Hi Guys,
I'm a casual user and usually get 2 days out of my battery with roughly 1-2 hours of screen time. I manage my wifi/data and have, "battery saver," mode set in my location settings.
A few days ago, my battery was on 70% when I went to bed. I awoke in the middle of the day and realised that my alarm had not gone off. The phone had turned off and when I turned it on, the battery was down at 3% and Google Search had consumed the battery.
Having a look around to find any possible reason, I stubbled on the, "Location Reporting," settings which were both on. I've now turned these both off and my battery life seems to loose 25% per day rather than the usual 50% per day.
What are your experiences with Location Reporting Settings and Battery Life?
Thanks.
Edit: just done another cycle and I am certainly 10 to 20 better battery wise than with location reporting on.
I'd say no, as it doesn't affect me and I have mine on high accuracy. I am 100% stock (not even unlocked bootloader) and haven't changed any settings away from default in any app I have installed (which isn't many)
Mine has always been on high accuracy. I've used 18% of my battery in the last 10 hours. I would check your navigation isn't running.
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I don't think OP is referring to the high accuracy setting, but the google location reporting menu below.
I have them both off from the beginning, frankly I don't know if it makes any impact to the batttery life.
I think it does make somewhat of a difference. If I turn it off I can squeeze out maybe 20-30mins of extra screen on time. Mind you, I am a heavy user and sometimes I run into deadspots so take that for what its worth.
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xdviper said:
I think it does make somewhat of a difference. If I turn it off I can squeeze out maybe 20-30mins of extra screen on time. Mind you, I am a heavy user, and charge my phone sometimes twice a day. sometimes I will run into deadspots, and that will also cause the battery to die quicker, so take that for what its worth.
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bloot said:
I don't think OP is referring to the high accuracy setting, but the google location reporting menu below.
I have them both off from the beginning, frankly I don't know if it makes any impact to the batttery life.
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That's correct :good:, I'm referring to the reporting menu below.
Ever since I updated to the latest google play services (4.5.1 I think) battery drain issued have been solved.
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YES. I turned off both Location History and Location Reporting and my phone has way less wakelocks and battery usage. But just leave the regular location setting on High Accuracy...
Your phone will last forever!
I've run my phone with Location History and Reporting and Google Now on. What I noticed was many more wakelocks at the end of the day but with surprisingly little difference in actual battery usage. It has gotten much much better IME as far as actual battery toll.
Tw1tchy said:
Ever since I updated to the latest google play services (4.5.1 I think) battery drain issued have been solved.
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I'm on 4.2.39. The play store is not asking me to update the services app so I presume I'm on the latest version?
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I'm on 4.2.39. The play store is not asking me to update the services app so I presume I'm on the latest version?
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That's weird I'm on 4.1.32 (just checked). Maybe try installing latest gapps package? I had problems with cataclysm ROM in December. Then a new play services update came out and no more wake locks.
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Tw1tchy said:
That's weird I'm on 4.1.32 (just checked). Maybe try installing latest gapps package? I had problems with cataclysm ROM in December. Then a new play services update came out and no more wake locks.
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Thanks for looking, I'm on stock 4.4.2. What prompted me to look at my settings was just the random chronic battery drain. Google keep saying they have fixed things and they appear to be right. Then out of nowhere, I get a random drain. It's happened 3 times now meaning I get to work hours late....
Google collects anonymous location data from your phone even when location reporting and history are turned off (also did it when on device only mode).
It caused a lot of wake locks for me. I've found a way to still be able to use the GPS without all the wake locks. Simply switch off location totally, then reenable but disagree to the Google terms. Phone sleeps all the time now.
However I'm not quite sure how much battery these wake locks consume and if it's worth losing the instant location access and Google Now features. That's why I'm running my phone this way for a couple of days to test the battery life both with ART and Dalvik to see, if it makes a difference and how big that difference is.
Btw, I also only have Play Services 4.1.32. Does that depend on which region we live in? I would also like to see, if 4.5 would make the battery life better...
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Google collects anonymous location data from your phone even when location reporting and history are turned off (also did it when on device only mode).
It caused a lot of wake locks for me. I've found a way to still be able to use the GPS without all the wake locks. Simply switch off location totally, then reenable but disagree to the Google terms. Phone sleeps all the time now.
However I'm not quite sure how much battery these wake locks consume and if it's worth losing the instant location access and Google Now features. That's why I'm running my phone this way for a couple of days to test the battery life both with ART and Dalvik to see, if it makes a difference and how big that difference is.
Btw, I also only have Play Services 4.1.32. Does that depend on which region we live in? I would also like to see, if 4.5 would make the battery life better...
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Services went to 4.2.40 last night. I'm still going to run without the location reporting on to see if I can get longer than my usual 2 days.
Would be nice to get hear from another nexus 4/5 user who in the past has had location reporting on and has now turned it off.
Masteryates said:
Services went to 4.2.40 last night. I'm still going to run without the location reporting on to see if I can get longer than my usual 2 days.
Would be nice to get hear from another nexus 4/5 user who in the past has had location reporting on and has now turned it off.
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Hm, I still have the same old version. Would it be dangerous to sideload an updated version of Play Services? Is that even possible?
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Hm, I still have the same old version. Would it be dangerous to sideload an updated version of Play Services? Is that even possible?
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My updated version came via an update of the search or maps app. I don't know about side loading or how you would get hold of the apk.
So does the update improve the battery life or not? It's really a placebo at best during the big update.
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So does the update improve the battery life or not? It's really a placebo at best during the big update.
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I'd say I've seen no difference. However, consistent battery life is important to me even if not that good. The real killer is when something like Google search decides to eat my battery in the course of a night.
I've read in other threads that if you don't have quality LTE in your area, the phone uses up mucho battery, trying to maintain/improve the LTE connection (searching for better LTE service). But those with quality LTE service don't have such issues.
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I've read in other threads that if you don't have quality LTE in your area, the phone uses up mucho battery, trying to maintain/improve the LTE connection (searching for better LTE service). But those with quality LTE service don't have such issues.
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Doesn't seem to matter what network you are on, 3g/4g, if your phone is searching for the signal all of the time, your battery will take a real hammering.
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Hey,
3 days ago my mobile Internet flatrate ran out, I don't really think that this has anything to do with this but I try to provide as much information as I can.
My Nexus S was bought December last year and never really had any problems.
But now for 3 Days I have to charge that thing every damn day and the battery only lasts 18-19 hours instead of 2+ days. I haven't really used the phone in the last 3 days except from recieving calls and using whatsapp.
I have also not installed any apps in this time.
Here a screenshot from my current battery live. (Seems to be always awake)
(ICS 4.0.4 Rooted, Stock Kernel, Stock Launcher.)
Thank you guys in advance!
What does it say is the top consumer of power on the battery usage percent chart. We can't help you very much without that. Also, grab BetterBatteryStats. That will help tremendously as it can damn near narrow it down to a single culprit.
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chronophase1 said:
What does it say is the top consumer of power on the battery usage percent chart. We can't help you very much without that. Also, grab BetterBatteryStats. That will help tremendously as it can damn near narrow it down to a single culprit.
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Oh damn haven't even looked at it.
Says 45% Whattsapp
32% Google Services
will download better Batterystats now. But first I will just reinstall whatsapp.
EDIT: I just reinstalled Whatsapp and will now wait what the battery says in a few hours before I buy betterbatterystats.
Thank you so far, will report back.
Yeah. Those two are probably trying to "phone home" constantly, thus causing a drain. That may be what the issue is. From the looks of it, it looks like your signal isn't stellar either. How good is Whatsapp over EDGE speeds? The 3g connection just might not be strong enough, trying to search for a signal and also draining the battery.
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Yeah. Those two are probably trying to "phone home" constantly, thus causing a drain. That may be what the issue is. From the looks of it, it looks like your signal isn't stellar either. How good is Whatsapp over EDGE speeds? The 3g connection just might not be strong enough, trying to search for a signal and also draining the battery.
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Your guess is quite good, because in my room and ONLY in my room there are some severe problems with network connectivity for almost everyone.
(But battery life was good just a few days ago?)
I currently have no mobile Internet and only use WLAN. Just disconnected phone from charger and will now see how it runs.
bobdowl said:
Your guess is quite good, because in my room and ONLY in my room there are some severe problems with network connectivity for almost everyone.
(But battery life was good just a few days ago?)
I currently have no mobile Internet and only use WLAN. Just disconnected phone from charger and will now see how it runs.
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If you have "no mobile Internet" and WiFi is off (as in screenshot), this is your issue. The android processes are trying to re-connect keeping your phone from deep sleep. In Mobile Network Settings, disable Data. Turn on WiFi, and set Keep WiFi on during sleep to Always. When you are out of WiFi range, disable background sync.
I've noticed something on 4.0, at least in my case. Huge wake locks for no reason in airplane mode. The phone home thing is most likely the cause. Google must have changed something in the way their apps operate because this never happened in gingerbread for me.
Well, so I have observed it a little more and battery usage by google services is now up to 70%.
Thank you for the suggestions I'll try now.
But why the hell does this issue come just now? I have 4.0.4 since it came out and the issue just appeared about 5 days ago.
I wish I knew. I've got mine in airplane mode now, but no SIM in it. I've got a G2 as my daily driver now. The Nexus hasn't had any more of the airplane mode wakeups strangely enough though. Wish I knew what was actually causing mine.
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I wish I knew. I've got mine in airplane mode now, but no SIM in it. I've got a G2 as my daily driver now. The Nexus hasn't had any more of the airplane mode wakeups strangely enough though. Wish I knew what was actually causing mine.
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So to report back again, I tried SpookyTunes suggestion for one cycle of battery life.
Then after recharging I went into the app management and force-stopped the google services framework and deleted the cached files afterwards.
So now I'm back to 3% battery usage (from Google Services Framework) for the last hour.
I would give it more time to see what it uses over the course of the day.
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Okay just to deliver on my part and report back.
Here's a screenshot of my battery life now.
Google Service isn't even shown in the battery list anymore!
any news????
Flashed CleanROM V and did a battery calibration running it down to 0% a couple times but getting terrible battery life still. I work in a concrete warehouse all day so the signal is pretty weak. Any suggestions and maximizing my battery?
Perhaps try turning off wifi if you've not got a signal & try kicking the phone back to 3g.
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nitens said:
Perhaps try turning off wifi if you've not got a signal & try kicking the phone back to 3g.
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I'll give that a shot. I don't get back to work until monday so I'll see if the battery is better when I'm not all blocked off with concrete walls.
notice maps is running a lot u running google now ?
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notice maps is running a lot u running google now ?
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The screen on to awake ratios should roughly be similar but it looks different in this case, install BetterBatteryStats to check out wakelocks.
Also, your mobile signal appears to be very weak and dropping out.
PS. Wiping battery stats does nothing
Wow, you should be getting easily double that if not triple the usage.
First thing, if you are in a area where wifi is available, you can disable mobile data(3g/4g) completely. if not, then leave wifi turned off and use 3g, i dont use 4g lte unless im downloading something BIG.
Secondly, if you want to, you can close the apps via task switcher every few hrs, but not mandoatory.
Lastly, update your device to the latest version 2.20 or 2.40. I got easily 15-20% increase when i updated from 1.85 to 2.20.
Also you can leave your screen to auto brightness, which helps by itself, i used to change it myself but i realized auto is better since it changes it instantly depending on the situation.
Doing this gets my phone to average 30hrs standby with about 3hrs screen on time. Heck, few times when i used wifi mostly and data turned off majority of the time, i got 5+ hrs screen on time within about 24hrs usage.
insomniakAD said:
Flashed CleanROM V and did a battery calibration running it down to 0% a couple times but getting terrible battery life still. I work in a concrete warehouse all day so the signal is pretty weak. Any suggestions and maximizing my battery?
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Turn off facebook notifications - main culprit and google maps
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tomascus said:
The screen on to awake ratios should roughly be similar but it looks different in this case, install BetterBatteryStats to check out wakelocks.
Also, your mobile signal appears to be very weak and dropping out.
PS. Wiping battery stats does nothing
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I installed BBS and i'll run that today since it's my first day back at the environment.
sharkonland said:
Wow, you should be getting easily double that if not triple the usage.
First thing, if you are in a area where wifi is available, you can disable mobile data(3g/4g) completely. if not, then leave wifi turned off and use 3g, i dont use 4g lte unless im downloading something BIG.
Secondly, if you want to, you can close the apps via task switcher every few hrs, but not mandoatory.
Lastly, update your device to the latest version 2.20 or 2.40. I got easily 15-20% increase when i updated from 1.85 to 2.20.
Also you can leave your screen to auto brightness, which helps by itself, i used to change it myself but i realized auto is better since it changes it instantly depending on the situation.
Doing this gets my phone to average 30hrs standby with about 3hrs screen on time. Heck, few times when i used wifi mostly and data turned off majority of the time, i got 5+ hrs screen on time within about 24hrs usage.
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That's what I'm saying! For such a great phone I should be able to use it more at least I'll look into disabling 4g. LTE just got turned on in my area and i'm soaking in the super fast speeds Probably not worth the sacrifice in battery if that's the case though.
abhipati said:
Turn off facebook notifications - main culprit and google maps
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I don't have facebook installed but Google Maps could be sucking a lot of battery life since I keep GPS on.
Hello all.
I'm getting the feeling I'm not exactly getting the battery life I should be getting with this phone.
I had another LG G2 before the one I currently have now. I swapped it out during the 14-day return period. That one had screen flickering (which I now know that is due to content adaptive contrast etc.) and [aesthetic] the day after actually getting the phone, getting a scratch on it. However, with that day of having the phone, I felt as if I got better battery life compared to this one. That phone had Carrier IQ running on it when I didn't know anything about it. I only knew about Carrier IQ's problems once I had the current G2.
I'll post my battery results at the end of the current day from GSam, but attached are my current battery results at the given moment.
I have been using it actively since 6AM or so.
Screen at 30% brightness, WiFi on all the time. I have made the effort to disable all AT&T bloat and I have stopped Carrier IQ, LG Intelligent Agent or whatever its called and SmartCard.
I'm unrooted, totally stock (what comes out of the box). I have KNOCK ON disabled along with SlideAway if that helps.
No gaming has ever been had on this phone. Just Facebook, Messenger, and Chrome for browsing the web. I also listen to Google Play Music.
I talked on the phone with AT&T on Wednesday and they suggested a factory reset, and if it didn't fix it, to warranty the phone out...which would result in a refurbished phone and I'm kinda not okay with that because I paid for a new phone and I don't like having to get a refurbished one that is supposed to resolve my issue somehow. That's just me though.
Last night, I charged up to full while the phone was shut off. Factory reset my G2 and I still get this feeling I'm not really getting proper battery life.
Are these the type of results of what I should be getting? Not representative of a day actually out and about (which will be Monday as I have school then), rather at home. I will give stats of the end of the day use of Monday...at the end of Monday. Thanks in advance, and hopefully I have given enough info AND stats. I'm still sorta new to XDA.
I'm sorry, but you have 3 hours of screen on time and only used 40% of your battery. I think that is pretty darn good. I wouldn't be concerned with this. You are making me wonder about my device.. I have 62% left and only 1.5 hours screen time
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born_fisherman said:
I'm sorry, but you have 3 hours of screen on time and only used 40% of your battery. I think that is pretty darn good. I wouldn't be concerned with this. You are making me wonder about my device.. I have 62% left and only 1.5 hours screen time
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Really? Huh. I just ..all the reviews claim high numbers...and with heavy usage of close to a day. People mention such screen time and more (4+), with getting upwards of 30 total hours of usage etc.
Have you disabled Carrier IQ?
LucariX said:
Really? Huh. I just ..all the reviews claim high numbers...and with heavy usage of close to a day.
Have you disabled Carrier IQ?
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No I haven't. I've only had the G2 for a couple days, coming from HTC One. Att is letting me try this phone out to see if I want to swap it after all the warranty exchanges I've had due to purple camera issues. I didn't know carrier iq was an issue, but I will look into it
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No I haven't. I've only had the G2 for a couple days, coming from HTC One. Att is letting me try this phone out to see if I want to swap it after all the warranty exchanges I've had due to purple camera issues. I didn't know carrier iq was an issue, but I will look into it
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Ahh okay. The G2 is a nice phone in terms of performance, functionality etc. Battery life was supposed to be a major feature of this phone because of the optimization and battery size...so that's why I'm concerned when others are seeming to get much better results.
If you don't mind me asking, why are they giving you a One for warranty exchange? I personally wanted a One before this phone, but it was cheaper, had better features, specs and battery life etc.
EDIT: just noticed you stated the purple camera issue. Sorry..I didn't know that was a problem with it though. Last I heard of such was with the iPhone 5's new sapphire lens...but that was fixed through a software update (somehow).
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Ahh okay. The G2 is a nice phone in terms of performance, functionality etc. Battery life was supposed to be a major feature of this phone because of the optimization and battery size...so that's why I'm concerned when others are seeming to get much better results.
If you don't mind me asking, why are they giving you a One for warranty exchange? I personally wanted a One before this phone, but it was cheaper, had better features, specs and battery life etc.
EDIT: just noticed you stated the purple camera issue. Sorry..I didn't know that was a problem with it though. Last I heard of such was with the iPhone 5's new sapphire lens...but that was fixed through a software update (somehow).
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Yea the One is a great phone - I'm still not sure what I want to do yet! The problem is with most of the first months the phone was built. My wife has the mini and it was built in September- she doesn't have the purple issue. I could just send the One into HTC and have them fix the camera.. I am a little disappointed with the G2 shutter speed with flash on tho; but I am pretty sure this is fixable with a software update.
Is Carrier IQ really draining the battery? Is that why my idle battery life is terrible?
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Yea the One is a great phone - I'm still not sure what I want to do yet! The problem is with most of the first months the phone was built. My wife has the mini and it was built in September- she doesn't have the purple issue. I could just send the One into HTC and have them fix the camera.. I am a little disappointed with the G2 shutter speed with flash on tho; but I am pretty sure this is fixable with a software update.
Is Carrier IQ really draining the battery? Is that why my idle battery life is terrible?
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The G2 takes a bit of time in low light (if thats what you're getting at) etc. because its trying to suck as much light as it can. It does a great job because it takes its time...its just understandable why its doing that. That's why its quick and speedy in proper light (which isn't too demanding). I'd rather have proper exposure at the expense of time.
Yes, carrier IQ is exactly why. Do a bit of searching around on Carrier IQ on the AT&T G2...its the only carrier variant of the phone affected by it. It causes major wakelock and demands GPS even when you have done everything to disable location services. I also recommend, while you're at it if you haven't, to disable WiFi and mobile network connection under location access in settings.
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The G2 takes a bit of time in low light (if thats what you're getting at) etc. because its trying to suck as much light as it can. It does a great job because it takes its time...its just understandable why its doing that. That's why its quick and speedy in proper light (which isn't too demanding). I'd rather have proper exposure at the expense of time.
Yes, carrier IQ is exactly why. Do a bit of searching around on Carrier IQ on the AT&T G2...its the only carrier variant of the phone affected by it. It causes major wakelock and demands GPS even when you have done everything to disable location services. I also recommend, while you're at it if you haven't, to disable WiFi and mobile network connection under location access in settings.
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I agree that I'd rather have a better picture than a faster snap When the lighting is good, the shutter speed is great - I posted a couple comparison shots on another thread about the One vs the G2.
As far as the CIQ - I disable IQ in Android system settings - as well as the wifi and mobile network location settings. Will see how this affects battery life.
I still think you are getting great battery life compared to mine - I'm down to 42% battery with 2hrs screen time.. I'm using Lux for brightness and it keeps the screen pretty dim compared to the built in auto brightness logic LG uses.
uninstall the maps update and disable the auto update for itband ur batteryvwill be good i just didbthat last night and my phone has been on forv24 hrs and im still at 69% with 4 hrs screen tine
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I agree that I'd rather have a better picture than a faster snap When the lighting is good, the shutter speed is great - I posted a couple comparison shots on another thread about the One vs the G2.
As far as the CIQ - I disable IQ in Android system settings - as well as the wifi and mobile network location settings. Will see how this affects battery life.
I still think you are getting great battery life compared to mine - I'm down to 42% battery with 2hrs screen time.. I'm using Lux for brightness and it keeps the screen pretty dim compared to the built in auto brightness logic LG uses.
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I'll check out Lux.
Also, see how your battery improves after disabling Carrier IQ etc. then we will compare and see who has better battery life. You should definitely notice a personal difference. You may not think there is something wrong with your phone anymore.
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uninstall the maps update and disable the auto update for itband ur batteryvwill be good i just didbthat last night and my phone has been on forv24 hrs and im still at 69% with 4 hrs screen tine
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Ahh okay. I tried a similar thing where I uninstalled updates and reinstalled... Cuz I read that somewhere. But now I'm doing this. Will report back if I see any difference.
LucariX said:
I'll check out Lux.
Also, see how your battery improves after disabling Carrier IQ etc. then we will compare and see who has better battery life. You should definitely notice a personal difference. You may not think there is something wrong with your phone anymore.
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I can't seem to disable ciq using system tuner - the check boxes are all grayed out-- any tips? do I need the pro version?
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I can't seem to disable ciq using system tuner - the check boxes are all grayed out-- any tips? do I need the pro version?
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I just do what you did earlier - go into Apps > disable IQ Agent running under Android system, go back, click Android system again and stop the actual service...and do that every time I reboot the device.
You can totally remove it I believe with root, but I have been aiming to refrain from rooting until my 1 year warranty with this phone is up
I average %5 per hour.
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I average %5 per hour.
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What type of usage? With WiFi, over data, brightness setting..etc?
LucariX said:
I just do what you did earlier - go into Apps > disable IQ Agent running under Android system, go back, click Android system again and stop the actual service...and do that every time I reboot the device.
You can totally remove it I believe with root, but I have been aiming to refrain from rooting until my 1 year warranty with this phone is up
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oh okay. I read people use system tuner app, but I'm not sure how as the check boxes for the running services are all grayed out so it isn't possible to uncheck them. unless a rooted phone is needed, I don't know, I can't find specific information on it.
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What type of usage? With WiFi, over data, brightness setting..etc?
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D800, stock, full brightness (not auto), Wifi when indoors, 4G LTE when outdoors with wifi on, blutooth on all the time, mix usage.
These were taken on different days. I always have wifi, 4G LTE and blutooth on.
I notice a drop when I have a lot of data transfer or a lot of screen time, but overall it never made me complain, I only complained to myself when I pushed it to limit because I got spoiled by good battery life and I stopped the habit of plugging it all the time. Now when I pick up, it has 30% and it can still last few hours easily, whereas before %30 meant "oh ohhhhh"..
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D800, stock, full brightness (not auto), Wifi when indoors, 4G LTE when outdoors with wifi on, blutooth on all the time, mix usage.
These were taken on different days. I always have wifi, 4G LTE and blutooth on.
I notice a drop when I have a lot of data transfer or a lot of screen time, but overall it never made me complain, I only complained to myself when I pushed it to limit because I got spoiled by good battery life and I stopped the habit of plugging it all the time. Now when I pick up, it has 30% and it can still last few hours easily, whereas before %30 meant "oh ohhhhh"..
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Okay, yeah. Nice stats. I'll see how things go so far with the past suggestion of Maps etc. but yeah I totally agree with 30% thing...its weird thinking that too. But I have adjusted...kinda.
Just a quick note on standby battery life - I used the phone until it completely shut off last night around 7pm or so.. at 10pm it was fully charged, so I pulled it off the charger. It is now 8AM, and the phone is still at 100%!! I did not get any texts/emails overnight, I left WiFi/4G on.. GPS stayed on along with Wifi/mobile network locations on.
When the phone shut off and I charged it, upon reboot, I did go into location settings and disable IQAgent.
I also removed some apps (Lux/GSAM), and reverted Maps to previous version. Not really sure if Lux or GSAM are a culprit or not.. I used GSAM on my One only because HTC removed the battery stats - LG has this in the battery info. Although GSAM is nice, it isn't really necessary unless drain is outrageous.
Let's see what today brings for battery life!
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Just a quick note on standby battery life - I used the phone until it completely shut off last night around 7pm or so.. at 10pm it was fully charged, so I pulled it off the charger. It is now 8AM, and the phone is still at 100%!! I did not get any texts/emails overnight, I left WiFi/4G on.. GPS stayed on along with Wifi/mobile network locations on.
When the phone shut off and I charged it, upon reboot, I did go into location settings and disable IQAgent.
I also removed some apps (Lux/GSAM), and reverted Maps to previous version. Not really sure if Lux or GSAM are a culprit or not.. I used GSAM on my One only because HTC removed the battery stats - LG has this in the battery info. Although GSAM is nice, it isn't really necessary unless drain is outrageous.
Let's see what today brings for battery life!
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I know for many, the standby of the phone is said to be a killer. I might just remove GSam too. I tried out Lux BTW and I was really shocked just how dim the display got where it was even hard to see in a dark room
So far I haven't noticed any change in battery life while consistently using the phone. However I will say when I rebooted real quick last night, I forgot to take care of Carrier IQ and noticed that the battery was dropping incredibly fast. I then remembered I forgot to disable it, and then all was well. Just shows how much of a difference it makes!
Hi guys! I've created this as a thread to discuss the so far mysterious and specific to 5.0 battery issues many seem to have.
Here you can discuss it, test theories and try to track down causes.
I made this to keep the clutter out of the Battery Life Help Thread sticky. As this is muddying the waters there.
Same things apply... Screen shots are helpful, specifically app wakelock screens. (need root for that though)
Also, Chances are there will eventually be an update to fix this from Google. So when that happens, or the issues are solved by members, then this thread will be closed and info added to the Battery Life Help Thread.
Thanks!
I won't be active very much in this thread BTW. I'm very busy here on XDA. I've created it for community discussion. ?
By all means... If you are rooted, and have Gsam and Gsam root companion installed.... You can post your app wakelock screen shots here......
[Battery Life Help] Troubleshoot battery issues here!
Here we go. There's some proof about Wifi issue for ones who don't or want to believe and became angry to talking about this issue. As you can see No deep sleep wakelocks without Wifi. As clear as it should be.
And yes, everything is off. GNow, location, G+; any google services disabled. Also all notification or syncing options of 3rd party apps are closed. And it's a smartphone by the way.
kamajikaciya said:
Here we go. There's some proof about Wifi issue for ones who don't or want to believe and became angry to talking about this issue. As you can see No deep sleep wakelocks without Wifi. As clear as it should be.
And yes, everything is off. GNow, location, G+; any google services disabled. Also all notification or syncing options of 3rd party apps are closed. And it's a smartphone by the way.
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It would be a good idea to change your language to english before you take a screen shot. Many people that have no idea what the text in your screen shot means. Just an idea
SYRE123 said:
It would be a good idea to change your language to english before you take a screen shot. Many people that have no idea what the text in your screen shot means. Just an idea
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I don't think so. I saw too many french, spanish, german, portuegese screenshots and if you know the ordering you may tell which is which.
kamajikaciya said:
I don't think so. I saw too many french, spanish, german, portuegese screenshots and if you know the ordering you may tell which is which.
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It's up to you ofc. I'm still on KitKat and don't know by default which is which, therefor my question. Just think you'll be able to get more help when Everyone can understand your screenshots, but that's me
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It's up to you ofc. I'm still on KitKat and don't know by default which is which, therefor my question. Just think you'll be able to get more help when Everyone can understand your screenshots, but that's me
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Thanks but I'm not sure that I'll get some help though. Turkish or english, this issue will take much battery in these days.
For what it's worth, people who need to theorise / suggest / confirm 'issues' must do so LOGICALLY, and preferably with numbers and specific setup.
- The laws of physics apply in all cases, regardless of ROM / kernel. Work out WHAT is using your battery instead of just complaining of drain. This helps no one....similarly only quoting SOT is USELESS. It is how you use your device.....
- Any initial 'testing' needs to be done first on full stock factory images, with no additional apps installed. If there really is a WiFi bug....test standby drain with WiFi on / off over a long period of time. Only then can you actually compare logically. Any difference in your actual day-to-day setup can then be narrowed down to an app issue, with in 99% of cases is the real cause.
Well i narrowed it down tot google now. I did a clean install. I did my setup as i usually do. But first without google now. Because i don't use it. My SOT was then about 4 hrs. Then i was thinking. Hmmz lollipop is beter then KitKat. And maybe its fun tot use google now. So i setup google now. My SOT drops instantly to 2 hrs SOT. So i disabled google now. But my SOT stays at 2 hrs. I did again a clean install. Without touching google now and my SOT is beter then ever. 5 hrs. And i came tot understand that if you don't setup google now. The SOT became normal but if you setup google now SOT drops. And i think there a program from google now that keeps beeing active. Even with shutting google now off. Or google now keeps active even while you shut if off
Anyone know of an app that can control individual apps permissions, similar to the xposed module app settings? Fighting privacy/battery issues.
App ops? Can be found in the store
I have no 3rd party apps installed and also tested in safe mode. If wifi is on the battery drains with wakelocks. If wifi is off the battery drain goes away and wakelocks stop. That's not a theory or something. I'm testing this issue till I bought my Nexus 5. I'm lucky because I bought my Nexus 5 1 week ago and I flashed Lollipop images clearly. Also I relfashed 2 times more . There's a wifi issue in this version in Nexus 5 and it must be fixed immediately. That's the result. No need physics laws or something. There's to many person lives it and cannot use their smartphone properly. If I must close the wifi manually to save battery life and block wakelocks why I'm calling that thing a "smartphone"? By the way it's not the phone's fault. The OS is faulty for Nexus 5. The worst part is the fact that Google said this issue has been fixed. But it's not true. At least for most users. We saw some users doesn't have this issue but more of them has been rooted their phone or flashed custom ROMs and kernels etc... Personally I don't want to root my phone or use a custom ROM and kernel. I think it's my right as a Google Nexus 5 and Android final consumer. And also it's my right to sound off this issue. I cannot understand why some people are huffing to users like me?
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I have no 3rd party apps installed and also tested in safe mode. If wifi is on the battery drains with wakelocks. If wifi is off the battery drain goes away and wakelocks stop. That's not a theory or something. I'm testing this issue till I bought my Nexus 5. I'm lucky because I bought my Nexus 5 1 week ago and I flashed Lollipop images clearly. Also I relfashed 2 times more . There's a wifi issue in this version in Nexus 5 and it must be fixed immediately. That's the result. No need physics laws or something. There's to many person lives it and cannot use their smartphone properly. If I must close the wifi manually to save battery life and block wakelocks why I'm calling that thing a "smartphone"? By the way it's not the phone's fault. The OS is faulty for Nexus 5. The worst part is the fact that Google said this issue has been fixed. But it's not true. At least for most users. We saw some users doesn't have this issue but more of them has been rooted their phone or flashed custom ROMs and kernels etc... Personally I don't want to root my phone or use a custom ROM and kernel. I think it's my right as a Google Nexus 5 and Android final consumer. And also it's my right to sound off this issue. I cannot understand why some people are huffing to users like me?
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Apologies my post wasn't actually directed at you, more at those who post without any detail and just conclude that it must be drain, I've seen many...
You have tested logically[emoji106], and you're absolutely right that full stock factory image should work without issue and without the need for root to fix anything.
Can you confirm also that the same drain happens on any Wi-Fi network? It shouldn't be a solution but with investigating. Can you determine which built in app is keeping your device awake?
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Apologies my post wasn't actually directed at you, more at those who post without any detail and just conclude that it must be drain, I've seen many...
You have tested logically[emoji106], and you're absolutely right that full stock factory image should work without issue and without the need for root to fix anything.
Can you confirm also that the same drain happens on any Wi-Fi network? It shouldn't be a solution but with investigating. Can you determine which built in app is keeping your device awake?
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No need for apologies or something. We're all here to solve some issues and make things better.
By the way my wifi issue happens if the wifi is on. There's no need to be connected to any network. If the wifi is on there's massive wakelocks in sleep mode and battery drains quickly. I tried anything but root or customizing ROM or kernel. Even I flashed 4.4.2 radio image with 5.0 stock ROM. I'M using it that way now. Same results.
And my tests are not only logical but I also have some quantitative clues. When I open the wifi I can see the wakelocks in stock battery graphic when the screen is off. If ı close the wifi wakelocks decrease and incomprehensible battery drains stops.
I agree. I'm getting an extra hour SOT without WiFi.
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SOT is not a main parameter. Especially in this issue.
For this wifi battery drain issue our main parameter is wakelock intensity when wifi is on and screen is off (standby) therefore battery drain in deep sleep mode. So you must check your off screen battery drain.
Any idea why Google play services is keeping my phone awake almost continuously? My location is set to battery saver. I've left it exactly the way it was on KK, Play services used to be around 2% on KK. Now on L, it's always in the top of the charts at ~20%. It says that mobile radio is continuously on. Does it have anything to do with the radio version?
Location History: On
Location Tracking: On
Gmail sync: on
Contact sync: On
Everything else is always off.
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SOT is not a main parameter. Especially in this issue.
For this wifi battery drain issue our main parameter is wakelock intensity when wifi is on and screen is off (standby) therefore battery drain in deep sleep mode. So you must check your off screen battery drain.
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Oh I see. Well I think Wi-Fi is just more of a drain overall. I got more SOT yesterday and idle time it seemed like.
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Any idea why Google play services is keeping my phone awake almost continuously? My location is set to battery saver. I've left it exactly the way it was on KK, Play services used to be around 2% on KK. Now on L, it's always in the top of the charts at ~20%. It says that mobile radio is continuously on. Does it have anything to do with the radio version?
Location History: On
Location Tracking: On
Gmail sync: on
Contact sync: On
Everything else is always off.
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Tracking and history have always been drains. Maybe not as bad as on 5.0...but still.
Try with those off to compare. ?
Darth said:
Tracking and history have always been drains. Maybe not as bad as on 5.0...but still.
Try with those off to compare. ?
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That is true, but KK never had that big of a drain solely based on location and tracking.
I reformatted to factory settings, and even reinstalled all factory images. I still get a lot of battery drain daily. the battery details screenshot indicates that Google is always on and Suspend Wakelock is always on. what can I do to fix this issue? I am unable to keep this phone otherwise. I always have battery drain issues on Android yet seems as though Google has not provided a stable fix...
I cant get even one hour of screentime on Android until it hits 80%.
I just need to know how to fix the Wakelock issue because I think that's what it is. I tried Wakelock apps but they don't do anything.
EDIT: resolved. just reflashed using Android Flash Tool and that corrected it.
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I reformatted to factory settings, and even reinstalled all factory images. I still get a lot of battery drain daily. the battery details screenshot indicates that Google is always on and Suspend Wakelock is always on. what can I do to fix this issue? I am unable to keep this phone otherwise. I always have battery drain issues on Android yet seems as though Google has not provided a stable fix...
I cant get even one hour of screentime on Android until it hits 80%.
I just need to know how to fix the Wakelock issue because I think that's what it is. I tried Wakelock apps but they don't do anything.
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use bbs to get more detail of usage. Otherwise nobody could help you.
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I reformatted to factory settings, and even reinstalled all factory images. I still get a lot of battery drain daily. the battery details screenshot indicates that Google is always on and Suspend Wakelock is always on. what can I do to fix this issue? I am unable to keep this phone otherwise. I always have battery drain issues on Android yet seems as though Google has not provided a stable fix...
I cant get even one hour of screentime on Android until it hits 80%.
I just need to know how to fix the Wakelock issue because I think that's what it is. I tried Wakelock apps but they don't do anything.
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Oy Vey. Battery life (power consumption) is outstanding on this device right out of the box. No rogue wakelocks here. Misbehaving apps and panel brightness are the two biggest drainers. Adjust your life and so called "SOT" will improve. Note the battery is 'only' ~3140 mAh. Don't expect all day longevity if gaming or in constant use. That's not what this phone is about.
I was able to resolve the issue by reflashing. I had used BBS hence why the suspendlockout at 100%.
Steps to resolve. (aware that this may not be the most ideal option for some)
- Reflash using the Android Flash Tool (don't manually update, just use the flash tool provided by Google)
- Start from scratch. Do not restore from backup. Install most needed apps.
- Observe battery drain over the course of the day
The issue was that Google app (not sure which app that is) did not run in background properly hence the high drain.
I was able to get 6 hours of SOT once I reflashed. Here is to hoping 7 hours of SOT with a modified kernel.
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I was able to resolve the issue by reflashing. I had used BBS hence why the suspendlockout at 100%.
Steps to resolve. (aware that this may not be the most ideal option for some)
- Reflash using the Android Flash Tool (don't manually update, just use the flash tool provided by Google)
- Start from scratch. Do not restore from backup. Install most needed apps.
- Observe battery drain over the course of the day
The issue was that Google app (not sure which app that is) did not run in background properly hence the high drain.
I was able to get 6 hours of SOT once I reflashed. Here is to hoping 7 hours of SOT with a modified kernel.
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Kernel appears well optimized on this device; doubt you will see significant power utilization improvements with custom varients. More likely to score headaches w/o a corresponding benefit.
I'm on my second cycle. Got close to 9 hrs sot on first. Here's my 2nd after useing it for an hour this morning. Even better than my OP5T! I use wifi almost all the time since I don't get any cell bars at home.
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I'm on my second cycle. Got close to 9 hrs sot on first. Here's my 2nd after useing it for an hour this morning. Even better than my OP5T! I use wifi almost all the time since I don't get any cell bars at home.
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I'm getting low numbers like op, 4-5 sot but I'm only on cell data (no wifi in this apartment for now). Could wifi vs cell account for such a big difference? Thanks!
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I'm getting low numbers like op, 4-5 sot but I'm only on cell data (no wifi in this apartment for now). Could wifi vs cell account for such a big difference? Thanks!
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Yep - especially if signal is weak/marginal forcing the mobile radio to maintain a higher power level. Same thing can happen on WiFi although have more options to cycle WiFi on/off during screen off operations. In contrast, mobile radio is on 7x24 unless you tell it otherwise.
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Yep - especially if signal is weak/marginal forcing the mobile radio to maintain a higher power level. Same thing can happen on WiFi although have more options to cycle WiFi on/off during screen off operations. In contrast, mobile radio is on 7x24 unless you tell it otherwise.
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Ok thanks. I’ll test it out soon on wifi and see what happens.
I saw that the Pixel 5 is about the same form size as the 4a but with the larger battery. Out of curiosity, anyone know if it’s possible to jam that 4,000mah battery inside the 4a? I haven’t seen the internals so don’t know if there’s enough room.
keaheng said:
use bbs to get more detail of usage. Otherwise nobody could help you.
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May I know what bbs is ?
[email protected] said:
May I know what bbs is ?
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It's the app "BetterBatteryStats"
[APP][2.2+][11 Dec. 2022 - V3.1] BetterBatteryStats
I started BetterBatteryStats because I was missing the great battery history that Spare Parts allowed to call on Froyo. It has been a long journey since the first version. BetterBatteryStats provides an insight in following categories: - General...
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BetterBatteryStats – Apps bei Google Play
Ein hoher Batterieverbrauch ist ein limitierender Faktor für eine positive Nutzererfahrung.
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Can be very helpful to find the app/service which effects the battery drain.