[Q] Do I have to revert to stock before the 4.4.2 update will work? - Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm running a faux kernel, I'm rooted and have TWRP recovery.
I was on 4.4 and got the notice about 4.4.2 and I accepted. I then got distracted with something and when I came back, my phone was in TWRP recovery. I reset back to system but I see I'm still on 4.4.
So did it fail because I have a custom recovery? or a custom kernel? or root? or something else?
And basically, do I have to go back to full stock to be able to do OTA updates? Or is one of the 3 above I listed messing it up?
Never did OTA updates before so I'm new to this.
Thanks!

Bojamijams said:
I'm running a faux kernel, I'm rooted and have TWRP recovery.
I was on 4.4 and got the notice about 4.4.2 and I accepted. I then got distracted with something and when I came back, my phone was in TWRP recovery. I reset back to system but I see I'm still on 4.4.
So did it fail because I have a custom recovery? or a custom kernel? or root? or something else?
And basically, do I have to go back to full stock to be able to do OTA updates? Or is one of the 3 above I listed messing it up?
Never did OTA updates before so I'm new to this.
Thanks!
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Since you have a custom kernel you should fastboot flash the system and boot images from 4.4 before the ota. Of you don't it won't work.

jd1639 said:
Since you have a custom kernel you should fastboot flash the system and boot images from 4.4 before the ota. Of you don't it won't work.
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So it is the custom kernel that broke it?
Once I fix that, how do I get the OTA again? Right now I'm on 4.4 and when I check, it says I have the latest

depends... for the recent updates yes, there are patches for certain things so they need those files to be as stock to be able to patch them without issues. if n update comes in the future with a full set of images, then it may not require stock files.

Bojamijams said:
So it is the custom kernel that broke it?
Once I fix that, how do I get the OTA again? Right now I'm on 4.4 and when I check, it says I have the latest
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Just follow this and manually install the ota. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47369234

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[Q] How to install OTA with rooted, S-OFF, TWRP

A month ago I rooted the stock rom, S-OFF, and install TWRP. I tried another ROM, but it didn't really interest me. I realized, that I actually like the stock ROM.
However, now I want to install the 4.4.3 OTA update. Is that possible? If I follow the directions, the device reboots in to TWRP, but does not install the update.
How can I install the OTA update, if I have a custom recovery?
DBordello said:
A month ago I rooted the stock rom, S-OFF, and install TWRP. I tried another ROM, but it didn't really interest me. I realized, that I actually like the stock ROM.
However, now I want to install the 4.4.3 OTA update. Is that possible? If I follow the directions, the device reboots in to TWRP, but does not install the update.
How can I install the OTA update, if I have a custom recovery?
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It appears it is impossible: http://teamw.in/officialota
I guess I will have to completely reflash.
First off, it's not impossible. There's a thread in here with firmware that you can use and update without the OTA. Second, this is the wrong sub-forum for questions.
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I'm also trying to get to 4.4.3 but after trying to re install the old recovery, it tells me I can't do the OTA.
Jeez...if you guys have soff and twrp and whatnot just flash the stock rooted rom scott gave us. Simple as that. You'll find it here in the vzw one m8 android development section.
Or alternately, if you no longer require control of you device at the lowest levels then just flash dottats RUU and magically your phone will be 100% stock.
But yeah, wrong forum.
silver04v said:
Jeez...if you guys have soff and twrp and whatnot just flash the stock rooted rom scott gave us. Simple as that. You'll find it here in the vzw one m8 android development section.
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The reason to do the OTA, is because I am lazy. I don't feel like reinstalling all of my apps, etc. The OTA is a nice incremental upgrade.
Where can I find the stock recovery, and directions to flash back to it? It is my understanding, that if I do that, I can apply the OTA.

Back to stock and receive ota updates

Hello i rooted my nexus 5 and install a kernel and cwm recovery is it possible to back to stock and recive ota android updates with stock recovery if yeah how to do that?
Thanks.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/general/tutorial-how-to-flash-factory-image-t2513701
Return to stock only if you don't want root. If you do want root. You don't want OTA
rootSU said:
Return to stock only if you don't want root. If you do want root. You don't want OTA
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You can have ota and root, as long as you don't have a custom recovery. once you get the update you loose root, and have to root it back. just don't install a custom recovery if you want ota updates
As for getting ota back, you will have to flash stock images. that means wiping your device..
i.adrian said:
You can have ota and root, as long as you don't have a custom recovery. once you get the update you loose root, and have to root it back. just don't install a custom recovery if you want ota updates
As for getting ota back, you will have to flash stock images. that means wiping your device..
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Actually you can OTA with root AND a custom recovery. However my real point is just because you CAN, doesn't mean you SHOULD... And if that isn't clear - rooted users shouldn't rely on or think about OTAs.
how to back to original recovery?
natan.p said:
how to back to original recovery?
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If you really want to... Even though people are telling you you don't need to..
Just grab the factory images, inside update.zip there's recovery.img, flash that with fastboot.
Why do we go through this every time there is an update?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/general/info-nexus-5-ota-help-desk-t2523217

[Q] OTA update ?

I just bought my nexus 5 and it's rooted with a custom ROM. Will I still get the update? I have a backup of the stock ROM but not the stock recovery. Do I need to restore my backup and wait for the update? Thanks.
If you want the ota, go back to stock. Or wait a few days and flash lollipop from your custom recovery I once a Dev packages it up. Or fastboot flash it as soon as available.
Depends on how patient you can be and how technical you are prepared to be.
I will be editing far the system image and fast boot flashing myself.
I think you have to be on stock ROM with the stock recovery to get the 5.0 ota.
IMO you can wait for the factory images from Google and flash them directly rather then flash stock ROM and recovery now and wait for the ota, because OTA will hit later then the factory images.
evertking said:
I just bought my nexus 5 and it's rooted with a custom ROM. Will I still get the update? I have a backup of the stock ROM but not the stock recovery. Do I need to restore my backup and wait for the update? Thanks.
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U could have asked that in the lollipop thread...
No u will need stock recovery to flash ota.....
Also i would strictly advice u to either flash pure kitkat image...or lollipop image .... That would prevent most of the bugs u encounter wid userdata...
rootSU said:
If you're going to live in the rooted world, you should learn to do things properly. OTA is the worst way of managing a rooted phone, which is why I said OTA is super-noob. If someone is reliant on OTA updates, they probably should not be rooted in the first place.
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See above
There are also dedicated OTA threads as well as dedicated Lollipop threads. Nor does this belong in General.
This thread has all of the OTA info you could imagine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2523217
As mentioned above. We have a dedicated OTA thread.
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[Q] OTA Updates to Stock ROM w/ Non-Stock Kernel and Recovery

Hey everyone,
So for the past couple of days I've been getting the notification that 5.1.1 has been downloaded and is ready to install, but I'm running a rooted stock ROM with CWM and ElementalX kernel, so I wasn't sure what would happen if I accepted the update. So my question to you all is just that; what will happen if I OTA update? I would imagine I'll lose root access and have to re-root, but would the OTA also flash a stock kernel and get rid of CWM? Or will the update create a load of problems since I'm not completely stock?
Thanks in advance for your help.
The OTA update will fail.
As of Lollipop, you have to have everything completely stock (including the recovery) to take an OTA update. You're better off just flashing another pre-rooted ROM or custom ROM which has been updated to 5.1.1.
Elluel said:
The OTA update will fail.
As of Lollipop, you have to have everything completely stock (including the recovery) to take an OTA update. You're better off just flashing another pre-rooted ROM or custom ROM which has been updated to 5.1.1.
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Thanks for the help!

Is there a way to revert custom ROM to stock and keep the phone rooted?

Also, how can I tell what were the previous versions of Android that my phone had (STOCK)?
For example: there were several 5.1.1 versions or 5.0. versions - how do I know which one do I need?
Thanks.
The easiest way to have a routed rom would be to flash a stock rom from Google, flash twrp, and flash supersu from twrp.
audit13 said:
The easiest way to have a routed rom would be to flash a stock rom from Google, flash twrp, and flash supersu from twrp.
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Sorry if I didn't explain myself - my phone is rooted and I have a custom ROM. What I want to do is to go back to stock ROM but keep it rooted.
Thanks.
Flash a stock rom, then just root the stock rom. There is no other way unless you flash a stock pre-rooted rom.
audit13 said:
Flash a stock rom, then just root the stock rom. There is no other way unless you flash a stock pre-rooted rom.
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So you can't keep it rooted while flashing stock?
And how do you know which versions are for your phone (if I don't want to go back to the latest Marshmallow for example)?
You can only keep root when flashing stock if you find a prerooted stock image.
Google search for nexus factory images.
audit13 said:
You can only keep root when flashing stock if you find a prerooted stock image.
Google search for nexus factory images.
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Yes, I know that I need to Google for factory image, but there are several images with the same release. For example, there are three 5.1.1. (LMY48B, LMY48I and LMY48M). Same with 6.0.0. and 4 X 6.0.1 version. How do you know which one is for my device?
Thanks.
Any stock image for hammerhead will work on a hammerhead device. The reason it will delete root is you will have to flash system, and unless the system image you flash is prerooted, no more root.
wangdaning said:
Any stock image for hammerhead will work on a hammerhead device. The reason it will delete root is you will have to flash system, and unless the system image you flash is prerooted, no more root.
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Thanks!
Just trying to understand that difference between the different versions, or are these simply system updates, from XXX29K to XXX29S for example?
Changes in the android version 5.0->5.1->6.0 are fairly large system updates. Within 5.1.1 they are security patches.
If you have a rooted phone and talk about flashing, you should know this. Else you are a menace to your phone...
Root is a system modification - if you delete or reinstall the System partition, you'll lose root. But re-root is easy.
I recommend to read tutorials and get some knowledge before trying to root, flash or before asking those questions, where Senior xda-members just shake their heads.
The simple way to do what you seem to want is to back up all your important stuff (photos, etc.), install MMB29V (the latest March 1st 6.0.1 security version), install TWRP 3.0.0.0, and from TWRP flash SuperSU v2.70. It will take slightly longer than it's taken me to type this, but not much...
After that, when a new monthly security version comes out, flash system.img, boot.img & radio.img, and repeat the TWRP & SuperSU steps. No data loss.

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