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Before I start, I'd just like to say that this is just my personal rant and even though some of you may not agree, that's why I'm having this as a discussion thread.
Let's get this started then.
All I see going around XDA are people comparing their own devices to the latest Nexus device and saying 'Should I switch to the Nexus?' or a load of people rimming off the Nexus' as if they're the best thing since sliced bread.
Some of you may wonder why this bothers me. I'll tell you.
Just because a device has the Nexus brand name, it doesn't make it any better than any other phone of equal quality. A hell of a lot of people will see a device is a Nexus and immediately want to get it.
Why would you want to?
If you ask one of those people why a Nexus is so great, they'll say one of three things or a mix of the three.
The reasons are;
1) All Nexus devices look great and have great build quality.
2) It's guaranteed to have great developer support.
3) It's officially supported by Google so it will get the latest Android updates before any other device.
Now, let me tell you my response to each of those points...
1) Most Nexus devices don't look great. The only one which looks good, in my opinion, is the Nexus 7. Apart from that, none of them look any better than other devices around.
2) Yes it will have great developer support, but so do a lot of phones which are already around and have been for ages now. An example of that is the Galaxy S2. It's been around for over a year and a half and it still has more development than most phones do
3) Again, this is true. But they're not the only devices to get the Android updates quickly. This site has a smattering of great developers so it will never take long for other devices to get the latest versions, and you haven't even needed to buy a new phone just to get the latest and greatest.
So with that being said, why buy the latest Nexus device when I'm reality it isn't any better than devices which are already available?
I know some of you may be Nexus fanboys and not agree with anything I've said, but I'm hoping that some of you agree just so I know that I'm not the only person who isn't being hypnotized by the word 'Nexus'.
As I said at the top of this post, I'm leaving this as a discussion so if anyone would like to add anything extra or disagree with what I've said, then you can feel free to do so.
But whatever you do, DON'T TROLL OR FLAME OTHER PEOPLE SIMPLY BECAUSE YOU DON'T AGREE WITH THEM!
Agree with all of the above! I'm getting it to replace my GNex.. it's a better device and I don't need two Nexuses
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True most other phones have similar specs (lol dnt want a nexus 4 anymore)
any suggestions??
My first real Android experience has been with the Nexus S 4G about one year ago today actually... i replaced my iPhone 3GS...
Being my first android experience, i didn't know what android offered until i physically had the phone in my hands... i had it for two weeks before deciding to root it and try out the latest Android at the time, 4.0 ICS... fell in LOVE with my phone after that... i only realized other Carriers/manufacturers added their own version of android after i got used to ICS and started looking for other devices to upgrade to... once i became educated with android, i realized that i got extremely lucky with my first android experience/purchase... because not only were other devices not officially updated to ICS, but the rollout of ICS took a very long time to even start getting stable ports/builds from developers... the skin thing also turned me off from wanting another device...
Simply put, even tho my phone is rooted, i can only vouch for devices that come with pure Google experience as that was my first real android experience... someone will say that you can always root your device and update as developers push out there latest ROMs for other devices... but i can't promote that to my friends/family that don't even know what rooting means (like myself before)...
i strongly promote the Galaxy S3... in fact just yesterday someone posted on Facebook asking if they should get the gs3 or iPhone 5... i was surprised to see out of around 20 replies, only 2 said to get the iPhone 5... i said gs3 but i also mentioned the Nexus 4 and its amazing price point... she looked it up but liked the gs3 look more... today she bought the gs3 because of that and because the N4 isn't available yet...
Before, if anyone asked me what phone to get, I immediately said the gs3 hands down... now my response is Nexus 4... i prefer the sleek/clean look and curved glass of the Nexus devices... the gs3 would be great IMO if it didn't have hard keys like back/home/menu at the bottom... so with that, the N4 looks better to me than any other device out there... i also loved the look of the Gnex... sadly, that one lacked in specs for me to upgrade my ns4g... and sadly the N4 lacks CDMA/LTE support for me to upgrade... now I'm kinda stuck as to what now?
Hope that was a civil response you want in this thread
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FangV said:
True most other phones have similar specs (lol dnt want a nexus 4 anymore)
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Ask in this thread mate
the1dynasty said:
My first real Android experience has been with the Nexus S 4G about one year ago today actually... i replaced my iPhone 3GS...
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I can understand why some would want the pure Google experience, but there are ROMs which provide an extremely close experience anyway. Plus with the added features they have, it seems like the logical choice to go for custom ROMs, at least in my opinion.
If you use the thread linked above, you'll be able to ask there about what device to get next if you're not too sure.
And yeah, that response was all good
Galaxy S3 was a lot slower and laggy compared to my gnex. Went back to my gnex after a week. I buy the nexus for the pure android. Its smoother, cleaner, quicker and just better.
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Galaxy S3 was a lot slower and laggy compared to my gnex. Went back to my gnex after a week. I buy the nexus for the pure android. Its smoother, cleaner, quicker and just better.
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Yeah.. noticed the same when comparing JB on my S3 to JB on my Nexus..
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Ask in this thread mate
I can understand why some would want the pure Google experience, but there are ROMs which provide an extremely close experience anyway. Plus with the added features they have, it seems like the logical choice to go for custom ROMs, at least in my opinion.
If you use the thread linked above, you'll be able to ask there about what device to get next if you're not too sure.
And yeah, that response was all good
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I know custom ROMs are available for other devices... but the only other phone on my radar was the gs3 but I hated those buttons... i enabled the on screen buttons on my ns4g and my kernel let's me dim the light on the capacitive buttons so its like they're not even there anymore lol... i lost some screen real estate but no biggie really...
I was really looking forward to the next nexus and was really disappointed to hear no CDMA/LTE support being that i have unlimited with Sprint now and I'm gonna be switching to a special unlimited plan with Verizon in a month or so... i really wanted to continue using nexus devices but looks like I'll have to go elsewhere for now... luckily, I'm content with this ns4g being that i got it tuned nearly perfect for good performance... the SD read is still a bit slow tho... i can survive until something wets my appetite again like the N4... or I'll just get the SGS4 if nothing comes out before then...
Btw, I'm on 4.1.2 right now running most apps from 4.2 system dump... so this 2year old phone can even take photosphere, and quite well i might add... no rush to upgrade devices... if rather put that money to getting the Nexus 10
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Another reason is that all of the hardwares of Nexus devices are guaranteed to be open, unlike most Samsung touchwiz devices.
Another one is that new nexus devices are all have insanely low prices as they are subsidized by Google.
Also, now nexus devices have the greatest fastest socs in the market. Just look at nexus 4's S4 pro and nexus 10's Exynos 5.
In response to your opinion,
1. Not all nexus devices have great build quality, especially those ones made by Samsung. But in my opinion, all nexus devices have great design and look. Just look at the nexus 4. It's one of the most gorgeous phones in the planet.
2. For your information, the development of the Galaxy s2 is now dead. Also, the galaxy s3 is almost dead. Those are caused by their closed source drivers.
3. Nexus devices are the first to get the STABLE, latest android version.
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The reason is that the Nexus line keeps choices simple. Also, they don't have bloat (TouchWiz, Sense, etc) - and don't say get an AOSP ROM. I have heard that they are nothing but trouble. I quite like the idea of my tablet looking like it's running the same OS as my phone. And personally, the Nexus 4 is the best looking phone out there IMO, even compared to the iPhone 5 and the Samsung S3 (the style/position of the home button killed that design). I really like the UI design of stock Android too, it's not childish or cutesy looking like the bloat or iOS. I'm into the whole 'sci-fi' theme of it.
Also, looking at most other phones, they generally fall short in certain areas, whereas the Nexus devices as of late are looking relatively well considered. After using a Galaxy Nexus, I despise the current state of AMOLED tech. That rules out almost every Samsung phone under the sun. HTC One Xes supposedly have sucky battery life (plus, Tegra 3 vs a quadcore Snapdragon simply isn't a competition at all), and I've decided that lasting less than 5 hours with the screen on (for any mobile device, tablet, phone, whatever) just isn't good enough anymore.
Tablet-wise, for an Android tablet, there is no comparison to the upcoming Nexus 10. The Note sucks and the Infinity really sucks. The iPad wants you to get into the whole Apple ecosystem with Macs and iPhones to really get the best out of things like iCloud and whatnot, and Mac sucks for software & games.
The only real competitor to a Nexus is Windows 8 and WP8, which both look great (better than Android except for the whole 'Bing' thing) but their ecosystems aren't ready for real use yet. I have to say, the Lumia 920 is packing some awesome technology, and with the winter season coming I would really appreciate the touch screen you can use with gloves on. Not to mention the typical Nokia build quality, plus it seems to have everything covered.
The Nexus phones are the quickest to get updates and don't have any OEM skins or bloatware that is forced on the users. While an AOSP ROM can be ported to any phone in theory, it takes time and there are usually hardware issues due to closed source or unavailable drivers, and also locked bootloaders.
The problem with the Nexus line is its sort of like Apple's devices in the sense that there is limited hardware choice and device's memory can't be expanded. My personal hardware tastes are for a smaller device with no more than a 4.3" screen and it must have a microSD slot. I'll put up with OEM skins, bloatware can be frozen with root, as hardware is more important to me than software. But everyone it entitled to their own opinions and preferences.
Nexus phones do have bloat. Google+, google currents, Google earth, google movies, Google books, etc. All /system apps that can't be removed. Most of them are useless.
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Personally running Slim on my S3 is fast enough for me and my aged brain, any faster and I can't keep up!
Add to that my phone is my main music player hooked up to amp and speakers, I love that I can dual boot to get Samsung best bits(few!)
Not worried about lte
Glass back may be stylish.....but is utterly stupid on a phone.
......I am stupid!.....the reasoning?..... .this is all my opinion, nobody is really interested, and I'm not really interested in theirs......ergot......I MUST be stupid for posting in first place.....
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Nexus phones do have bloat. Google+, google currents, Google earth, google movies, Google books, etc. All /system apps that can't be removed. Most of them are useless.
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Was that your final answer? I use most of those... and last I checked, u can go to the play store and uninstall all of them... don't even need root if I'm not mistaken...
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KidCarter93 said:
If you ask one of those people why a Nexus is so great, they'll say one of three things or a mix of the three.
The reasons are;
1) All Nexus devices look great and have great build quality.
2) It's guaranteed to have great developer support.
3) It's officially supported by Google so it will get the latest Android updates before any other device.
Now, let me tell you my response to each of those points...
1) Most Nexus devices don't look great. The only one which looks good, in my opinion, is the Nexus 7. Apart from that, none of them look any better than other devices around.
2) Yes it will have great developer support, but so do a lot of phones which are already around and have been for ages now. An example of that is the Galaxy S2. It's been around for over a year and a half and it still has more development than most phones do
3) Again, this is true. But they're not the only devices to get the Android updates quickly. This site has a smattering of great developers so it will never take long for other devices to get the latest versions, and you haven't even needed to buy a new phone just to get the latest and greatest.
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1) I'll agree not all Nexus look great, though that's a real personal preference thing. I for one, would prefer the Nexus one look over the Nexus s. I currently own a Gnex and I'd be honest in saying it looks alright, but I would like some changes made (Nexus 4, comes close)
2) To be fair, of course the S2 (and noteably other handsets) will have a large dev support, in terms of quantity they sell a lot more than the Nexus family (exception of the Nexus 7, that's the first Nexus priced aggressively)
3) Quick =/= first to get updates. Some people just want the newest FIRST.
I personally choose the nexus because I don't want to be caught with a device that will have a short support life (mentioned above). History shows the Nexus WILL have the most official updates:
Nexus one: Shipped with Eclair, last official version was GB
Nexus S: Shipped with GB, officially supported till Jelly bean
Gnex: Don't know yet, but its gone from ICS to JB.
If you go to dev section, there are even newer (unofficial builds) I don't buy phones every year so I want a phone that will last me 2 years at least.
will we see an official rom soon 2 for us 9505 users
http://opensource.samsung.com/reception/receptionSub.do?method=search&searchValue=GT-I9505G
I don't think that helps us one bit. Hope I'm proven wrong, though.
Nice ty.:angel:
I wonder what Ill get first Wednesday. Windows 8.1 preview or stock Android 4.2.2 for I9505 =]
Aerys said:
Nice ty.:angel:
I wonder what Ill get first Wednesday. Windows 8.1 preview or stock Android 4.2.2 for I9505 =]
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Do you even have to ask that? Android, of course! :victory:
any leaks yet team..
SALAH100 said:
any leaks yet team..
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My friend, wait 1 day and we probably have official rom
How to use the code?
John Chu said:
How to use the code?
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Dial *#THE CODE# and your phone will change to GT-I9505G
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Dial *#THE CODE# and your phone will change to GT-I9505G
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Careful now, he might actually believe it.
I am still trying to figure out the logic of wanting the stock AOSP for the S4 from Samsung.
How will this be any different from running any other AOSP rom? I mean, if you check out PA GamerZ ROM, that works quite well as a daily driver. Why would we want to use this stock AOSP (with features that are quite basic)? Just to get 4.3 when it comes out? So? Some dev will port that anyways.
I mean, if someone bought the S4, wasn't it for the features? If anyone wanted stock AOSP then why not Nexus 4? Ok if hardware is the question, then really waiting for the next Nexus isn't that hard.
So can someone explain to me why?
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I am still trying to figure out the logic of wanting the stock AOSP for the S4 from Samsung.
How will this be any different from running any other AOSP rom? I mean, if you check out PA GamerZ ROM, that works quite well as a daily driver. Why would we want to use this stock AOSP (with features that are quite basic)? Just to get 4.3 when it comes out? So? Some dev will port that anyways.
I mean, if someone bought the S4, wasn't it for the features? If anyone wanted stock AOSP then why not Nexus 4? Ok if hardware is the question, then really waiting for the next Nexus isn't that hard.
So can someone explain to me why?
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For someone like me, it's not about running the stock AOSP on S4. It's about how it can improve the AOSP based custom roms like CM, PA, etc.
Hopefully, Samsung/Google will release proper source codes as quickly as for Nexus devices so that custom roms can run better on S4.
I've been using GS3 (i9305), mainly with CM for the last 10 months or so. It works ok as a daily driver, but not as well as it could've been, mainly because not all the necessary sources are available/released.
I tried Nexus 4 for about a couple of weeks and running CM was definately more fluid/enjoyable than on GS3.
But I couldn't really get used to not having the physical home button and lack of storage space. If GS4 Google Edition is released with exact same hardward as normal i9505, then this will be almost perfect - custom roms running as well as on Nexus devices with physical home button and MicroSD slot.
kingzain900 said:
I am still trying to figure out the logic of wanting the stock AOSP for the S4 from Samsung.
How will this be any different from running any other AOSP rom? I mean, if you check out PA GamerZ ROM, that works quite well as a daily driver. Why would we want to use this stock AOSP (with features that are quite basic)? Just to get 4.3 when it comes out? So? Some dev will port that anyways.
I mean, if someone bought the S4, wasn't it for the features? If anyone wanted stock AOSP then why not Nexus 4? Ok if hardware is the question, then really waiting for the next Nexus isn't that hard.
So can someone explain to me why?
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In simple terms.
Google gets to have its vanilla version of Android on a flagship device without having to subsidize the cost of designing the hardware.
Unlike Nexus devices where Google invests R&D money to make the hardware... having Samsung and HTC put a version of Stock Android on the device pretty much absolves Google of any financial liability in relation to hardware development.
Nexus devices are traditionally spartan... and Google likes it that way... but what if mobile manufacturers want to have nexus compatible device with all the bells and whistles... they will all compete on who has the most Nexus compatible device.
This will attract developers and customers that prefer the stock Google experience
Bear in mind also Google is still developing their Motorola flagship device... this has handset makers very jittery.
Having a GE also puts the latest Android on a device and puts pressure on the makers of the device to move build it out into their MAIN version of Android.
So Key lime pie or 4.3 should come quicker on the HTC and S4 than would be tradtional.
Another issues is transparency.
For too long handset makers have said "our phone can't run the latest version of Android" when we know they lie.
Samsung has been good.. the S2 has JB while the HTC Sensation 4G has all but been dumped by their makers.
Companies that have a Google edition will have that extra edge in longevity.
Gillion said:
In simple terms.
Google gets to have its vanilla version of Android on a flagship device without having to subsidize the cost of designing the hardware.
Unlike Nexus devices where Google invests R&D money to make the hardware... having Samsung and HTC put a version of Stock Android on the device pretty much absolves Google of any financial liability in relation to hardware development.
Nexus devices are traditionally spartan... and Google likes it that way... but what if mobile manufacturers want to have nexus compatible device with all the bells and whistles... they will all compete on who has the most Nexus compatible device.
This will attract developers and customers that prefer the stock Google experience
Bear in mind also Google is still developing their Motorola flagship device... this has handset makers very jittery.
Having a GE also puts the latest Android on a device and puts pressure on the makers of the device to move build it out into their MAIN version of Android.
So Key lime pie or 4.3 should come quicker on the HTC and S4 than would be tradtional.
Another issues is transparency.
For too long handset makers have said "our phone can't run the latest version of Android" when we know they lie.
Samsung has been good.. the S2 has JB while the HTC Sensation 4G has all but been dumped by their makers.
Companies that have a Google edition will have that extra edge in longevity.
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Very good answer. Makes sense. It'd be exciting to see what Motorola device Google releases. MoNex (MoNey?).
kingzain900 said:
Very good answer. Makes sense. It'd be exciting to see what Motorola device Google releases. MoNex (MoNey?).
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This could be the much rumored Google X Phone...
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Theshawty said:
Careful now, he might actually believe it.
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Easy, everyone knows that to work, he'd to input: *#THE SOURCE CODE# , otherwiste it will not work :laugh:
what time the phone will be up for eating anyone knows?
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big_b0sss said:
what time the phone will be up for eating anyone knows?
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Don't think I'd want to eat a phone, actually.
Bet it'll be up noonish, USA time, which means roughly 18.00-19.00 Brit time.
big_b0sss said:
what time the phone will be up for eating anyone knows?
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I think it can be all day in USA
Aerys said:
I think it can be all day in USA
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yeah thats right all day i remember how nexus 4 was eaten within an hour
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big_b0sss said:
yeah thats right all day i remember how nexus 4 was eaten within an hour
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I hope we get firmware today
So until now the N5 is the Dev friendliest phone ATM. Do you think it will lose that position when the one plus one is released? Do you think its worth switching to it when it comes out? Sorry if this is the wrong category or this post is stupid, I will gladly delete it if its not needed
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Radixtrator said:
So until now the N5 is the Dev friendliest phone ATM. Do you think it will lose that position when the one plus one is released? Do you think its worth switching to it when it comes out? Sorry if this is the wrong category or this post is stupid, I will gladly delete it if its not needed
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any latest nexus will always be the dev friendliest phone. the one plus isnt an aosp phone.
I never really got the difference, the makers of the one plus said it will run cm with ability to install stock android. Doesn't that mean its aosp?
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I never really got the difference, the makers of the one plus said it will run cm with ability to install stock android. Doesn't that mean its aosp?
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Well AOSP and CM are different. That's why when you look at ROMs you see AOSP based and CM based mainly and same with kernels. CM actually has its own kernels now and can't run AOSP kernels.
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I never really got the difference, the makers of the one plus said it will run cm with ability to install stock android. Doesn't that mean its aosp?
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So what is the difference between Android and CyanogenMod?
About 1-2 times a year, the vanilla Android operating system (known as AOSP, or the Android Open Source Project) is internally developed, then released to the public, by Google. They provide the source code to anyone who wants to download it. The CyanogenMod community, comprised mostly of unpaid volunteers and enthusiasts from around the world, takes this newest Android code and "ports" it to dozens of new and older (aka "legacy") devices. At the same time, other CyanogenMod developers start adding features, fixes, and improvements that Google didn't include to the CyanogenMod code, which benefits all the devices. The CyanogenMod community has a whole infrastructure for people to build and test experimental versions, report bugs, and contribute back to the source code.
Sometimes features that started in CyanogenMod have appeared in newer version of "official" Android. And every time Android does a new "code dump" of their latest version, CyanogenMod benefits from Google's changes.
In this way, CyanogenMod is one (but not the only) community distribution of what started as vanilla AOSP. The Android community is vibrant, with numerous "modders" and "themers" and "performance enhancers" taking the source code and doing incredible things to it. Generally, there is a spirit of sharing knowledge and empowering people to experiment with controlling their devices, often giving old phones new life, and hopefully having fun in the process.
Source: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/About
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I never really got the difference, the makers of the one plus said it will run cm with ability to install stock android. Doesn't that mean its aosp?
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ability to install stock android isnt the same as having everything made specifically for your phone(drivers and all). many phones can run aosp, after they have drivers hacked or added later. that doesnt mean that they are aosp phones. the drivers that come from aosp are made specifically for a nexus and cant be run on other hardware.
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mistahseller said:
So what is the difference between Android and CyanogenMod?
About 1-2 times a year, the vanilla Android operating system (known as AOSP, or the Android Open Source Project) is internally developed, then released to the public, by Google. They provide the source code to anyone who wants to download it. The CyanogenMod community, comprised mostly of unpaid volunteers and enthusiasts from around the world, takes this newest Android code and "ports" it to dozens of new and older (aka "legacy") devices. At the same time, other CyanogenMod developers start adding features, fixes, and improvements that Google didn't include to the CyanogenMod code, which benefits all the devices. The CyanogenMod community has a whole infrastructure for people to build and test experimental versions, report bugs, and contribute back to the source code.
Sometimes features that started in CyanogenMod have appeared in newer version of "official" Android. And every time Android does a new "code dump" of their latest version, CyanogenMod benefits from Google's changes.
In this way, CyanogenMod is one (but not the only) community distribution of what started as vanilla AOSP. The Android community is vibrant, with numerous "modders" and "themers" and "performance enhancers" taking the source code and doing incredible things to it. Generally, there is a spirit of sharing knowledge and empowering people to experiment with controlling their devices, often giving old phones new life, and hopefully having fun in the process.
Source: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/About
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aosp is constantly getting developed, not twice, three, or four times a year. there is code constantly being added. some of that code also makes it to future android os updates. and bug fixes make it into aosp way before they get released for android os. cm has nothing at all to do with aosp. sure, some of their code makes it into aosp, so does some code of our developers here on xda that have nothing to with cm. cm is just a custom rom, nothing more. a custom rom that somewhat became a little larger because some manufacturers are using it on their devices. its a custom rom, just as rastakat is, just as purity is, etc.
The moto x has a dev version, made by a Google owned company, and it has many flashing limitations that the Nexus line does not have.
That's only an example, but no, I don't think any dev edition phone will ever have the development a nexus phone has, or the limitless possibilities a nexus has. Like bootloader complications, like the moto x DE has.
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kj2112 said:
The moto x has a dev version, made by a Google owned company, and it has many flashing limitations that the Nexus line does not have.
That's only an example, but no, I don't think any dev edition phone will ever have the development a nexus phone has, or the limitless possibilities a nexus has. Like bootloader complications, like the moto x DE has.
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motorola is now own by lenovo
http://www.engadget.com/2014/01/29/lenovo-nearing-3-billion-deal-for-motorola/
So in only dev terms speaking, for people that love flashing everything possible, nothing beats a nexus not even the "superphone" oneplusone?
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So in only dev terms speaking, for people that love flashing everything possible, nothing beats a nexus not even the "superphone" oneplusone?
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so in terms of devs or people that love flashing everything possible? those are 2 very different things. developers not only work on rom or kernel code, they also create apps, games, and other things for us to use. if all you want is a phone to flash on, you can use any phone(nexus for ease since its bootloader is unlockable). the one plus might come with an unlockable bootloader for ease of flashing, but that ease of flashing doesnt make it a developer phone.
No what i meant was, there should normally be More content avaible for nexus devices as its easier for devs to make them correct?
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Radixtrator said:
No what i meant was, there should normally be More content avaible for nexus devices as its easier for devs to make them correct?
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yes. but there is more "hacking" going on with other devices, since much of the code is availble for the nexus 5 right away but needs to be hacked to work with other devices.
Zepius said:
motorola is now own by lenovo
http://www.engadget.com/2014/01/29/lenovo-nearing-3-billion-deal-for-motorola/
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Yes, but Google was in charge when the Moto x's were made, and they really limited them, even the dev models.
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simms22 said:
yes. but there is more "hacking" going on with other devices, since much of the code is availble for the nexus 5 right away but needs to be hacked to work with other devices.
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OK that's what I thought.. God I'm so torn between opo and my n5.. But I love the n5 and its community so I guess I'll stick with it.
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Hi
My current device is the Galaxy S3 i9300. I have found that the android development section for the s3 is plagued with limitations due to the manufactures (Samsung & other parties) holding back the sources. This results in lag, glitches etc ...stuff not working as good as it could.
My question is : does the Nexus 5 face the same limitations as the s3 due to google or lg holding sources back, causing things not to be working in custom roms?
I like what I see with the Nexus 5 but I want to be sure that I'm not falling into the same trap again before I buy one
Thanks in advance
You will not see the same limitations you see with the s3 on the n5. Almost everything is open source and you won't see locked bootloader, a bunch of carrier crap, etc
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steve.p.russell said:
Hi
My current device is the Galaxy S3 i9300. I have found that the android development section for the s3 is plagued with limitations due to the manufactures (Samsung & other parties) holding back the sources. This results in lag, glitches etc ...stuff not working as good as it could.
My question is : does the Nexus 5 face the same limitations as the s3 due to google or lg holding sources back, causing things not to be working in custom roms?
I like what I see with the Nexus 5 but I want to be sure that I'm not falling into the same trap again before I buy one
Thanks in advance
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Nexus`s are build to be customised, you won`t find KNOX or bootloader unlockcode.bin`s (both will void warranty when triggered) here. Happy flashing mate Read the first 4 threads in the General Section well before you do anything . And don`t use tookits.
You obviously have never owned a Nexus. The Nexus isn't locked down like Samsung, HTC, etc. There are no hurdles to jump over when unlocking or modifying. Google makes there phones this way on purpose. That is why nexus phones are the best for ROMs and other modifications. Get a Nexus 5 and you will see how easy it is.
Nexus phone are developer phones. They're created to be modified, tampered, and messed with. You won't find any limits here, so go mental ?.
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WI FI Direct
But wi fi direct does not work which is really annoying wish i had knew that before i bought my N5 last week i would have gone for the LG G2 which to tell the truth i think is better.:cyclops:
chainsuk said:
But wi fi direct does not work which is really annoying wish i had knew that before i bought my N5 last week i would have gone for the LG G2 which to tell the truth i think is better.:cyclops:
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I'm the opposite of you. I have the G2 but feel like I want a 5.
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As i say though wi fi direct does not work yet which is annoying im just hoping they fix it soon as its software problem not hardware,apart from that its a nice phone
With a Nexus you can go as far as the mind can see... or as far as its fans want it to go.
Samsung don't release Exynos source. Actually Qualcomm also don't release snapdragon source either.
However, difference being, google releases full AOSP source code for Nexus 5 where as Samsumg does not, so unlike my old GT-i9300, Camera can still work, audio can still work as well as it would on stock. Samsung only release blobs and no HAL so that's why it suffers,
There will always be limitations developing new features on qualcomm devices, BUT existing features on N5 can work as well as stock. No hardware in the android world is truly / fully open source because of the proprietary nature of SoCs, but as long as the AOSP repository includes everythign we need to run that hardware, it's not so much a big deal.
This might be silly question, but i have been wondering if we will get the final Android L in fall. I am very new to this how this gets updated and so on, and i wondered if we will be left with only the testing version of Android L or we will get the final thing too in fall as official update to nexus 5?
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This might be silly question, but i have been wondering if we will get the final Android L in fall. I am very new to this how this gets updated and so on, and i wondered if we will be left with only the testing version of Android L or we will get the final thing too in fall as official update to nexus 5?
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Nexus devices usually get 18 months of updates after release, so yes.
Thread belongs in Q&A, not General.
The Nexus 5 will get the L update. Even ones after that
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No doubt! Wouldn't make much sense giving us a preview and then not giving us an update
Never fear...it will be here!
Of course, that's what the Nexus line of phones were meant for. That's what this OS was built and tested on by google engineers.
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The last major update for the Nexus 5 will most probably be the L release. Minor updates will happen like we had 4.4.1, 4.4.2 and such.
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No doubt! Wouldn't make much sense giving us a preview and then not giving us an update
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Hey that happened to me with ICS and my Xperia Play...
Just saying...
The Nexus 4 is still receiving updates isn't it? Question answered.
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Koragg618 said:
The last major update for the Nexus 5 will most probably be the L release. Minor updates will happen like we had 4.4.1, 4.4.2 and such.
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No, if L is 5.0, the Nexus 5 will at least get 5.1 as well. It won't be a question until 5.2, but the Nexus 5 will probably get that as well. Heck, we're pretty sure even the Nexus 4 will get L, and the N5 will get updates at least a year longer than the N4.
I see the same question by many Nexus 4 users. "Will we get an official Android L?"
I also think we (Nexus 5) will get an official Android 5.0 too.:silly:
And you really needed to open a new thread for that instead of asking in one of the countless L threads ? Hope the mods will clean up here soon.
MrMarques01 said:
And you really needed to open a new thread for that instead of asking in one of the countless L threads ? Hope the mods will clean up here soon.
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I'm seriously running out of popcorn reading the craziness from this L build.
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nikssims said:
This might be silly question, but i have been wondering if we will get the final Android L in fall. I am very new to this how this gets updated and so on, and i wondered if we will be left with only the testing version of Android L or we will get the final thing too in fall as official update to nexus 5?
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No, Nexus 5 would burst in Flames as soon as it's get the updates... i wont suggest doing that....
I think this thread has reached it's EOL. Your question has been answered in this thread and others multiple times.
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