[discussion] android M developer preview to our nexus 5... - Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Does Google will push android M developer preview to our nexus 5 or just like the last year... They push android L to nexus 5 with no nexus 4 preview...
I wish they don't do that because I really want to test it the 1st line of people...

A totally inadequate thread

I'm not really even sure what the point of the dev previews were. I thought it was put out there for testing and data collection purposes to make the Lollipop launch as successful as possible. Somehow though not only was it still bug ridden but the device it was tested for probably had the most issues right out of the gate. It felt like instead of going from a Beta to a Stable the Nexus 5 users went from an Alpha to a Beta.

Don't want to be a guinea pig? Don't flash previews.

beekay201 said:
Don't want to be a guinea pig? Don't flash previews.
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Android=new amazing things every update...
I don't care if the M gave some bugs...
I can live with it ?

Just buy a Nexus 6 to get the latest

dicecuber said:
Just buy a Nexus 6 to get the latest
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That's a point...
I don't like so huge screens in phones ?

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[Q] With ICS OTA will we loose everything?

Hi all,
After ICS OTA upgrade, will I have to reconfigure and reinstall all the apps?? Also, what about the media data?
TiA
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It dosen't matter. Just backup with Titanium Backup and restore when it comes.
ElMango said:
Hi all,
After ICS OTA upgrade, will I have to reconfigure and reinstall all the apps?? Also, what about the media data?
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You'll want to wait for a rooted version of the OTA anyway. It'll be out hours after the source is released. Then you can just use your favorite backup app to get your stuff back.
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Do we know approximately when the ICS is set to come. Since I got the 3D I haven't really kept up with Nexus news but I'm looking to come back to the flagship.
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Samfirmware stated on twitter two days ago that it was close.
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Don't see why it would take Google sooooo long to release the OTA ? I mean, The community has had it built for Weeks. I guess I'm just a bit too impatient and don't really feel like rooting my phone.
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I'm the same. I've rooted by all the ICS ROM's still have bugs. I'd already have a Galaxy Nexus if they did not delay and delay then have volume bugs! If they released all the drivers from day one, we'd have a million decent custom ROM's...
the nexus s is supposed to be an android flagship phone. Its built with vanilla android so its the first and easiest phone to update, yet for weeks now people are walking around with 4.0 on their galaxy nexus and nexus s users are still left in the dark. say what you will about apple but when an update comes out all compatible devices receive the update that day. obviously im not saying every android should get this update in a timely manner, but a phone by google made for this situation certainly should
I have a question when they said that nexus s should receive ice cream sandwich within " weeks" after galaxy nexus release. Do you guys think the clock has started or are did they mean release in the united states?
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fightingroost12 said:
the nexus s is supposed to be an android flagship phone. Its built with vanilla android so its the first and easiest phone to update, yet for weeks now people are walking around with 4.0 on their galaxy nexus and nexus s users are still left in the dark.
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Yeah, you may want to recall how us Nexus One users were treated with Gingerbread when the NS came out. ICS was probably developed primarily on the GN, so NS development slips on the totem pole. At least you are getting official ICS...
Rod3 said:
Yeah, you may want to recall how us Nexus One users were treated with Gingerbread when the NS came out. ICS was probably developed primarily on the GN, so NS development slips on the totem pole. At least you are getting official ICS...
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yea your right, im very happy just to be on gingerbread (anyone with an x10 or intercept will agree with me) and i wouldnt even mind waiting for the update, its mostly the lack of any information from google thats killing me
hamiltus said:
Don't see why it would take Google sooooo long to release the OTA ? I mean, The community has had it built for Weeks. I guess I'm just a bit too impatient and don't really feel like rooting my phone.
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Because unlike the Community, Google has certain standards it must meet before releasing an OTA. I mean no respect towards the community but no company could ever release partially working builds.
fightingroost12 said:
the nexus s is supposed to be an android flagship phone. Its built with vanilla android so its the first and easiest phone to update, yet for weeks now people are walking around with 4.0 on their galaxy nexus and nexus s users are still left in the dark. say what you will about apple but when an update comes out all compatible devices receive the update that day. obviously im not saying every android should get this update in a timely manner, but a phone by google made for this situation certainly should
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The Nexus S will get a ICS update LOOONNNGGGG before any other phone will and ICS was built for the Galaxy Nexus so THAT was the first and easiest to develop for. The Nexus S is next.
I don't really care the Nexus S gets the update before other phones, I just want it asap.
I'd gladly have every compatible phone receive ICS tomorrow as long as I got it on my NS.
And, much as I don't like it; the Apple comparisons are true. Apple do release new OS available for everyone to download on the same day their new device featuring that OS is launched.
People say that it would be ridiculous to expect updates until the GN has been out a while, but why? Google should have made the next update available on the day they announced ICS.
Corvidd said:
I don't really care the Nexus S gets the update before other phones, I just want it asap.
I'd gladly have every compatible phone receive ICS tomorrow as long as I got it on my NS.
And, much as I don't like it; the Apple comparisons are true. Apple do release new OS available for everyone to download on the same day their new device featuring that OS is launched.
People say that it would be ridiculous to expect updates until the GN has been out a while, but why? Google should have made the next update available on the day they announced ICS.
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Apple also restricts new features to older phones to encourage people to upgrade. Just look at Siri as a fine example, it's *only* available on the 4s even though it's been proven that it will run fine on the 4. Similar constraints can be found with each model upgrade.
When ICS comes out for the nexus S, it will be fully functional with no neutering of any feature. so how does one "encourage" people to upgrade? you delay the update to crank in some early sales.
Matridom said:
Apple also restricts new features to older phones to encourage people to upgrade. Just look at Siri as a fine example, it's *only* available on the 4s even though it's been proven that it will run fine on the 4. Similar constraints can be found with each model upgrade.
When ICS comes out for the nexus S, it will be fully functional with no neutering of any feature. so how does one "encourage" people to upgrade? you delay the update to crank in some early sales.
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all because thats true it doesnt make the other point invalid. When a new iphone comes out, all iphones (and ipod touches mind you) get the update that day.
fightingroost12 said:
all because thats true it doesnt make the other point invalid. When a new iphone comes out, all iphones (and ipod touches mind you) get the update that day.
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Does the iPod second generation have IOS 5? What about the original iPhone?
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Matridom said:
Does the iPod second generation have IOS 5? What about the original iPhone?
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is the nexus one getting ICS? how about the G1?
fightingroost12 said:
is the nexus one getting ICS? how about the G1?
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Point, but this is due to hardware limitations. Siri for example will run fine on older devices. also if I know the Xda, there will be a ROM available
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Matridom said:
Point, but this is due to hardware limitations. Siri for example will run fine on older devices. also if I know the Xda, there will be a ROM available
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of course there will be, there already are roms available now for the g1. the original iphone obviously has the same problem the g1 has, hardware limitations. When 4.0 came out the iphone 3gs was laggy and almost unusable until apple released a second update to fix the mess. But were losing sight of the point, when an OS is released by apple all phones (fine all compatible phones) get it that day. Sure it doesnt have all the features as the newest iphones, and by not all the features i mean ONE feature as in siri, but they get the update at least. What have we received since the galaxy nexus was released? And i honestly dont even care enough to keep talking about it, but when ever people hear about apple they always have to but in with "YEA BUT APPLE SUCKS CAUSE ____" which isnt the point, i was making a comparison.
like i said before all because one statement is true, it doesnt make the other statement false.

Features (a question)

My friend and I was having a discussion on the Nexus 5 against other smart phones in the current market, and we got on to the discussion on to its features that it has and what other phones don't. I know the nexus 5 was designed with Google in mind but as my friend mentioned I believe you can link your Google up with other phones as well? Or is this Nexus 5 feature? Or are do some features exist on the Nexus 5 that are not available on any other smart phone (android related) through a download?
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LordChristoff said:
My friend and I was having a discussion on the Nexus 5 against other smart phones in the current market, and we got on to the discussion on to its features that it has and what other phones don't. I know the nexus 5 was designed with Google in mind but as my friend mentioned I believe you can link your Google up with other phones as well? Or is this Nexus 5 feature? Or are do some features exist on the Nexus 5 that are not available on any other smart phone (android related) through a download?
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LordChristoff
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the nexus 5 isnt a phone made for special features to try and sell it. its more or less a developers phone. i guess it has 2 "features" that other android phones dont have. first is hdr+(but other phones have hdr, hdr+ is just better). and the second one is the important one, one that all nexus phones come with that others do not, fastboot oem unlock.
simms22 said:
the nexus 5 isnt a phone made for special features to try and sell it. its more or less a developers phone. i guess it has 2 "features" that other android phones dont have. first is hdr+(but other phones have hdr, hdr+ is just better). and the second one is the important one, one that all nexus phones come with that others do not, fastboot oem unlock.
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I suppose we can also say Photsphere (although there are other versions of this) and GEL (Even though GPE devices get this).
You also get Android system updates instantly.
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You also get Android system updates instantly.
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Yes and no. Not necessarily for root users. We do see commits fixing bugs in AOSP before a Nexus gets a release. So sure, we get the quickest full releases of official updates but some stuff, aosp users on all devices will get before standard n5 users.
I didn't realise this until recently. There was a bug with the window manager on stock where floating windows would not float over other windows. I moved to aosp to get the fix as i was sick of waiting.
Nexus mainly only gets full version releases 4.4.1, 4.4.2 etc but AOSP gets commits that don't increment the version. One benefit of OEM can be as they release fixes for their crappy frameworks, they can also pull fixes from google whilst we're waiting for a new version
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so, it sounds like, most of these "features" of the nexus 5 are more like the benefits of owning a nexus 5
simms22 said:
so, it sounds like, most of these "features" of the nexus 5 are more like the benefits of owning a nexus 5
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Pretty much i guess
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[silly question] Will nexus 5 get the final Android L?

This might be silly question, but i have been wondering if we will get the final Android L in fall. I am very new to this how this gets updated and so on, and i wondered if we will be left with only the testing version of Android L or we will get the final thing too in fall as official update to nexus 5?
nikssims said:
This might be silly question, but i have been wondering if we will get the final Android L in fall. I am very new to this how this gets updated and so on, and i wondered if we will be left with only the testing version of Android L or we will get the final thing too in fall as official update to nexus 5?
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Nexus devices usually get 18 months of updates after release, so yes.
Thread belongs in Q&A, not General.
The Nexus 5 will get the L update. Even ones after that
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No doubt! Wouldn't make much sense giving us a preview and then not giving us an update
Never fear...it will be here!
Of course, that's what the Nexus line of phones were meant for. That's what this OS was built and tested on by google engineers.
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The last major update for the Nexus 5 will most probably be the L release. Minor updates will happen like we had 4.4.1, 4.4.2 and such.
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No doubt! Wouldn't make much sense giving us a preview and then not giving us an update
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Hey that happened to me with ICS and my Xperia Play...
Just saying...
The Nexus 4 is still receiving updates isn't it? Question answered.
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Koragg618 said:
The last major update for the Nexus 5 will most probably be the L release. Minor updates will happen like we had 4.4.1, 4.4.2 and such.
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No, if L is 5.0, the Nexus 5 will at least get 5.1 as well. It won't be a question until 5.2, but the Nexus 5 will probably get that as well. Heck, we're pretty sure even the Nexus 4 will get L, and the N5 will get updates at least a year longer than the N4.
I see the same question by many Nexus 4 users. "Will we get an official Android L?"
I also think we (Nexus 5) will get an official Android 5.0 too.:silly:
And you really needed to open a new thread for that instead of asking in one of the countless L threads ? Hope the mods will clean up here soon.
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And you really needed to open a new thread for that instead of asking in one of the countless L threads ? Hope the mods will clean up here soon.
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I'm seriously running out of popcorn reading the craziness from this L build.
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nikssims said:
This might be silly question, but i have been wondering if we will get the final Android L in fall. I am very new to this how this gets updated and so on, and i wondered if we will be left with only the testing version of Android L or we will get the final thing too in fall as official update to nexus 5?
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No, Nexus 5 would burst in Flames as soon as it's get the updates... i wont suggest doing that....
I think this thread has reached it's EOL. Your question has been answered in this thread and others multiple times.
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Android Lollipop Release Date

Android Lollipop coming on the 17th of this month according to the Android Developers Google+ page. Possible release of the Nexus 6 and 9 also. 2 DAYS!!!!
Well, Nexus 6 and Nexus 9 devices have to came with Android Lollipop , I wonder when Nexus 5 line of device is going to get updates ?
It won't by then, I was talking about the SDK. I am not quite sure, I've heared the 1st of November and 3rd of November but I gotta hope not.
Well i cannot wait till it gets ported to the S3 mini haha By the way, do you think the rom size would increase/decrease?
dolphinman310 said:
Well i cannot wait till it gets ported to the S3 mini haha By the way, do you think the rom size would increase/decrease?
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A definite increase with how many new features etc

What are the odds we get a 6.0 ROM soon?

Since it's being released in a couple days, is it possible we will get the source code to build for OnePlus?
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it is possible, but i don't know what will happened
From the official sources, no clue. From ROM devs, I'd say give it a month once source code drops. Cyanogenmod already built for this device, I mean look at the back of the phone, so I'm sure they will support us for at least 2 more android versions. My very first android phone the Droid Incredible came out in 2010 and for rom support from devs all the way up to 4.4.4, so I'd say pretty dang high from rom devs. Helps also that we have a simple bootloader unlock, which makes devs even more inclined to work on the device. Based on my past device experience, we'll get at least 3 more major versions, 6.0 included, maybe more. By then, your battery will be useless, and you'll have moved on, which is awesome.
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From the official sources, no clue. From ROM devs, I'd say give it a month once source code drops. Cyanogenmod already built for this device, I mean look at the back of the phone, so I'm sure they will support us for at least 2 more android versions. My very first android phone the Droid Incredible came out in 2010 and for rom support from devs all the way up to 4.4.4, so I'd say pretty dang high from rom devs. Helps also that we have a simple bootloader unlock, which makes devs even more inclined to work on the device. Based on my past device experience, we'll get at least 3 more major versions, 6.0 included, maybe more. By then, your battery will be useless, and you'll have moved on, which is awesome.
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CM are only obligated to support this device until April next year, so Marshmallow will be the last official version we get. They're contracted for 24 months from the time of release and they'll drop this device like a hot potato the first chance they get.
Heisenberg said:
CM are only obligated to support this device until April next year, so Marshmallow will be the last official version we get. They're contracted for 24 months from the time of release and they'll drop this device like a hot potato the first chance they get.
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While I'd like to agree with you, that's in regards to business, we will see 6.0 for that reason alone. I was more referring to the fact that we still see updates on the nexus 4 up to 5.1 and the fact that open popular devices seem to get much longer support. Wasn't trying to disagree with you at all in that respect. I'm not that likes to hang onto their old devices, or sell them to friends, so I have seen how amazing that support can be even for older devices. My TF101 tablet is still rocking, and running 5.1.1 it's smoother than it's ever been. Don't think that'll see 6.0, but I didn't expect it to make it to 5.0. It all comes down to "We'll see how long it gets supported, but don't demand anything past 6.0" even though historically, we should get 3 more major versions if it follows most devices paths when it comes to rom support. That boing said, I'll be flashing 6.0 as soon as we get a rom that can multiboot!
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While I'd like to agree with you, that's in regards to business, we will see 6.0 for that reason alone. I was more referring to the fact that we still see updates on the nexus 4 up to 5.1 and the fact that open popular devices seem to get much longer support. Wasn't trying to disagree with you at all in that respect. I'm not that likes to hang onto their old devices, or sell them to friends, so I have seen how amazing that support can be even for older devices. My TF101 tablet is still rocking, and running 5.1.1 it's smoother than it's ever been. Don't think that'll see 6.0, but I didn't expect it to make it to 5.0. It all comes down to "We'll see how long it gets supported, but don't demand anything past 6.0" even though historically, we should get 3 more major versions if it follows most devices paths when it comes to rom support. That boing said, I'll be flashing 6.0 as soon as we get a rom that can multiboot!
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There's no doubt we'll see the next version after Marshmallow on this phone, but I can guarantee you it won't be in the form of official updates via Cyanogen Inc, it'll be in the form of community developed ROMs via CyanogenMod. If you meant CyanogenMod and not Cyanogen Inc then I misunderstood you.
I just meant Roms in general
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Rom developers are really fast, i would say 1 week after we get the source there will be a alpha version. Cyanogen13 will take at least months.
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Rom developers are really fast, i would say 1 week after we get the source there will be a alpha version. Cyanogen13 will take at least months.
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Sounds good to me! We have great devs here! Hopefully they don't leave for the Nexus phones, they really aren't worth the $ in my opinion. 808 and 810 have too many problems. I got the Moto X Pure and had that for 2 weeks and even the 808 had terrible heating issues. This years chipsets by Qualcomm are just terrible. Not to mention even now, 3 weeks in they have no dev support and Motorola (now Lenovo) is very shady company.
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Sounds good to me! We have great devs here! Hopefully they don't leave for the Nexus phones, they really aren't worth the $ in my opinion. 808 and 810 have too many problems. I got the Moto X Pure and had that for 2 weeks and even the 808 had terrible heating issues. This years chipsets by Qualcomm are just terrible. Not to mention even now, 3 weeks in they have no dev support and Motorola (now Lenovo) is very shady company.
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What makes Moto shady? Nexus 6, first non nexus company to update their phones to lollipop, budget friendly phones...
And even if they were shady, I think OnePlus still takes the #1 spot in that category lol
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What makes Moto shady? Nexus 6, first non nexus company to update their phones to lollipop, budget friendly phones...
And even if they were shady, I think OnePlus still takes the #1 spot in that category lol
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Motorola says they aren't going to update the Moto E although they advertised that they would. Also not updating Moto X 2014 AT&T and Verizon version.
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Motorola says they aren't going to update the Moto E although they advertised that they would. Also not updating Moto X 2014 AT&T and Verizon version.
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Moto E: cheap budget phone that I think people only bought as a placeholder when they broke a phone or something else happened, it's not a flagship. nobody bought it to use for 2+ years and I don't think it was intended as such.
Moto x: did you see that the pure is getting updated? That means it was the carriers decision, not Motorola's. Also, it's easy to convert the att/Verizon version to the pure version and then you'll get the update fine.
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What makes Moto shady? Nexus 6, first non nexus company to update their phones to lollipop, budget friendly phones...
And even if they were shady, I think OnePlus still takes the #1 spot in that category lol
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As soon as Lenovo brought out Pure they let go about 500 Motorola employees, many who were in the dev department... They are giving people hard times about returns saying it will take 6-8 weeks to get their money back on an overnight return label. The pure QC is piss poor, if you go to their forums, their most popular thread is about returning the phone... This clearly isn't the same Motorola we used to love. I'm not big on OnePlus either, I only came back here, because at least I know my OnePlus works, I'll never buy from them again though, that's for sure.
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Here they don't say we will get COS13 but only Oxygen / Hydrogen :
http://www.gadgetlite.in/2015/10/here-is-list-of-devices-getting-android.html#.VhNtuWuBS6F
But since the communication of Cyanogen is not really a "thing" I won't settle for this news
Source has dropped, so we might see devs starting to build soon
https://android.googlesource.com/platform/build/+/marshmallow-release
Anybody already found the radio online time fix commits? or didnt they even fix it?
Well i think it will be possible to get a bootable AOSP 6.0 Rom , cause we already had a booting 5.1.51 Rom!
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Anybody already found the radio online time fix commits? or didnt they even fix it?
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the radio issues are driving me nuts, no matter what modem i use i still run into issues.
Heisenberg said:
CM are only obligated to support this device until April next year, so Marshmallow will be the last official version we get. They're contracted for 24 months from the time of release and they'll drop this device like a hot potato the first chance they get.
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Agreed. Look at when we finally got 5.1.1...SMH
BTW, pretty sure you meant Cyanogen Inc, not CM
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Since it's being released in a couple days, is it possible we will get the source code to build for OnePlus?
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The probability is high that we'll get a taste (not likely daily driver level sweet mind you) of Marshmallow by tomorrow:
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