[Q] OTA Updates to Stock ROM w/ Non-Stock Kernel and Recovery - Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey everyone,
So for the past couple of days I've been getting the notification that 5.1.1 has been downloaded and is ready to install, but I'm running a rooted stock ROM with CWM and ElementalX kernel, so I wasn't sure what would happen if I accepted the update. So my question to you all is just that; what will happen if I OTA update? I would imagine I'll lose root access and have to re-root, but would the OTA also flash a stock kernel and get rid of CWM? Or will the update create a load of problems since I'm not completely stock?
Thanks in advance for your help.

The OTA update will fail.
As of Lollipop, you have to have everything completely stock (including the recovery) to take an OTA update. You're better off just flashing another pre-rooted ROM or custom ROM which has been updated to 5.1.1.

Elluel said:
The OTA update will fail.
As of Lollipop, you have to have everything completely stock (including the recovery) to take an OTA update. You're better off just flashing another pre-rooted ROM or custom ROM which has been updated to 5.1.1.
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Thanks for the help!

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[Q] updating device.

I was just wondering, is the only way to be able to receive updates from Samsung is to be on the stock rom, I currently own a rooted Asus tablet with a stock rom But I can no longer receive Updates through Asus because of unlocked bootloader . So all in all I guess I'm asking how do the updates work on this phone with, root,unlocked boot loader, stock/custom roms. Thanks.
PhantomPlanet said:
I was just wondering, is the only way to be able to receive updates from Samsung is to be on the stock rom, I currently own a rooted Asus tablet with a stock rom But I can no longer receive Updates through Asus because of unlocked bootloader . So all in all I guess I'm asking how do the updates work on this phone with, root,unlocked boot loader, stock/custom roms. Thanks.
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It's all the same for all devices, unlocked bootloader you don't get OTA. If you're using custom/stock rom with unlocked bootloader, you just have to wait for a repack stock rom or update custom rom. If you have rooted pure stock rom you should able to receive OTA and use OTA root keeper to preserve root. If you modify your build.props or removed system apps, the update will failed. Hope that answer your quesiton.
buhohitr said:
It's all the same for all devices, unlocked bootloader you don't get OTA. If you're using custom/stock rom with unlocked bootloader, you just have to wait for a repack stock rom or update custom rom. If you have rooted pure stock rom you should able to receive OTA and use OTA root keeper to preserve root. If you modify your build.props or removed system apps, the update will failed. Hope that answer your quesiton.
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So from what I understand as long as Im on the stock rom even if its rooted I can receive updates and I need to use ota root keeper to continue to be rooted after an OTA update, correct?
buhohitr said:
It's all the same for all devices, unlocked bootloader you don't get OTA. If you're using custom/stock rom with unlocked bootloader, you just have to wait for a repack stock rom or update custom rom. If you have rooted pure stock rom you should able to receive OTA and use OTA root keeper to preserve root. If you modify your build.props or removed system apps, the update will failed. Hope that answer your quesiton.
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I should probably add, if I had just rooted and got twrp and made a backup of the stock rom, then flashed a custom rom and if I wanted to update could I just reflash the backup of the stock in twrp to be able to update, this would be for if they Didn't have a custom rom out for the latest update. As of right now I have a tablet on ics but I cannot update to jb because I don't have the jb boot loader or whatever, but say I was to flash a stock Asus rom on ics And use OTA rootkeeper Would I then be able to flash jb custom roms? I assume the OTA update from ics To jb installs the correct boot loader instead of having to do it manually from a cimputer, big thanks for any help.

[Q] Do I have to revert to stock before the 4.4.2 update will work?

I'm running a faux kernel, I'm rooted and have TWRP recovery.
I was on 4.4 and got the notice about 4.4.2 and I accepted. I then got distracted with something and when I came back, my phone was in TWRP recovery. I reset back to system but I see I'm still on 4.4.
So did it fail because I have a custom recovery? or a custom kernel? or root? or something else?
And basically, do I have to go back to full stock to be able to do OTA updates? Or is one of the 3 above I listed messing it up?
Never did OTA updates before so I'm new to this.
Thanks!
Bojamijams said:
I'm running a faux kernel, I'm rooted and have TWRP recovery.
I was on 4.4 and got the notice about 4.4.2 and I accepted. I then got distracted with something and when I came back, my phone was in TWRP recovery. I reset back to system but I see I'm still on 4.4.
So did it fail because I have a custom recovery? or a custom kernel? or root? or something else?
And basically, do I have to go back to full stock to be able to do OTA updates? Or is one of the 3 above I listed messing it up?
Never did OTA updates before so I'm new to this.
Thanks!
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Since you have a custom kernel you should fastboot flash the system and boot images from 4.4 before the ota. Of you don't it won't work.
jd1639 said:
Since you have a custom kernel you should fastboot flash the system and boot images from 4.4 before the ota. Of you don't it won't work.
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So it is the custom kernel that broke it?
Once I fix that, how do I get the OTA again? Right now I'm on 4.4 and when I check, it says I have the latest
depends... for the recent updates yes, there are patches for certain things so they need those files to be as stock to be able to patch them without issues. if n update comes in the future with a full set of images, then it may not require stock files.
Bojamijams said:
So it is the custom kernel that broke it?
Once I fix that, how do I get the OTA again? Right now I'm on 4.4 and when I check, it says I have the latest
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Just follow this and manually install the ota. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47369234

[Q] 4.4.4 OTA Update from 4.4.2 rooted and unlocked with Mods

Thank you guys in advance for your help but I just had a few questions. I am running 4.4.2 currently with the stock rom rooted and unlocked bootloader. I have however issued a few Mods such as extreme power saving and built in tether. Can I just load the 4.4.4 firmware and radios, switch back to stock recovery and take the OTA to 4.4.4 without having to wipe anything or since I have used some mods do I now have to wipe my device and put everything back after getting the 4.4.4 update. The reason I ask is I like having the stock features while just using google now launcher on top of sense. Also would any of you have a recommendation on a ROM to achieve this same thing so I dont have to go through this everytime I want to take the newest OTA if it is not possible to take without wiping.
jpgetter said:
Thank you guys in advance for your help but I just had a few questions. I am running 4.4.2 currently with the stock rom rooted and unlocked bootloader. I have however issued a few Mods such as extreme power saving and built in tether. Can I just load the 4.4.4 firmware and radios, switch back to stock recovery and take the OTA to 4.4.4 without having to wipe anything or since I have used some mods do I now have to wipe my device and put everything back after getting the 4.4.4 update. The reason I ask is I like having the stock features while just using google now launcher on top of sense. Also would any of you have a recommendation on a ROM to achieve this same thing so I dont have to go through this everytime I want to take the newest OTA if it is not possible to take without wiping.
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Flash the ruu here. That will get you to 4.4.3 the easy way and make you 100% stock so you can take the ruu. Then flash twrp and flash su or the rooted Rom of your choosing.
The RUU is one way to go, although I would never update via OTA...
Another would be to flash the firmware and radios from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2723159
And then Scott's rooted stock rom from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2914922
He usually has them up a few hours after a new OTA has been released. Even better - try his stock, debloated CleanROM once it's out.
This way you can keep your recovery. You can even try to just flash the 4.4.4 firmware and radios and see if it runs your current 4.2 ROM ok. But I would not update the rom from version to version without a wipe.
The setup is the price to pay for getting a new and hopefully better Android version.

S5 5.0.1 Update OTA or Odin?

I have a Galaxy S5 and it's on 5.0.1 Stock not rooted or Custom recovery. I want to install Blisspop 6.0.1. How would I go about doing this? Is it ok to install the 6.0.1 OTA and still be able to root and install custom recovery?
Edit: Ended up just OTA. Mod delete thread please??
It's probably easiest to update OTA, since it will preserve your apps, data, & settings. I wrote a step-by-step tutorial on how to update OTA to 6.0.1, install a custom recovery, and root. Here you go...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/spr...torial-step-step-instructions-how-to-t3363877
I believe blisspop is still based on 5 firmware. If you update you'll just have to go back to OK4 firmware to run it.

OTA Updates after reflashing to stock ROM

Hi all, I'm sorry if this is a stupid question but I just wanted to make sure I don't mess up my phone.
So I had flashed a Custom ROM (Resurrection Remix) on my Galaxy S7, but after a while I wanted to reflash it back to stock 8.0 Oreo which I have done successfully. Now of course the knox counter has been tripped, however the phone is unrooted and also no longer has TWRP as its recovery (just the standard android recovery now).
Now that I have flashed it back to stock, would it be safe to perform OTA updates on the phone? Someone had told me it would not be possible as I had flashed a custom ROM before and I just wanted to get some other opinions.
Thanks in advance!
OTA updates gonna work fine

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