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Removing Bloat

I posted something similar in the GPS thread for the Galaxy S 4G. I used the One Click Root method and Root Explorer to go in and delete a bunch of bloat from my /system/app and /data/app folders. I pulled out Telenav.apk, DoubleTwist.apk, Layar.apk, VisualVoicemail.apk (replaced with the older, mostly black version that isn't hideous), and Slacker.apk as well as the various .odex files where appropriate.
However, since then I've seen two problems: News and Weather doesn't want to find my location via GPS anymore, and I have to be on Wifi for it to find me. A small annoyance and makes me wonder if the new ROM references Telenav for some location data (which is a good theory following problem two).
The second, more concerning problem, is I'm seeing what I can only call "phantom force closes". It happens after rebooting, randomly when enabling Bluetooth or wifi, and in the stock browser on random websites, the phone vibrates several times indicating errors, will crash out the application (and one time the phone itself), but does not give me the force close error message telling me what app or why. It's definitely looking for either doubletwist or telenav but I can't figure out why it would need to do that as they are 3rd party apps. I've removed these apps before on the Vibrant 2.1 and 2.2 roms without any real problems.
If anyone can provide some helpful information it would be much appreciated. The phone has been more stable the last few hours since several reboots but will likely start acting up again later.
Any thoughts?

I removed all those apps and more without getting a problem on my phone. But I left telenav cause its free and its not beta. I also used terminal emulater and systemapp remover to remove them. Then I used root explorer to delete the odex files of the apps I removed. Maybe the way your removed them was bad.

How do you remove the odex files? Where are they located?

Remove Stock Files / Apps
Here is a quick way to remove the apps that come preinstalled on the T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4G. (you could also follow this for the ones that have .odex files as well. See ls command at the end).
I pieced this together from several forums. Hopefully it will save someone the trouble of doing this themselves (or serve as a refresher like it did for me).
Sorry I couldn't post formal links to the source files (forumn rules), apparently I don't contribute enough . Just put the server names in internet explorer and it should get you there.
1.) Download the Samsung Galaxy S 4G Root app. from mediafire.com/?096oxx07q6d88b3
2.) Download the Samsung USB Device Drivers from here:
-Windows 32 Bit drivers.softpedia.com/get/MOBILES/Samsung/Samsung-Galaxy-S-USB-Driver-for-Windows-x86.shtml
-Windows 64 Bit drivers.softpedia.com/get/MOBILES/Samsung/Samsung-Galaxy-S-USB-Driver-for-Windows-x64.shtml
3.) Install the drivers.
4.) Extract (unzip) the root app to a familiar folder.
5.) Enable USB debugging on your phone: Settings -> Development -> USB Debugging
6.) Plug your phone into your computer (wait till the drivers install)
7.) Open the Root app and click Shell Root
8.) Open a command shell (Start -> Run -> cmd)
9.) Type each line, pressing enter after each line:
cd <replace this text and these brackets with the folder location of the root app>
adb shell
cd /system/app
mount -o remount,rw -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblk3 /system
10.) Next type the following two commands (replace the <...> with your app name, press enter after each line) for each app you wish to remove
chmod 777 <insert your ap name here.apk>
rm <insert your ap name here.apk>
Here is a list of the one's I removed. You can get a list of others by typing the two letters "ls" without quotes into the shell and press enter:
Note: Do not type in the app names in front of the file names, they are just there to let you know what you are deleting.
Kindle App - Kindle-OEM-1.1.1.90750089-20100927.apk
Facebook App - FBAndroid-1.4.1.apk - Facebook App
T-Mobile TV - com.mobitv.client.tmobiletvhd.apk
Doubetwist - doubleTwist.apk
Amazon MP3 - AmazonMp3.apk
Layar - Layar-samsung.apk
Slacker Radio - slackerradio.apk
More Double Twist - doubleTwistPro.apk
Gogo Link (It's expired anyway) - GoGo.apk
Media Hub - MediaHub.apk
Telenav - TN6.2-6201036.apk
Inception Link - MovieShortcut.apk
11.) Restart your phone.

I don't recommend uninstalling bloat via root explorer. The safest way to remove the bloatware is to uninstall it via Titanium backup. Otherwise you might delete a bunch of stuff you really didn't mean to.

Yeah I used TB to remove the stuff.
EDIT: I just did a "Clean up the Dalvik cache" on TB and it removed 26MB of unwanted stuff! Total free 166MB.

rcoulsell said:
Here is a quick way to remove the apps that come preinstalled on the T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4G. (you could also follow this for the ones that have .odex files as well. See ls command at the end).
I pieced this together from several forums. Hopefully it will save someone the trouble of doing this themselves (or serve as a refresher like it did for me).
Sorry I couldn't post formal links to the source files (forumn rules), apparently I don't contribute enough . Just put the server names in internet explorer and it should get you there.
1.) Download the Samsung Galaxy S 4G Root app. from mediafire.com/?096oxx07q6d88b3
2.) Download the Samsung USB Device Drivers from here:
-Windows 32 Bit drivers.softpedia.com/get/MOBILES/Samsung/Samsung-Galaxy-S-USB-Driver-for-Windows-x86.shtml
-Windows 64 Bit drivers.softpedia.com/get/MOBILES/Samsung/Samsung-Galaxy-S-USB-Driver-for-Windows-x64.shtml
3.) Install the drivers.
4.) Extract (unzip) the root app to a familiar folder.
5.) Enable USB debugging on your phone: Settings -> Development -> USB Debugging
6.) Plug your phone into your computer (wait till the drivers install)
7.) Open the Root app and click Shell Root
8.) Open a command shell (Start -> Run -> cmd)
9.) Type each line, pressing enter after each line:
cd <replace this text and these brackets with the folder location of the root app>
adb shell
cd /system/app
mount -o remount,rw -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblk3 /system
10.) Next type the following two commands (replace the <...> with your app name, press enter after each line) for each app you wish to remove
chmod 777 <insert your ap name here.apk>
rm <insert your ap name here.apk>
Here is a list of the one's I removed. You can get a list of others by typing the two letters "ls" without quotes into the shell and press enter:
Note: Do not type in the app names in front of the file names, they are just there to let you know what you are deleting.
Kindle App - Kindle-OEM-1.1.1.90750089-20100927.apk
Facebook App - FBAndroid-1.4.1.apk - Facebook App
T-Mobile TV - com.mobitv.client.tmobiletvhd.apk
Doubetwist - doubleTwist.apk
Amazon MP3 - AmazonMp3.apk
Layar - Layar-samsung.apk
Slacker Radio - slackerradio.apk
More Double Twist - doubleTwistPro.apk
Gogo Link (It's expired anyway) - GoGo.apk
Media Hub - MediaHub.apk
Telenav - TN6.2-6201036.apk
Inception Link - MovieShortcut.apk
11.) Restart your phone.
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So you don't report any weirdness or phantom force closes? The last few days since I made the post the phone has been almost entirely stable. GPS is still a little touchy but no more errors or lock-ups.
Also, on a side- note: am I the only person on XDA that doesn't remove Amazon MP3? I actually use it pretty frequently. That is, until I see how good Google Music is going to be (if it's actually a music purchasing service).

stellarvelocity said:
So you don't report any weirdness or phantom force closes? The last few days since I made the post the phone has been almost entirely stable. GPS is still a little touchy but no more errors or lock-ups.
Also, on a side- note: am I the only person on XDA that doesn't remove Amazon MP3? I actually use it pretty frequently. That is, until I see how good Google Music is going to be (if it's actually a music purchasing service).
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I haven't had any GPS issues. Additionally I use the ADB way to remove apps because I'm develop apps and like the shell best.

Rooted mine yesterday...used TB to get rid of all that bs...bye bye evo!
Sent from my DAMN Galaxy 4G¡!

removing touchwiz
has anyone tried removing TouchWiz?

I removed touchwiz and use the gingerbread launcher. No problems

I recently found myself having those problems too. I assumed it was because of setcpu. I delete my appz with uninstaller for root....I don't know if that was any good. However, I was hoping that I would be able to start from scratch with everything but I don't know how I can start from scratch. I am completely new to this, so alot of the terminology and thing of that nature are Vulcan to me. So if someone can help me, that, finally, would be great.

Feel Your Pain, Deleted "My Account 1.0" and now hurting
I was trying to get rid of "My Account", AKA T-Mobile My Acount, to keep it from constantantly running in the background, but actually deleted "My Account 1.0" with Titanium Pro... I tried to freeze it but it kept appearing in my task list, so I deleted it.
Soon as I did, I got a buzz... buzz buzz buzz... the buzzes of death... I now get force closes when ending a phone call, when trying to read SMS, and when trying to view my call log.
This is killing me, and I have no idea how to fix it...
Any experts out there, please help!

RadFly said:
I was trying to get rid of "My Account", AKA T-Mobile My Acount, to keep it from constantantly running in the background, but actually deleted "My Account 1.0" with Titanium Pro... I tried to freeze it but it kept appearing in my task list, so I deleted it.
Soon as I did, I got a buzz... buzz buzz buzz... the buzzes of death... I now get force closes when ending a phone call, when trying to read SMS, and when trying to view my call log.
This is killing me, and I have no idea how to fix it...
Any experts out there, please help!
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Never mind, I had frozen Logsprovider...

stellarvelocity said:
So you don't report any weirdness or phantom force closes? The last few days since I made the post the phone has been almost entirely stable. GPS is still a little touchy but no more errors or lock-ups.
Also, on a side- note: am I the only person on XDA that doesn't remove Amazon MP3? I actually use it pretty frequently. That is, until I see how good Google Music is going to be (if it's actually a music purchasing service).
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I rooted my Samsung Vibrant 4G and used Titanium Backup to delete allot of the same T-Mobile BS bloatware that you did. Had that same "phantom force closes" that you described. Mid phone call today the phone vibrated a few times and force close phone application and hung up on my call. Has this problem remained stabilized for you?

Titanium
aloneinshadow said:
I don't recommend uninstalling bloat via root explorer. The safest way to remove the bloatware is to uninstall it via Titanium backup. Otherwise you might delete a bunch of stuff you really didn't mean to.
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How do I uninstall the software using Titanium? I tried following the instructions via another thread but I only got so far. I was told to click Problems - get busybox - and then long press the apps I want to remove and force delete. However, I am able to get as far as downloading busybox. After that, are my apps supposed to show within the program Titanium or am I supposed to go to the applications itself or what? Im stuck from there....can you help????

[FUNCTIONAL][CM7] HONEYCOMB Music Player w/[CLOUD SYNC] w/ Correct Instructions-eMaN

ACTUALLY FUNCTIONAL. Thanks to lws803 for OWNER OF ORIGINAL INSTRUCTIONS + me for instruction edits to make it work. NOTHANKS to KarateExplosion6 for giving NO CREDIT to us and copying thread exactly. His isn't as functional
These instructions work for both CDMA HERO from SPRINT and the HTC DROID ERIS from VERIZON
INSTRUCTIONS
1. FIRST BEFORE ANYTHING make sure you make this path/folder on your sdcard /media/Music and place all your music there or music will NOT sync. Delete Your original music app if running a non-Sense based rom.
1.5. Download the music apk here. -----> http://www.mediafire.com/?j73zh5ld7bpcbqn
2. Open the apk using Root Explorer from your phone or from your computer with winrar
3. Open the lib folder and the 'armeabi-v7a' folder and extract 'libjumper.so' to root of sdcard. If on computer put it to your desktop
4. If you used a computer connect your phone to your computer and copy the 'libjumper.so' and the music.apk file to the root of your sd card
5. Using root explorer, go to your sd card and copy the 'libjumper.so' file and paste it in your phone system/lib
6. rename your honeycomb music apk into 'Music.apk' and make sure its in the root of your sdcard
7. close root explorer and go to terminal emulator(available on Market)
8.then type
su
[enter]
mount -o remount,rw -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblock3 /system
[enter]
cp /sdcard/Music.apk /system/app
[enter]
9. Then go to root explorer again and into system>app and long press on Music.apk.
10. select permissions and make sure the check boxes have a inverted (upside down) L shaped pattern
11. close your root explorer and reboot your phone
12. You should see a bown coloured music icon on your phone's app list enjoy!
13. eMaN edit: To initiate sync go to Setting, Accounts & Sync , click on your google account and there will be options you can check and check music
14. Go to your apps and open Jumpertest app(has the music icon) then click on acounts tab, choose your gmail account, next go to the tab that has start peer, stop peer, and import media.
15. (HOW CLOUD WORKS) Ok this is the important step to initiate sync. Once following step 14 on that tab click start peer and wait 5 seconds. Next click import media and wait 5 seconds and the sync should initiate and BOOM there you have it sync may take several hours if you have a lot of music.
Also make sure in the music app u hit menu/library something/ and only stream
Make sure you tell your buddies and pals about this.

I'll try this soon, I actually wanted this for a week or so.
Looks like I'll need to nandroid first though.
EDIT: Wait, it really needs Root Explorer? Darn, I guess I finally have to break down and get it.

Nilxchaos said:
I'll try this soon, I actually wanted this for a week or so.
Looks like I'll need to nandroid first though.
EDIT: Wait, it really needs Root Explorer? Darn, I guess I finally have to break down and get it.
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IMHO, root explorer is one if those apps that no rooted device should be without. Along with titanium backup. Both are excellent.
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Sent from my CDMA Hero. I got some hot Gingerbread-on-Hero action here!

Sadly I don't have either of those apps.
user7618 said:
IMHO, root explorer is one if those apps that no rooted device should be without. Along with titanium backup. Both are excellent.
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Sent from my CDMA Hero. I got some hot Gingerbread-on-Hero action here!
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Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

im trying this now. how do I know if its syncing?
also, will i not be able to access the music files on my sd?
I couldnt find them in my music app.
[EDIT] Nevermind, I think ive got it syncing now.

I followed the steps, synced a couple of songs, deleted them from my sdcard, after that they still showed up when i pressed "only streamed" but when i try to play them it "buffers" for 2 seconds and then says "Sorry, the player does not support this type of audio file." All files are mp3s.

I have no idea why but it works for me using an Eris and this one Guy with a sprint phone. Its 5am ill look into it laterz

I tried this on CSouth Hero and it installed fine and I believe it is syncing as we speak.
Question: Does it have to completely complete syncing before music begins to show up? I'll found out soon anyways since I didn't have much music on here.

Installed fine, synced well. Thanks!!!

Guys, it's NOT syncing in the sense that it is actually uploading music to the cloud at this time. Anyone telling you different is lying. It is simulating syncing, but not actually doing it; it is syncing file indexes...that's why the titles appear even if you remove the sd card but get the error saying "cannot play this type of file".
REPEAT: it is NOT uploading to cloud yet. Don't believe anyone who says they've got it working. It's a load.
Obv., it's nigh and will be happening soon. But not yet.

I'm finding step 10 a little confusing.
Mind clearing that up a bit?
EDIT: Never mind, got it to work. Thanks.

Hello,
You may want to make it clear to all users that the permissions for both Music.apk and libjumper.so need to be set to R,W,-,R,-,-,R,-,-. Also all steps can be completed using Root Explorer without the need to use Terminal Emulator. I seemed to have the same results doing it both ways. This is a great music program but since it was designed for a tablet there seems to be issues playing music in portrait mode at least with my phone running 2.3.3. I do have a tablet but it is only running 2.1, has there been a mod released to allow this application to run in 2.1?
Cheers

jschill31 said:
Hello,
You may want to make it clear to all users that the permissions for both Music.apk and libjumper.so need to be set to R,W,-,R,-,-,R,-,-. Also all steps can be completed using Root Explorer without the need to use Terminal Emulator. I seemed to have the same results doing it both ways. This is a great music program but since it was designed for a tablet there seems to be issues playing music in portrait mode at least with my phone running 2.3.3. I do have a tablet but it is only running 2.1, has there been a mod released to allow this application to run in 2.1?
Cheers
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f if i know

so i tried this out, and didnt make a backup for the original Music apk since i couldnt find it. (dumb, i know)
anyway, i tried to go back by moving another music apk to system/app and gave it rw-r--r-- permissions and everything looked like it was working, but now im getting bootloops or no boot at all.
can someone please help this noob?
[EDIT] nevermind, got it.

will thiss only work in a cm7 rom or would it work for aospcmod?

dubach said:
will thiss only work in a cm7 rom or would it work for aospcmod?
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Works for me on aospCmod bro..lol..i say give her a whirl cuz its fairly nice

Does anyone have VIDEO proof? Last time I tried this, I wasted a whole day flashing a normal cm7 (no apps2ext) copying files to another sdcard since my card I use for my Nexus is about full, and tried to sync all weekend... Not doing that again for failure.
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App

fc on rotation
I have tried installing several times now trying to eliminate any variables. every time I start the app it works great unless I rotate the phone 90 degrees in album view. I can guess just don't do that but it has me baffled.
htc hero aospcmod 4-29

This app is bad ass! Thank you
Sent from my HERO200 using XDA App

For those of you who have this working, can you take a couple of screen shots so we can see it in action?

Market Fix - Froyo Apps + Tegra 2 Apps

In addition to the standard Market Fix to get protected applications working (clearing cache/data), we also need to trick Google to think we have a Tegra 2 device.
We simply need to change the following line in /system/build.prop
ro.product.device=olympus
This tells Google Market we are using a Motorola Atrix 4G and will give us the missing Tegra 2 apps when applying our market fix.
However, since we are mimicking a phone, Tablet specific apps will not show up (NYTimes app for Tablets is an example)
Cheers!
Edit:
It is well known that the Google Web Market is hit and miss on our GTablets. This thread indicates it may take a few days for our tablet's to show up on the web interface. However, what this fix does is allow you to download most of the Froyo + Tegra2 apps via the Market Application within our tablets. There will be applications that will refuse to install through the web market interface (if your tablet can actually show up on the darn thing) because of missing capabilities, but will install just fine via the Market app.
If you want to install apps using a web browser from your Desktop computer, I recommend the use of Appbrain to generate your list of desired apps and then syncing your list on the tablet to install.

Hi,
SUPER!!
This build.prop change, just by itself, on stock 3588, allows me to see a bunch of apps I haven't been able to see before, including Firefox, Flash, Tank Hero, etc. Didn't have to do anything else, no fingerprint changes, etc.
Thanks!
Jim

AWESOME! The only thing I can't find is message ease which is no great loss and I'm not seeing it on the web either -- I think they are pulling it on and off the market. But YES -- Laucher Pro, Saumari, Silver Creek games, Flash 10.2, tv.com, both opera browsers, dolphin HD -- all there. FANTASTIC. THANK YOU!
Even Vlingo shows up which was never found before. Truth is I don't even want it but it was one of my indicators.

wd5gnr said:
AWESOME! The only thing I can't find is message ease which is no great loss and I'm not seeing it on the web either -- I think they are pulling it on and off the market.
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Are you looking for MessagEase?
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.exideas.mekb

Whoops! Helps if you spell it right. I always think that should be a faster keyboard but then I give up and go back to BetterKeyboard or the word predicting one which is great until you need to do Linux command lines and such.
Sorry for the confusion. I even found Astro Bluetooth Module another I used to have to switch for. Very cool.

Hmmm... the market.android.com site no longer shows my device since I made the above fix! It only shows my older device. I tried just clearing the market cache and rerunning but no go. I am now running the regular market fix (clear cache in market, stop, clear data in service framework, stop, reboot).
I did install things off the market, but it had to be from the device.
Ok tablet is booted back up.... drum roll....
Nope. And now I am -- for now -- only showing my paid apps off the market, none of the freebies I had previously installed.
UPDATE: I killed the market data and cache along with the service framework data and rebooted. This made no difference to the web site (unless it takes time for it to catch up) but it did -- after installing something else -- restore my existing apps. On the other hand, having the market working on the device beats the web site, but it still means something is "off".

How do we request this be made a sticky?
I know I've tried just about every market tweak for the last 3+ months and this is the only 1 that made a huge diff.
Jim

I haven't tried this fix (heck I don't even know how to apply it, someone mind helping a noob out?) but I had the same problem you did where the web market doesn't show your device. I tried spamming the regular market fix and still no good.
However I logged back into the web store today and it showed my device, weird.
Not sure how to fix it but yesterday I changed my password so I was forced to sign in again. Of course that didn't work at the moment but I guess it worked since I can now see my device now.
Hope this helped.
wd5gnr said:
Hmmm... the market.android.com site no longer shows my device since I made the above fix! It only shows my older device. I tried just clearing the market cache and rerunning but no go. I am now running the regular market fix (clear cache in market, stop, clear data in service framework, stop, reboot).
I did install things off the market, but it had to be from the device.
Ok tablet is booted back up.... drum roll....
Nope. And now I am -- for now -- only showing my paid apps off the market, none of the freebies I had previously installed.
UPDATE: I killed the market data and cache along with the service framework data and rebooted. This made no difference to the web site (unless it takes time for it to catch up) but it did -- after installing something else -- restore my existing apps. On the other hand, having the market working on the device beats the web site, but it still means something is "off".
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Yeah I tried logging out of the web site and back in. I've tried forcing a google account sync. And I've tried making sure Talk is running (apparently the website uses talk to send things to your device.).
Just for fun I put my ro.product.name/device/board back to Vega and with no reboot or anything the web site immediately found the device.... curious....
Well now that I'm back on the web site, my market is back to how it was even after I put the olympus line in. Getting too late. Will look at it tomorrow :-(

Hachi2Go said:
I haven't tried this fix (heck I don't even know how to apply it, someone mind helping a noob out?) but I had the same problem you did where the web market doesn't show your device. I tried spamming the regular market fix and still no good.
However I logged back into the web store today and it showed my device, weird.
Not sure how to fix it but yesterday I changed my password so I was forced to sign in again. Of course that didn't work at the moment but I guess it worked since I can now see my device now.
Hope this helped.
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I did the change by:
- get temp root via z4root
- make /system R/W via root explorer
- start a terminal
- cd /system
- Edit build.prop: busybox vi build.prop
- did regular market fix
- reboot
Jim

wd5gnr said:
Hmmm... the market.android.com site no longer shows my device since I made the above fix! It only shows my older device. I tried just clearing the market cache and rerunning but no go. I am now running the regular market fix (clear cache in market, stop, clear data in service framework, stop, reboot).
I did install things off the market, but it had to be from the device.
Ok tablet is booted back up.... drum roll....
Nope. And now I am -- for now -- only showing my paid apps off the market, none of the freebies I had previously installed.
UPDATE: I killed the market data and cache along with the service framework data and rebooted. This made no difference to the web site (unless it takes time for it to catch up) but it did -- after installing something else -- restore my existing apps. On the other hand, having the market working on the device beats the web site, but it still means something is "off".
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You're right that having market work on the device beats the website! The web market issues may be a whole separate battle.
Jim

jimcpl said:
I did the change by:
- get temp root via z4root
- make /system R/W via root explorer
- start a terminal
- cd /system
- Edit build.prop: busybox vi build.prop
- did regular market fix
- reboot
Jim
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I'm quite new to the Android OS so I'm not really sure how to do this.
I installed z4root and got temp root. I'm not sure if I needed it as I read somewhere that Vegan 5.1.1 (which I am using) gives me root already.
But I installed it and ran it anyways.
I'm stuck on giving my /system read and write permissions. Is this 'root explorer' app needed? Or can I use my 'iFileExplorer' app to do so, if so how? (It came with the vegan ROM)

Not sure if you meant to type ifileManger, but it will not get you write permissions. Root explorer will allow you to write. It looks as though you may have to
open a terminal up as discussed above, to change the build prop.
Hachi2Go said:
I'm quite new to the Android OS so I'm not really sure how to do this.
I installed z4root and got temp root. I'm not sure if I needed it as I read somewhere that Vegan 5.1.1 (which I am using) gives me root already.
But I installed it and ran it anyways.
I'm stuck on giving my /system read and write permissions. Is this 'root explorer' app needed? Or can I use my 'iFileExplorer' app to do so, if so how? (It came with the vegan ROM)
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Hachi2Go said:
I'm quite new to the Android OS so I'm not really sure how to do this.
I installed z4root and got temp root. I'm not sure if I needed it as I read somewhere that Vegan 5.1.1 (which I am using) gives me root already.
But I installed it and ran it anyways.
I'm stuck on giving my /system read and write permissions. Is this 'root explorer' app needed? Or can I use my 'iFileExplorer' app to do so, if so how? (It came with the vegan ROM)
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Hi,
If you don't have root explorer, there's a free app on market called something like "system mount r/w" that is free that will mount /system as r/w for you. Or, I think that you can do it using a terminal and a mount command (something like mount -remount....).
Normal file explorers won't do the remount.
Jim

mount -o remount,rw /system /system
Watch out for the spaces and you need to be root so do an su command first.
When done, repear the mount command but use ro instead of rw. You can do this with a terminal program or the adb.

Root Explorer is what, $3.99? Worth it for the time savings. I bought the Ti Pro too. $300+ on a tablet...spend $9 on some software to make life easier.

iam a noob. i have stock rom 3588. how do i get market working?

By the light of morning I got back to a full market! But it again broke the web site connection. Is anyone seeing this behavior? Or is it just me?
For the new guys.
1) This appears like it MAY break your connection with the market web site [Update: Wait a few hours and it appears to catch up with you]. It may have other unknown effects. If you are not comfortable with making mods you might wait until more people have reported success or failure with this. For the record I did NOT find this fix (thanks Isira -- see OP of this thread). Just writing up my take on what you need to do. This applies to VEGAn 5.1.1 with supplement. It has been noted that with a stock rom you may need to put "busybox" before commands like cp (which you don't need to use if you have Root Explorer, by the way). If you get this to work (or not) on a different ROM, report it in this thread.
2) That being said, you need a file explorer that will look at / and edit text files, an su utility (comes with your root kit; as far as I know all the custom ROMs are pre rooted) and a command shell/terminal. Or you could spring a few bucks and get Root Explorer which is well worth it and does all of these things. Others have suggested Absolute Root tools which I do not know about. You could also use adb for all of it (which is what I did) but if you know how to do that, you probably don't need me to tell you what to do. We will be changing your build.prop file in the /system directory.
IF YOU ARE NOT USING ROOT EXPLORER GO DOWN TO STEP 3B. IF YOU ARE, GO TO STEP 3A.
3A) Open root explorer. Find /system and press the "Mount R/W" button.
4A) Long press on build.prop and select Copy. Then navigate somewhere like /mnt/sdcard and press the paste button at the bottom of the screen. This is your backup. Please backup.
5A) Go back to /system
6A) Long press on build.prop again. The menu is scrollable. You want Open in Text Editor.
7A) Find the line that says ro.product.device=XXXX (where XXXX is probably Vega). Make it read:
ro.product.device=olympus
Don't change anything else.
8A) Save the file by pressing the menu key and selecting Save & Exit.
9A) Scroll to the top of the /system directory and press the Mount R/O button.
10A) Reboot your tablet. Wait for things to settle down on restart. Open Market. Look for Saumari 2. Look for LauncherPro, Opera Mobile, etc. It will all be there.
If you don't have root explorer:
3B) Open the terminal. At the prompt, enter (spaces and lower case matter):
su
mount -o remount,rw /system /system
HINT: If you think you will do this a lot grab Script Manager off of the market. You can put the mount line in a script, tell it to execute as root (which is the same as su) and then you can run the script when you want to make changes.
4B) Start your file manager and find the /system directory. Your file manager probably starts in /sdcard or /mnt/sdcard. You'll need to go "up" a directory or two to root and then back down. Either way, when you find it, make a backup copy of build.prop somewhere you can write to. Seriously. Do not skip this step. Make the copy.
5B) Edit build.prop. You are looking for a line that sys ro.product.device=XXXX (probably Vega; I don't know about other ROMs and if this works for other ROMs but for VEGAn 5.1.1 its Vega). Carefully replace whatever you have as XXXX to olympus. So the line should read:
ro.product.device=olympus
Note: Some of us had other changes to build.prop. Not clear if these had any effect or not.
6B) Save your changes. If your file explorer is not root, you probably need to save the file to where you can write (your sdcard for example) and the copy from a terminal, such as:
su
cp /mnt/sdcard/new-buildprop.txt /system/build.prop
or
su
busybox cp /mnt/sdcard/new-buildprop.txt /system/build.prop
7B) Open your terminal and enter:
su
mount -o remount,ro /system /system
Remember spaces and case count! Also if you are in the same terminal window as before you don't have to keep entering su since you stay root.
NOTES FOR BOTH SETS OF INSTRUCTIONS
I did the original market fix after saving the file, but some people say it is not necessary. But at least a few people have said they don't see much or anything in market until the redo the fix (the one where you delete the market cache and the google services framework data and reboot).
Things that appear to work:
1) Installing free programs
2) Updating existing programs
3) Amazon market web site oddly enough
4) The official market Web site AFTER WAITING SEVERAL HOURS
5) Buying an app off the build in application
Some of us had other changes to build.prop but I don't think any of them were significant. If you have trouble you might apply it (shouldn't hurt). Also, if your "my apps" only shows your paid apps (or nothing if you have no paid apps), try downloading anything off the market and that will usually restore it. There is also an update local cache key that might do the trick, but loading some freebie off the market is easier. Also check to make sure gtalk is logged in. You can try forcing a resync on your Google accounts (in the main menu under Accounts).
Hope that helps someone. Its early so I probably made mistakes and will edit any that are found.

wd5gnr,
I don't know how "unusual" it is, but on my Gtab, where I had 3452 for awhile, then now 3588, I've always noted that I don't have a "cp" command, so I have to use "busybox cp".
Just FYI, in case anyone encounters this when they try your instructions.
Jim

wd5gnr said:
By the light of morning I got back to a full market! But it again broke the web site connection. Is anyone seeing this behavior? Or is it just me?
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Based on this thread ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=941205 ), it seems it may take a few days for the tablets to register on the market.
I have 3 tablets and I'm trying to change the identifier for each tablet through the ro.product.model and seeing if each of the tablets will show up on the market. So far, only one tablet is showing on the web market, but it's still using the old ro.product.model identifier (GTablet-TnT-Lite).
However, the web market is still pretty wonky. Certain apps may refuse to install through the web market because of missing capabilities on our tablets, but will install just fine through the market app.

App removal - bloat (Depreciated thread - See OP for update links)

UPDATE/EDIT: September 12th, 2011 -
I am depreciating this thread and will no longer check on or support it. For more information on this topic:
See MT4GS Stock App Encyclopedia for information about the apps themselves.
See Bloater to make stock app removal easier then you could ever imagine it being.
UPDATE/EDIT: August 21st, 2011 -
Posts 19 through 25 are a summary and how-to of what we have learned about removing apps from the stock rooted rom so far. Skip ahead if you want, otherwise the thread is a good read all the way through.
Now that we have a working S-OFF/Root procedure, a lot of us want to kill some of the stuff that came pre-loaded on our phones.
Root is required, and performing a backup through Clockworkmod is a necessity as well. Both backup and restore actions have been tested and working in CWM 4.0.0.9.
I am not responsible for what happens to your device after removing these files, so make sure you make a CWM backup BEFORE you start mucking around with this.
Some other threads that have been dealing with this for this device are Here, Here and Here. I would like to thank the people who have contributed, and continue to do so in those threads. I made this one in "themes and apps", as I think that people in the future coming in will look here first and this may cut down future confusion and questions.
There are a couple of ways you can accomplish this, but i'll start with the (almost) longest way. See the bottom of the post for other options.
We will be using a file manager to accomplish this task, "File Expert", free from the Google market. (I recommend "Root Explorer", a paid app, but if you've come this far you should get it at some point).
You will need to hit options, choose more, then Mount. Select "Mount as Read Write" to be able to delete the files/folders.
Listed below are the apps and what you have to delete to remove them.
Archived to code tags to make the post smaller. The summaries I wrote out are full page further in the thread, so it's easier to see the whole process.
Themes:
Code:
Aubergine
/system/app/aubergine.apk
/data/data/com.tmobile.theme.aubergine
Brooklyn
/system/app/Brooklyn.apk
/data/data/com.tmobile.theme.brooklyn
Jazz
/system/app/Jazz.apk
/data/data/com.tmobile.theme.jazz
Retro
/system/app/Retro.apk
/data/data/com.tmobile.theme.retro
Spring
/system/app/Spring.apk
/data/data/com.tmobile.theme.spring
Live Wallpapers
/system/app/LiveWallpapers.apk
/system/app/LiveWallpapers.odex
/data/data/com.android.wallpaper
Magic Smoke Wallpapers
/system/app/MagicSmokeWallpapers.apk
/system/app/MagicSmokeWallpapers.odex
/data/data/com.android.magicsmoke
Music Visualization Wallpapers
/system/app/VisualizationWallpapers.apk
/system/app/VisualizationWallpapers.odex
/data/data/com.android.musicvis
Sense Live Wallpaper
/system/app/Mode10Wallpapers.apk
/system/app/Mode10Wallpapers.odex
/data/data/com.htc.android.wallpaper
Streak Live Wallpaper
/system/app/HTCLivewallpaperStreak.apk
/system/app/HTCLivewallpaperStreak.odex
/data/data/com.htc.livewallpaper.streak
Weather Live Wallpaper
/system/app/HtcWeatherWallpaper.apk
/system/app/HtcWeatherWallpaper.odex
/data/data/com.htc.WeatherWallpaper
Widgets:
Code:
HTC Widget Download Manager
/system/app/WidgetDownloadManager.apk
/system/app/WidgetDownloadManager.odex
/data/data/com.htc.wdm
Bookmark Widget
/system/app/htcbookmarkwidget3d.apk
/system/app/htcbookmarkwidget3d.odex
/data/data/com.htc.fusion.htcbookmarkwidget
Calculator Widget
/system/app/htcCalculatorWidget.apk
/system/app/htcCalculatorWidget.odex
/data/data/com.htc.android.fusion.calculator
Calendar Widget
/system/app/htccalendarwidgets3d.apk
/system/app/htccalendarwidgets3d.odex
/data/data/com.htc.htccalendarwidgets
Clock Widget
/system/app/htcclock3dwidget.apk
/system/app/htcclock3dwidget.odex
/data/data/com.htc.clock3dwidget
FM Radio Widget
/system/app/com.htc.FMRadioWidget.apk
/system/app/com.htc.FMRadioWidget.odex
/data/data/com.htc.FMRadioWidget
Friend Stream Widget
/system/app/com.htc.FriendStream3DWidget.apk
/system/app/com.htc.FriendStream3DWidget.odex
/data/data/com.htc.FriendStream3DWidget
Mail Widget
/system/app/htcmailwidgets3d.apk
/system/app/htcmailwidgets3d.odex
/data/data/com.htc.htcmailwidgets
Messages Widget
/system/app/com.htc.htcmsgwidgets3d.apk
/system/app/com.htc.htcmsgwidgets3d.odex
/data/data/com.htc.htcmsgwidgets3d
Music Widget
/system/app/com.htc.MusicWidget.apk
/system/app/com.htc.MusicWidget.odex
/data/data/com.htc.MusicWidget3D
Photo Widget
/system/app/HtcPhotoWidget.apk
/system/app/HtcPhotoWidget.odex
/data/data/com.htc.photowidget3d
Setup Widget
/system/app/HtcSetupWidget.apk
/system/app/HtcSetupWidget.odex
/data/data/com.htc.setupwidget
Sync Widget
/system/app/com.htc.Sync3Dwidget.apk
/system/app/com.htc.Sync3Dwidget.odex
/data/data/com.htc.Sync3DWidget
Tips for Home Widget
/system/app/HtcTipWidget.apk
/system/app/HtcTipWidget.odex
/data/data/com.htc.rosiewidgets.tip
Trends Widget
/system/app/com.htc.TrendsWidget.apk
/system/app/com.htc.TrendsWidget.odex
/data/data/com.htc.Trends3DWidget
Twitter Widget
/system/app/com.htc.Twitter3DWidget.apk
/system/app/com.htc.Twitter3DWidget.odex
/data/data/com.htc.Twitter3DWidget
Weather Widget
/system/app/HtcWeather3DWidget.apk
/system/app/HtcWeather3DWidget.odex
/data/data/com.htc.widget3d.weather
System-Type Apps:
Code:
App Sharing
/system/app/appsharing.apk
/system/app/appsharing.odex
/data/data/com.htc.appsharing
AppPack
/system/app/MallLite-4.0.92.apk
/data/data/com.tmobile.appack
Backup
/system/app/MobileBackup.apk
/data/data/com.voxmobile.sync.mobilebackup2
Calculator
/system/app/calculator.apk
/system/app/calculator.odex
/data/data/com.android.calculator2
Home Screen Tips
/system/app/Protips.apk
/system/app/Protips.odex
/data/data/com.android.protips
Setup
/system/app/HTCSetupWizard.apk
/system/app/HTCSetupWizard.odex
/data/data/com.htc.android.htcsetupwizard
Swype
/system/app/Swype.apk
/data/data/com.swype.android.inputmethod
T Mobile Device Carbon
/system/app/TmobileAndroidDeviceCarbon-c42-n123.apk
/data/data/com.zipwhip.devicecarbon.tmobile
T Mobile TV
/system/app/com.mobitv.client.tmobiletvhd
/data/data/com.mobitv.client.tmobiletvhd
Video Chat
/system/app/qik.apk
/data/data/com.qiktmobile.android
Apps:
Code:
Adobe Reader
/system/app/AdobeReader.apk
/data/data/com.adobe.reader
Bejeweled 2
/system/app/Bejeweled2_trust5.apk
/data/data/com.eamobile.bejeweled2_small
DT-Sync
/system/app/desktopPointer-signed-v6.apk
/data/data/com.doubletwist.desktopPointer
Facebook
/system/app/HtcFacebook.apk
/system/app/HtcFacebook.odex
/data/data/com.htc.socialnetwork.facebook
Flickr
/system/app/flickr.apk
/system/app/flickr.odex
/data/data/com.htc.socialnetwork.flickr
Friend Stream
/system/app/FriendStream.apk
/system/app/FriendStream.odex
/data/data/com.htc.friendstream
Media Room
/system/app/MediaRoom.apk
/system/app/MediaRoom.odex
/data/data/com.htc.MediaLauncher
Netflix
/system/app/netflix-17-release-android-marketplace-upgrade.apk
/data/data/com.netflix.mediaclient
Peep
/system/app/HtcTwitter.apk
/system/app/HtcTwitter.odex
/data/data/com.htc.htctwitter
PhotoGrid
/system/app/HtcPhotoGridWidget3D.apk
/system/app/HtcPhotoGridWidget3D.odex
/data/data/com.htc.rosiewidgets.photogridwidget3d
Polaris Office
/system/app/PolarisOffice.apk
/data/data/com.infraware.docmaster
Slacker Radio
/system/app/slackerradio.apk
/data/data/com.slacker.radio
Telenav GPS Navigator
/system/app/TMOUS_Navigator.apk
/data/data/com.telenav.app.android.telenav
Zinio Reader
/system/app/ZinioReader.v2.03.3312.Regular.apk
/data/data/com.zinio.mobile.android
ZS Provider
/system/app/ZinioSettingsProvider.v2.03.3198.TMobile.Smartphone.apk
/data/data/com.zinio.android.settings
I have removed all of these apps from my system, and it still runs fine. No problems.
You may get a crash report to send to HTC while removing some of these things (I denied it), but you can ignore it. You will get them it when removing themes for sure.
I don't see why using an app to remove these (like Absolute System) would be an issue - just make sure to go back and manually delete the .odex files, as such apps probably won't get them.
And, of course, you could always use a terminal emulator to (rm) remove the files/folders manually.
Also, for the more adventurous: (but it wasn't a problem)
Internet
/system/app/Browser.apk
/system/app/Browser.odex
/data/data/com.android.browser
(I replaced with "Opera Mobile" by Opera Software ASA - Free app)
Mail
/system/app/mail.apk
/system/app/mail.odex
/data/data/com.htc.android.mail
(Removing mail does not prevent GMAIL from working correctly)
Music
/system/app/HtcMusic.apk
/system/app/HtcMusic.odex
/data/data/com.htc.music
Music Enhancer
/system/app/HtcMusicEnhancer.apk
/system/app/HtcMusicEnhancer.odex
/data/data/com.htc.musicenhancer
(I replaced with "Android Music" by JRTStudio - Free app)
If anyone else finds things they can safely remove, please post it for others to play with.
Have fun!

deleted most of those and got
'uids on the system are inconsistent' every time on boot
careful...

Can you list which ones you removed to cause that?
Also, were you using a theme that you deleted?
CWM backup is vital when starting to mess with this - I haven't had to restore due to system issues.
I'd love to try to duplicate your problem on my phone to find a fix. Thanks!

I prefer not to actually delete apps in case I ever want to unroot (though this probably isn't that likely but still) and I understand that by doing so, those apps need to be present. if any of you are interested, there is a free app on the market that I discovered. just search "antek" in the market and it freezes whatever bloatware you have so that it no longer runs in the background and should you want to recover it, all you do is just "defrost" it and it runs exactly as it did before. I've saved loads of battery by using this.

I'm using a custom theme that wasn't deleted. I understand that I could get the cyanogenmod fix_permissions script to fix this, but haven't located it yet.
I stuck to your list before this happened except for swype and a few others.
Wasn't looking for help with the issue, just wanted to let you know it happened. Ofcourse I made a backup before and after.

fix_permissions didn't solve. Gonna restore and try again. Btw I didn't freeze first, I just deleted. Doubt that's the reason though.

Protricity said:
fix_permissions didn't solve. Gonna restore and try again. Btw I didn't freeze first, I just deleted. Doubt that's the reason though.
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I'm sorry to hear that it's not working out so great for you. Glad to hear you did a backup first though.
It might be good to note, and I should have said it at the beginning, I did a fresh factory reset on my phone just before the S-OFF/Root procedure, and hadn't used any of the things I got rid of.
They were basically just deleted right off the phone before it got used.
Keep us updated on how it's going, and as info comes in i'll add what I can to help. Knowing what apps you got rid of specifically could narrow it down some, and what ones you used first might help as well.
Of course, restoring a backup eliminates the problem, and you may or may not be able to reproduce after - please let us know either way, and thanks for the input!
For our next trick, we're gonna dump HTC Sense.
Blue6IX said:
okay - sorry to post after myself but I got rid of kidzone.
First, I restored a CWM backup I made right after root/busybox installation.
So, my phone state is fresh S-OFF/Root with SU & busybox installed.
It may be important to note that I did a factory reset to my phone just before S-OFF/Root & had a freshly formatted MicroSD card.
I then installed ADW Launcher from the Market, and hit my "home" key. Selected "Use Default" and chose ADW Launcher.
Now my phone defaults to ADW as it's launcher.
I then installed "Absolute System" from the Market, and used it to remove "HTC Sense"
Closed out Absolute System, then scrolled between all 5 ADW desktop screens, powered down the phone, then powered up again. (*NOTE fastboot = off)
Booted fine, was able to ditch sense without issue, and KIDZONE IS GONE!
As always, make sure to do a fresh system backup before messing with anything like this, but Kidzone is linked to sense, and replacing sense with another launcher will remove it.
HTC Sense was the only app removed from the phone, and I haven't checked everything to make sure it works yet, but no HTC crash report to send, and no force close issues. (yet - to be determined)
I've been itching to ditch sense since I got the phone, and this was my first quick test at it. Works good so far.
Edit to add:
Checked the "personalize" option at the top of the "settings" list. This just brings you back to the main desktop, doesn't throw an error.
I knew this one thing would be messed up somehow after ditching sense, but the fact that it doesn't make a problem and just closes the menu is fine by me.
I'll spend the rest of the day testing out my phone without sense to see how it runs. I'll post back how it went tomorrow.
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Quoted myself from the kidzone thread, I want to put the info for slimming down my phones apps here.
I'm going to see how the phone runs on just the free version of ADW for a day, then see about coming up with a procedure to remove apps and keep it all stable in the process.
Happy modding!

Protricity said:
fix_permissions didn't solve. Gonna restore and try again. Btw I didn't freeze first, I just deleted. Doubt that's the reason though.
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Also, a thought. Boot to CWM and clear the dalvik cache.
I looked up some info on this since rooting the other day, and after uninstalling apps it's good to do to clear out the old app data. Something to consider - it might solve your problem.

Blue6IX said:
For our next trick, we're gonna dump HTC Sense
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Does the camera app still work after you deleted sense? I wouldn't want to lose that..

I froze "T-mobile Name ID" and everything seems to be working fine.
You might also want to mention that you can temp-root your device, then freeze these apps, and they will stay frozen after reboot. Just, for anyone that doesn't want to perma-root their device right now (like me). It's not very stable to perma-root your device right now. Just read that if your MT4GS dies and your perma-rooted, you will either have to buy a new battery or find a way to charge your battery without your phone... some issue with the HBoot... So till thats fixed, and till i'm sure things are stable. I'll stick with my Temp-Root

nldroid said:
Does the camera app still work after you deleted sense? I wouldn't want to lose that..
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The camera app still works, but I haven't used all the features.
I would assume this still does work completely, though, because this is only getting rid of the sense launcher, and not the underlying frameworks that power it. (which I hear the camera is dependent upon.)
A solid day of running ADW instead of sense as my launcher has been fine, i'll go play with the camera for a little while and get back to you with a more complete answer to this.

dansl said:
I froze "T-mobile Name ID" and everything seems to be working fine.
You might also want to mention that you can temp-root your device, then freeze these apps, and they will stay frozen after reboot. Just, for anyone that doesn't want to perma-root their device right now (like me). It's not very stable to perma-root your device right now. Just read that if your MT4GS dies and your perma-rooted, you will either have to buy a new battery or find a way to charge your battery without your phone... some issue with the HBoot... So till thats fixed, and till i'm sure things are stable. I'll stick with my Temp-Root
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This had to do with a charging issue using Clockworkmod 4.0.0.8 which is fixed with Clockworkmod 4.0.0.9.
I have personally run my battery to completely dead using CWM 4.0.0.9 and it charged up and booted fine.
Good to know that freezing apps stays after reboot on temp-root, that's an awesome find!

Also, just found this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1150805
Post by rmk40, talking about freezing bloatware apps on the HTC Sensation. There are some apps ppl have frozen on there that are also on the MT4GS. I'm going to look through it now and will check back later.

The Notes app from:
/system/app/androidnotes.apk
Is that it, or is there more in the /data folder?
I think it may be /data/data/com.marigold.android.notes
and /data/data/com.marigold.android.notes/databases/notes
But I don't want to delete it without being fully sure, can someone verify this for me?

nldroid said:
Does the camera app still work after you deleted sense? I wouldn't want to lose that..
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Yep, the camera app works completely. I tested all the modes, and used all the different manual settings in the last option. Nothing was broken, it was all fine.
Removing just the sense launcher and replacing it with something else has no impact on the camera, and I would imagine anything else that requires sense frameworks. We should test anything before making that blanket statement, though, but consider camera.apk to be tested and working without the sense launcher.
dansl said:
Also, just found this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1150805
Post by rmk40, talking about freezing bloatware apps on the HTC Sensation. There are some apps ppl have frozen on there that are also on the MT4GS. I'm going to look through it now and will check back later.
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That's awesome - while i'm busy re-inventing the wheel, way to pick up where someone else left off. I glanced through there quickly, but i'm kinda having fun figuring this out. I definitely look forward to hearing what you've learned browsing through, and i'll get there at some point.
Thanks clicked on that helpful post!
Sinfamy said:
The Notes app from:
/system/app/androidnotes.apk
Is that it, or is there more in the /data folder?
I think it may be /data/data/com.marigold.android.notes
and /data/data/com.marigold.android.notes/databases/notes
But I don't want to delete it without being fully sure, can someone verify this for me?
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Yep, you were right on. Delete the .apk in bold, then go delete the folder in bold. Once you delete the folder in /data/data, then your second line about the database in notes becomes moot, since it will have already been deleted.

Updated my list of stuff too (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16683780).
One thing i found that I couldn't quite figure out what is was for, is the Com.Redbend.SWM-C app. I've read that it might be used for tracking/analytics or DRM content... i dont know, but I froze it, and everything seems to be working fine still! I read someone had issues with Youtube, but youtube has been working fine for me.

thank you for this thread and thanks to dansl too. I was able to remove sense and a lot of the htc bloatware, making the phone a lot better.
I don't know what doubleshotandroidzipgroup was that was running in the background, but i froze it and it seems fine...

So it seems like this thread has been helping people, in conjunction with the other threads on the different aspects of this subject. I don't deal with freezing apps, it always seemed cleaner to me to just get rid of them.
I know in some cases that's not possible, maybe for us maybe not. I've sure learned a lot from this project, and from what people have discovered by freezing apps.
I want to take a moment to thank everyone who has contributed towards what we've learned here.
I took the time to really work out what has to be done to remove the various things we discovered, and the next few posts reflect the contributions everyone has made to this project.
Also, i'm hoping that this road map we are making will cut the time down it takes for developers to introduce roms for our device. Having the locations, and user test data of what you can dump should take some of their headache away. This is one of the motivations behind my trying to lay this all out like this, making it easier not only for us to use now, but for developers to refer to later.
Enjoy, i've had fun with it so far!

There was an initial surge of testing what could or could not be removed from the phone right after we got root, which has mostly passed now. Most of the obvious "I can get rid of this" stuff has been figured out, and the rest of the things we can safely get rid of will take a closer look and involve a bit of head scratching to figure out.
Meantime, I felt like it was a good idea to summarize what we know a bit, and come up with a good procedure for removing stuff that was both simple and stable. You could (and I, as well as others, have) delete(d) this stuff all at once without issue, but i'm more comfortable with a more cautious approach - and I know others will be too.
To that end, i've taken the time to test this method a few times, re-engineer it, tweak things, change the order up a bit, and finally lay it out here. We all pretty much want to get the most out of our phones, and for almost all of us here the "extras" pre-installed on our phones get in the way of this.
This'll be fun, and pretty painless - so - ready to remove some bloat?
Setup 1: We're going to go backwards in time a few steps. The ideal situation here is:
00 - Backup all phone data to somewhere off the phone itself.
01 - Factory reset phone, power down.
02 - Remove microsd card, format in computer.
03 - re-insert microsd card in phone, power on.
04 - Set up your Gmail account, enable the Market on your phone.
05 - S-OFF (if necessary), installing CWM 4.0.0.9 and Rooting your phone.
06 - Installing Busybox and Root Checker, verifying that both root and busybox are obtained/available on your phone.
07 - Uninstalling Busybox installer, checking Busybox installation in Root Checker again, then uninstalling Root Checker.
08 - Power down your phone, and boot into recovery mode.
09 - Make a CWM backup of your system in recovery, then rebooting your phone.
10 - (optional, but recommended) Making a copy of the CWM backup to another place, like your computer.
If you did/do it this way then you can always restore to a clean CWM backup from right after you got Root & Busybox on your phone, in the cleanest ready state it can be.
Otherwise, do a CWM backup of your system now, before following the instructions laid out below to be able to restore your phone if something goes wrong.
I'll try and help anyone who needs it if something doesn't go right, but please understand you do this at your own risk and backups are your best friend!
Setup 2: Tools.
01 - Install Root Explorer.
+ Other file managers may work with varying degrees of success, and there are some free alternatives, but nothing that will do the job like Root Explorer. I highly recommend this app, and if you're going to be doing this kind of stuff on your phone you should probably pick it up. You at least need a file manager capable of read/write access to your system folders, and that can copy and delete.
02 - Install Absolute System Root Tools.
+ Again, there are probably free alternatives out there, but this program is pretty awesome and I recommend it. You should have an app that lets you uninstall system apps, and lets you clear their data before uninstalling. One thing to note, is that it won't delete the .odex files of installed apps, so you'll have to go back and get them manually with Root Explorer.
03 - Before performing any steps listed below, you should make backups of all the files you will delete. I list the locations of everything so you can navigate to it with Root Explorer and copy the files somewhere else, like your sdcard. I would also go so far as to say you should make a CWM backup before attempting each of the steps below, but i'm overly cautious when it comes to backups - that's up to you.
(You could end up making changes in files you aren't working in, without realizing it. A Nandroid backup is the only way to ensure you can restore those files if that should happen)
** - Use Absolute System to uninstall .apk files listed below, and it will also get the /data/data location as well. You will have to go back and get the .odex files manually. If you choose not to use an app to uninstall the .apk files listed below, I wrote out their full path location so you can use Root Explorer to delete them manually.
** - Changes made to /system/etc are mirrored in /etc as soon as you make them. All changes made in /system/ are mirrored in the main directory in any corresponding folders or files in real-time as you make them.
** - I recommend removing all widgets and shortcuts/folders or any other items that may be on your desktop before starting this process. You can always put back anything that survives later when you are done.
** - It might be a good idea to turn off GPS, Mobile Networks, Bluetooth and Wi-Fi before proceeding. Optional, but recommended.
Feel free to skip any apps you want to keep along the way, and you don't necessarily have to go in order, but it'll be cleaner that way. Part of the organization behind it is to make it easy for the user to remember what they are doing, and break it down into smaller blocks so you'll lose less progress if something goes wrong.
Now that we're past all that, lets get down to business.

Part 1: Stock themes and wallpapers.
00 - Make sure your phone is set to the "System" theme before continuing (default theme). Then take a picture with your camera, or get a picture you like on your phone. Set this as your background wallpaper.
01 - Using Absolute System, uninstall the stock themes:
-com.tmobile.theme.Aubergine
+ /system/app/Aubergine.apk
+ /data/data/com.tmobile.theme.Aubergine
-com.tmobile.theme.Brooklyn
+ /system/app/Brooklyn.apk
+ /data/data/com.tmobile.theme.Brooklyn
-com.tmobile.theme.Jazz
+ /system/app/Jazz.apk
+ /data/data/com.tmobile.theme.Jazz
-com.tmobile.theme.Retro
+ /system/app/Retro.apk
+ /data/data/com.tmobile.theme.Retro
-com.tmobile.theme.Spring
+ /system/app/Spring.apk
+ /data/data/com.tmobile.theme.Spring
02 - Using Absolute System, uninstall the stock live wallpapers:
-com.android.wallpaper (Android Live Wallpapers)
+ /system/app/LiveWallpapers.apk
+ /data/data/com.android.wallpaper
-com.htc.android.wallpaper (HTC Sense Live Wallpaper)
+ /system/app/Mode10Wallpapers.apk
+ /data/data/com.htc.android.wallpaper
-com.htc.android.image_wallpaper (HTC Slide Show Wallpaper)
+ /system/app/HtcImageWallpaper.apk
+ /data/data/com.htc.android.image_wallpaper
-com.android.magicsmoke (Magic Smoke Wallpapers)
+ /system/app/MagicSmokeWallpapers.apk
+ /data/data/com.android.magicsmoke
-com.android.musicvis (Music Visualization Wallpapers)
+ /system/app/VisualizationWallpapers.apk
+ /data/data/com.android.musicvis
-com.htc.livewallpaper.streak (Streak Live Wallpaper)
+ /system/app/HTCLivewallpaperStreak.apk
+ /data/data/com.htc.livewallpaper.streak
Okay, we are done with Absolute System for the moment.
Fire up Root Explorer, and go to:
03 - /system/app/ (delete the files: )
-HtcImageWallpaper.odex
-HTCLivewallpaperStreak.odex
-LiveWallpapers.odex
-MagicSmokeWallpapers.odex
-Mode10Wallpapers.odex
-VisualizationWallpapers.odex
Still in Root Explorer, now go to:
04 - /system/customize/resource/ (delete the files: )
-htc_wallpaper_01.jpg
-htc_wallpaper_01_lockscreen.jpg
-htc_wallpaper_02.jpg
-htc_wallpaper_03.jpg
-htc_wallpaper_04.jpg
-htc_wallpaper_05.jpg
-htc_wallpaper_06.jpg
-tmo_wallpaper_01.png
-tmo_wallpaper_02.png
-tmo_wallpaper_03.png
-tmo_wallpaper_04.png
-tmo_wallpaper_05.png
-tmo_wallpaper_06.png
-tmo_wallpaper_grid_preview_01.png
-tmo_wallpaper_grid_preview_02.png
-tmo_wallpaper_grid_preview_03.png
-tmo_wallpaper_grid_preview_04.png
-tmo_wallpaper_grid_preview_05.png
-tmo_wallpaper_grid_preview_06.png
-tmo_wallpaper_preview_01.png
-tmo_wallpaper_preview_01_land.png
-tmo_wallpaper_preview_02.png
-tmo_wallpaper_preview_02_land.png
-tmo_wallpaper_preview_03.png
-tmo_wallpaper_preview_03_land.png
-tmo_wallpaper_preview_04.png
-tmo_wallpaper_preview_04_land.png
-tmo_wallpaper_preview_05.png
-tmo_wallpaper_preview_05_land.png
-tmo_wallpaper_preview_06.png
-tmo_wallpaper_preview_06_land.png
-wallpaper.jpg
-wallpaper.png
Still in Root Explorer, last place to go is:
05 - /system/etc/ (delete folder: )
-slideshow
(These are all the sample images for the HTC slideshow live wallpaper.)
06 - Exit Root Explorer, Reboot your phone to recovery. In CWM choose advanced and then "Wipe Dalvik Cache". Hit back and then "Wipe Cache Partition". Reboot your phone. (It will take a little while longer to boot since you wiped your cache, but not much)
After booting back up and making sure everything still works:
07 - Reboot into recovery, make a CWM Nandroid backup of your system. Make sure to back this up somewhere off the phone too.
Congratulations! You now have a recovery image of your phone with all of the stock themes and wallpapers removed.

[Root] [HD 10 Suez] Remove parental control applications/restrictions [May 2019]

I've tried to complete this mission a few times, each ending in disaster...until now.
Summary:
The parental control applications too are restrictive. Amazon made some slight changes to the Android code which gave these applications full, and in my opinion unnecessary control of the tablets and the security options. Disabling or uninstalling them can and will eventually cause you to reflash stock firmware. That's because they are labeled as "device/profile owner applications". Located in /data/system is 'device_owner.xml'. That file configures the apps as device/profile owners and doing anything to stop them results in a disaster, often unfixable without reflashing stock. The idea was to trick FireOS by switching device owner applications right from under it's nose. It's not easy but it is possible.
This will be along guide. one or two of these steps may not even be necessary but I am going to present them as I did them and was successful. Beyond that you are free to remove steps and try the process at your will. However any deviation from the guide can result in damage to your device. Even this guide may result in damage to your device, because not everyone's results will be the same. From here on out you are on your own and I am not responsible for any damage done to your devices. This will take some time, if you do not have it it is recommended you do not continue until you do. It will not be possible to pause for extended periods through this guide. This WILL REQUIRE a factory reset. You must be rooted or have an unlocked tablet to complete the guide. You must also have the Google play store and related services installed as system applications in priv-app folder. For this it's recommended to flash a pico Gapps package in TWRP.
THIS OPERATION WAS PERFORMED ON A DEVICE THAT WAS DEODEXED ON 5.6.1.0 WITH A 5.3.6.0 (LATEST FIREOS) BOOT IMAGE. This will not likely work on a stock ROM that has not been deodexed.
Instructions:
1. You need to download an application that uninstalls system applications. Any one of them will do so long as it works. You will absolutely need to download an application that does this. Also download a root file explorer.
2. Uninstall the application called 'Managed provisioning.' then open a shell using a terminal emulator or ADB. Then type the commands below.
Code:
adb shell
su
settings put global device_provisioned 0
3. Go to settings > security > device administrator and make sure Google pay is a device administrator. This is very important and you must not miss this step.
4. Using a root explorer, go to /data/system and copy device_owner.xml to your internal storage. If using your PC please use Notepad++, though it's recommended you complete the following tasks on your device.
4b. Go to system/etc/permissions/ and open handheld_core_hardware.xml in a text editor. Find the line that says: <!-- feature name="android.software.managed_users" --> and replace that line with the one below, save the file and reboot:
Code:
<feature name="android.software.managed_users" />
5. Then go to your internal storage and open the file device_owner.xml in a text editor. Replace the lines of text with the text below, making sure the format is NOT changed from the original and save the file:
Code:
<profile-owner package="com.google.android.gms" name="Google Play services" userId="0" component="com.google.android.gms/com.google.android.gms.mdm.receivers.MdmDeviceAdminReceiver" />
6. NOTE: this step CANNOT be done in TWRP. Again Using a root explorer, copy and paste device_owner.xml to /data/system, overwriting the current one (remember to back up the original). Set permissions to rw (0600) and reboot. If there are no errors or popups and your home and recents button still work after rebooting, continue to the next step.
7. Reboot to recovery and clear/wipe cache and dalvik and reboot system. When booted, if no pop errors from anything, open the uninstaller app you downloaded and uninstall Parental Controls and Parental monitoring. Again reboot to recovery and wipe cache and dalvik and reboot system.
8. Again if no errors, reboot to recovery again and this time do a factory reset. This step is very important and cannot be missed. It is absolutely required that the data be wiped on the device or the device and system will recognize it is no longer owner of said device and it will start shutting you out of security and other options on the device.
9. When rebooted, Open the shell in terminal emulator again or ADB and type the following command below. A reboot should not be necessary when done:
Code:
su
settings put global device_provisioned 1
10. Download an activity launcher (I use activity manager and yes you need to pay a slight fee to use the root part of the launcher, but it's worth it.) Scroll settings and search for 'generic lockscreen set' and long press it to open it with root access. All of your lock screen options should be open and available to you even after removing the parental applications. If they are congratulations you have now remove parental applications and the restrictions that came with them from your device. Go back to /data/system and you will also notice that the device_owner.xml is gone. Killing 2 birds with one stone. If any lockscreen options are blocked then you have failed to properly remove the parental applications and the policies that go along with them.
NOTE: You may need to deactivate 'smart lock' and trusted gms as that may interfere with some lock screen options.
I'll let you guys decide, but I think the device is vastly improved in terms of performance and in Internet connectability after removing these applications.

Edit: forgot a step. Can't believe I did that.
Sent from my Amazon KFSUWI using XDA Labs

I must have goofed. I did a factory reset and now my tablet is back to stock. lol
Edit: I take that back. I tap on parental controls and nothing happens lol
Edit2: Yep It's running good. You were right too. It seems like it runs a lot smoother without amazon's parental controls.

Shadow Death said:
I must have goofed. I did a factory reset and now my tablet is back to stock. lol
Edit: I take that back. I tap on parental controls and nothing happens lol
Edit2: Yep It's running good. You were right too. It seems like it runs a lot smoother without amazon's parental controls.
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Cuz I'm pretty sure without the support of manage profiles, the parental applications actually cut down on a Wi-Fi speed. I don't think it's cutting short the connection, rather the metrics and scripts associated with other apps and configs, cause it to constantly disconnect and reconnect. also fireOS doesn't like when you have more than one network saved at a time, in the same area. You can also delete etc/wifiloglevels.sh if you are on the deodexed rom. Can also set the value of the line in build prop for wifi rssi levels to ""

Shadow Death said:
I must have goofed. I did a factory reset and now my tablet is back to stock. lol
Edit: I take that back. I tap on parental controls and nothing happens lol
Edit2: Yep It's running good. You were right too. It seems like it runs a lot smoother without amazon's parental controls.
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Add: you Dan probably reinstall the managed provisioning app. It might let you create a work profile I am not sure. I am going to experiment with that more tomorrow.

I'd like to add that I am on the same battery cycle as the other day when I started this process at 65%. I haven't been as aggressive in my use as much as normal this weekend but I haven't had to put it on the charger all well and usually I have to do that a few times a week if I really use it.

I forgot to mention that step 4 and possibly 5 seem jumbled.

Shadow Death said:
I forgot to mention that step 4 and possibly 5 seem jumbled.
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Are you using the app?

DragonFire1024 said:
Are you using the app?
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I'm not sure what app you mean. What I meant was this part:
Using a root explorer, go to /data/system and copy device_owner.xml to your internal storage and open it in a text editor. If using your PC please use Notepad++, though it's recommended you complete the following tasks on your device. Open system/etc/permissions/handheld_core_hardware.xml in a text editor.
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Shadow Death said:
I'm not sure what app you mean. What I meant was this part:
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I'll fix it tomorrow. Thanks.

DragonFire1024 said:
I'll fix it tomorrow. Thanks.
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I figured out what you meant but I thought I would point it out just in case others can't.

Shadow Death said:
I figured out what you meant but I thought I would point it out just in case others can't.
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Worded it a bit better and broke it apart somewhat. I definitely saw where one would get lost right there. Good eyes!

Hi Dragon Fire,
Is it now working ok? I have the HD8 (7th generation) and would like to eliminate the restrictions of the parental control.

masterted said:
Hi Dragon Fire,
Is it now working ok? I have the HD8 (7th generation) and would like to eliminate the restrictions of the parental control.
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Every thing is working so far as I can see. There is a slight delay with some apps that require a lock screen be activated for them to work. I use a WiFi app my provider provides and it requires a screen lock. It failed to recognize it at first. Clearing the providers app cache and restarting it worked.
Sent from my Droid RAZR M using XDA Labs

Hi guys, I got a couple questions about this process...
Could someone who did it already check to see if it is possible to change the language of the tablet? On my own tablet, I get a message about parental controls being required, however my own tablet was rooted and debloated a different way last year. In my case, I don't care about changing the language, and I'm totally satisfied with the results I got.
I ask because I'd like to do this "stock Android look & feel" process for a friend (they do not even have an Amazon account, nor want one), but they need to be able to switch language between English and Spanish on a regular basis, and I don't want to mess up their tablet with mods that would prevent this.
Thanks for any insights you guys might have on this... really appreciate the hard work and vast knowledge represented here on XDA.

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