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So, I recently cancelled AT&T but I wanted to make a couple of last remarks on a battery issue, so as to (hopefully) better inform the devs. Up front, I will say that the reception at my house is terrible (hence my cancellation). As such, I expect somewhat poor battery performance. I have run nearly every version of Cognition, tried the AOSP project, and most recently run Perception. After using these, I was left with the impression that the battery performance in all of these has been disappointing.
Having received my new phone and with my old service not yet deactivated completely, I decided to try a more formal test. I used the following test protocols in order to ensure a fair and accurate comparison was conducted:
1) The phone was positioned for the worst possible reception in my house. It was only moved to change ROMs and was returned to the approximate location it was previously in.
2) Each ROM was flashed at 100% battery, with SIM and SD Cards removed.
3) A battery recalibration was performed after each flash, as detailed in the Cognition thread (Charge to full, turn off, charge to full, turn on, use for 2 minutes, charge to full, delete battery stats). Following this I did one more complete discharge and recharge to ensure the statistics would reconfigure with the calibrated battery.
4) GPS and Bluetooth were turned off; WiFi remained on and connected through all test runs.
I loaded Cognition version 2.3b6 and then Perception build 3, both of which performed approximately the same. Leaving my phone on standby and with only very light use (0 answered calls and no internet surfing or messaging), I could get no more than 15 hours of battery power before it died. Following this, I restored my phone to the stock JH7 update and, as of now, my phone is at 54% after 2d 19h 25m of use.
I know many people have been flamed for daring to suggest that the ROM has something to do with the battery draining abnormally, but I did this test as objectively as I could so that the community of developers can use the information to improve on this issue. In my opinion, this test suggests that something in the custom ROMs is causing an excessive battery drain. While this may not be happening on everyone's phones, it is most definitely happening on two of my Captivates. Hope this helps and good luck! I am off to Droid X Land! Suppose I'll use my working GPS to get there! (Sorry, couldn't resist... too soon?)
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Poor signal is the biggest battery drain. Especially in 3g areas. I have had phones on VZW and ATT (different times and locations) where my battery would not last 8 hours.
Another test to show it is not the ROM or OS is to put the phone in airplane mode and observe almost 0% battery drain overnight.
But since these custom ROMs are built off beta releases, I am not surprised by your results.
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I noticed the same thing a while ago and am just hoping there is some issues with the fact that these roms are being developed on leaked builds without the source code.
The key thing to notice in the attached screen shot is the near constant 1-3% cpu activity when the phone is not being used. On JH7 I could leave my phone on over night and only lose ~3% battery. Currently on Perception build 4 I lose ~20-25% overnight. On Cognition 2.3b3 I lost about the same.
I get about 16 hours on my captivate with light to moderate use on the froyo leak.
on Perception and Cog (latest builds) I was getting about 9-10 hours with very light use.
I need another battery
skippyg said:
I get about 16 hours on my captivate with light to moderate use on the froyo leak.
on Perception and Cog (latest builds) I was getting about 9-10 hours with very light use.
I need another battery
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I doubt the battery is your problem. As my test suggests, I am pretty confident that if you were to restore to stock, you would find your battery risen from the dead.
I can vouch for the OP about battery life. Battery life on JH7 is WAAAAYY better than any custom 2.2 ROM. I am running stock JH7 with Atimns v1.10 Voodoo kernel. Beats the pants off of the Cognition 2.3b6 ROM I was using battery-wise. In my experience, all of the Froyo based ROMs have battery issues. :-(
I just searched up a little bit more and found that the sensor is using a lot of juice because of a bug in the picture gallery app included in all froyo roms/leaks. I checked my sensor use and sure enough it was at 6 hours non stop. uninstalled using root explorer installed the Gallery3D.apk found on this site and now the use is at 2 seconds. I hope this was the cause. Also, is the android system supposed to be using so much of the sensor? My phone has been on for 11 minutes (reboot) and the battery history in *#*#4696#*#* says its been on for exactly the same amount of time...
sorry for the thread jack!
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I just searched up a little bit more and found that the sensor is using a lot of juice because of a bug in the picture gallery app included in all froyo roms/leaks. I checked my sensor use and sure enough it was at 6 hours non stop. uninstalled using root explorer installed the Gallery3D.apk found on this site and now the use is at 2 seconds. I hope this was the cause. Also, is the android system supposed to be using so much of the sensor? My phone has been on for 11 minutes (reboot) and the battery history in *#*#4696#*#* says its been on for exactly the same amount of time...
sorry for the thread jack!
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The issue with the gallery using the sensor has been known for some time. If you our the rom dev did not change out the apk, you should.
Well I changed it and my battery has been going great! Heavy use with 5% decrease per hour since I replaced it.
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To be fair...the custom ROMs I have tried each had WiFi set to always on. The stock ROMS from had is set to only be on when the screen was on. Depending on the availability of a WiFi AP, this can make a huge difference. Looking for a WiFi AP to connect to is costly.
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To be fair...the custom ROMs I have tried each had WiFi set to always on. The stock ROMS from had is set to only be on when the screen was on. Depending on the availability of a WiFi AP, this can make a huge difference. Looking for a WiFi AP to connect to is costly.
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In my case, this was not the difference for me. I always had my WiFi always on, even with the screen off. I turned it off manually if I know I am going to be some where WiFi is not available. The battery drain is definitely somewhere else....but these are leaked Froyo ROMs for a reason.
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In my case, this was not the difference for me. I always had my WiFi always on, even with the screen off. I turned it off manually if I know I am going to be some where WiFi is not available. The battery drain is definitely somewhere else....but these are leaked Froyo ROMs for a reason.
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do you know how to switch a rom from always on to only being on when the screen is on? i'm running a custom rom and i'm not seeing this setting anywhere aside from completely toggling wifi
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do you know how to switch a rom from always on to only being on when the screen is on? i'm running a custom rom and i'm not seeing this setting anywhere aside from completely toggling wifi
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Wifi settings> menu > advanced
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Wifi settings> menu > advanced
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whoa, cant believe i never saw that menu before. so setting it to 'when screen is off' will give better battery life?
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whoa, cant believe i never saw that menu before. so setting it to 'when screen is off' will give better battery life?
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It depends. If there is a lot of data transfers going on and WiFi is off with the screen, these transfers will take place over 3G, which in more cases is not as power efficient as WiFi, all else being equal.
I'd say, WiFi always on is better, in my experience anyway. Mileage may vary.
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It depends. If there is a lot of data transfers going on and WiFi is off with the screen, these transfers will take place over 3G, which in more cases is not as power efficient as WiFi, all else being equal.
I'd say, WiFi always on is better, in my experience anyway. Mileage may vary.
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For me personally I get terrible battery life when wifi is on. Everyone on here seems to say that leaving wifi on saves battery but this has never been the case with any device I've ever owned . And I'm talking about when I'm sitting home in an area with good wifi reception too.
I can't figure my battery out at all. On the weekends if I stay home and keep wifi on my battery will be on for 20 hours and still have 65% left. Once I leave home and I'm using 3G I can only get about 5 hours. I've lost 20% or more per hour without even touching my phone.
Another weird thing is under battery usage and "cell standby", it always shows time without signal at 50%. Never more and never less, always 50% exactly. Any ideas?
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Another weird thing is under battery usage and "cell standby", it always shows time without signal at 50%. Never more and never less, always 50% exactly. Any ideas?
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Wish I had the answer for this too. Mine says the same exact thing. Always 50% yet I always have signal where I am. I'm hoping it's some sort of miscalculation and not a major bug where network connections are being dropped constantly and not being shown.
I get three+ days with my phone...
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Man, I thought I was in my own boat. Same exact symptoms across Cognition, Perception, Axura, you name it. Something weird though is that the first day is always great on battery, then after a night's charge it goes back to the 12 hr max per day (moderate usage). On stock it definitely lasts a lot longer. can't wait for an official froyo release... especially now that I have to use Good Messaging, another huge battery hog.
Put it to a real test. Went to the grand prix today in st. pete.
Didnt even have a full charge around 90%. Had 4g on all day.. Brightness all the way up. Facebook , twitter, and 2 e-mail accounts running in the background. Took tons of video clips and tons of pictures, and streamed music through the bluetooth on the way home. As I type this its been 10 hours since it came off the charger and its at 50% battery with all the same items running.
At 1st I had very very bad battery life. But after using it for a few days and then doing a battery pull (read it would get better after all this) it has been working great, with the same or more use then I was doing the 1st few days of ownership. Just wanted to share a postive experience on battery life since I keep hearing and reading so many negative things.
Edit: Thunderbolt not tunderbolt LOL
Thanks for the tip.
I'm noob w battery. Do you mean just charge it full, pull it out and put it back in and it lasts you that much? I'm skeptical....The most I could have so far is 12 hours and I have 3 bars (out of 10) left.
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Thanks for the tip.
I'm noob w battery. Do you mean just charge it full, pull it out and put it back in and it lasts you that much? I'm skeptical....The most I could have so far is 12 hours and I have 3 bars (out of 10) left.
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The main reason people are having drain on 4g from what i heard was the software for the radio was re-written at the LAST minute (the reason for the delay) because they had to change their 700 MHz frequency just a bit higher.. something like 5 or 10 Mhz due to interference with with communication towers at airports. this sucker keeps dropping 4g like its no ones business. the new baseband which will be pushed out in the first update for the phone (hopefully in next month) should correct it.
Thats funny because i was at the gp today and my battery died before i left at 1p. Took a couple of pictures and 1 video. Used gps for like 10 mins and that was it. Stayed in my pocket for the rest of the day.
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I Disabled my 4G with dialing the *#*#(forgot the 4 numbers)*#*# and my battery has been lasting me alot longer
I'm in a 4G area so I have the phone set to LTE mode only and I get great battery life.
I probably have the worst battery life ever... 70% before putting it away and not using it. 5 hours later, I check my battery and I'm at 10%!! I didn't even use it!
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my battery was about to die on me today within 3 hours of being off the charger, granted it was with heavy use.. flashing multiple roms using titanium backup etc... but i still think that is asinine..
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my battery was about to die on me today within 3 hours of being off the charger, granted it was with heavy use.. flashing multiple roms using titanium backup etc... but i still think that is asinine..
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flashing roms will eat battery...once you are on a rom it takes a cycle or 2 to settle
anourack said:
I probably have the worst battery life ever... 70% before putting it away and not using it. 5 hours later, I check my battery and I'm at 10%!! I didn't even use it!
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U need to learn how to charge it. Search around.
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The battery life on the TB is just as good as it was on my rooted dinc with a custom kernal. I have no complaints with stock unrooted TB so far and I use the **** out of it.
I turned off 4g and am going 16 hours on 50% battery. Really, to sit in my pocket, do calls, text, and check email I don't need 4g. I too noticed the 4g radio switching on and off constantly. Hopefully the baseband update will fix this.
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I turned off 4g and am going 16 hours on 50% battery. Really, to sit in my pocket, do calls, text, and check email I don't need 4g. I too noticed the 4g radio switching on and off constantly. Hopefully the baseband update will fix this.
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It has more to do with where you live and how good your 4G coverage is
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i get 12hrs easy with moderate use. All I've done is turn off the GPS services when not needed and disable the lock screen... hope things improve for everyone having issues... :/
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U need to learn how to charge it. Search around.
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What do you mean, is there a special way to charge it now?
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What do you mean, is there a special way to charge it now?
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I think he may be referring to the "bump" charge. Where you charge the phone to full, unplug it, turn it off, charge it to full again, unplug, turn it on, and charge it to full again. Not sure if this is an HTC thing or just a general lithium ion battery thing. But it helps IMO.
I get about 12 hours of battery life with moderate use. I little web surfing, lots of texting, light app usage. My phone is constantly switching from 4G to 3G when I'm indoors. Outside though I'm fine. I'm surprised about the different experiences people are having with battery life.
Since I can't get through a whole day without it dying I bought a second home charger on amazon. I'd like to get the extended battery, but it looks like it'd make this phone too big at that point. I wish there was some better battery tech coming out soon, since there hasn't been too much progression on that front.
Turn on the wifi radio. When you are home or anywhere you have access to wifi, the device will automatically turn the 4g radio off when wifi is up. That simple change has made a huge difference and I dont have to worry about turning the 4g radio on/off manually.
I've been seeing, under heavy use, at minimum 8 hours of use consistently since I've been through a few cycles, including bump charging the first few cycles. Also, a few things that greatly helped me:
Read somewhere that the stock blockbuster app, even if it has never been opened, has a service that updates the movie catalog in the background. Run the app, update it, and in settings turn off movie catalog updates. After doing this my battery didn't drain nearly as fast while in my pocket. I can't verify that this actually helps, but it did for me. I disabled the 4G radio since I live in a 3G area as well.
I also run Green Power as of this morning. My phone has been running over 12 hour with 3:30 of that being actual usage and I'm at 68% remaining. I have it set to 1 minute on and 10 off for data while it is locked in my pocket.
Beyond that, GPS is disabled unless I need it. So is WiFi. Brightness is at about 30%, with a widget to bump it to full when I'm outside in sunlight. I also noticed a big jump when I disabled HTC sense Facebook updates, and used stock Facebook instead. Every time I went to contacts it would download that contacts Facebook updates, which is pointless and uses data constantly under normal usage.
Of course your mileage may vary, but this all gets me through the day under normal usage, and over a half day under heavy usage.
I am currently at 8.5 hours with 79% left on my battery. Stock Battery. If I didn't have to work tomorrow, and be able to make phone calls and such I'd leave my phone unplugged all night to see how long it can go.
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I am currently at 8.5 hours with 79% left on my battery. Stock Battery. If I didn't have to work tomorrow, and be able to make phone calls and such I'd leave my phone unplugged all night to see how long it can go.
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I'm assuming thats with Virus Rom as it says in your sig? If so, that makes me want to try it. I'm stock unrooted right now, haven't had time to invest in rooting the ADB original method yet, don't want to rush through it. When I do, I fully intend to try that rom out.
There are a lot of battery threads out there, but i wanted to try something new. I want to see how much our phones drain in real world situations. So here are the rules:
1. Use your phone normally for ten minutes.
2. Note your battery percent at the beginning and then at the end.
3. Post details about what you did, what ROM you're using, and the percent battery drain.
Hopefully we can compare our experiences and learn something.
I used my phone to surf a few websites, send one text, and use xda app. Started at 80% and ended at 77%. Using rcmix3d at 50% brightness.
I know there are tons of factors that affect battery drain, and I'm not trying to be scientific. I'm just curious how we all compare!
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The only way you will get a decent idea is to test with others in your area as it will depend alot in signal strength. I would use more battery if I was bouncing between signals instead of having a steady connection.
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There are a lot of battery threads out there, but i wanted to try something new. I want to see how much our phones drain in real world situations. So here are the rules:
1. Use your phone normally for ten minutes.
2. Note your battery percent at the beginning and then at the end.
3. Post details about what you did, what ROM you're using, and the percent battery drain.
Hopefully we can compare our experiences and learn something.
I used my phone to surf a few websites, send one text, and use xda app. Started at 80% and ended at 77%. Using rcmix3d at 50% brightness.
I know there are tons of factors that affect battery drain, and I'm not trying to be scientific. I'm just curious how we all compare!
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Screen-on time is the only thing I ever look at. I've only managed to squeeze about 5h45m, out the sense-based gb ROM I've been using.
The phone does really well in standby on most if not all roms that have been flashed properly, don't have non-rom-related battery hogging app issues, and, as zelendel mentioned, signal issues.
It's this big fat screen that's obviously the biggest battery sucker.
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Screen-on time is the only thing I ever look at. I've only managed to squeeze about 5h45m, out the sense-based gb ROM I've been using.
The phone does really well in standby on most if not all roms that have been flashed properly, don't have non-rom-related battery hogging app issues, and, as zelendel mentioned, signal issues.
It's this big fat screen that's obviously the biggest battery sucker.
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My phone does great in standby as well, but seems to die quick when I'm actually using it. I've never had an issue with the phone dying on me though as I recharge every night. I think i had a little better battery life on miui than I'm getting now.
I know there are many many factors that go into battery performance, I'm just curious what other people actually get when using their phones.
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My phone does great in standby as well, but seems to die quick when I'm actually using it. I've never had an issue with the phone dying on me though as I recharge every night. I think i had a little better battery life on miui than I'm getting now.
I know there are many many factors that go into battery performance, I'm just curious what other people actually get when using their phones.
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I've gotten accustomed to putting my phone on the charger before bed as well. Mine pretty much will last the entire day... Off charger at ~8-9am, back on it at ~12am.
Averaging about 5 hrs screen on time with usually no voice calls of significant length, WiFi on, gps off, relatively stable signal.
I'm running Inspired Ace 1.0.1, and the 04.11_M2 radio. Seems I was getting a little better with the OTA radio, but signal fluctuated a lot more on that one, than with the 04.11_M2.
Edit: doesn't really use your testing procedure, just more of a general feeling, as there's so many other contributing factors...
10 minutes of on-line gaming (storm8 games) = 10% drain
WiFi off, gps off, mobile data on, screen brightness on auto, stock rom
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10 minutes of on-line gaming (storm8 games) = 10% drain
WiFi off, gps off, mobile data on, screen brightness on auto, stock rom
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Holly crap that's a heavy drain. I couldn't possibly use this phone with that type.of battery drain. Thanks to our great dews I managed a little over 7h screen on time. Could only accomplish that by reducing the screen brightness and UC to 768mhz. Stick speed and auto brightness I get about 6-6 1/2 screen on.
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My battery will drain about 5% if I even just leave it sitting for ten minutes... I JUST rooted my Inspire and flashed the RCMix3D ROM, and it almost seems worse. Have background data, auto sync, wifi, gps, bluetooth, all that stuff shut off, too. I love this rom, but really want to find one that improves battery life!
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My battery will drain about 5% if I even just leave it sitting for ten minutes... I JUST rooted my Inspire and flashed the RCMix3D ROM, and it almost seems worse. Have background data, auto sync, wifi, gps, bluetooth, all that stuff shut off, too. I love this rom, but really want to find one that improves battery life!
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You probably got a bad flash, or have something else running, as I mentioned in your recent thread.
Did you full wipe prior to flashing?
Try out gingerbeast, if you still have battery issues with that, after properly wiping prior to flashing of course, then it's hardware, as that ROM has produced some record-breaking battery life performance.
Mine has twice decided to randomly have days where it just drains like crazy. The battery is a lot warmer and just dies out in like 6 hours with very minimal usage. the majority of the time my battery is great but the last 2 days and then about a month ago it did this. No reason for it either, I have made no changes on my device.
Anybody seen this?
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You probably got a bad flash, or have something else running, as I mentioned in your recent thread.
Did you full wipe prior to flashing?
Try out gingerbeast, if you still have battery issues with that, after properly wiping prior to flashing of course, then it's hardware, as that ROM has produced some record-breaking battery life performance.
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Yeah I did a full wipe before flashing. I'll be sure and try that out tomorrow, I really hope it helps. If the issue is hardware, should I contact HTC? After I believe you said my phone should still be under warranty, I called them, and indeed it is. The rep I had before must have been new or something. Thanks
From a full charge, on TPGB with wifi, gps, and sync on, and everything refreshed 3-4hrs, I lasted about 8 hours. I was using super accurate gps for 20 minute intervals or so, but it lasted the day I'd say. Some occasional web browsing.
Lucky for me my head unit on my car has a usb port. For this whole trip I left it off though.
Hey,
3 days ago my mobile Internet flatrate ran out, I don't really think that this has anything to do with this but I try to provide as much information as I can.
My Nexus S was bought December last year and never really had any problems.
But now for 3 Days I have to charge that thing every damn day and the battery only lasts 18-19 hours instead of 2+ days. I haven't really used the phone in the last 3 days except from recieving calls and using whatsapp.
I have also not installed any apps in this time.
Here a screenshot from my current battery live. (Seems to be always awake)
(ICS 4.0.4 Rooted, Stock Kernel, Stock Launcher.)
Thank you guys in advance!
What does it say is the top consumer of power on the battery usage percent chart. We can't help you very much without that. Also, grab BetterBatteryStats. That will help tremendously as it can damn near narrow it down to a single culprit.
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What does it say is the top consumer of power on the battery usage percent chart. We can't help you very much without that. Also, grab BetterBatteryStats. That will help tremendously as it can damn near narrow it down to a single culprit.
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Oh damn haven't even looked at it.
Says 45% Whattsapp
32% Google Services
will download better Batterystats now. But first I will just reinstall whatsapp.
EDIT: I just reinstalled Whatsapp and will now wait what the battery says in a few hours before I buy betterbatterystats.
Thank you so far, will report back.
Yeah. Those two are probably trying to "phone home" constantly, thus causing a drain. That may be what the issue is. From the looks of it, it looks like your signal isn't stellar either. How good is Whatsapp over EDGE speeds? The 3g connection just might not be strong enough, trying to search for a signal and also draining the battery.
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Yeah. Those two are probably trying to "phone home" constantly, thus causing a drain. That may be what the issue is. From the looks of it, it looks like your signal isn't stellar either. How good is Whatsapp over EDGE speeds? The 3g connection just might not be strong enough, trying to search for a signal and also draining the battery.
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Your guess is quite good, because in my room and ONLY in my room there are some severe problems with network connectivity for almost everyone.
(But battery life was good just a few days ago?)
I currently have no mobile Internet and only use WLAN. Just disconnected phone from charger and will now see how it runs.
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Your guess is quite good, because in my room and ONLY in my room there are some severe problems with network connectivity for almost everyone.
(But battery life was good just a few days ago?)
I currently have no mobile Internet and only use WLAN. Just disconnected phone from charger and will now see how it runs.
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If you have "no mobile Internet" and WiFi is off (as in screenshot), this is your issue. The android processes are trying to re-connect keeping your phone from deep sleep. In Mobile Network Settings, disable Data. Turn on WiFi, and set Keep WiFi on during sleep to Always. When you are out of WiFi range, disable background sync.
I've noticed something on 4.0, at least in my case. Huge wake locks for no reason in airplane mode. The phone home thing is most likely the cause. Google must have changed something in the way their apps operate because this never happened in gingerbread for me.
Well, so I have observed it a little more and battery usage by google services is now up to 70%.
Thank you for the suggestions I'll try now.
But why the hell does this issue come just now? I have 4.0.4 since it came out and the issue just appeared about 5 days ago.
I wish I knew. I've got mine in airplane mode now, but no SIM in it. I've got a G2 as my daily driver now. The Nexus hasn't had any more of the airplane mode wakeups strangely enough though. Wish I knew what was actually causing mine.
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I wish I knew. I've got mine in airplane mode now, but no SIM in it. I've got a G2 as my daily driver now. The Nexus hasn't had any more of the airplane mode wakeups strangely enough though. Wish I knew what was actually causing mine.
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So to report back again, I tried SpookyTunes suggestion for one cycle of battery life.
Then after recharging I went into the app management and force-stopped the google services framework and deleted the cached files afterwards.
So now I'm back to 3% battery usage (from Google Services Framework) for the last hour.
I would give it more time to see what it uses over the course of the day.
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Okay just to deliver on my part and report back.
Here's a screenshot of my battery life now.
Google Service isn't even shown in the battery list anymore!
any news????
Hello all.
I'm getting the feeling I'm not exactly getting the battery life I should be getting with this phone.
I had another LG G2 before the one I currently have now. I swapped it out during the 14-day return period. That one had screen flickering (which I now know that is due to content adaptive contrast etc.) and [aesthetic] the day after actually getting the phone, getting a scratch on it. However, with that day of having the phone, I felt as if I got better battery life compared to this one. That phone had Carrier IQ running on it when I didn't know anything about it. I only knew about Carrier IQ's problems once I had the current G2.
I'll post my battery results at the end of the current day from GSam, but attached are my current battery results at the given moment.
I have been using it actively since 6AM or so.
Screen at 30% brightness, WiFi on all the time. I have made the effort to disable all AT&T bloat and I have stopped Carrier IQ, LG Intelligent Agent or whatever its called and SmartCard.
I'm unrooted, totally stock (what comes out of the box). I have KNOCK ON disabled along with SlideAway if that helps.
No gaming has ever been had on this phone. Just Facebook, Messenger, and Chrome for browsing the web. I also listen to Google Play Music.
I talked on the phone with AT&T on Wednesday and they suggested a factory reset, and if it didn't fix it, to warranty the phone out...which would result in a refurbished phone and I'm kinda not okay with that because I paid for a new phone and I don't like having to get a refurbished one that is supposed to resolve my issue somehow. That's just me though.
Last night, I charged up to full while the phone was shut off. Factory reset my G2 and I still get this feeling I'm not really getting proper battery life.
Are these the type of results of what I should be getting? Not representative of a day actually out and about (which will be Monday as I have school then), rather at home. I will give stats of the end of the day use of Monday...at the end of Monday. Thanks in advance, and hopefully I have given enough info AND stats. I'm still sorta new to XDA.
I'm sorry, but you have 3 hours of screen on time and only used 40% of your battery. I think that is pretty darn good. I wouldn't be concerned with this. You are making me wonder about my device.. I have 62% left and only 1.5 hours screen time
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born_fisherman said:
I'm sorry, but you have 3 hours of screen on time and only used 40% of your battery. I think that is pretty darn good. I wouldn't be concerned with this. You are making me wonder about my device.. I have 62% left and only 1.5 hours screen time
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Really? Huh. I just ..all the reviews claim high numbers...and with heavy usage of close to a day. People mention such screen time and more (4+), with getting upwards of 30 total hours of usage etc.
Have you disabled Carrier IQ?
LucariX said:
Really? Huh. I just ..all the reviews claim high numbers...and with heavy usage of close to a day.
Have you disabled Carrier IQ?
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No I haven't. I've only had the G2 for a couple days, coming from HTC One. Att is letting me try this phone out to see if I want to swap it after all the warranty exchanges I've had due to purple camera issues. I didn't know carrier iq was an issue, but I will look into it
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No I haven't. I've only had the G2 for a couple days, coming from HTC One. Att is letting me try this phone out to see if I want to swap it after all the warranty exchanges I've had due to purple camera issues. I didn't know carrier iq was an issue, but I will look into it
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Ahh okay. The G2 is a nice phone in terms of performance, functionality etc. Battery life was supposed to be a major feature of this phone because of the optimization and battery size...so that's why I'm concerned when others are seeming to get much better results.
If you don't mind me asking, why are they giving you a One for warranty exchange? I personally wanted a One before this phone, but it was cheaper, had better features, specs and battery life etc.
EDIT: just noticed you stated the purple camera issue. Sorry..I didn't know that was a problem with it though. Last I heard of such was with the iPhone 5's new sapphire lens...but that was fixed through a software update (somehow).
LucariX said:
Ahh okay. The G2 is a nice phone in terms of performance, functionality etc. Battery life was supposed to be a major feature of this phone because of the optimization and battery size...so that's why I'm concerned when others are seeming to get much better results.
If you don't mind me asking, why are they giving you a One for warranty exchange? I personally wanted a One before this phone, but it was cheaper, had better features, specs and battery life etc.
EDIT: just noticed you stated the purple camera issue. Sorry..I didn't know that was a problem with it though. Last I heard of such was with the iPhone 5's new sapphire lens...but that was fixed through a software update (somehow).
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Yea the One is a great phone - I'm still not sure what I want to do yet! The problem is with most of the first months the phone was built. My wife has the mini and it was built in September- she doesn't have the purple issue. I could just send the One into HTC and have them fix the camera.. I am a little disappointed with the G2 shutter speed with flash on tho; but I am pretty sure this is fixable with a software update.
Is Carrier IQ really draining the battery? Is that why my idle battery life is terrible?
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Yea the One is a great phone - I'm still not sure what I want to do yet! The problem is with most of the first months the phone was built. My wife has the mini and it was built in September- she doesn't have the purple issue. I could just send the One into HTC and have them fix the camera.. I am a little disappointed with the G2 shutter speed with flash on tho; but I am pretty sure this is fixable with a software update.
Is Carrier IQ really draining the battery? Is that why my idle battery life is terrible?
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The G2 takes a bit of time in low light (if thats what you're getting at) etc. because its trying to suck as much light as it can. It does a great job because it takes its time...its just understandable why its doing that. That's why its quick and speedy in proper light (which isn't too demanding). I'd rather have proper exposure at the expense of time.
Yes, carrier IQ is exactly why. Do a bit of searching around on Carrier IQ on the AT&T G2...its the only carrier variant of the phone affected by it. It causes major wakelock and demands GPS even when you have done everything to disable location services. I also recommend, while you're at it if you haven't, to disable WiFi and mobile network connection under location access in settings.
LucariX said:
The G2 takes a bit of time in low light (if thats what you're getting at) etc. because its trying to suck as much light as it can. It does a great job because it takes its time...its just understandable why its doing that. That's why its quick and speedy in proper light (which isn't too demanding). I'd rather have proper exposure at the expense of time.
Yes, carrier IQ is exactly why. Do a bit of searching around on Carrier IQ on the AT&T G2...its the only carrier variant of the phone affected by it. It causes major wakelock and demands GPS even when you have done everything to disable location services. I also recommend, while you're at it if you haven't, to disable WiFi and mobile network connection under location access in settings.
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I agree that I'd rather have a better picture than a faster snap When the lighting is good, the shutter speed is great - I posted a couple comparison shots on another thread about the One vs the G2.
As far as the CIQ - I disable IQ in Android system settings - as well as the wifi and mobile network location settings. Will see how this affects battery life.
I still think you are getting great battery life compared to mine - I'm down to 42% battery with 2hrs screen time.. I'm using Lux for brightness and it keeps the screen pretty dim compared to the built in auto brightness logic LG uses.
uninstall the maps update and disable the auto update for itband ur batteryvwill be good i just didbthat last night and my phone has been on forv24 hrs and im still at 69% with 4 hrs screen tine
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I agree that I'd rather have a better picture than a faster snap When the lighting is good, the shutter speed is great - I posted a couple comparison shots on another thread about the One vs the G2.
As far as the CIQ - I disable IQ in Android system settings - as well as the wifi and mobile network location settings. Will see how this affects battery life.
I still think you are getting great battery life compared to mine - I'm down to 42% battery with 2hrs screen time.. I'm using Lux for brightness and it keeps the screen pretty dim compared to the built in auto brightness logic LG uses.
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I'll check out Lux.
Also, see how your battery improves after disabling Carrier IQ etc. then we will compare and see who has better battery life. You should definitely notice a personal difference. You may not think there is something wrong with your phone anymore.
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uninstall the maps update and disable the auto update for itband ur batteryvwill be good i just didbthat last night and my phone has been on forv24 hrs and im still at 69% with 4 hrs screen tine
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Ahh okay. I tried a similar thing where I uninstalled updates and reinstalled... Cuz I read that somewhere. But now I'm doing this. Will report back if I see any difference.
LucariX said:
I'll check out Lux.
Also, see how your battery improves after disabling Carrier IQ etc. then we will compare and see who has better battery life. You should definitely notice a personal difference. You may not think there is something wrong with your phone anymore.
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I can't seem to disable ciq using system tuner - the check boxes are all grayed out-- any tips? do I need the pro version?
born_fisherman said:
I can't seem to disable ciq using system tuner - the check boxes are all grayed out-- any tips? do I need the pro version?
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I just do what you did earlier - go into Apps > disable IQ Agent running under Android system, go back, click Android system again and stop the actual service...and do that every time I reboot the device.
You can totally remove it I believe with root, but I have been aiming to refrain from rooting until my 1 year warranty with this phone is up
I average %5 per hour.
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I average %5 per hour.
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What type of usage? With WiFi, over data, brightness setting..etc?
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I just do what you did earlier - go into Apps > disable IQ Agent running under Android system, go back, click Android system again and stop the actual service...and do that every time I reboot the device.
You can totally remove it I believe with root, but I have been aiming to refrain from rooting until my 1 year warranty with this phone is up
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oh okay. I read people use system tuner app, but I'm not sure how as the check boxes for the running services are all grayed out so it isn't possible to uncheck them. unless a rooted phone is needed, I don't know, I can't find specific information on it.
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What type of usage? With WiFi, over data, brightness setting..etc?
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D800, stock, full brightness (not auto), Wifi when indoors, 4G LTE when outdoors with wifi on, blutooth on all the time, mix usage.
These were taken on different days. I always have wifi, 4G LTE and blutooth on.
I notice a drop when I have a lot of data transfer or a lot of screen time, but overall it never made me complain, I only complained to myself when I pushed it to limit because I got spoiled by good battery life and I stopped the habit of plugging it all the time. Now when I pick up, it has 30% and it can still last few hours easily, whereas before %30 meant "oh ohhhhh"..
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D800, stock, full brightness (not auto), Wifi when indoors, 4G LTE when outdoors with wifi on, blutooth on all the time, mix usage.
These were taken on different days. I always have wifi, 4G LTE and blutooth on.
I notice a drop when I have a lot of data transfer or a lot of screen time, but overall it never made me complain, I only complained to myself when I pushed it to limit because I got spoiled by good battery life and I stopped the habit of plugging it all the time. Now when I pick up, it has 30% and it can still last few hours easily, whereas before %30 meant "oh ohhhhh"..
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Okay, yeah. Nice stats. I'll see how things go so far with the past suggestion of Maps etc. but yeah I totally agree with 30% thing...its weird thinking that too. But I have adjusted...kinda.
Just a quick note on standby battery life - I used the phone until it completely shut off last night around 7pm or so.. at 10pm it was fully charged, so I pulled it off the charger. It is now 8AM, and the phone is still at 100%!! I did not get any texts/emails overnight, I left WiFi/4G on.. GPS stayed on along with Wifi/mobile network locations on.
When the phone shut off and I charged it, upon reboot, I did go into location settings and disable IQAgent.
I also removed some apps (Lux/GSAM), and reverted Maps to previous version. Not really sure if Lux or GSAM are a culprit or not.. I used GSAM on my One only because HTC removed the battery stats - LG has this in the battery info. Although GSAM is nice, it isn't really necessary unless drain is outrageous.
Let's see what today brings for battery life!
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Just a quick note on standby battery life - I used the phone until it completely shut off last night around 7pm or so.. at 10pm it was fully charged, so I pulled it off the charger. It is now 8AM, and the phone is still at 100%!! I did not get any texts/emails overnight, I left WiFi/4G on.. GPS stayed on along with Wifi/mobile network locations on.
When the phone shut off and I charged it, upon reboot, I did go into location settings and disable IQAgent.
I also removed some apps (Lux/GSAM), and reverted Maps to previous version. Not really sure if Lux or GSAM are a culprit or not.. I used GSAM on my One only because HTC removed the battery stats - LG has this in the battery info. Although GSAM is nice, it isn't really necessary unless drain is outrageous.
Let's see what today brings for battery life!
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I know for many, the standby of the phone is said to be a killer. I might just remove GSam too. I tried out Lux BTW and I was really shocked just how dim the display got where it was even hard to see in a dark room
So far I haven't noticed any change in battery life while consistently using the phone. However I will say when I rebooted real quick last night, I forgot to take care of Carrier IQ and noticed that the battery was dropping incredibly fast. I then remembered I forgot to disable it, and then all was well. Just shows how much of a difference it makes!