[GPS & BATTERY] GPS always on in High Accuracy - ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
is there a battery penalty to always leave the GPS on & in high accuracy assuming no application actually needs it?
thanks,

TheNerd said:
Hi,
is there a battery penalty to always leave the GPS on & in high accuracy assuming no application actually needs it?
thanks,
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Yes, because there is never a moment when no application uses it because there is always a background service using it at any single moment =3=

I used to leave mine on battery saver because I was afraid of battery usage. My wife's phone got lost once and we couldn't pin point it directly through android manager. Like it was off a bit.
Maybe it wasn't the cause but I feel like since the phone was on battery saver we couldn't pin point its accurate location.
Ever since then I leave my phone on high accuracy and really notice no battery difference. Most apps don't use the GPS for anything.
Google now is the only one I see using it and it's for a split second.

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how come battery ran out so quickly?

I'm on HTC Sense for the today screen and the battery just almost die in 1 day?
anyone do something to fix it?
Hi, well I don't really get the same problem as people on this forum regarding the battery. On normal usage I have to charge the phone every 2 or 3 days. Maybe its just the way I use my phone...
Heres a few suggestions:
Try disabling the auto backlight function and setting brightness to just 10%. Afterall the big screen goes someway to eating up the battery.
Turn off any functions you aren't currently using. i.e. turn off bluetooth, wifi, hspda etc when you dont need them.
Also have you done a true full charge yet? It took me 3 full charges. i.e. use phone until 2% or there abouts. Then charge fully overnight. I did this 3 times and noticed the battery life got better. Others may tell you don't need to. But that is just my experience so i would share it with you.
Hope some of that can help.
I have expirenced increased battery life by disabling the HTC location services and GPS assist (quick GPS). Actually a dramatical improvement, which could also be expirenced by checking the temperature of the device.With GPS assist and location services turned on, the device was hot, and with the services disables it was *a lot* colder...
/Lars
cfu said:
Hi, well I don't really get the same problem as people on this forum regarding the battery. On normal usage I have to charge the phone every 2 or 3 days. Maybe its just the way I use my phone...
Heres a few suggestions:
Try disabling the auto backlight function and setting brightness to just 10%. Afterall the big screen goes someway to eating up the battery.
Turn off any functions you aren't currently using. i.e. turn off bluetooth, wifi, hspda etc when you dont need them.
Also have you done a true full charge yet? It took me 3 full charges. i.e. use phone until 2% or there abouts. Then charge fully overnight. I did this 3 times and noticed the battery life got better. Others may tell you don't need to. But that is just my experience so i would share it with you.
Hope some of that can help.
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disbled the backlight now. 10% brightness? it is alittle too dim? I will stick for 40%. It sucks the battery too quickly, so i charge it when it was down to 10%.
Next time I will do it when it on 2%, and check out the difference
Quark987 said:
I have expirenced increased battery life by disabling the HTC location services and GPS assist (quick GPS). Actually a dramatical improvement, which could also be expirenced by checking the temperature of the device.With GPS assist and location services turned on, the device was hot, and with the services disables it was *a lot* colder...
/Lars
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quick GPS was never on, i believed...
WOW...the HTC location was on all the time, it that why I got the gps bar like in 20seconds?
nbjring123 said:
disbled the backlight now. 10% brightness? it is alittle too dim? I will stick for 40%. It sucks the battery too quickly, so i charge it when it was down to 10%.
Next time I will do it when it on 2%, and check out the difference
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how did you disabled the backlight ?

Does turninf off Google Now increase battery life significantly?

I was just wondering this because my battery seems to go a bit too fast.
I am convinced there are things I can do to limit this drain somewhat.
I already manually change brightness.
Also the wireless charger I use makes the battery hot sometimes. (maybe related)
coolkingler1 said:
I was just wondering this because my battery seems to go a bit too fast.
I am convinced there are things I can do to limit this drain somewhat.
I already manually change brightness.
Also the wireless charger I use makes the battery hot sometimes. (maybe related)
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You'd be better served to adjust your location to battery saving mode and set your location reporting to OFF before simply turning off Google Now.
Give those a shot first and monitor your battery life for any increase.
coolkingler1 said:
I was just wondering this because my battery seems to go a bit too fast.
I am convinced there are things I can do to limit this drain somewhat.
I already manually change brightness.
Also the wireless charger I use makes the battery hot sometimes. (maybe related)
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It did a lot for me and since I really didn't use it, I turned it off.
pwrmedia said:
You'd be better served to adjust your location to battery saving mode and set your location reporting to OFF before simply turning off Google Now.
Give those a shot first and monitor your battery life for any increase.
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If you turn those off, what's the point of Google Now? Might as well turn it off, right?
I will try both, but I think did turn off the GPS thing already.
aooga said:
It did a lot for me and since I really didn't use it, I turned it off.
If you turn those off, what's the point of Google Now? Might as well turn it off, right?
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Turning off location reporting and adjusting your location mode doesn't mean you have to turn off Google Now. You can still use the feature just fine w/o those extra battery draining options.
Google Now itself doesn't drain much battery but the types of cards you have it pull up for you certainly can. Weather updates will wake your phone, as will location based cards.
I use mine with Locations off just for sports updates, search recommendations and reminder support. It will never wake my phone and battery drain is minimal.

Is Google Location Reporting the hidden battery Vampire?

Hi Guys,
I'm a casual user and usually get 2 days out of my battery with roughly 1-2 hours of screen time. I manage my wifi/data and have, "battery saver," mode set in my location settings.
A few days ago, my battery was on 70% when I went to bed. I awoke in the middle of the day and realised that my alarm had not gone off. The phone had turned off and when I turned it on, the battery was down at 3% and Google Search had consumed the battery.
Having a look around to find any possible reason, I stubbled on the, "Location Reporting," settings which were both on. I've now turned these both off and my battery life seems to loose 25% per day rather than the usual 50% per day.
What are your experiences with Location Reporting Settings and Battery Life?
Thanks.
Edit: just done another cycle and I am certainly 10 to 20 better battery wise than with location reporting on.
I'd say no, as it doesn't affect me and I have mine on high accuracy. I am 100% stock (not even unlocked bootloader) and haven't changed any settings away from default in any app I have installed (which isn't many)
Mine has always been on high accuracy. I've used 18% of my battery in the last 10 hours. I would check your navigation isn't running.
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I don't think OP is referring to the high accuracy setting, but the google location reporting menu below.
I have them both off from the beginning, frankly I don't know if it makes any impact to the batttery life.
I think it does make somewhat of a difference. If I turn it off I can squeeze out maybe 20-30mins of extra screen on time. Mind you, I am a heavy user and sometimes I run into deadspots so take that for what its worth.
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xdviper said:
I think it does make somewhat of a difference. If I turn it off I can squeeze out maybe 20-30mins of extra screen on time. Mind you, I am a heavy user, and charge my phone sometimes twice a day. sometimes I will run into deadspots, and that will also cause the battery to die quicker, so take that for what its worth.
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bloot said:
I don't think OP is referring to the high accuracy setting, but the google location reporting menu below.
I have them both off from the beginning, frankly I don't know if it makes any impact to the batttery life.
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That's correct :good:, I'm referring to the reporting menu below.
Ever since I updated to the latest google play services (4.5.1 I think) battery drain issued have been solved.
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YES. I turned off both Location History and Location Reporting and my phone has way less wakelocks and battery usage. But just leave the regular location setting on High Accuracy...
Your phone will last forever!
I've run my phone with Location History and Reporting and Google Now on. What I noticed was many more wakelocks at the end of the day but with surprisingly little difference in actual battery usage. It has gotten much much better IME as far as actual battery toll.
Tw1tchy said:
Ever since I updated to the latest google play services (4.5.1 I think) battery drain issued have been solved.
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I'm on 4.2.39. The play store is not asking me to update the services app so I presume I'm on the latest version?
Masteryates said:
I'm on 4.2.39. The play store is not asking me to update the services app so I presume I'm on the latest version?
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That's weird I'm on 4.1.32 (just checked). Maybe try installing latest gapps package? I had problems with cataclysm ROM in December. Then a new play services update came out and no more wake locks.
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Tw1tchy said:
That's weird I'm on 4.1.32 (just checked). Maybe try installing latest gapps package? I had problems with cataclysm ROM in December. Then a new play services update came out and no more wake locks.
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Thanks for looking, I'm on stock 4.4.2. What prompted me to look at my settings was just the random chronic battery drain. Google keep saying they have fixed things and they appear to be right. Then out of nowhere, I get a random drain. It's happened 3 times now meaning I get to work hours late....
Google collects anonymous location data from your phone even when location reporting and history are turned off (also did it when on device only mode).
It caused a lot of wake locks for me. I've found a way to still be able to use the GPS without all the wake locks. Simply switch off location totally, then reenable but disagree to the Google terms. Phone sleeps all the time now.
However I'm not quite sure how much battery these wake locks consume and if it's worth losing the instant location access and Google Now features. That's why I'm running my phone this way for a couple of days to test the battery life both with ART and Dalvik to see, if it makes a difference and how big that difference is.
Btw, I also only have Play Services 4.1.32. Does that depend on which region we live in? I would also like to see, if 4.5 would make the battery life better...
cawith said:
Google collects anonymous location data from your phone even when location reporting and history are turned off (also did it when on device only mode).
It caused a lot of wake locks for me. I've found a way to still be able to use the GPS without all the wake locks. Simply switch off location totally, then reenable but disagree to the Google terms. Phone sleeps all the time now.
However I'm not quite sure how much battery these wake locks consume and if it's worth losing the instant location access and Google Now features. That's why I'm running my phone this way for a couple of days to test the battery life both with ART and Dalvik to see, if it makes a difference and how big that difference is.
Btw, I also only have Play Services 4.1.32. Does that depend on which region we live in? I would also like to see, if 4.5 would make the battery life better...
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Services went to 4.2.40 last night. I'm still going to run without the location reporting on to see if I can get longer than my usual 2 days.
Would be nice to get hear from another nexus 4/5 user who in the past has had location reporting on and has now turned it off.
Masteryates said:
Services went to 4.2.40 last night. I'm still going to run without the location reporting on to see if I can get longer than my usual 2 days.
Would be nice to get hear from another nexus 4/5 user who in the past has had location reporting on and has now turned it off.
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Hm, I still have the same old version. Would it be dangerous to sideload an updated version of Play Services? Is that even possible?
cawith said:
Hm, I still have the same old version. Would it be dangerous to sideload an updated version of Play Services? Is that even possible?
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My updated version came via an update of the search or maps app. I don't know about side loading or how you would get hold of the apk.
So does the update improve the battery life or not? It's really a placebo at best during the big update.
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So does the update improve the battery life or not? It's really a placebo at best during the big update.
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I'd say I've seen no difference. However, consistent battery life is important to me even if not that good. The real killer is when something like Google search decides to eat my battery in the course of a night.
I've read in other threads that if you don't have quality LTE in your area, the phone uses up mucho battery, trying to maintain/improve the LTE connection (searching for better LTE service). But those with quality LTE service don't have such issues.
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I've read in other threads that if you don't have quality LTE in your area, the phone uses up mucho battery, trying to maintain/improve the LTE connection (searching for better LTE service). But those with quality LTE service don't have such issues.
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Doesn't seem to matter what network you are on, 3g/4g, if your phone is searching for the signal all of the time, your battery will take a real hammering.

[Q] Disappointing battery life.

I heard good reviews about battery life of Moto G but mine's battery life is disappointing, could you please see my stats and tell me if its normal or something is wrong.
There can be many factors why battery life is that worse. Bad programmed apps, Wifi always on, screen time, call duration, running background processes and so on. Most times i switch my data connection off if i don't need it. I run my phone since 2 days and 8 hours and my battery is on 9% at the moment. As i see your wifi was always on. Try switching it off.
mokkami said:
There can be many factors why battery life is that worse. Bad programmed apps, Wifi always on, screen time, call duration, running background processes and so on. Most times i switch my data connection off if i don't need it. I run my phone since 2 days and 8 hours and my battery is on 9% at the moment. As i see your wifi was always on. Try switching it off.
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Screen on time is around 4 hours, I haven't called even for a second or used my data connection yet, but I keep wifi always on because I thought it causes lesser battery drain.
How can always wifi on cause lesser battery drain?
Don't know, sounds unlogical to me.
4 hours screen on? Phuu........did not try it but i guess it is normal if you have your screen 4 hours on.
What are you expecting? Switching everyting on and then have a two days battery life?
See yourself on your graph how battery got better when screen was off. Now switch off wifi and try again.
In my opinion i don't see any problem with your phone.
Maybe someone might correct me if someone feels that i am .....
mokkami said:
How can always wifi on cause lesser battery drain?
Don't know, sounds unlogical to me.
4 hours screen on? Phuu........did not try it but i guess it is normal if you have your screen 4 hours on.
What are you expecting? Switching everyting on and then have a two days battery life?
See yourself on your graph how battery got better when screen was off. Now switch off wifi and try again.
In my opinion i don't see any problem with your phone.
Maybe someone might correct me if someone feels that i am .....
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I thought Wifi uses lesser battery than 3G and I expected 20 hours battery atleast.
I see your Wifi is working all the time. Are you aware of this?
In some JB Android version google implemented automatic Wifi networks scanning (probably for their purposes), even when Wifi switch swhows "disabled".
You can disable it, maybe it can save some battery: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2422689,00.asp
Cheers.
Install BetterBatteryStats and see if there's any wakelocks that are eating your battery at the moment.
Also, about your on screen time - what's the settings for brightness that you use? You might want to consider dropping the "auto" and go for a reasonable low level of brightness that fits your indoor or outdoor activities.
Your assumption of WiFi eating less batter than data connection is correct in most of the cases.
Anyway, if you have any doubts about this... an average NOTE3 user can't get to those 3h 30minutes with on screen time
darkeingel said:
Install BetterBatteryStats and see if there's any wakelocks that are eating your battery at the moment.
Also, about your on screen time - what's the settings for brightness that you use? You might want to consider dropping the "auto" and go for a reasonable low level of brightness that fits your indoor or outdoor activities.
Your assumption of WiFi eating less batter than data connection is correct in most of the cases.
Anyway, if you have any doubts about this... an average NOTE3 user can't get to those 3h 30minutes with on screen time
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2538691
Your battery is normal with so much screen on time.
It does look disappointing,i get a lot more than that but mine is rooted and greenified and set up how i like it.
Im currently on 1d 18h and have 39% left with 4 hour screen time and that's with a mixture of wifi and 3G.
i enable airplane mode overnight though which only uses 1% in 8 hours.
I'd say that's normal battery life for this phone here's mine for today.
I'd agree with the previous post.
I've been on a WiFi network for the past 7 hours.
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Battery life has been disappointing ever since smart phones got on the market... Oh good old Nokia 3310 how I miss your battery performance
Seriously something needs to be invented, this cannot be tolerated any longer.
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svetievboris said:
Battery life has been disappointing ever since smart phones got on the market... Oh good old Nokia 3310 how I miss your battery performance
Seriously something needs to be invented, this cannot be tolerated any longer.
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LOL. I miss my old Nokia too but face it. That old Nokia had a tiny screen and did little more than phone calls and texts.
I've had a few androids and The G is by far the best in terms of battery life.
I miss my indistructable Nokia but I wouldn't go back
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Motorola is advertising this phone as all day battery phone so shouldn't it last more than 12/14 hours.
A car manufacturer also advertises his car with 500 km per full fuel tank. But if you drive all the time with 170 km/h per hour over the highway then this statement can also not be applyed anymore. As i said, i switch on wifi only when i need it and thats the same with data. I had a battery life for nearly 72 hours. Ok i made also less calls in that time. But it is all about your usage. I for my opinion can not find any problem as i said already. Motorola advertised nowhere that you can use your phone under "full load" for a whole day. This is called marketing in todays world. If you be believe everything what advertisement says then you seem for me very naive....... you should think about that
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A car manufacturer also advertises his car with 500 km per full fuel tank. But if you drive all the time with 170 km/h per hour over the highway then this statement can also not be applyed anymore. As i said, i switch on wifi only when i need it and thats the same with data. I had a battery life for nearly 72 hours. Ok i made also less calls in that time. But it is all about your usage. I for my opinion can not find any problem as i said already. Motorola advertised nowhere that you can use your phone under "full load" for a whole day. This is called marketing in todays world. If you be believe everything what advertisement says then you seem for me very naive....... you should think about that
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Atleast the reviews said it last more than a day and I didn't used the phone under full load, just the Wifi was on all the time which uses lesser battery than 3G and I did 0 calls.
It might be true that 3G uses lesser than WI-FI, but what is that for a comparison? You can not compare WIFI and 3G because it is a completly different technology for different purposes. 3G Data uses a lot of Battery that's true. But WIFI also but less than 3G. But this statement doesn't mean that WiFi uses nearly no Battery. It uses only less. If 3G uses 100 parts energy and WiFi uses 85 parts energy out of 100 then it is less. But 85 is still a lot out of hundred. I quoted full load, just as a general statement. I know you had not switched on Bluetooth and so on. But anyway, Dataconnections are a expensive feature in relation to battery life.
Did your review tell you the exact conditions they tested it under? Or did they just say that without any proove? Also Tests and reviews are often copy and paste bull****. If i see an Antivirus test and the Userinterface is tested bad but the userinterface has a 45% weight in the all over test then i would say this is a crap test.
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It might be true that 3G uses lesser than WI-FI, but what is that for a comparison? You can not compare WIFI and 3G because it is a completly different technology for differnet purposes. 3G Data uses a lot of Battery that's true. But WIFI also but less than 3G. But this statement doesn't mean that WiFi uses nearly no Battery. It uses unly less. If 3G uses 100 parts energy and WiFi uses 85 Parts energy out of 100 then it is less. But 85 is still a lot out of hundred. I quoted full load, just as a general statement. I know you had not switched on Bluetooth and so on. But anyway, Dataconnections are a expensive feature in relation Battery life.
Did your review tell you the exact conditions they tested it under? Or did they just say that without any proove? Also Tests and reviews are often copy and paste bull****. If i see an Antivirus test and the Userinterface is tested bad but the userinterface has a 45% weight in the all over test then i would say this is a crap test.
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Yes see the gsmarena battery test I've attached, my phone doesn't even come near to its battery life
Unfortunately I can't take a screenshot but I have a stock (not rooted) Moto G that loses excessive amounts of battery with Aeroplane mode on!
What can possibly be causing such excessive battery drain - 50% -> 7% in 6 hours with no screen on or data or wifi.
Thanks
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Unfortunately I can't take a screenshot but I have a stock (not rooted) Moto G that loses excessive amounts of battery with Aeroplane mode on!
What can possibly be causing such excessive battery drain - 50% -> 7% in 6 hours with no screen on or data or wifi.
Thanks
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Hi that's a lot of drain i'd say theres some rogue process that runs even in airplane mode with no internet killing the battery i'll attach a screenshot of mine from last night this is with network on but WiFi and data off.

Question Phone idle battery drain

Anyone else experiencing huge Phone Idle battery drain? Prior to the March update it was around 2ish%, now it's averaging 12-15%
Idle drain and battery is crap,also has Nexus 5X and battery was also bad.
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In last few days I noticed battery drain. And as well I think it started same time I noticed screen flickering when in battery settings. Video explaining attached. As you can see its fine until I get deeper into settings then "system operacyjny...
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K1nsey6 said:
Anyone else experiencing huge Phone Idle battery drain? Prior to the March update it was around 2ish%, now it's averaging 12-15%
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Yes. mine was 4% over night with Bluetooth off. During the day it was very bad, with BT on. Tonight I'll go to bed @100% with BT on and see how it is. In the past, Blutooth was a major wakelock on this phone
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Idle drain and battery is crap,also has Nexus 5X and battery was also bad.
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Prior to the March update my battery was pretty good
For me it's still super good, using it often enough, start with 90, go to bed with 50-70% depending how much I used it (where with 50% it was a lot!)
I do have all the wiz disabled plus a load of google stuff.
I stumbled onto AccuBattery Pro and am glad it spells out discharge rate in percentages. Yaa... Camera is the most at 17%/H. Next is the Phone at 5.6%/H. Sitting near wi-fi most of the time, I suppose I cheat the phone's ugliness. And I just turn mobile data off with Better Internet Tiles. Now days I sit at home a lot and the cell towers are far away and crap. Damn. At work at the credit union, the cell tower was actually on the roof !
blackspp said:
For me it's still super good, using it often enough, start with 90, go to bed with 50-70% depending how much I used it (where with 50% it was a lot!)
I do have all the wiz disabled plus a load of google stuff.
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What? Did u voice type that? That makes no sense. What r u doing to get good battery life?
Idle drain here is about 0.6 %/h, satisfying enough for me. Nothing tinkered everything on stock. I just don't use AoD. WiFi and two SIM cards always active, no flight mode. Don't need Bluetooth hence off as well.
And of course no snake oil like Naptime.
Cheers
Toscha
Schroeder09 said:
What? Did u voice type that? That makes no sense. What r u doing to get good battery life?
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Disabled everything I don't need. Use as little apps as needed. No gaming except Wordfeud ;}
Lots of Chrome use though, covers most of my needs.
blackspp said:
For me it's still super good, using it often enough, start with 90, go to bed with 50-70% depending how much I used it (where with 50% it was a lot!)
I do have all the wiz disabled plus a load of google stuff.
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Wiz?
The AI stuff that Google added. Switching most of that off saves quite a bit of juice.
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The AI stuff that Google added. Switching most of that off saves quite a bit of juice.
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Like what specifically?
Adaptive battery off
Smooth display off
Live translate off
Digital assistant off
Covid notifications off
Disable all unneeded apps (ymmv)
Etc
Or leave all that stuff turned on and use Naptime... It's quite useful unlike most battery apps.
Naptime - the real battery sav - Apps on Google Play
Makes your device sleep faster to save precious battery life when you need it
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kodabmx said:
Or leave all that stuff turned on and use Naptime... It's quite useful unlike most battery apps.
Naptime - the real battery sav - Apps on Google Play
Makes your device sleep faster to save precious battery life when you need it
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I always worry about Apps where the latest reviews are 3 years old
Agreed, but it works - even though the last release was 2 years ago...
blackspp said:
Adaptive battery off
Smooth display off
Live translate off
Digital assistant off
Covid notifications off
Disable all unneeded apps (ymmv)
Etc
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May as well get a iPhone turning all the Google off lol
I just did a short test result of my P7P (running AncientOS) using Naptime+
Without it, i would have lost ~2% in the same time.
kodabmx said:
Or leave all that stuff turned on and use Naptime... It's quite useful unlike most battery apps.
Naptime - the real battery sav - Apps on Google Play
Makes your device sleep faster to save precious battery life when you need it
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Isn't this like greenify?

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