
https://m.ithome.com/html/469731.htm
Here ^^^^
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Wait what?!? Is this the real Windows 10 ARM Edition running on a Surface RT/2? Not IoT? If so, where did this come from? I thought Windows 10 ARM Edition was ARM64 not ARM32. I can kind of follow it, but relying on browser translation of the page...
domboy said:
Wait what?!? Is this the real Windows 10 ARM Edition running on a Surface RT/2? Not IoT? If so, where did this come from? I thought Windows 10 ARM Edition was ARM64 not ARM32. I can kind of follow it, but relying on browser translation of the page...
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Yes. But it's also last build that can run ARM32. We won't see newer version of Windows 10 on rt most likely.
domboy said:
Wait what?!? Is this the real Windows 10 ARM Edition running on a Surface RT/2? Not IoT? If so, where did this come from? I thought Windows 10 ARM Edition was ARM64 not ARM32. I can kind of follow it, but relying on browser translation of the page...
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_CNR_ said:
Does that really work on a Surface 2? I could never get nvpep to work, it would always cause a bluescreen on boot (irql_not_less_or_equal).
I can't download your Surface 2 English WIM from that site, can you tell me if there is there a mirror? Failing that a tip on how you got nvpep working would be interesting
Thanks!
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Yes it works... There are some caveats not stated in the instruction.
wangxiaohu said:
Yes. But it's also last build that can run ARM32. We won't see newer version of Windows 10 on rt most likely.
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That's really cool! I had no idea there was a build of Windows 10 ARM Edition that would run on the Surface RT/2. Thanks for posting the link to those instructions!
I suspect you're correct about no newer builds. Though considering my old Surface RT is still running RT 8.0 for the jailbreak, any version of 10 would be a lot newer. Am I correct in assuming all the open-source apps compiled for RT (since they're ARM32) would also run on this build of Windows 10? I'm going to have to try this when I get some time.
domboy said:
That's really cool! I had no idea there was a build of Windows 10 ARM Edition that would run on the Surface RT/2. Thanks for posting the link to those instructions!
I suspect you're correct about no newer builds. Though considering my old Surface RT is still running RT 8.0 for the jailbreak, any version of 10 would be a lot newer. Am I correct in assuming all the open-source apps compiled for RT (since they're ARM32) would also run on this build of Windows 10? I'm going to have to try this when I get some time.
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I want to set expectation clear that I still find rt with Windows 10 useless since it's doesn't have any perf improvement. Experience is awful. Camera doesn't work. Photo and Mail apps don't install. Edge browsing is more compatible with sites than IE, but extremely slow.... So, don't bother unless u want to enjoy the 'upgrade' per se.
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I want to set expectation clear that I still find rt with Windows 10 useless since it's doesn't have any perf improvement. Experience is awful. Camera doesn't work. Photo and Mail apps don't install. Edge browsing is more compatible with sites than IE, but extremely slow.... So, don't bother unless u want to enjoy the 'upgrade' per se.
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I appreciate the warning! I am not surprised to hear that it is slow, otherwise Microsoft might have actually released it officially. I probably will wait to try this until I have no other use for the device (once the Netflix app stops working). Still, it's neat to see it is actually possible.
wangxiaohu said:
Yes. But it's also last build that can run ARM32. We won't see newer version of Windows 10 on rt most likely.
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There are apparently newer ARM32 builds but its very unlikely we will ever get to see them and as it stands I think we are lucky to have 15035.
wangxiaohu said:
I want to set expectation clear that I still find rt with Windows 10 useless since it's doesn't have any perf improvement. Experience is awful. Camera doesn't work. Photo and Mail apps don't install. Edge browsing is more compatible with sites than IE, but extremely slow.... So, don't bother unless u want to enjoy the 'upgrade' per se.
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My nvpep troubles:
I found where I was going wrong with my WIM (thanks to your WIM) and what was causing nvpep to trigger a BSOD on boot. I don't understand the underlying cause but I was using sdbus 9.3.9600.16497 from my Surface 2 RT8.1 install (Surface2_BMR_20.2.19.0 recovery media), once I switched to sdbus 9.3.9600.16384 everything was fine.
Once that was sorted I was able to make my own working WIM and I've been playing with making it work as well as possible on my Surface 2:
Error on first boot:
Before allowing 15035 to boot for the first time create a new directory (\EFI\Microsoft\Recovery) and create an empty BCD store there.
Camera fix:
Code:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows Media Foundation\Platform]
"EnableFrameServerMode"=dword:00000000
Bluetooth fix:
Use the Uart16550tegra driver from Surface RT on Surface 2, once this is installed the Bluetooth will work.
Edge Tweaking:
Edge can be made a little better from about:flags - enable canary and allow high memory usage. This is not my tip but it seems to help, only real issue I have with Edge at the moment is YouTube but I've been told to give myTube a try.
Build Expired Nag Window:
Delete File \Windows\System32\LicensingUI.exe
Apps Working:
So far managed to get working the following MS apps: Onedrive, Remote Desktop, Skype, Photos, Camera, Scan, Films & TV, Mail & Calendar. Oh, and also an old version of Maps that still works - GPS is good. Third party apps tried so far - Team Viewer & VLC.
Pictures: https://imgur.com/a/ujnLlFI
List of apps that that seem to work on Windows 10 15035 so far - newer versions may work but would require manifest mods:
Code:
Microsoft.DesktopAppInstaller_2019.1019.1.0_neutral_~_8wekyb3d8bbwe
Microsoft.WindowsStore_11811.1001.2713.0_neutral_~_8wekyb3d8bbwe
Microsoft.MicrosoftSkyDrive_17.30.3.0_neutral_~_8wekyb3d8bbwe
Microsoft.RemoteDesktop_10.1.1107.0_neutral_~_8wekyb3d8bbwe
Microsoft.SkypeApp_12.1815.210.1000_neutral_~_kzf8qxf38zg5c
Microsoft.Windows.Photos_2017.35063.44410.1000_neutral_~_8wekyb3d8bbwe
Microsoft.WindowsCamera_2017.727.40.2000_neutral_~_8wekyb3d8bbwe
Microsoft.WindowsScan_2014.523.326.3026_neutral_~_8wekyb3d8bbwe
Microsoft.ZuneVideo_2019.18052.10711.0_neutral_~_8wekyb3d8bbwe
Microsoft.WindowsCommunicationsApps_16005.11001.20116.0_neutral_~_8wekyb3d8bbwe.appxbundle
Microsoft.WindowsMaps_4.1509.50912.0
TeamViewer.31414B719FA93_15.0.100.0_neutral_~_89446h4zmeyyt
VideoLAN.VLC_3.2.1.0_neutral_~_paz6r1rewnh0a
Not exactly current in some cases but they still seem to function.
These I have installed but not used. It would be a surprise if the wireless display worked (I don't have the adapter) and I'm not a telegram user but will sign up to test later.
Code:
Microsoft.SurfaceWirelessDisplayAdapter_3.4.137.1000_neutral_~_8wekyb3d8bbwe
38833FF26BA1D.UnigramPreview_3.6.2286.0_neutral_~_g9c9v27vpyspw
I'm not really a big app user so I've just been adding stuff to make 15035 feel a little less empty
There is this version of Maps:
Code:
Microsoft.WindowsMaps_2017.1003.1829.0_neutral
Should work on 15035 but it requires 15063 as a minimum to install and I have not looked into what's required to modify the manifest, repack and sign yet. For the moment I've focused on what will work without too much trouble.
Qiangong2 said:
No
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@Qiangong2
Are you going to try this? Need your feedback.
k4955 said:
@Qiangong2
Are you going to try this? Need your feedback.
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I tried but the install was so glitchy that I reverted back to RT 8.1.
Qiangong2 said:
I tried but the install was so glitchy that I reverted back to RT 8.1.
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Once installed its not bad, I've got a dual boot setup on my Surface 2 just to be on the safe side though.