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Just thought I would warn others that after only a week of owning my cool TP I noticed a scratch on the screen and button area. A very straight score down the middle. Lucky I had my screen protector fitted else I would have been very upset.
Replaced the protector a week ago and today noticed a similar score down the screen though less deep. I then realised that this was due to a piece of grit in my pocket that had slipped between the case and the screen and scratched it as I pulled it out of the case.
I have now ordered a proper fully closed case to give full protection and hope this is a warning to others!
Definitely invest in a screen protector, they don't spoil the look of the device or impede it's usability in any way, they are easy to apply and could save you a lot of tears! Then use a decent case!
am using martin fields protectors.... it is tough enough that when i dropped my phone on the stairs, the rest of the body is scratched except the screen area and hkey areas where it is protected.
i frequently use my fingernails too. i don't trust other screen protectors... used it for my previous Axim v51 and X500 ... device gave out before the protectors.. meh.
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am using martin fields protectors.... it is tough enough that when i dropped my phone on the stairs, the rest of the body is scratched except the screen area and hkey areas where it is protected.
i frequently use my fingernails too. i don't trust other screen protectors... used it for my previous Axim v51 and X500 ... device gave out before the protectors.. meh.
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Yes I was definitely satisfied with the Martin Fields solution, which I've reviewed on my Diamond. Will order one for my new TP as well.
The review is in Hebrew and was published here (with some photos)..
http://www.pocketpcfreak.com/archive/00007709.htm
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I saw someone scratch the screen protector on their Touch Pro right in front of me, he had just put the screen protector on it and put it into his case, it was one of those that holds it right on your hip... Took it back out, exactly what you're talking about, a nice line right across the screen.
If using the case provided, the ribbon inside is attached so that you can insert the phone from both ends. If you feel inside, one side will be folded over and therefore sticks out quite abit which feels quite abraisive, whilst the other side of the case is much smoother because the ribbon is not folded. Inserting the phone from the other side, reverses which side sticks out more. I ensure that the screen side is always slid in with the smooth side facing the screen. So far, this has been ok.......................
I have just got hold of the HTC Touch Standard belt pouch (PN: PO S322) and it fits perfectly with a standard belt clip.
Velcro so the Sliding magnetic keyboard sensor does not go T^Ts up!!
anyone know where i can get extra protectors for my tp?
Personally, I always keep my TP in my pocket, without a case. The only time I ever use a case is if I'm putting the phone into a bag or box with other gear which might scratch it. Also, I never put keys etc into the same pocket as the TP, only a handkerchief. I've kept phones this way for many years and never got a single scratch on my screen. The inside of your pocket is generally a nice soft place for your phone. Case not necessary! In fact, all the case does is muffle the speaker and make it harder for you to hear the phone ringing.
In fact, until I got my TP I never even used screen protectors. The only reason I'm using one now is because it came in the box!
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anyone know where i can get extra protectors for my tp?
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Where are you based?
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If using the case provided, the ribbon inside is attached so that you can insert the phone from both ends. If you feel inside, one side will be folded over and therefore sticks out quite abit which feels quite abraisive, whilst the other side of the case is much smoother because the ribbon is not folded. Inserting the phone from the other side, reverses which side sticks out more. I ensure that the screen side is always slid in with the smooth side facing the screen. So far, this has been ok.......................
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I haven't noticed the difference in the sides. I have been using this case for about a month and haven't seen any signs of scratching to the screen (although I have a screen protector on) or any other part.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=428279
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If using the case provided, the ribbon inside is attached so that you can insert the phone from both ends. If you feel inside, one side will be folded over and therefore sticks out quite abit which feels quite abraisive, whilst the other side of the case is much smoother because the ribbon is not folded. Inserting the phone from the other side, reverses which side sticks out more. I ensure that the screen side is always slid in with the smooth side facing the screen. So far, this has been ok.......................
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I agree with you. I always feel where the smooth side is and make sure that its the one facing the screen when I'm sliding my TP inside the leather case. So far I never had any scratches on mine.
I have noticed a small cut in my plastic (I haven´t taken of the large piece of plastic that came on then phone). From the middle of the screen and down to the edge.
I don´t get it! That folded ribbon ain´t sharp, it´s just wide, how the heck can it leave a cut like a scalpel? The other smooth side has a sharp thing in the seam, that could possibly cut but I really don´t think so.
I´m scared now, because there is a cut but nothing in the pouch can cut!
I just ordered one of these and recived it today.
Top pouch tbh
ebay
Item number: 270278860452
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I have noticed a small cut in my plastic (I haven´t taken of the large piece of plastic that came on then phone). From the middle of the screen and down to the edge.
I don´t get it! That folded ribbon ain´t sharp, it´s just wide, how the heck can it leave a cut like a scalpel? The other smooth side has a sharp thing in the seam, that could possibly cut but I really don´t think so.
I´m scared now, because there is a cut but nothing in the pouch can cut!
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Exactly!! Same happened to me. A very straight deep cut, saved only by the screen protector. I could only assume that a piece of grit got trapped between the sleeve and the phone. This wouldn't happen in an ordinary case, the pouch fits very tightly against the screen and this is where the danger lies. I have stopped using it.
Ran across this today searching for cases for the Epic. Anyone using one? Its interesting in that it locks the slider during normal use and hinges open if you want to use the keyboard.
http://www.pdair.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=10100000_10000000_11001061&products_id=31414
Now this looks like quite a nice case for functionality.
Now if they just took off the whole part in the back for the clip and form fit the corners a bit more and offered it in more colors that'd be nice.
This may be the best thing I can do for now, I have been scouring for a jelly case to slip over the epic, since I never use the keyboard
Now, if somebody has the ability to cleanly cut aluminum and wants to sell a matched set consisting of this case with a hole cut in the back for the hump on the extended battery the other guy is selling to poke through... (strokes credit card and sighs)
It's hard to tell from the pics... does the case snap onto the lower half, or does the phone just rest inside?
How firmly does it secure the phone when the case is closed? Does the power button still cause the two halves to separate a little, or are both held firmly in place from both sides?
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Now, if somebody has the ability to cleanly cut aluminum and wants to sell a matched set consisting of this case with a hole cut in the back for the hump on the extended battery the other guy is selling to poke through... (strokes credit card and sighs)
It's hard to tell from the pics... does the case snap onto the lower half, or does the phone just rest inside?
How firmly does it secure the phone when the case is closed? Does the power button still cause the two halves to separate a little, or are both held firmly in place from both sides?
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There are videos on you tube. The bottom looks like a very snug press fit. Top must be looser to allow for the hinge to work.
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I had a similar case for my old HTC Titan. I LOVED it. Being a pretty serious phone abuser, that case kept my phone together!
-Rob
I used to have a similar case for my Treo and they are extremely well made. I irregularly dropped my phone from about 5 feet in the air onto hard linoleum and it never suffered any indignities. These come in both black and silver so if you want a different color you would want the silver so you could send it out to be powder coated.
I just ordered one.
Mine came last night.
The good: locks the slider firmly closed. No wobble or "play" at all when pressing the power button. Phone easy to remove (for GameGripper purposes).
The bad: Feels terrifyingly slippery compared to the Seidio ActiveX. Obstructs "slide down" gesture for notifications.
The seemingly fatal (a big one): my "back" fake hardkey keeps randomly going berserk... but ONLY that specific one. The foam in the top half seems to be confusing the capacitive sensor.
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Update: I've had the 'search' fake hardkey freak out a few times on me, too.
Another problem: it's definitely affecting reception. 4G and GPS barely work with the case in place.
Sigh. So close. So agonizingly close. It's awesome to not have the phone shear and jiggle apart every time I hit the power button, and the fact that it allows the phone to be easily removed for the Game Gripper without really compromising the slide-out keyboard's usability is very cool.
I'm really convinced that this case went straight from plastic prototype to mass production before anyone actually tried to use it in an area with 4G service, high humidity (presumably what's screwing up the foam and touchscreen), and who didn't just assume that the GPS was dysfunctional because Samsung sucks.
Sigh. Too expensive to throw away, and really nice in ways that ultimately don't matter because the touchscreen-button problem makes it totally unusable
The plot thickens: more touchscreen observations:
* Oddly, there's NO FOAM around the lower part of the screen where the phantom-pressed fake hardkeys are.
* Last night, it went completely berserk with phantom button presses on cue when I rubbed the latch a certain way.
This suggests that the problem's root cause might extend to the electrical conductivity of the case itself. It's strange, because I wasn't able to find reports of the same problem for users of Monaco cases for other phones (like the Droid). Lots of complaints about signal attenuation, but no reports of touchscreen problems.
I'm seriously tempted to buy some liquid electrical tape and coat the inside of the lid to see whether it helps. The problem DOES seem to go away when the lid is no longer in contact with the screen. However, if it's happening because the sensor is acting kind of like a Hall Effect sensor and the case is acting like a Faraday cage, nothing short of making the case (or at least the top lid) out of plastic is likely to fix the problem. Still, it's worth a try since I really like the case itself, and my alternative is to basically chuck it.
Update: as an experiment, I wrapped black electrical tape around the bottom lip of the top part. It helped a lot. I think I might have also found a contributing cause: cat fur. I think wisps of cat fur might be bridging the metal case & screen and carrying static electricity to the sensor. Oddly, though, some of its *worst* back-arrow spasams have occurred with the phone laying on the desk, untouched, 3 feet away.
I'm still trying to think of a good way to plastic-coat the case without making it look bad & get a nice, even black rubbery coating on it.
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How thin is it compared to the other plastic cases?
Very interested in getting the Monaco Aluminum Case, which is very similar to this one. My last concern, how thin is it compared to Seidio Innocase Surface?
I dropped my Arrive onto a tile floor. As it slipped out of my hand a quick thought shot through my mind - should have bought the insurance. As pieces went everywhere I reached down to asses the damage.
The pieces were just the battery cover and batter. Since the keyboard was not out during the drop, I was surprised to see the battery cover come off, since I thought it impossible without extending the keyboard.
After putting everything back together and turning on the phone, all was well. Not a scratch or scuff to be found.
Whew!
That's one tough little bugger
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I dropped my Arrive onto a tile floor. As it slipped out of my hand a quick thought shot through my mind - should have bought the insurance. As pieces went everywhere I reached down to asses the damage.
The pieces were just the battery cover and batter. Since the keyboard was not out during the drop, I was surprised to see the battery cover come off, since I thought it impossible without extending the keyboard.
After putting everything back together and turning on the phone, all was well. Not a scratch or scuff to be found.
Whew!
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Yeah I've dropped mine twice now (!) which are the only two times I've dropped any of my phones in the last 10 years. I think the aluminum battery cover makes the phone very slippery to hold relative to other phones, and opening the keyboard requires enough force that sometimes the little bugger just gets away from me. I'm contemplating a skinomi carbon-fiber body skin to give it more grip, but I hate doing things like that. My only concession has been a screen protector (which I also never use). I think I just need to be more careful.
-R
That's how I saw my battery for the first time. Dropped it the second day I had it. Decided not to get a screen protector because the screen looked too nice. Face down and not a nick or scratch. Agree, this is one tough phone.
Dont know how you guys avoid scratches on your screens. My screen protector is covered in them! But then again... its probably is more sensitive than the screen.
To access the battery, we need to slide out the keyboard so the part that holds the screen up, uncovers the notch to take the cover off. Obviously it doesnt actually hold the cover in place. Must be purely an aesthetics thing.
Nice to hear they can take a beating though
Just had my close call today a little while ago; it was a two foot drop from my hand in a chair to the tile ground with it landing right on its face. Still a bit paranoid but looks like everything is fine on the exterior, but the cover flew off too. Right now trying to do everything I can think of to make sure the internal components are still in working order, particularly the mic and speakers.
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Just had my close call today a little while ago; it was a two foot drop from my hand in a chair to the tile ground with it landing right on its face. Still a bit paranoid but looks like everything is fine on the exterior, but the cover flew off too. Right now trying to do everything I can think of to make sure the internal components are still in working order, particularly the mic and speakers.
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Frankly, the most fragile part (as far as impact damage goes) is the screen/casing. So if cosmetically it looks fine, it probably is fine.
Didnt you just see it going in slow motion the whole time? lol Glad you faired well.
I tossed mine off the desk (accidentally -- swept my arm while talking, caught the cord, phone came unplugged)
The slow-mo with the long too-deep-to-be me "nooooooooooooo" followed by the beautifully artsy smash into the wall. Battery cover and battery left their normal homes.
Reassembled, everything's fine. It's like the first scratch in a new car. Sucks, but it'll happen.
I hate to nit-pick and I'm generally happy and relieved that I simply even got a unit, but both my left and right side are now creaky.. even the bottom is starting a bit.
I still have a week left, what should I do? Should I just return the unit and wait it out? Do anything think theres a way to stop the creaking?
Mine does the same, I am going to just accept it as others have this issue as well.
define creak? Mine has some flex in the back but no actual sound accompanying it.
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Mine does the same, I am going to just accept it as others have this issue as well.
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Ya I've read that it's fairly widespread, but does yours creak on 3/4 of the sides? or just the left side?
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define creak? Mine has some flex in the back but no actual sound accompanying it.
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definitely with sound. it clicks
Nope none of that.
PS: I've had it for 2 weeks now.
Mine creaks on the 3/4 of the right side. That is if i press it/hold it hard enough. Usually I'm cradling it with both hands or having it attached to the keyboard dock, so it's not that big of a deal for me.
And we wonder how they got this tablet down to $400 Mine creaks on the upper right if I apply a little pressure (like if I hold it with one hand on that side), but it's not like it creaks enough to drive me crazy, or even drive me irritated. You sacrifice build quality for hitting that magic $400 price point, it is what it is.
If there is flex, then there means that there is empty space. If that's the case, why isn't the TF slimmer?!
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And we wonder how they got this tablet down to $400 Mine creaks on the upper right if I apply a little pressure (like if I hold it with one hand on that side), but it's not like it creaks enough to drive me crazy, or even drive me irritated. You sacrifice build quality for hitting that magic $400 price point, it is what it is.
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I'm sorry but that's simply false
My European HTC hero back cover creaked from the start and that thing has only seen torment for the past 2 years (7 ft. plus drops multiple times a week, don't ask ;_; ) and it's in full working order, undamaged. Creaky plastic does not signify build quality.
Mine creaks on the right hand side but I generally hold it with my left hand on the back of the unit or rest it on my stomach when in portrait mode, feet up sitting in my La-Z-Boy.
Had mine for 2 weeks and don't have any creaking in any orientation.
I have quite a bit of creaking as well, along with a gap on the left-hand side of the screen. I'll probably swap mine out before my 30 days is up with Amazon, and when stock is more available. I'm hoping that's how it works out, anyways.
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I'm sorry but that's simply false
My European HTC hero back cover creaked from the start and that thing has only seen torment for the past 2 years (7 ft. plus drops multiple times a week, don't ask ;_; ) and it's in full working order, undamaged. Creaky plastic does not signify build quality.
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And neither does light bleed, gaps, dust under the screen, or sharp edges, I guess Look I'm fine with some cut corners, it's what you have to expect when something seems to affordable too be true. I'm not saying that the Transformer is going to fall apart in your hands, but creaky build quality is usually a result of cutting corners.
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And neither does light bleed, gaps, dust under the screen, or sharp edges, I guess Look I'm fine with some cut corners, it's what you have to expect when something seems to affordable too be true. I'm not saying that the Transformer is going to fall apart in your hands, but creaky build quality is usually a result of cutting corners.
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Not everyone has lightbleed and even the iPad and iPad 2 had lightbleed issues, I doubt those were because of shoddy manufacturing.
Also the sharp edges are part of the design, I can't really relate to anyone complaining about the "sharp"corners since the angular bezel edge design really isn't that bad on your finger tips or hands.
Also my HTC hero has a dust spec under the screen, just because something isn't perfect in design doesn't mean it's shoddy manufacturing or cutting corners in manufacturing, it's just a flawed design.
Not sharp corners, sharp edges -- run your fingers along the back edge of the tablet and you'll see. Look, I don't care much about the build quality, it's satisfactory to me, but some of you are in denial
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Not sharp corners, sharp edges -- run your fingers along the back edge of the tablet and you'll see. Look, I don't care much about the build quality, it's satisfactory to me, but some of you are in denial
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Not denial, my point is it's flawed design, not build quality.
Sharp edges on plastic, enough to cut if you were the careless type, are not bad design, it's cutting corners, which is build quality. Exposed plastic like that would normally be dulled so as to not be so sharp, but leaving it raw like that is a cost-cutting move, and is a build-quality issue. So is light bleeding, screen dust, and creaking.
I can't poll every Transformer owner to see if they all have the same build quality issues, but I bet if a good number ran their fingers along the back edge to check for sharpness, applied pressure to the case to hear it creak, or checked for light bleeding, they'd have one, if not all three. Things to be expected during a first run, and definitely expected when you've undercut the competition by so much. My position is if those things bother you, return it. I'm keeping mine.
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Sharp edges on plastic, enough to cut if you were the careless type, are not bad design, it's cutting corners, which is build quality. Exposed plastic like that would normally be dulled so as to not be so sharp, but leaving it raw like that is a cost-cutting move, and is a build-quality issue. So is light bleeding, screen dust, and creaking.
I can't poll every Transformer owner to see if they all have the same build quality issues, but I bet if a good number ran their fingers along the back edge to check for sharpness, applied pressure to the case to hear it creak, or checked for light bleeding, they'd have one, if not all three. Things to be expected during a first run, and definitely expected when you've undercut the competition by so much. My position is if those things bother you, return it. I'm keeping mine.
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First off light bleeding is a fault of the LCD manufacturer. LG was at fault for the bad iPad 2 screens. Apple used both LG and Samsung, and only the LG ones had the issue quite regularly.
I don't have any plastic edges on mine. My plastic backing definitely fits inside the aluminum frame. I cannot feel any sharp edges along my back, and I'm trying to be nit picky for the sake of your argument. I have a slight creek in one spot on the right edge, that is the only build quality issue I have of all, and it is slight. My suggestion if you see separation or your plastic back is not inside the frame RMA it to Asus, or return to the store. It could be as simple of a fix of them taking it apart and putting it back together with more care.
I think the point is being missed here. I'm fine with the sharp edge -- hell, mine stays in the Asus case, I don't even feel it. The argument was whether or not build quality was compromised (and that includes parts from companies other than Asus, cost is cost), and I think it was. If you told me I could get a $400 tablet with an IPS screen, and I'd have to deal with a sharp edge and some creaking (I don't notice light bleed and I don't want to look for it because I don't want to notice it! ), I'd jump all over it. No need to get defensive, in the end it's just a piece of consumer electronics.
Part 1
I got it for around 22 dollars with free shipping from china on ebay. There are quite a few listings for it.
First, it's obviously a fake. My wife has a real lifeproof iphone5 (yes I live in a split household). Her lifeproof has some rubbery aspects to it, this one's rubber is a bit more stiff and isn't as pliantthis one is made all of plastic. The clip at the bottom is slightly loose, but it has a similiar rubber in-lay to keep the phone dry.
Up close of the front. Came with a sticker over the prior galaxy s3 (lol). You can see I pealed it off to see what it said.
Back
The front of the box opens up with a flap. The middle image is what's on the top flap. The bottom is the main box - a window into what the case looks like.
Opening it, we have the case and this card is behind the case itself. There is a waterproof earplug adapter of course.
Inside of the top aspect of the case.
Everything inside of the box. A small manual.
Top and bottom parts put together.
Placing it in water and putting a couple double shots on top to keep the case down.
After taking off the double shots, it rose to the top, no visible water inside of it.
I found no water after 6-7 minutes minutes of submersion with 2 double shots on top
Fake lifeproof next to Seidio Obex
Part 2 I will report sound quality after using it for a couple days.
Stay tuned! Ask any questions I'll try to answer them for you.
Took about 3 weeks to get it.
As far as the two cases go, I prefer the obex at this point. It's rubber is softer and has a better feel. Although I complain about Obex's easily damaged case and protector, I think this one is no better. I just shouldn't put expensive cases with my keys ever. Although I never had a problem with keys + defender or keys + tpu case / cheap screen protector - so go figure.
For 22 dollars and waiting 3 weeks, it's cheap.
Since I use my phones for work and work tends to get a bit messy, I need splash protection and shock protection, running up stairs, bodily fluids splashing etc. Also the occasional cell phone drop into the urinal or toliet has occured.
My phones are warrantied through verizon, so I don't mind taking the chance with this case. Hopefully, I don't loose a device to water damage lol.
How is the audio quality? The obex i had on my s3 produced horrible audio quality.
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How is the audio quality? The obex i had on my s3 produced horrible audio quality.
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Sound is okay, minimally diminished but it's better than the obex. Don't get the vibration type sound interference.
The distance from the screen to the screen protector feels about 2-3 mm's. Doesn't register all touches easily and well, it's a bit further than my wife's life proof.
Cut outs are spot on.
The back of the case has a bit of design. After feeling the case more, there isn't really any rubberized parts. it's just more plastic. Compared to my wife's definitely cheaply made - as to be expected.
Unlike the seidio obex where they use a rubber overlay on the home button - the home button on this lifeproof knockoff is just covered by the screen protector albeit it's black with a circle around it. My wife's lifeproof iphone5 is similiar but has an indention to the home button.
The volume rocker and power buttons are slightly off and take about 2-3 hard pushes to get a response.
Haven't had a chance to take a call with it yet. Will test it later today.
Had a couple phone calls. People can hear me without a problem. Haven't noticed any issues with it.
So in regards to the positives:
1) Sound seems to be basically intact, both microphone/speaker.
2) Waterproof - Case does appear to have the same or similiar waterproofing sponge-like material for the seals.
3) Cheap
Negatives:
1) Cheaply made (lol) compared to the real life proof, no rubber aspects to the external case.
2) Clip at bottom doesn't clip in as tightly as I would want it to, might just be this case though.
3) The Volume rocker is in the right place but needs a harder than usual push on it to work, so you'll push it 2 to 3 times to get it to respond.
4) The Power button is situated feels 0.5 mm to 1 mm below where it should be and also requires harder pushing.
5) Screen protector doesn't come in contact with the phone directly, there is about 2 mm gap, most of the touches register, about 95 percent or so. If you touch something at the edge, it's more lightly it won't register.
What I didn't test:
1) the water test for 1 hour, I did it for about 6-7 minutes like the obex recommended.
2) any drops, the plastic seems a bit brittle and stuff, I imagine that the case would probably crack or break, possibly transmit shock forces directly to the phone - doubt it's 6 feet drop rated as a knock off.
Compared to the Obex:
Prefer the obex, feels better in hand, better screen response. Sound is a little off on the obex, but I do think it offers better protection from a real fall and serious submersions.
Recommendation:
I would recommend this case for anyone who's on a budget <25 dollars and wants something that's going to be basically waterproof.
Otherwise, go find something else - bfree? Obex? Or wait for the real lifeproof to come out.
Here's a few ebay links:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Waterproof-...Cell_Phone_PDA_Cases&var=&hash=item4d10397178
US location
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Waterproof-...Cell_Phone_PDA_Cases&var=&hash=item3cd5113bdb
just got mine from newegg for 20 bucks. idk why i got the green one but i did lol. anyway its water proof. andddddd i can hear ppl fine on it and ppl can hear me fine and its VERY light. i had a trident kraken on it before which was very heavy but protected it like a beast.
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just got mine from newegg for 20 bucks. idk why i got the green one but i did lol. anyway its water proof. andddddd i can hear ppl fine on it and ppl can hear me fine and its VERY light. i had a trident kraken on it before which was very heavy but protected it like a beast.
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Link please? 3 weeks sounds like a long wait I want my case now! Torn between Lifeproof obex and now love mei which I found isn't waterproof smh...
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA1PU0ZX3701 it came in less then 2 days from cali to ny