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I'm on HTC Sense for the today screen and the battery just almost die in 1 day?
anyone do something to fix it?
Hi, well I don't really get the same problem as people on this forum regarding the battery. On normal usage I have to charge the phone every 2 or 3 days. Maybe its just the way I use my phone...
Heres a few suggestions:
Try disabling the auto backlight function and setting brightness to just 10%. Afterall the big screen goes someway to eating up the battery.
Turn off any functions you aren't currently using. i.e. turn off bluetooth, wifi, hspda etc when you dont need them.
Also have you done a true full charge yet? It took me 3 full charges. i.e. use phone until 2% or there abouts. Then charge fully overnight. I did this 3 times and noticed the battery life got better. Others may tell you don't need to. But that is just my experience so i would share it with you.
Hope some of that can help.
I have expirenced increased battery life by disabling the HTC location services and GPS assist (quick GPS). Actually a dramatical improvement, which could also be expirenced by checking the temperature of the device.With GPS assist and location services turned on, the device was hot, and with the services disables it was *a lot* colder...
/Lars
cfu said:
Hi, well I don't really get the same problem as people on this forum regarding the battery. On normal usage I have to charge the phone every 2 or 3 days. Maybe its just the way I use my phone...
Heres a few suggestions:
Try disabling the auto backlight function and setting brightness to just 10%. Afterall the big screen goes someway to eating up the battery.
Turn off any functions you aren't currently using. i.e. turn off bluetooth, wifi, hspda etc when you dont need them.
Also have you done a true full charge yet? It took me 3 full charges. i.e. use phone until 2% or there abouts. Then charge fully overnight. I did this 3 times and noticed the battery life got better. Others may tell you don't need to. But that is just my experience so i would share it with you.
Hope some of that can help.
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disbled the backlight now. 10% brightness? it is alittle too dim? I will stick for 40%. It sucks the battery too quickly, so i charge it when it was down to 10%.
Next time I will do it when it on 2%, and check out the difference
Quark987 said:
I have expirenced increased battery life by disabling the HTC location services and GPS assist (quick GPS). Actually a dramatical improvement, which could also be expirenced by checking the temperature of the device.With GPS assist and location services turned on, the device was hot, and with the services disables it was *a lot* colder...
/Lars
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quick GPS was never on, i believed...
WOW...the HTC location was on all the time, it that why I got the gps bar like in 20seconds?
nbjring123 said:
disbled the backlight now. 10% brightness? it is alittle too dim? I will stick for 40%. It sucks the battery too quickly, so i charge it when it was down to 10%.
Next time I will do it when it on 2%, and check out the difference
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how did you disabled the backlight ?
So, it seems like the xoom wifi model looses its wifi connection after the screen is off for a few minutes; is there a setting that I can change to keep the wifi active all the time, or, is it a function of the built in battery savings modes?
thanks!
weird... I have not encountered this issue.... my xoom is binging all the time when sleeping notifiying me of emails and such.
is it a wifi only model, or a 3g/wifi?
thanks
I have a wifi only version and no problems with wifi
ok, I guess I need to hear from more wifi owners to know if mine has a problem, or its my router..Although I have a brand new cisco/linksys e4200, so it shouldnt be the router..
I have the wifi only model.
I just looked at the settings... go into the wifi settings click the disconnect policy, and make sure "never" is clicked.
thanks, that was the first thing I did..
i also downloaded Spare Parts from the market to see if that would help, but so far it doesnt seem to help at all..
wonder if I have a bad unit..
May I ask why you would never want it to disconnect when screen is off? You will get more battery not using data when data is not needed... I had to go in and do the opposite because I noticed my xoom was draining more than normal when screen is off. Went down five percent in 1 hour which is not good once changing it; it didnt budge when screen is off. just my two cents..
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May I ask why you would never want it to disconnect when screen is off? You will get more battery not using data when data is not needed... I had to go in and do the opposite because I noticed my xoom was draining more than normal when screen is off. Went down five percent in 1 hour which is not good once changing it; it didnt budge when screen is off. just my two cents..
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Well if u want data for updates and oush notifications you'll need wifi on. Mines on all the time even when screens off and my battery life is amazing.
If you're having lots of battery drain u might wanna check your "awake" time in battery usage and make sure you don't have a rogue app or widget keeping the Xoom awake while the screen is off. The CNN widget was doing this for me.
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Well if u want data for updates and oush notifications you'll need wifi on. Mines on all the time even when screens off and my battery life is amazing.
If you're having lots of battery drain u might wanna check your "awake" time in battery usage and make sure you don't have a rogue app or widget keeping the Xoom awake while the screen is off. The CNN widget was doing this for me.
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Understood. Yea for some reason my awake time is matching my battery use time 100 percent however there is nothing that I can find causing it. Doesnt seem to be draining my battery at all however. I dont have a weather app or cnn app and my running services are just the google framework and core apps / maps ,goog voice. oh well.
It's called WIFI Sleep Policy. Set it to "never."
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Well if u want data for updates and oush notifications you'll need wifi on. Mines on all the time even when screens off and my battery life is amazing.
If you're having lots of battery drain u might wanna check your "awake" time in battery usage and make sure you don't have a rogue app or widget keeping the Xoom awake while the screen is off. The CNN widget was doing this for me.
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my thoughts exactly..
battery usage is amazing for me, even with all the widgets I have running on it, which are at least 10 or so..
Easily getting over 12 hours of battery life, which is good, since you cant plug the damn thing in while its standing up..
The engineer who placed the power hole on the bottom should be shot...
wase4711 said:
my thoughts exactly..
battery usage is amazing for me, even with all the widgets I have running on it, which are at least 10 or so..
Easily getting over 12 hours of battery life, which is good, since you cant plug the damn thing in while its standing up..
The engineer who placed the power hole on the bottom should be shot...
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That's hardly a death sentence. Lol
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Anyone else experiencing this? Atrocious battery life post upgrade. Nothing odd running in background, program or processes. Rebooted phone. Started the day at 100% with moderate usage at best, I'm already down to 19%.
Battery life is relatively unchanged in mine after the mm update. Easily make it through the entire day with 50-60% battery life remaining. I disabled a whole bunch of the bloatware (and will be removing it entirely when I decide to root my phone) and battery life is wonderful.
shaels said:
Anyone else experiencing this? Atrocious battery life post upgrade. Nothing odd running in background, program or processes. Rebooted phone. Started the day at 100% with moderate usage at best, I'm already down to 19%.
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Mine has been fine, slightly better with doze/disabling packages. Do a back up through Smart Switch and try a factory reset. I do that every time I update.
I'm envious of your successes. I'll give it a bit to see if it stabilizes, if not I'll use SS and reset/restore.
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I'm envious of your successes. I'll give it a bit to see if it stabilizes, if not I'll use SS and reset/restore.
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I will recommend "Package Disabler Pro" to disable bloatware. Costs but is worth the cash.
Mine went through on Thursday and so far battery appears ok.
I have noticed however the lighting is messed up all over. Play books night light feature is broken and dims it to unrecognizable levels. I have to go into the settings again when in the book and disable auto lighting and manually raise it. When back at the list of books screen, the brightness drops to nearly off again.
Also it seems the notifications when listening to music are much louder. I could listen to mp3s via poweramp while reading a book and get an SMS text and itd be a light little sound. this is playing louder than my music and very annoying.
My batter life was horrible after the upgrade. Here's what I did to fix it.
1) Wifi sleep policy - Changed that to "While Charging" (big difference noticed after that)
2) Fully charged phone then let it run down to 0 (must let it power itself off)
3) Wifi Scanning has been moved under Location setting. Go to Location -> Improve accuracy, make sure Wi-Fi scanning is off.
Batter life is awesome now.
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My batter life was horrible after the upgrade. Here's what I did to fix it.
1) Wifi sleep policy - Changed that to "While Charging" (big difference noticed after that)
2) Fully charged phone then let it run down to 0 (must let it power itself off)
3) Wifi Scanning has been moved under Location setting. Go to Location -> Improve accuracy, make sure Wi-Fi scanning is off.
Batter life is awesome now.
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1: Apps/sync will use mobile data as priority if this is done while waiting to connect to wifi. In turn, using even more battery if an app/sync wakes the phone switching between networks.
2: This is damaging to Li batteries. To extend the life of your battery, it is better to keep it topped above 80% and cool(not very common in real world applications). These aren't Ni batteries, long gone are the days of "memory discharging".
If you don't need notifications at night, use airplane mode. I miss Xposed, Autotasker, and Amplify(formerly Bounce)... Greenify is a good alt atm
Note: Sometimes even Play service updates will introduce bugs and or "retarded" policies that will destroy the battery, especially the "Now" systems. It can happen at the most random times as well and not at all most. Every now and then the fat man will get stuck in the tube.
All thoughtful replies. I don't have Location on ever, unless I'm using Waze, so that's a non-issue for me. Allowing WiFi to sleep when the phone is off, while I'm only connecting via WiFi, effectively makes my smartphone a dumb phone, until I wake it up, right? The fact that I need to start changing around "normal" settings on my phone, to lesser benefiting ones, to get back to the battery life I had before I installed MM is pretty silly. I've been hoping things would settle down, but they don't. I can try using SmartSwitch later to see if that helps.
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1: Apps/sync will use mobile data as priority if this is done while waiting to connect to wifi. In turn, using even more battery if an app/sync wakes the phone switching between networks.
2: This is damaging to Li batteries. To extend the life of your battery, it is better to keep it topped above 80% and cool(not very common in real world applications). These aren't Ni batteries, long gone are the days of "memory discharging".
If you don't need notifications at night, use airplane mode. I miss Xposed, Autotasker, and Amplify(formerly Bounce)... Greenify is a good alt atm
Note: Sometimes even Play service updates will introduce bugs and or "retarded" policies that will destroy the battery, especially the "Now" systems. It can happen at the most random times as well and not at all most. Every now and then the fat man will get stuck in the tube.
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No, it will connect LTE and then switch to wifi. LTE use more battery life, the network switch uses a bit, then finally you are into wifi. If your phone wakelocks or alarms(location ping, play service ping, etc) it will use more battery than wifi always on. Personally, I've tested both to make sure a wifi wakelock bug hasn't been introduced as I do with every update and play service update(it does happen and it's horrible drain). I see more savings always on.
If you meant you disable mobile network, yes, dumb phone, text and call. Also, I disable mobile usually always as I piggyback off work cell at work, and always wifi at home. I only toggle mobile data when necessary.
jasong127 said:
My batter life was horrible after the upgrade. Here's what I did to fix it.
1) Wifi sleep policy - Changed that to "While Charging" (big difference noticed after that)
2) Fully charged phone then let it run down to 0 (must let it power itself off)
3) Wifi Scanning has been moved under Location setting. Go to Location -> Improve accuracy, make sure Wi-Fi scanning is off.
Batter life is awesome now.
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I believe this is what most people encounter. Most dont have unlimited data and use WIFI always. I think by default, WIFI is set to always on, even when phone screen is off. WIFI will rape your battery. I did my own tests with wifi vs 4g and just by using my 4g all the time, battery quadrupled. Many argued that WIFI uses less battery, and i have the best of the best wifi router/modem/isp with 5ghz ac excellent coverage. Not the case for me. I have unlimited and just stick with that now. Battery life on MM has been great for me.
My battery life is 4x better. I couldn't be happier.
shaels said:
Anyone else experiencing this? Atrocious battery life post upgrade. Nothing odd running in background, program or processes. Rebooted phone. Started the day at 100% with moderate usage at best, I'm already down to 19%.
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Been on MM for about five days now and my battery blows, so much worse than what it was!
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My battery life is 4x better. I couldn't be happier.
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Mine is exactly 4 times worse
Battery the same.
But I have to tap the screen harder to chose app.
Going to factory reset and start clean, been a while.
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Has Verizon released any new updates to patch the issues with Marsh Mellow update
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Has Verizon released any new updates to patch the issues with Marsh Mellow update
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Not that I know of.
Though they JUST released Marshmallow. Verizon is probably still patting themselves on the back even though they released several months late. What I'm waiting for is a miraculous root.
I never use my phone the same amount every day, so it's hard to say exactly what kind of battery life I get, but I have noticed that it has improved. I would usually be near 15% by 10pm after coming off charger at 6am. Now I float around 25% at 10pm. So it seems to be better, even if only slightly so.
I see a minimal improvement, but I was doing what I could without root prior to sleep unnecessary crap.
Weird, when thye MM updated happened, up until the last two days, I was getting much better battery life under MM. But the past few days my battery life has declined dramatically to the point that I am not getting through a day of minimal use. Screen only 2%, Android OS consuming 76%.
I just fiddled with settings (Changed Wifi sleep to While Charging; Turned off wifi scanning). I am going to also try a reboot to see if that helps. I swear it started just about the time I started looking at Nexus 6p replacements).
Update, rebooting, and removing a few more useless apps and battery life has returned.
Purpose of this thread is to discuss how adaptive battery works, how long it takes in terms of data collection by the algorithm to get the best results and most of all, I'd like to discuss our findings with it off and on in terms of idle drain and overall battery longevity.
How can we get a definitive answer on how this is supposed to work?
Also posted 4 poll options to see what is working best for some of us.
There has been several on-going discussions on other relative threads such as https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-3-xl/help/pixel-3xl-ram-management-problem-t3855914 & https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-3-xl/how-to/battery-drain-t3856149 but figured we consolidate.
Ill go first.
Idle drain is drastically greater with adaptive battery on.
SOT on average is 45 minutes less with adaptive battery on.
I was able to get "more" out of my battery with adaptive battery off.
masri1987 said:
Purpose of this thread is to discuss how adaptive battery works, how long it takes in terms of data collection by the algorithm to get the best results and most of all, I'd like to discuss our findings with it off and on in terms of idle drain and overall battery longevity.
How can we get a definitive answer on how this is supposed to work?
Also posted 4 poll options to see what is working best for some of us.
There has been several on-going discussions on other relative threads such as https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-3-xl/help/pixel-3xl-ram-management-problem-t3855914 & https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-3-xl/how-to/battery-drain-t3856149 but figured we consolidate.
Ill go first.
Idle drain is drastically greater with adaptive battery on.
SOT on average is 45 minutes less with adaptive battery on.
I was able to get "more" out of my battery with adaptive battery off.
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How long have you had the phone? Supposedly, the benefits of adaptive battery kick in after the phone recognizes your usage patterns.
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How long have you had the phone? Supposedly, the benefits of adaptive battery kick in after the phone recognizes your usage patterns.
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i got the phone last Wednesday, I want you to be right, but it just doesn't seem like the algorithmic AI learning is adapting fast enough...
Also my OCD isn't allowing me to tolerate it like that day after day until it decides to get it's act right.
Found this
https://stackoverflow.com/questions...tery-and-what-does-it-mean-for-app-developers
I still don't see why having adaptive battery on would get worse battery than having it off. It should get me the same battery life as having it off, only until the AI learns my usage better which by then it should extend the longevity of my battery
Left adaptive battery on.
Overnight loss is 11%
Look at the awake screen off time.
5 min phone call. Little WhatsApp and Facebook use.
With adaptive battery off I had 1.5 hour phone call 1 hour WhatsApp video call. Nearly 6 hrs sot, 3% overnight loss
masri1987 said:
Left adaptive battery on.
Overnight loss is 11%
Look at the awake screen off time.
5 min phone call. Little WhatsApp and Facebook use.
With adaptive battery off I had 1.5 hour phone call 1 hour WhatsApp video call. Nearly 6 hrs sot, 3% overnight loss
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Interesting... My battery life with adaptive battery is about the same as it was on my pixel 2, so I never thought turning it off might provide better results.
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!msg/phone-by-google/OZ2s3BuHVuQ/u_Li39QQBAAJ
My google product forum thread on this
Could the feature just be broken?
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Interesting... My battery life with adaptive battery is about the same as it was on my pixel 2, so I never thought turning it off might provide better results.
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try it for me plz, i might be trippin'
Mine seems to be doing good.
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Mine seems to be doing good.
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that's decent... with adaptive battery on?
It's crazy how this is working well for others and not for some ?
Where is the restricting apps option?
masri1987 said:
that's decent... with adaptive battery on?
It's crazy how this is working well for others and not for some ?
Where is the restricting apps option?
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No changes at all other then restricting battery to apps I always do in the app details screen and clicking battery and respite ting background battery
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No changes at all other then restricting battery to apps I always do in the app details screen and clicking battery and respite ting background battery
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that defeats the purpose of adaptive battery doesn't it?
What diff would it make if you had adaptive off + restricting battery to apps manually?
Also, how do you restrict battery to apps? Everytime i search "restrict" in settings i brings up adaptive
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that defeats the purpose of adaptive battery doesn't it?
What diff would it make if you had adaptive off + restricting battery to apps manually?
Also, how do you restrict battery to apps? Everytime i search "restrict" in settings i brings up adaptive
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Not sure but that's what I do for the best battery life. I don't turn off adaptive and just restrict apps I know have caused issues in the past for me. See the attached screen for where the battery restrict for each app is found.
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Not sure but that's what I do for the best battery life. I don't turn off adaptive and just restrict apps I know have caused issues in the past for me. See the attached screen for where the battery restrict for each app is found.
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thanks, what other apps do you have set on restricted? Curious since I never had to do this before with aggressive doze in oreo
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thanks, what other apps do you have set on restricted? Curious since I never had to do this before with aggressive doze in oreo
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Attached
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dope thanks,
So how do we get to that screen you just shared? because right now the only thing i see is doing them one by one
Settings. Battery. Adaptive battery. Restricted apps.
Edit. You have to restrict the apps you want one by one. I don't think you can do it in multiples.
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Settings. Battery. Adaptive battery. Restricted apps.
Edit. You have to restrict the apps you want one by one. I don't think you can do it in multiples.
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Thanks
Not sure what Google is trying to achieve with this.
Aggressive doze was so much better
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Mine seems to be doing good.
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Hello, would you link me this app please?
Sorry for the OT.
EDIT: Oh another thing.
Guys you're forgetting about the core.
Settings > System > Developer options > scroll to the bottom > Standby apps.
That is what really matters
Go play with the different buckets
More info: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/09/android-9-pie-thoroughly-reviewed/8/#h1
matteventu said:
Hello, would you link me this app please?
Sorry for the OT.
EDIT: Oh another thing.
Guys you're forgetting about the core.
Settings > System > Developer options > scroll to the bottom > Standby apps.
That is what really matters
Go play with the different buckets
More info: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/09/android-9-pie-thoroughly-reviewed/8/#h1
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thanks for this, makes sense
I wonder would these settings be saved to your gmail profile ? as in if i need to go back to stock or flash all would I have to re-set these up?
Anyone else experiencing huge Phone Idle battery drain? Prior to the March update it was around 2ish%, now it's averaging 12-15%
Idle drain and battery is crap,also has Nexus 5X and battery was also bad.
7 pro battery drain
In last few days I noticed battery drain. And as well I think it started same time I noticed screen flickering when in battery settings. Video explaining attached. As you can see its fine until I get deeper into settings then "system operacyjny...
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Anyone else experiencing huge Phone Idle battery drain? Prior to the March update it was around 2ish%, now it's averaging 12-15%
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Yes. mine was 4% over night with Bluetooth off. During the day it was very bad, with BT on. Tonight I'll go to bed @100% with BT on and see how it is. In the past, Blutooth was a major wakelock on this phone
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Idle drain and battery is crap,also has Nexus 5X and battery was also bad.
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Prior to the March update my battery was pretty good
For me it's still super good, using it often enough, start with 90, go to bed with 50-70% depending how much I used it (where with 50% it was a lot!)
I do have all the wiz disabled plus a load of google stuff.
I stumbled onto AccuBattery Pro and am glad it spells out discharge rate in percentages. Yaa... Camera is the most at 17%/H. Next is the Phone at 5.6%/H. Sitting near wi-fi most of the time, I suppose I cheat the phone's ugliness. And I just turn mobile data off with Better Internet Tiles. Now days I sit at home a lot and the cell towers are far away and crap. Damn. At work at the credit union, the cell tower was actually on the roof !
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For me it's still super good, using it often enough, start with 90, go to bed with 50-70% depending how much I used it (where with 50% it was a lot!)
I do have all the wiz disabled plus a load of google stuff.
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What? Did u voice type that? That makes no sense. What r u doing to get good battery life?
Idle drain here is about 0.6 %/h, satisfying enough for me. Nothing tinkered everything on stock. I just don't use AoD. WiFi and two SIM cards always active, no flight mode. Don't need Bluetooth hence off as well.
And of course no snake oil like Naptime.
Cheers
Toscha
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What? Did u voice type that? That makes no sense. What r u doing to get good battery life?
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Disabled everything I don't need. Use as little apps as needed. No gaming except Wordfeud ;}
Lots of Chrome use though, covers most of my needs.
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For me it's still super good, using it often enough, start with 90, go to bed with 50-70% depending how much I used it (where with 50% it was a lot!)
I do have all the wiz disabled plus a load of google stuff.
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Wiz?
The AI stuff that Google added. Switching most of that off saves quite a bit of juice.
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The AI stuff that Google added. Switching most of that off saves quite a bit of juice.
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Like what specifically?
Adaptive battery off
Smooth display off
Live translate off
Digital assistant off
Covid notifications off
Disable all unneeded apps (ymmv)
Etc
Or leave all that stuff turned on and use Naptime... It's quite useful unlike most battery apps.
Naptime - the real battery sav - Apps on Google Play
Makes your device sleep faster to save precious battery life when you need it
play.google.com
kodabmx said:
Or leave all that stuff turned on and use Naptime... It's quite useful unlike most battery apps.
Naptime - the real battery sav - Apps on Google Play
Makes your device sleep faster to save precious battery life when you need it
play.google.com
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I always worry about Apps where the latest reviews are 3 years old
Agreed, but it works - even though the last release was 2 years ago...
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Adaptive battery off
Smooth display off
Live translate off
Digital assistant off
Covid notifications off
Disable all unneeded apps (ymmv)
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May as well get a iPhone turning all the Google off lol
I just did a short test result of my P7P (running AncientOS) using Naptime+
Without it, i would have lost ~2% in the same time.
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Or leave all that stuff turned on and use Naptime... It's quite useful unlike most battery apps.
Naptime - the real battery sav - Apps on Google Play
Makes your device sleep faster to save precious battery life when you need it
play.google.com
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Isn't this like greenify?