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HTC One Mini - is this phone really dead?

I have a question. For me One is the most beautiful Android smartphone ever released. Dunno why but that's true. I'm tired of those similar Xperia phones or ovoid Samsungs, they are ugly (really no offence that's just my opinion) However One it's quite too expensive and quite too big for me so I was happy when I dicovered One Mini. I've read some reviews already and I noticed people mostly complaining about low RAM or that One Mini should be smaller One with the same specs. Now I'm entering One Mini section on XDA and what I see. Topics about how this phone is already dead or why it isn't so awesome like One... Not much topics of new roms, mods (or maybe it's just a matter of time, I hope so) It saddens me because I wanted to buy it new as my first, serious, recently released smartphone... Now I have an old Xperia PLAY so you know... So my question is: Is this phone really that bad? I suppose there will be a big difference between One mini and my old phone but I would feel bad knowing that I could choose better phone in that price... you know it's not a small price. Nexus 4? I heard it's nice, it has got many updates, but it is limited (?) naked without for example awesome sense 5.0 and other multimedia things... Are there any One mini user on this forum? Can you use Facebook, listen to music, browse Internet at the same time? And then play Asphalt for example without having forced to go into killing other apps? Thank you for your answer
Sorry, English is not my native

ma_ko said:
I have a question. For me One is the most beautiful Android smartphone ever released. Dunno why but that's true. I'm tired of those similar Xperia phones or ovoid Samsungs, they are ugly (really no offence that's just my opinion) However One it's quite too expensive and quite too big for me so I was happy when I dicovered One Mini. I've read some reviews already and I noticed people mostly complaining about low RAM or that One Mini should be smaller One with the same specs. Now I'm entering One Mini section on XDA and what I see. Topics about how this phone is already dead or why it isn't so awesome like One... Not much topics of new roms, mods (or maybe it's just a matter of time, I hope so) It saddens me because I wanted to buy it new as my first, serious, recently released smartphone... Now I have an old Xperia PLAY so you know... So my question is: Is this phone really that bad? I suppose there will be a big difference between One mini and my old phone but I would feel bad knowing that I could choose better phone in that price... you know it's not a small price. Nexus 4? I heard it's nice, it has got many updates, but it is limited (?) naked without for example awesome sense 5.0 and other multimedia things... Are there any One mini user on this forum? Can you use Facebook, listen to music, browse Internet at the same time? And then play Asphalt for example without having forced to go into killing other apps? Thank you for your answer
Sorry, English is not my native
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Someone just asked a similar question which I replied to reguarding the development issue, you can read it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2499138
It's a beautiful phone. I think they should have given it 2GB of memory, but it isn't too big of a deal, it's just as fast as any Android phone with 1GB of memory. I don't have Asphalt, but I can run Pandora, Facebook, Google Play, Robot Unicorn Attack 2, and Chrome with 1 tab open fine. If I open more than 1 tab then Robot Unicorn Attack 2 will reload when I switch back to it. I also have avast! Free Mobile Security, Smart Wifi Toggler, No-Frills CPU Control, and the Contacts and Messages apps running in the background. For a 1GB phone it multitasks just fine, but it won't multitask as well as a phone with 2GB (obviously).
Are you choosing the HTC One Mini for the size or the price? Reason I ask is because the difference in size between the One Mini and the Nexus 4.

Actually I'm looking for a smaller phone, I noticed that Nexus 4 has bigger screen but at the same time it's cheaper so I thought about it too. But on the other side One mini is smaller, more handy and very good-looking and I will buy it instead of Nexus 4 probably So in the next days I will be more active in this section

ma_ko said:
Actually I'm looking for a smaller phone, I noticed that Nexus 4 has bigger screen but at the same time it's cheaper so I thought about it too. But on the other side One mini is smaller, more handy and very good-looking and I will buy it instead of Nexus 4 probably So in the next days I will be more active in this section
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hello ma_ko
you dont do anything wrong with buying this phone. i have my MINI 3 months now and i cant tell anything really negative.
i like this long format of the display. its nearly 16:9 format widescreen but not full. i think its 16:10 or something like that.
the phone i a bit long yes, unneccesarily. they could do it a bit shorter, so you could handle better with one hand.
but overall i like my phone very much.
It is not slow, i can hear music and surf beside. this is no problem. you dont need to worry about the perfomance .
I think 1gb ram is more than enough, i never had problems..
You are right. There are no custom roms yet, but they WILL come in a few weeks i think, at least CM 4.3 Nightlies

EdiBese said:
hello ma_ko
you dont do anything wrong with buying this phone. i have my MINI 3 months now and i cant tell anything really negative.
i like this long format of the display. its nearly 16:9 format widescreen but not full. i think its 16:10 or something like that.
the phone i a bit long yes, unneccesarily. they could do it a bit shorter, so you could handle better with one hand.
but overall i like my phone very much.
It is not slow, i can hear music and surf beside. this is no problem. you dont need to worry about the perfomance .
I think 1gb ram is more than enough, i never had problems..
You are right. There are no custom roms yet, but they WILL come in a few weeks i think, at least CM 4.3 Nightlies
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It's a 16:9 screen (1280x780). It's a great phone, you'll love it. Whether it's the best for you is up to you.
Another phone you might want to look at is the Moto X. It has a 4.7" 720p screen, but it's almost the same physical size as the HTC One Mini. The Nexus 5 debuts on the 31st, but that'll have a 5 inch screen so it'll be as big as the Galaxy S4.

ma_ko said:
Actually I'm looking for a smaller phone, I noticed that Nexus 4 has bigger screen but at the same time it's cheaper so I thought about it too. But on the other side One mini is smaller, more handy and very good-looking and I will buy it instead of Nexus 4 probably So in the next days I will be more active in this section
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The previous model of One Mini is One S from last year. The problem is One Mini isn't really a major upgrade to One S. In the end, most guys there on One S board(I would say almost all actually) decided to keep their One S. They also have a leaked official 4.2.2 Sense 5.0 from HTC, OS upgrade isn't a problem to them.
Clearly, it's not One Mini fault but fuxking stupid HTC Marketing to force people stay with old model. You don't have an One S, you are safe to get One Mini.

I love my one mini <3
I had a Huawei G300 prior to it and I wonder how I even used the thing! The HTC One Mini is so much faster and snappier, the speakers give amazing sound, it makes so much more sense to have stereo and to have the speakers at the front! I don't know but I think the design of it makes videos look better on it, when I watch YouTube videos for example, it's just really nice. xD
I put a clear silicon case on it so now it looks like the edges of the phone are made of glass (well to me at least), and I've changed the theme using the Themer Beta app
I took some pictures of it but it won't let me post them because I haven't got enough posts.. .-.
Anyway, I don't know, if you haven't decided on a phone yet, I think you'll be impressed by it. Also the camera is awesome.
The other kinds of phone designs, ovoids like you said look reaaaally outdated to me now.. I don't think I could go back to something like that!
The only thing I'd say is annoying about it is that it doesn't have a menu button, so you have to go from the top notification bar to go into the settings but I got used to it pretty quickly. Also I've heard that the plastic cracked for some people but that hasn't happened to me. Maybe because I had the case from the day I got it and I keep it in my bag so I guess it's safer..?

edinletir said:
The only thing I'd say is annoying about it is that it doesn't have a menu button, so you have to go from the top notification bar to go into the settings but I got used to it pretty quickly.
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You can set the home button to bring up menu from long press under display options.
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You can set the home button to bring up menu from long press under display options.
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Ohhh, so much better! Thanks for letting me know

Recommend the G pro 2? Would you buy again? What's to know?

I've kept my eye on the G pro 2 for a while (was about to get the original O G pro, but waited for this to come out). So I'm well aware of the specs, features, reviews, etc. But what I want to know is a real world user's opinion of the device.
Is the phone pretty decent? Any frustrations or quirks to know before trying to get one?
Key questions:
*How is the Mic/voice quality? (sending and receiving during a voice call)
*How is the battery life(I know it depends on usage and habits of the user, but just overall, how would you rate it personally, compared to other current/comparable Android phones)?
*Is it relatively stable and responsive?
*What bothers you about this phone?
*Would you buy it again if you were in the market for a new phone right now?(tells me that you like the phone and are overall happy with it)
I plan on getting a F350(a bit confused with the S/L/etc. acronym endings, can any one shed light?) I want to use it on at&t's network. On paper, and seeing professional reviews, the G pro 2 seems like my phone (1080p 5.9" screen, expandable memory via microsdhc, user replaceable battery, decent camera, etc.) But I want to know, if in practice, the phone is stable/frustration free(relatively speaking), decent real world battery life (if it's competent/comparable at least.. ), hoping that this is not one of those, "you have to root it and install a custom rom in order for this phone to be bearable"- type thing.
My other considerable is the Sony Xperia Z2 (prices are right, even though the screen is smaller and the battery isn't "replaceable"). I didn't want the Samsung Galaxy series due to the smaller screens and bloatware they put on there(note's a great series, but simlar.. bloatware, plus really expensive).
Thanks! I appreciate any input!

these are my questions too..

I came from a Samsung S3 (running CM).
first impressions were: Nice clean looks and lines, it's big (but it's not unwieldy). my wife has a Note 3 and it's about the same. the curve along the back sides makes it more comfortable to hold. Obviously, it's a heavier phone due to size, so your hand might get tired if you're one to use your phone lying down or something.
Screen is fantastic. I have no problems with colour issues with the screen and it's bright enough for me, even outdoors.
Battery life is good. standby can last more than a day. in usage, i was a bit busy yesterday and didn't use it too much, but from 0700 to 2300, i had 63% before i plugged it in. on a more typical day, I'd probably have around 40%. mainly a mixture of whatsapp, a few blogs, games and some TV show watching at lunch.
Camera is decent and acceptable auto focus speed. not a lot of bloatware.
I'm running 10e firmware due to bugs in 10f and waiting for lollipop. 10e is stable. not had problems with it.
problems: it's not widely available and the user base is small. so don't expect any fancy mods/firmwares or anything like that. as such, there's not a lot of accessories for it either outside of LG's own stuff.
My friend has the Z2 (not looked, but isn't the Z3 pricing nearly the same now?), and his camera is better and the battery life is longer due to Sony's Stamina software. display is about the same. If you want a big, stock phone, the LG is great. if you want to play around and like to customise your phone, then i'd go with the Sony.

Thanks for your input Ray-Lee .
I'm on the fence between the two phones, I like the bigger screen on the G pro 2, I haven't held one yet in person, but I don't think I"ll be bothered by it at all. Only thing that really entices me for the Z2 are the current prices for it right now.. for relatively similar specs, smaller screen, but better camera compensates. Honestly, I want the device to work well out of the box.. this is xda and I do play with custom firmwares and roms, but that's more of a result than a mission for me these days.. as in, if the unit runs better/faster/more stable compared to stock(or.. if stock is so horrendous that it must be rooted and flashed to be "decent").

ssnova said:
Thanks for your input Ray-Lee .
I'm on the fence between the two phones, I like the bigger screen on the G pro 2, I haven't held one yet in person, but I don't think I"ll be bothered by it at all. Only thing that really entices me for the Z2 are the current prices for it right now.. for relatively similar specs, smaller screen, but better camera compensates. Honestly, I want the device to work well out of the box.. this is xda and I do play with custom firmwares and roms, but that's more of a result than a mission for me these days.. as in, if the unit runs better/faster/more stable compared to stock(or.. if stock is so horrendous that it must be rooted and flashed to be "decent").
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Ive been using this phone pretty much since it came out (D838 rooted stock) and the stock Performance is fantastic if im honest it really doesn't need a custom rom unless you want to "mod" alot of things and even then as long as your careful theres still alot you can do with just root, i love this phone so much and its modified enough for my liking without a rom, its fine right out of the box and if you can live without a custom rom (which is really doesnt need that much) i think you'll be as happy as i am with this phone on stock with or without root.
But yes if you do like to flash and mess about alot go with the z2/note3 as there is more options there but this is still a brillant phone.

bjscott55 said:
Ive been using this phone pretty much since it came out (D838 rooted stock) and the stock Performance is fantastic if im honest it really doesn't need a custom rom unless you want to "mod" alot of things and even then as long as your careful theres still alot you can do with just root, i love this phone so much and its modified enough for my liking without a rom, its fine right out of the box and if you can live without a custom rom (which is really doesnt need that much) i think you'll be as happy as i am with this phone on stock with or without root.
But yes if you do like to flash and mess about alot go with the z2/note3 as there is more options there but this is still a brillant phone.
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Thanks a lot for the assurance. I'm still bouncing around phone options, I guess it just comes down to price (best bang for buck, with expandable memory at least). I'm still considering the G pro 2, but I saw how the GS note 3 has come down a lot in price.
Thanks again!

ssnova said:
Thanks a lot for the assurance. I'm still bouncing around phone options, I guess it just comes down to price (best bang for buck, with expandable memory at least). I'm still considering the G pro 2, but I saw how the GS note 3 has come down a lot in price.
Thanks again!
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I've had both and granted you can mess around with roms and stuff but for pure joy in use i much prefer the g pro 2 its a really really good phone and for the low price you really cant beat it in my opinion unless this phone gets a good recovery and cm11 ill never bother with costom roms ect. For me its perfect on stock the peformence is amazing, to date (about 6 months of owning this phone) the battery still amazes and im yet to see any lag ever!! The ui is amazing, for a phone out of the box you cant beat it if you like music it outputs brillantly im just in love so maybe im a little one sided but i hope whatever you do you will be happy! Let me know!

bjscott55 said:
I've had both and granted you can mess around with roms and stuff but for pure joy in use i much prefer the g pro 2 its a really really good phone and for the low price you really cant beat it in my opinion unless this phone gets a good recovery and cm11 ill never bother with costom roms ect. For me its perfect on stock the peformence is amazing, to date (about 6 months of owning this phone) the battery still amazes and im yet to see any lag ever!! The ui is amazing, for a phone out of the box you cant beat it if you like music it outputs brillantly im just in love so maybe im a little one sided but i hope whatever you do you will be happy! Let me know!
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I only can agree with that!
I did get mine last week and i am very happy with it! Came from Galaxy Note 2 wich i liked very much but i dont trust Super Amoled Display technology since noone grants you that it will operate more than 3 years with heavy use. I chose this device because it has similar dimensions as the Note 2, stronger hardware, bigger 1080p reliable IPS LCD screen and fabulous 3200 mAh battery.
It's a must have for phablet lovers that want to have a good performing phone with large screen.
After just a few days of use this is my opinion. On software side is everything ok, just the usual Kit Kat problem that bugs lots of users out here, tha lack of having permissions for apps to write to sd card. That was the only thing that bothered me, but thats on Google side. This phone is truly amazing!
Hope that helps the peple to choose the best device for their specific needs. I found mine definitely.

Thank you for the input bhun and derbyshire! I really like the phone and want to get it, but for me the G pro 2 shipped from Asia to the US (I need the F350 model for LTE compatibility), it's about $600, I'm going to wait out just a little longer, it's a bit out of my budget (was hoping to score a phone for less than $450.. Sony Z2 and ZU did fit that for me, but not anymore either, haha).
I'm glad to hear that it's a great phone though(G pro 2), hopefully the prices will come down a bit for the F350 model and I can obtain one soon. Thanks again to all who have contributed!
bhun said:
I only can agree with that!
I did get mine last week and i am very happy with it! Came from Galaxy Note 2 wich i liked very much but i dont trust Super Amoled Display technology since noone grants you that it will operate more than 3 years with heavy use. I chose this device because it has similar dimensions as the Note 2, stronger hardware, bigger 1080p reliable IPS LCD screen and fabulous 3200 mAh battery.
It's a must have for phablet lovers that want to have a good performing phone with large screen.
After just a few days of use this is my opinion. On software side is everything ok, just the usual Kit Kat problem that bugs lots of users out here, tha lack of having permissions for apps to write to sd card. That was the only thing that bothered me, but thats on Google side. This phone is truly amazing!
Hope that helps the peple to choose the best device for their specific needs. I found mine definitely.
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The things that bother me about this phone are the poor wifi signal, I can be within a meter of my router and it still fluctuates between 3 and 4 bars. Any less than 4 bars wifi signal seems to have a noticeable impact on browsing performance. I also find the mobile data hotspot a pain, every so often the connection would hang and you would have to turn data off and back on again to get it to work. It seemed to do that every hour or so. Also if the phone gets even minutely warm, the brightness level will restrict itself to between 80% and 90%. I have had 3 LG G Pro 2 and they have all been the same. I also notice some flickering at times, especially when there is a white background on a webpage. I am almost fed up of mine and looking at selling it soon. It does have the potential to be a good phone, and I think all the faults I mentioned could be fixed with a decent firmware update.

I agree with you on wifi reception, its been the worst amongst all the phones i have owned
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Good Buy
It's a good buy switching. Switched from GS5 to this

I don't feel the need of getting the next samsung device, what are your opinions?

Its all the same, nevertheless. I find nexus 6P more elegant and unique, thus the reason buying it because theres so many people with samsung devices, even low class people which just filters out its uniqueness and its price tag making it look worthless outside. What are your opinions? If your on Samsung S6/Edge/+, would you have the need to upgrade to an device such as Samsung S7?
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I've posted an explanation as to what low class in this instance means. forgive me if it had you in any way, i was never trying to make any of you owners sad, its just that for so many, they have this phone and it just gets rid of its status 'elegant'. Elegant is ment to be beautiful, stylish. But when everyone has this 'elegant' phone, where does the definition exist of being stylish?
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I love the samsung edge because its invention of curve screen. I've even had friends give them to me to try for an hour or so. The thing is that, i don't like people having the same phone as me. I was about to get the nexus 5x but one of my friends got it, so i went ahead with nexus 6p. But that doesnt mean that i would get another new phone if someone else has the same phone as me because that would be regarded as wasting money.

I agree I'm in a bond my Samsung smartphone if I should get the new one must have something waw and cool and interesting

I got my Galaxy S phone to be different from everybody else.
Then I got my Galaxy S4/S5 because they were simply the best.
Samsung is neither unique or the best anymore so...

Nexus6p stands strong in Android market . I hope Samsung won't compete to beat n6P with bloatware and bla bla. Hail nexus6p

After living with the LG G4 for a couple weeks, I'll be sticking with Samsung, if for no other reason that I FAR prefer the Home/capacative buttons that Samsung offers compared to the on screen buttons that all the other major makers use. Plus, I like Samsung's screens the best, & they are always at or near the top in camera, performance, etc. Custom ROMs take care of the bloat. Now, Samsung isn't perfect, & I am very disappointed by their removal of SD & replaceable battery, which is why I'm still hanging in there with my S4, which I had planned to replace with the S6. It looks like the SD is coming back, which will be probably be enough for me to go with the S7. If the S7 had replaceable battery, it would be a slam dunk for me. Despite the G4 having those features, it's size & button arrangement (including the power & volume) made it an overall less preferable unit to me than my aging S4.

I agree with the OP, my next device will be a Nexus one.

Not going to upgrade/downgrade from the note 4. But it will interesting to see if Samsung has learned something and if they will put the removable battery and a micro sd card back into their phones.
But yeah real buttons will always beat out in screen ones

So no one have an issue with this person stating even "low class" people have a Samsung?...Obviously not.
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If you can afford it buy Galaxy S7 or just buy some chinese Android phone.
But I definitely like to have microSD card back on Galaxy S7

You sound pretentious and terrible. Just because a company sells their product successfully does not make them worse. They're still using top of the line, listening to consumers by reinstating the microSD slot. You're not special because you have money to buy better products. If you wanna be so "different" go buy an iPhone. You have the same mindset as an apple fanboy.

Like most phones, upgrading every year isn't very appealing because there's only so much that can be improved. I wouldn't upgrade from a Galaxy S6. But I certainly will from my S5 Sport!

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Really, low class? Well you are the Messiah so I guess everyone is low class to you.

I agree with some of you, I don't seen the point of upgrading every year, there isn't a big enough difference between each years models. I don't mind iPhone once they are jailbroken, I have an iPhone 4 that has been through hell and back with me and still kicking. I have been through a kyocera slide I got stuck in boot loop and bricked a HTC desire. Now have an LG G3 that I love and haven't had any problems. If your going from a device that that is a couple models older and is going obsolete then upgrade, but most of us don't have the money laying around to to by a new phone every year.
Have they even set a release date for the Galaxy D7 yet?

By low class, you have to understand that i am not defining those who have samsung as lower class. its your choice to have it or not. but the thing is that wherever i go, everywhere! people have got either samsung or apple in their hands and to me it feels like its just too many. it just destroys its elegancy and its price tag. i don't know how to explain but I hope i cleared some misconceptions

Not usually one to post, but you're not helping yourself any with your explanation. You still come off as elitist, shallow, and rather petty to be honest.
Who cares how many people have a phone? Are you going to tell me an iPhone isn't nice because millions of people have one? Or that the Galaxy series is suddenly not one of the best phones, simply because more people have it?
I dunno if this is going to be breaking news to you, but with contract subsidies and pricing offers and various discounts, even the most expensive of smartphones are a relatively cheap luxury item. With the modern reliance on cellphones, and mobile data, of course having a good phone is going to be something most people will spend a few extra dollars on. Is it really a newsflash that people want the best? Or did you not consider that most people are flocking to the Galaxy series, and the iPhone lineup, because they have a longstanding legacy of being two of the best, powerhouse smartphones available.
Furthermore.. elegance? Really? They're phones, not watches. They're consumption devices that have increasingly more and more uses.. not just little gadgets people get, to show off how rich or awesome they are. Only the geekiest of the geeks have a nerdgasm about how much more elegant their phone is than the average person. The rest of us standard model geeks would rather just enjoy our phones as the tools that they are, and try to find the one that works best for us.

Well done, ThePheonixChameleon. I totally agree, although what do I know, I'm an inelegant, low-class owner of a Galaxy S4, no less.

There is no need to get a Samsung devuce, because there is OnePlus out there...
I was a great fan of Samsung devices, and I'm still are. But now I have two OnePlus devices and I'm very satisfied with them. So I won't get any other device for now and the near future. :beer:

hella356 said:
Well done, ThePheonixChameleon. I totally agree, although what do I know, I'm an inelegant, low-class owner of a Galaxy S4, no less.
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Ehh, I just picked up my fourth rooted Galaxy S3 off Swappa. Still clinging to that antique, cliche phone.. with it's plastic case and inelegant awesomeness that made it the only phone anyone wanted of it's generation.

I currently own a Galaxy S5 Sport. Great phone, but the first thing I did was flash CM12.1, waiting for CM13. Touchwiz is a piece of ****. Samsung phones are so much better than one would think if you get rid of the garbage stock ROM. I'm not just speaking aesthetically, the performance is atrocious. It's so smooth and never hangs up now, also doesn't force close when trying to do something intensive and the RAM management is much better!

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'm not just speaking aesthetically, the performance is atrocious. It's so smooth and never hangs up now, also doesn't force close when trying to do something intensive and the RAM management is much better!
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Totally agree. I also had a SGS5 before I exchanged it with the OnePlus Two. I tried a lot of different Rom's. The very best I flashed on it was AICP. I was very satisfied with that Rom. Maybe you will try it out. :thumbup:

This phone is bad

Ok so I bought the phone 3-4 months ago and I felt the same way throughout the entier 3-4 months:
THIS PHONE IS GARBAGE. Like straight up, something has to be wrong with the surfaceflinger, GPU drivers or something.
THE ANIMATIONS, OH GOD, THEY ARE SO CHOPPY IT MADE ME REMEMBER MY OLD LG P500.
WHAT IS THIS? Am I the only one feeling this way?
I have 4 phones that I can compare it to: Huawei P9, Galaxy S6, Nexus 5 and a Galaxy J5. THE RN5 IS THE WORST when it comes to scrolling and other things.
The user experience is the worst. It gave me headaches. I feel dizzy while using the phone sometimes because of the change in FPS while scrolling (like it goes from 60fps to 3fps for 50-100ms).
No, nothing is wrong with my phone. I have tested my own and a friends rn5. Its the same.
Is there any ROM or anything that can save me from throwing the phone out the window?

Robert- said:
Ok so I bought the phone 3-4 months ago and I felt the same way throughout the entier 3-4 months:
THIS PHONE IS GARBAGE. Like straight up, something has to be wrong with the surfaceflinger, GPU drivers or something.
THE ANIMATIONS, OH GOD, THEY ARE SO CHOPPY IT MADE ME REMEMBER MY OLD LG P500.
WHAT IS THIS? Am I the only one feeling this way?
I have 4 phones that I can compare it to: Huawei P9, Galaxy S6, Nexus 5 and a Galaxy J5. THE RN5 IS THE WORST when it comes to scrolling and other things.
The user experience is the worst. It gave me headaches. I feel dizzy while using the phone sometimes because of the change in FPS while scrolling (like it goes from 60fps to 3fps for 50-100ms).
No, nothing is wrong with my phone. I have tested my own and a friends rn5. Its the same.
Is there any ROM or anything that can save me from throwing the phone out the window?
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Roms sure have a look in the roms section there's plenty there for you to look at.

Do you have Redmi note 5 pro or redmi note 5? Because it's not the same device (not even same cpu, RN5 has Qualcomm Snapdragon 625, the RN5 Pro has Qualcomm Snapdragon 636...
You sure you are in the right thread?
PS: My RN5 Pro works fine, not sure what you are referring about.

Hi there.
If you really have the SD636 version (Redmi Note 5 Pro or Redmi Note 5 AI Dual) and if you are using STOCK Rom, then your phones (yours and your friends) are not OK.
I would try a hard reset and after that, without extra apps installed, I would check the performance. If it's the same, then I would consider the following:
-Your software is somehow altered or your hardware is bad. Those are even more probable if you both bought them from the same reseller. In that case, I would check with the reseller...
If you still believe that this is not the case and the model, in general, is bad, check around you. Almost everybody, including myself, is pleased with the phone and we are not experiencing your issues.
The Snapdragon 636 is an above average SOC and together with all the other specs, guaranties that you could not experiencing such issues from a healthy phone.

milro1970 said:
Hi there.
If you really have the SD636 version (Redmi Note 5 Pro or Redmi Note 5 AI Dual) and if you are using STOCK Rom, then your phones (yours and your friends) are not OK.
I would try a hard reset and after that, without extra apps installed, I would check the performance. If it's the same, then I would consider the following:
-Your software is somehow altered or your hardware is bad. Those are even more probable if you both bought them from the same reseller. In that case, I would check with the reseller...
If you still believe that this is not the case and the model, in general, is bad, check around you. Almost everybody, including myself, is pleased with the phone and we are not experiencing your issues.
The Snapdragon 636 is an above average SOC and together with all the other specs, guaranties that you could not experiencing such issues from a healthy phone.
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You are but you cant see them.
After playing CSGO at a low latency(+400fps) and doing many things like that (my home monitor has 240Hz) I can see the lag. My friend does not feel it but I do (and I read some people here did notice the lags too).
Take your phone, look at the screen (concentrate on it) and do something over and over again (like going into the messages app and back). You will see that there are slight lags (duration is between 50-100ms).
Nothing is wrong with my or my friends phone Something is wrong with xiaomis ****ty software.
edit: just installed AOSIP Pie and it feels way better than Miui and any other ROM. Might be placebo and my brain being done with the phone.
I will just sell it. I will never ever buy xiaomi again. My nexus 5 feels smoother than this garbage.

Robert- said:
Ok so I bought the phone 3-4 months ago and I felt the same way throughout the entier 3-4 months:
THIS PHONE IS GARBAGE. Like straight up, something has to be wrong with the surfaceflinger, GPU drivers or something.
THE ANIMATIONS, OH GOD, THEY ARE SO CHOPPY IT MADE ME REMEMBER MY OLD LG P500.
WHAT IS THIS? Am I the only one feeling this way?
I have 4 phones that I can compare it to: Huawei P9, Galaxy S6, Nexus 5 and a Galaxy J5. THE RN5 IS THE WORST when it comes to scrolling and other things.
The user experience is the worst. It gave me headaches. I feel dizzy while using the phone sometimes because of the change in FPS while scrolling (like it goes from 60fps to 3fps for 50-100ms).
No, nothing is wrong with my phone. I have tested my own and a friends rn5. Its the same.
Is there any ROM or anything that can save me from throwing the phone out the window?
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Some people says that treble pie gsi is smoother than any other rom, but didn't test it for now
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Btw some people goes to changing kernels and oc, and i tried that also but didn't notice that difference i was looking for also this isn't a reliable solution in a long term

Well, I would take your word for that but maybe after all there is something you could use to check the issue and perhaps quantify it.
So, If you enable the Developer Options on your phone, you may run the kind of tests you are describing after you select: On Screen as bars, under Profile GPU Rendering in Developer Options.
Long bars above the base line indicate, I think, lag and micro-stutters. If you pinpoint how your lags correlate with the bars you see on your mobile screen, you can take some screenshots (or even a video) and show us what you mean.
Then we could run, more or less, the same tests on our phones and see if there is a difference or not. In the end we may be able to understand the situation better.
Who knows, perhaps you could be on something, the rest of us haven't noticed....

On bootleggers 2.3

If you just install Rom and some small apps, Nexus 5 will give you better feeling but with full apps and need battery life, it will be different story

i dont have any issue with the performance of this phone ,its better than my unrootable mate 8/9 , but the build quality and hardware totally sucks , theres ghost image everywhere, and the screen looks so ugly now because of screen retention issue .

Buy phone for 140$ dollars, then cry that its not as smooth as his 140hz monitor. Lmao, trully. Phone is great, it doesnt lag, every reviewer will say the same, and believe me, they have more expirience with phones than you do. Ofcourse, i dont think that its smoother than say iphone for 1000$, but its a god damm 140 dollars device. Ive been on xda many years, and noticed that the cheaper the phone is, the ****tier the forum is. Please, by all means, show me a smoother/better device for for this price, then i can atleast take this rant seriously, because as of now, you just talk nonsense.

You need SoC more than 800 processor phone. Never buy less than that. That is downgrade for you , so you will have some lags. For most people having this phone is better than redmi note 3 or 4x which they already got . So we enjoy this good phone for this prize .

Not Good..
Robert- said:
Ok so I bought the phone 3-4 months ago and I felt the same way throughout the entier 3-4 months:
THIS PHONE IS GARBAGE. Like straight up, something has to be wrong with the surfaceflinger, GPU drivers or something.
THE ANIMATIONS, OH GOD, THEY ARE SO CHOPPY IT MADE ME REMEMBER MY OLD LG P500.
WHAT IS THIS?
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After playing CSGO at a low latency(+400fps) and doing many things like that (my home monitor has 240Hz) I can see the lag.
I will just sell it. I will never ever buy xiaomi again. My nexus 5 feels smoother than this garbage.
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Just Exactly Are You Trying To Accomplish?...
You are a SENIOR MEMBER.. with over 370 posts..
And you come here and present yourself as a *TROLL*.
With this much time spent here at XDA.. you should be conducting yourself in a much more mature manner.
If this device does not work for you, fair enough.. follow your Own Advice.. and simply sell it.
It's as though you are here looking for some sort of approval.. or, are trying to convince others to sell their Note 5 Pros.
You Are Only Complaining To Yourself... And you are inviting conforntation with other members.
Please.. Keep Your Complaints and Dissapointments of the Note 5 Pro to yourself.. and just move on. :angel:

Incogn said:
Buy phone for 140$ dollars, then cry that its not as smooth as his 140hz monitor. Lmao, trully. Phone is great, it doesnt lag, every reviewer will say the same, and believe me, they have more expirience with phones than you do. Ofcourse, i dont think that its smoother than say iphone for 1000$, but its a god damm 140 dollars device. Ive been on xda many years, and noticed that the cheaper the phone is, the ****tier the forum is. Please, by all means, show me a smoother/better device for for this price, then i can atleast take this rant seriously, because as of now, you just talk nonsense.
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Dude, I compared it with my OLD NEXUS 5 and my ****ing GALAXY J5, phones with bad processors. Im NOT CRYING that my cheap phone is bad, im crying that xiaomi is doing something wrong.
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i dont have any issue with the performance of this phone ,its better than my unrootable mate 8/9 , but the build quality and hardware totally sucks , theres ghost image everywhere, and the screen looks so ugly now because of screen retention issue .
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Same. Also bad signal.
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On bootleggers 2.3
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Finaly someone sees the problem..holy ****..
RaiderWill said:
Just Exactly Are You Trying To Accomplish?...
You are a SENIOR MEMBER.. with over 370 posts..
And you come here and present yourself as a *TROLL*.
With this much time spent here at XDA.. you should be conducting yourself in a much more mature manner.
If this device does not work for you, fair enough.. follow your Own Advice.. and simply sell it.
It's as though you are here looking for some sort of approval.. or, are trying to convince others to sell their Note 5 Pros.
You Are Only Complaining To Yourself... And you are inviting conforntation with other members.
Please.. Keep Your Complaints and Dissapointments of the Note 5 Pro to yourself.. and just move on. :angel:
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Your post doesnt make sense either buddy. Are you here just to cry about me crying about the phone? What am I trying to accomplish:? Its simple: im trying to look for an answear and also maybe some help.
for everyone that is crying:
1) Im comparing the 140$ to a 30$ nexus 5 with a 32Bit snapdragon 800. The problem is not the phone or price, its the laggy experience. Its a little bit hard to see but after you see it you cant unsee. There was a guy in the pixel experience extended who started crying that his phone is lagging now and it wasnt before (using miui and other roms). His phone is fine, its just the fact that he saw the lag.
2) Stop crying about **** like „REVIEWERS SAID THE PHONE IS FAST!!! BEST PHONE FOR 140$!!!!!!”. I couldnt care less about what random paid reviewers said about a phone.
3) I just tested a Nokia with a snap 636 and a Zenfone 5. Both of them were way smoother, it felt a lot better than this garbage.

Robert- said:
Dude, I compared it with my OLD NEXUS 5 and my ****ing GALAXY J5, phones with bad processors. Im NOT CRYING that my cheap phone is bad, im crying that xiaomi is doing something wrong.
Same. Also bad signal.
Finaly someone sees the problem..holy ****..
Your post doesnt make sense either buddy. Are you here just to cry about me crying about the phone? What am I trying to accomplish:? Its simple: im trying to look for an answear and also maybe some help.
for everyone that is crying:
1) Im comparing the 140$ to a 30$ nexus 5 with a 32Bit snapdragon 800. The problem is not the phone or price, its the laggy experience. Its a little bit hard to see but after you see it you cant unsee. There was a guy in the pixel experience extended who started crying that his phone is lagging now and it wasnt before (using miui and other roms). His phone is fine, its just the fact that he saw the lag.
2) Stop crying about **** like „REVIEWERS SAID THE PHONE IS FAST!!! BEST PHONE FOR 140$!!!!!!”. I couldnt care less about what random paid reviewers said about a phone.
3) I just tested a Nokia with a snap 636 and a Zenfone 5. Both of them were way smoother, it felt a lot better than this garbage.
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Well just shows how little you know about phones, if compared to nexus 5, redmi note 5 is **** for you. Because it just happens that i also posses nexus 5, and that device is piece of ****. Horrible camera, even more horrid battery, cheap plastic build. Come on.. You are bashing this phone because damn animations arent smooth enough for you, LMAO. Im not even gonna keep arguing, because its useless and not even funny anymore. Then sell the device and enjoy your nexus 5. Oh, and you probably are more qualified and proffesional than the rest of whole fu***** world, because every reviewer praise this phone, and it just happens to be best selling device of low/mid range.

Wow, what's this XDA?
Simple as that, if you are not satisfied, sell the phone. I have a S7 here next to me and my redmi note 5 global is as good or in some points better than the S7. I've had every S1 to S7, except the S4. I had a Nexus 5, Oneplus One etc. etc Ok I don't play games on it, but camera and batt wise I am more than triple satisfied over the S7.
The redmi note has micro stutters, guess what. the S7 is sometimes worse.
Just sell it, it's not worth arguing with people. If this is your last Xiaomi, then yes so be it. The Oneplus One was my first and my last Oneplus, it was a fantastic phone which I personally recommended to a lot of people but someone I recommended one to got absolute **** after service and I refuse to buy another one because of this.
If other people are satisfied then let them be satisfied, you don't have to be.

lukesan said:
Wow, what's this XDA?
Simple as that, if you are not satisfied, sell the phone. I have a S7 here next to me and my redmi note 5 global is as good or in some points better than the S7. I've had every S1 to S7, except the S4. I had a Nexus 5, Oneplus One etc. etc Ok I don't play games on it, but camera and batt wise I am more than triple satisfied over the S7.
The redmi note has micro stutters, guess what. the S7 is sometimes worse.
Just sell it, it's not worth arguing with people. If this is your last Xiaomi, then yes so be it. The Oneplus One was my first and my last Oneplus, it was a fantastic phone which I personally recommended to a lot of people but someone I recommended one to got absolute **** after service and I refuse to buy another one because of this.
If other people are satisfied then let them be satisfied, you don't have to be.
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Someone with a working brain. I made the thread asking for help, not for idi.. to tell me that i have a problem with my device or anything like that.
I just asked if anyone is experiencing this (and yes, someone people has ).
I didnt start the thread to fight with randoms on the internet. Its like I attacked their family and they have to protect it..
I am just asking for some help. Maybe a proper ROM, kernel, anything that would make my experience better. What did I get? Randoms from india crying that this is the best device and a guy talking about battery and camera while my problem was user experience.

I will just share my experience regarding this, I agree about the part of speed but there are a few points here, For example when we talk about Nexus 5 as the OP mentioned you must keep in mind that you’re talking about pure android system, no extra modifications, no custom UI, no custom apps…etc and that makes a huge difference when it comes to speed that’s for sure, in the case of nexus 5 and the similar phones which come with stock android (from the manufactures) the ROM is bug free or with the minimal bugs, on the other side the ROMs which have their own UI like Xaiomi, Sony, HTC…etc, no doubt it won’t be smooth as the pure android due to the UI modifications and the custom apps, you can easily flash a custom ROM to enjoy the speed but what about stability and the features that you will lose? I will talk about my previous device which was Sony Xperia Z2, I flashed all the custom ROMs which were available, much more speedy than the stock ROM but here are SOME of the issues I had, can’t use WIFI 5GHz, Mic issues and echo (good enough reason to rollback to stock), overheating, can’t select the network manually, some games can’t start at all…and much more.
The problem is how to find a ROM which balances between the speed and stability and this isn’t easy, the solution for the people who are looking for the speed and don't care that much about UI is to choose a device which comes with a pure android system.
Again, I’m just sharing my experience and no offense to anyone

rocker00 said:
I will just share my experience regarding this, I agree about the part of speed but there are a few points here, For example when we talk about Nexus 5 as the OP mentioned you must keep in mind that you’re talking about pure android system, no extra modifications, no custom UI, no custom apps…etc and that makes a huge difference when it comes to speed that’s for sure, in the case of nexus 5 and the similar phones which come with stock android (from the manufactures) the ROM is bug free or with the minimal bugs, on the other side the ROMs which have their own UI like Xaiomi, Sony, HTC…etc, no doubt it won’t be smooth as the pure android due to the UI modifications and the custom apps, you can easily flash a custom ROM to enjoy the speed but what about stability and the features that you will lose? I will talk about my previous device which was Sony Xperia Z2, I flashed all the custom ROMs which were available, much more speedy than the stock ROM but here are SOME of the issues I had, can’t use WIFI 5GHz, Mic issues and echo (good enough reason to rollback to stock), overheating, can’t select the network manually, some games can’t start at all…and much more.
The problem is how to find a ROM which balances between the speed and stability and this isn’t easy, the solution for the people who are looking for the speed and don't care that much about UI is to choose a device which comes with a pure android system.
Again, I’m just sharing my experience and no offense to anyone
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I compared LineageOS 15.1 on my old N5 and LineageOS 15.1 (and other ROMs) on RN5. Something is wrong but I dont know what..

htchd2sucks said:
Do you have Redmi note 5 pro or redmi note 5? Because it's not the same device (not even same cpu, RN5 has Qualcomm Snapdragon 625, the RN5 Pro has Qualcomm Snapdragon 636...
You sure you are in the right thread?
PS: My RN5 Pro works fine, not sure what you are referring about.
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some ppl must stop saying those things )
we are not in an indian forum so no ..... i have Redmi Note 5 with SD636 , there isn't any device with name RN5Pro outside of India .... in the whole world (except india of course) the device with the SD636 is the Redmi Note 5 (put also the AI if you want, doesn't matter) , the device with the 625 is the Redmi 5 Plus .-

Are you still happy with your tab s6? If you went back in time would you buy the same tablet again?

I like it, but I think I'd have waited for the m1 ipad pro.
I currently use an ipad mini 5 and Air 4, and the difference is night and day.
I love the oled screen, a lot of Samsung's nifty touches and Dex but...
The keyboard sucks (and costs a LOT), browsers are buggy, Bluetooth keyboards ttyyyypeee likkkkkkke thiiiiiss, apps don't really look or feel great because they aren't optimised for tablets, the life cycle is relatively short, both the face and fingerprint unlock are limited, without a samsung phone it won't send messages (ipad sends imessage) and syncing is limited, the vibrate motor is really annoying (why is the tablet vibrating ??) And there are hosts of annoying bugs that crop up from time to time.
I really love it for what it is, but it can't replace a laptop or allow me to put down the phone and just allow me to use the tablet, forgetting the phone. Ipad can do all of that for me.
I definitely think that, since nexus and pixel android tablets don't exist anymore, Samsung tabs are by far the best android tablet experience we are likely to get, and I like it much more than a chrome book tablet (let's leave Windows out if this, separate class of device), but if I was buying again, I wouldn't pick this up.
Do I have fun on it? Yes. It's it powerful? Yes. It's it the best choice for me? No.
I love all operating systems, my preference changes year by year depending on what is available, and if I was to go for android in the near future, the fold 3 would get my money.
What about you?

Yes, I do love it a lot after two years The HW, screen , sound etc. are just unbeaton. It's extremely thin and light. So I hold it easly in the left hand and type wuth the right We don't have to talk about Apple`s closed system, which can't be real,y modified or changed like android does. So waiting for the last major update to OneUi 4 After that I might root it ... .
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meduza said:
Yes, I do love it a lot after two years The HW, screen , sound etc. are just unbeaton. It's extremely thin and light. So I hold it easly in the left hand and type wuth the right We don't have to talk about Apple`s closed system, which can't be real,y modified or changed like android does. So waiting for the last major update to OneUi 4 After that I might root it ... .
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Exactly the same
I tried tab s7: no oled and not better in any other way
S7+: too big. Its as big as my MS surface book 3 when detached
I got the lte version and as soon as I am at home my tablet replaces my phone completely. I would buy it again as it is with the kickstand (I actually like the kickstand but hate fact that it makes the tab more bulky) and they keyboard, even if I almost never have to use it. But when I do, (too lazy to leave the bed) I'm happy to have it

+1
In case of tab S6 it was the LTE option to get the maximum on HW, in case of tab s7 its the size. Unfortunately with the phones it's the same. Size decides about performance.
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Yes I have been happy with mine. What is the eol for this tablet for updates.

Probably not. I mainly bought it in hopes of custom ROMs (and maybe even running pure Linux on it), or Linux on Dex support (even if rooting is needed). Sadly neither panned out, and we're left with a device that is amazing all around on a hardware level, but is limited by the OS.
I really wish someone picked up native Linux development on it, even a barebones Linux distro support would be awesome (though I'm quite partial to Debian/Ubuntu).

fonix232 said:
Probably not. I mainly bought it in hopes of custom ROMs (and maybe even running pure Linux on it), or Linux on Dex support (even if rooting is needed). Sadly neither panned out, and we're left with a device that is amazing all around on a hardware level, but is limited by the OS.
I really wish someone picked up native Linux development on it, even a barebones Linux distro support would be awesome (though I'm quite partial to Debian/Ubuntu).
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Agree. I'm probably going to sell mine. Sad because the hardware build is pretty awesome. Just bought a s6 lite to mod.

fonix232 said:
Probably not. I mainly bought it in hopes of custom ROMs (and maybe even running pure Linux on it), or Linux on Dex support (even if rooting is needed). Sadly neither panned out, and we're left with a device that is amazing all around on a hardware level, but is limited by the OS.
I really wish someone picked up native Linux development on it, even a barebones Linux distro support would be awesome (though I'm quite partial to Debian/Ubuntu).
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I bought it with the same premise, I was almost sure we will have Linux on dex, and they just abandoned the project.
It's really sad tbh, the machine is great though spec wise but I'll certainly won't give in on premises when I'll upgrade.
Most likely a windows hybrid machine for me so I can have Linux too or an iPad.

As I see it, our tab s6 LTE is the last tab this size with such excellent HW. Tab S8 doesn't even have an AMOLED screen. S8 ultra is definitely to big for how I use it with one hand ... .
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fonix232 said:
Probably not. I mainly bought it in hopes of custom ROMs (and maybe even running pure Linux on it), or Linux on Dex support (even if rooting is needed). Sadly neither panned out, and we're left with a device that is amazing all around on a hardware level, but is limited by the OS.
I really wish someone picked up native Linux development on it, even a barebones Linux distro support would be awesome (though I'm quite partial to Debian/Ubuntu).
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Yes. Even rooted it's a PIA to (kinda) constrain Samsung & Google apps.

Overall it's been a pretty good tablet. I must say I'm surprised at the lack of community development for it. I do tire of the warnings when utilizing full brightness and loudest audio. Not buying the new one, way too big. I'll hold out for a bit, and see what else comes out.

+1 ! And we might even get android 13
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At the time I bought my Tab S6 it was the only high-end Android tablet on the market, so I feel like I didn't have a choice. I've never like liked Samsung's UIs, they're always half baked copies of Apple and without all the thought and polish. On top of that, forcing junk like Bixby and their own app store incredibly annoying.
Like others in this thread I really hopped that we see some cool ROMs for it, but alas, we're all stuck with the dumpster fire that is One UI. At the end of the day though, it was worth the money, even if it is to say that at least I'm don't have an Apple constantly sucking money out of my wallet.

I bought mine on ebay, and the seller LIED.
I thought I was getting the 8GB RAM/256GB model, but he shipped me the 6GB /125GB unit. I demanded a return, but he sent me back a large partial refund. So I got the 2nd best tablet for pretty cheap. And I love it. Initially I was going to resell it & get the 8GB model, but I have no performance issues at all. Of course I can't stand all of Samsung's bloat, but right now it does everything I need. I usually root all my devices to get rid of all the bloat & stop the ads, but since this is WIFI only, the only place I use it is at home. The limited ad block in my Tomato router stops most of it, I may never root it. I would definitely buy this again, but I would like to try the 8GB model.

mvanwey said:
I bought mine on ebay, and the seller LIED.
I thought I was getting the 8GB RAM/256GB model, but he shipped me the 6GB /125GB unit. I demanded a return, but he sent me back a large partial refund. So I got the 2nd best tablet for pretty cheap. And I love it. Initially I was going to resell it & get the 8GB model, but I have no performance issues at all. Of course I can't stand all of Samsung's bloat, but right now it does everything I need. I usually root all my devices to get rid of all the bloat & stop the ads, but since this is WIFI only, the only place I use it is at home. The limited ad block in my Tomato router stops most of it, I may never root it. I would definitely buy this again, but I would like to try the 8GB model.
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I've my since September 2019 and also still not rooted - unusual for me but I really don't see any reason - private DNS blocks ads without any hassle
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i had been waited for so long to grap my tab s6 wifi since tab s(1)
wanted to upgrade but the feedbacks were not impreesive for tab s2 to s5, and they didn't include a spen, so tab s6 was definitely my choice
i like apple's design but i hate those proprietary things, and i never own one
i like oled so tab s6 lite, tab s7, tab s8 are not my cup of tea. but for the oled versions they are too expensive and in fact, they are too heavy for me so, no go. more, i am not a fan of punch hole thing
i am satisfied with my tab s6, the only thing is there is no custom roms or kernels as mentioed by @DaveImagery . i planned to make a custom kernel but i cant handle another device at the same time now (getting older and older, wont be able to open over 1000 files to work with anymore) as i am still working on the note9 kernel
@meduza hopefully we will get 13 but according to the news only the 5G version will have an upgrade to 13

@ykkfive
absolutely +1 regarding AMOLED and tab s7 and s8 ! My tab s6 LTE was also an upgrade from tab S
Yeah, I saw also something about android 13 and tab s6 5g ... . But there is still hope though m.

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@ykkfive
absolutely +1 regarding AMOLED and tab s7 and s8 ! My tab s6 LTE was also an upgrade from tab S
Yeah, I saw also something about android 13 and tab s6 5g ... . But there is still hope though m.
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yeah
and if it doesnt, it should be easily ported to 860 easily, with doubts for 865

ykkfive said:
yeah
and if it doesnt, it should be easily ported to 860 easily, with doubts for 865
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... I thought opposite might be the case becouse T865 has an Lte baseband build in ...
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Arobase40 said:
Got the same problem with Amazon Germany as I ordered a 8/256 GB T860 version but received a 6/128 GB version by October 2019 !
Got a full refund and as I thought it was a mistake I placed a new order again for the 8/256 GB but again received a 6/128 GB version !!! Grrrrr
Once again got a full refund and finally placed my order for the 8/256 GB model on Samsung France website as by the meantime I received a promo code to get the Samsung Cover keyboard for free...
I never received any ads with non rooted Samsung devices from Samsung and it's very easy to remove bloatwares with adb command even if you are not rooted !!!
I finally rooted my Tab S6 mostly to preserve my privacy and my security ! ^^
Amoled Tab S7 or Tab S8 are too big for me so I will keep this Tab S6 as long as possible...
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Unbelievable! Like something wanted to prevent that you get the T865 version ... ;-)
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