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In addition to the standard Market Fix to get protected applications working (clearing cache/data), we also need to trick Google to think we have a Tegra 2 device.
We simply need to change the following line in /system/build.prop
ro.product.device=olympus
This tells Google Market we are using a Motorola Atrix 4G and will give us the missing Tegra 2 apps when applying our market fix.
However, since we are mimicking a phone, Tablet specific apps will not show up (NYTimes app for Tablets is an example)
Cheers!
Edit:
It is well known that the Google Web Market is hit and miss on our GTablets. This thread indicates it may take a few days for our tablet's to show up on the web interface. However, what this fix does is allow you to download most of the Froyo + Tegra2 apps via the Market Application within our tablets. There will be applications that will refuse to install through the web market interface (if your tablet can actually show up on the darn thing) because of missing capabilities, but will install just fine via the Market app.
If you want to install apps using a web browser from your Desktop computer, I recommend the use of Appbrain to generate your list of desired apps and then syncing your list on the tablet to install.
Hi,
SUPER!!
This build.prop change, just by itself, on stock 3588, allows me to see a bunch of apps I haven't been able to see before, including Firefox, Flash, Tank Hero, etc. Didn't have to do anything else, no fingerprint changes, etc.
Thanks!
Jim
AWESOME! The only thing I can't find is message ease which is no great loss and I'm not seeing it on the web either -- I think they are pulling it on and off the market. But YES -- Laucher Pro, Saumari, Silver Creek games, Flash 10.2, tv.com, both opera browsers, dolphin HD -- all there. FANTASTIC. THANK YOU!
Even Vlingo shows up which was never found before. Truth is I don't even want it but it was one of my indicators.
wd5gnr said:
AWESOME! The only thing I can't find is message ease which is no great loss and I'm not seeing it on the web either -- I think they are pulling it on and off the market.
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Are you looking for MessagEase?
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.exideas.mekb
Whoops! Helps if you spell it right. I always think that should be a faster keyboard but then I give up and go back to BetterKeyboard or the word predicting one which is great until you need to do Linux command lines and such.
Sorry for the confusion. I even found Astro Bluetooth Module another I used to have to switch for. Very cool.
Hmmm... the market.android.com site no longer shows my device since I made the above fix! It only shows my older device. I tried just clearing the market cache and rerunning but no go. I am now running the regular market fix (clear cache in market, stop, clear data in service framework, stop, reboot).
I did install things off the market, but it had to be from the device.
Ok tablet is booted back up.... drum roll....
Nope. And now I am -- for now -- only showing my paid apps off the market, none of the freebies I had previously installed.
UPDATE: I killed the market data and cache along with the service framework data and rebooted. This made no difference to the web site (unless it takes time for it to catch up) but it did -- after installing something else -- restore my existing apps. On the other hand, having the market working on the device beats the web site, but it still means something is "off".
How do we request this be made a sticky?
I know I've tried just about every market tweak for the last 3+ months and this is the only 1 that made a huge diff.
Jim
I haven't tried this fix (heck I don't even know how to apply it, someone mind helping a noob out?) but I had the same problem you did where the web market doesn't show your device. I tried spamming the regular market fix and still no good.
However I logged back into the web store today and it showed my device, weird.
Not sure how to fix it but yesterday I changed my password so I was forced to sign in again. Of course that didn't work at the moment but I guess it worked since I can now see my device now.
Hope this helped.
wd5gnr said:
Hmmm... the market.android.com site no longer shows my device since I made the above fix! It only shows my older device. I tried just clearing the market cache and rerunning but no go. I am now running the regular market fix (clear cache in market, stop, clear data in service framework, stop, reboot).
I did install things off the market, but it had to be from the device.
Ok tablet is booted back up.... drum roll....
Nope. And now I am -- for now -- only showing my paid apps off the market, none of the freebies I had previously installed.
UPDATE: I killed the market data and cache along with the service framework data and rebooted. This made no difference to the web site (unless it takes time for it to catch up) but it did -- after installing something else -- restore my existing apps. On the other hand, having the market working on the device beats the web site, but it still means something is "off".
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Yeah I tried logging out of the web site and back in. I've tried forcing a google account sync. And I've tried making sure Talk is running (apparently the website uses talk to send things to your device.).
Just for fun I put my ro.product.name/device/board back to Vega and with no reboot or anything the web site immediately found the device.... curious....
Well now that I'm back on the web site, my market is back to how it was even after I put the olympus line in. Getting too late. Will look at it tomorrow :-(
Hachi2Go said:
I haven't tried this fix (heck I don't even know how to apply it, someone mind helping a noob out?) but I had the same problem you did where the web market doesn't show your device. I tried spamming the regular market fix and still no good.
However I logged back into the web store today and it showed my device, weird.
Not sure how to fix it but yesterday I changed my password so I was forced to sign in again. Of course that didn't work at the moment but I guess it worked since I can now see my device now.
Hope this helped.
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I did the change by:
- get temp root via z4root
- make /system R/W via root explorer
- start a terminal
- cd /system
- Edit build.prop: busybox vi build.prop
- did regular market fix
- reboot
Jim
wd5gnr said:
Hmmm... the market.android.com site no longer shows my device since I made the above fix! It only shows my older device. I tried just clearing the market cache and rerunning but no go. I am now running the regular market fix (clear cache in market, stop, clear data in service framework, stop, reboot).
I did install things off the market, but it had to be from the device.
Ok tablet is booted back up.... drum roll....
Nope. And now I am -- for now -- only showing my paid apps off the market, none of the freebies I had previously installed.
UPDATE: I killed the market data and cache along with the service framework data and rebooted. This made no difference to the web site (unless it takes time for it to catch up) but it did -- after installing something else -- restore my existing apps. On the other hand, having the market working on the device beats the web site, but it still means something is "off".
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You're right that having market work on the device beats the website! The web market issues may be a whole separate battle.
Jim
jimcpl said:
I did the change by:
- get temp root via z4root
- make /system R/W via root explorer
- start a terminal
- cd /system
- Edit build.prop: busybox vi build.prop
- did regular market fix
- reboot
Jim
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I'm quite new to the Android OS so I'm not really sure how to do this.
I installed z4root and got temp root. I'm not sure if I needed it as I read somewhere that Vegan 5.1.1 (which I am using) gives me root already.
But I installed it and ran it anyways.
I'm stuck on giving my /system read and write permissions. Is this 'root explorer' app needed? Or can I use my 'iFileExplorer' app to do so, if so how? (It came with the vegan ROM)
Not sure if you meant to type ifileManger, but it will not get you write permissions. Root explorer will allow you to write. It looks as though you may have to
open a terminal up as discussed above, to change the build prop.
Hachi2Go said:
I'm quite new to the Android OS so I'm not really sure how to do this.
I installed z4root and got temp root. I'm not sure if I needed it as I read somewhere that Vegan 5.1.1 (which I am using) gives me root already.
But I installed it and ran it anyways.
I'm stuck on giving my /system read and write permissions. Is this 'root explorer' app needed? Or can I use my 'iFileExplorer' app to do so, if so how? (It came with the vegan ROM)
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Hachi2Go said:
I'm quite new to the Android OS so I'm not really sure how to do this.
I installed z4root and got temp root. I'm not sure if I needed it as I read somewhere that Vegan 5.1.1 (which I am using) gives me root already.
But I installed it and ran it anyways.
I'm stuck on giving my /system read and write permissions. Is this 'root explorer' app needed? Or can I use my 'iFileExplorer' app to do so, if so how? (It came with the vegan ROM)
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Hi,
If you don't have root explorer, there's a free app on market called something like "system mount r/w" that is free that will mount /system as r/w for you. Or, I think that you can do it using a terminal and a mount command (something like mount -remount....).
Normal file explorers won't do the remount.
Jim
mount -o remount,rw /system /system
Watch out for the spaces and you need to be root so do an su command first.
When done, repear the mount command but use ro instead of rw. You can do this with a terminal program or the adb.
Root Explorer is what, $3.99? Worth it for the time savings. I bought the Ti Pro too. $300+ on a tablet...spend $9 on some software to make life easier.
iam a noob. i have stock rom 3588. how do i get market working?
By the light of morning I got back to a full market! But it again broke the web site connection. Is anyone seeing this behavior? Or is it just me?
For the new guys.
1) This appears like it MAY break your connection with the market web site [Update: Wait a few hours and it appears to catch up with you]. It may have other unknown effects. If you are not comfortable with making mods you might wait until more people have reported success or failure with this. For the record I did NOT find this fix (thanks Isira -- see OP of this thread). Just writing up my take on what you need to do. This applies to VEGAn 5.1.1 with supplement. It has been noted that with a stock rom you may need to put "busybox" before commands like cp (which you don't need to use if you have Root Explorer, by the way). If you get this to work (or not) on a different ROM, report it in this thread.
2) That being said, you need a file explorer that will look at / and edit text files, an su utility (comes with your root kit; as far as I know all the custom ROMs are pre rooted) and a command shell/terminal. Or you could spring a few bucks and get Root Explorer which is well worth it and does all of these things. Others have suggested Absolute Root tools which I do not know about. You could also use adb for all of it (which is what I did) but if you know how to do that, you probably don't need me to tell you what to do. We will be changing your build.prop file in the /system directory.
IF YOU ARE NOT USING ROOT EXPLORER GO DOWN TO STEP 3B. IF YOU ARE, GO TO STEP 3A.
3A) Open root explorer. Find /system and press the "Mount R/W" button.
4A) Long press on build.prop and select Copy. Then navigate somewhere like /mnt/sdcard and press the paste button at the bottom of the screen. This is your backup. Please backup.
5A) Go back to /system
6A) Long press on build.prop again. The menu is scrollable. You want Open in Text Editor.
7A) Find the line that says ro.product.device=XXXX (where XXXX is probably Vega). Make it read:
ro.product.device=olympus
Don't change anything else.
8A) Save the file by pressing the menu key and selecting Save & Exit.
9A) Scroll to the top of the /system directory and press the Mount R/O button.
10A) Reboot your tablet. Wait for things to settle down on restart. Open Market. Look for Saumari 2. Look for LauncherPro, Opera Mobile, etc. It will all be there.
If you don't have root explorer:
3B) Open the terminal. At the prompt, enter (spaces and lower case matter):
su
mount -o remount,rw /system /system
HINT: If you think you will do this a lot grab Script Manager off of the market. You can put the mount line in a script, tell it to execute as root (which is the same as su) and then you can run the script when you want to make changes.
4B) Start your file manager and find the /system directory. Your file manager probably starts in /sdcard or /mnt/sdcard. You'll need to go "up" a directory or two to root and then back down. Either way, when you find it, make a backup copy of build.prop somewhere you can write to. Seriously. Do not skip this step. Make the copy.
5B) Edit build.prop. You are looking for a line that sys ro.product.device=XXXX (probably Vega; I don't know about other ROMs and if this works for other ROMs but for VEGAn 5.1.1 its Vega). Carefully replace whatever you have as XXXX to olympus. So the line should read:
ro.product.device=olympus
Note: Some of us had other changes to build.prop. Not clear if these had any effect or not.
6B) Save your changes. If your file explorer is not root, you probably need to save the file to where you can write (your sdcard for example) and the copy from a terminal, such as:
su
cp /mnt/sdcard/new-buildprop.txt /system/build.prop
or
su
busybox cp /mnt/sdcard/new-buildprop.txt /system/build.prop
7B) Open your terminal and enter:
su
mount -o remount,ro /system /system
Remember spaces and case count! Also if you are in the same terminal window as before you don't have to keep entering su since you stay root.
NOTES FOR BOTH SETS OF INSTRUCTIONS
I did the original market fix after saving the file, but some people say it is not necessary. But at least a few people have said they don't see much or anything in market until the redo the fix (the one where you delete the market cache and the google services framework data and reboot).
Things that appear to work:
1) Installing free programs
2) Updating existing programs
3) Amazon market web site oddly enough
4) The official market Web site AFTER WAITING SEVERAL HOURS
5) Buying an app off the build in application
Some of us had other changes to build.prop but I don't think any of them were significant. If you have trouble you might apply it (shouldn't hurt). Also, if your "my apps" only shows your paid apps (or nothing if you have no paid apps), try downloading anything off the market and that will usually restore it. There is also an update local cache key that might do the trick, but loading some freebie off the market is easier. Also check to make sure gtalk is logged in. You can try forcing a resync on your Google accounts (in the main menu under Accounts).
Hope that helps someone. Its early so I probably made mistakes and will edit any that are found.
wd5gnr,
I don't know how "unusual" it is, but on my Gtab, where I had 3452 for awhile, then now 3588, I've always noted that I don't have a "cp" command, so I have to use "busybox cp".
Just FYI, in case anyone encounters this when they try your instructions.
Jim
wd5gnr said:
By the light of morning I got back to a full market! But it again broke the web site connection. Is anyone seeing this behavior? Or is it just me?
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Based on this thread ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=941205 ), it seems it may take a few days for the tablets to register on the market.
I have 3 tablets and I'm trying to change the identifier for each tablet through the ro.product.model and seeing if each of the tablets will show up on the market. So far, only one tablet is showing on the web market, but it's still using the old ro.product.model identifier (GTablet-TnT-Lite).
However, the web market is still pretty wonky. Certain apps may refuse to install through the web market because of missing capabilities on our tablets, but will install just fine through the market app.
UPDATE/EDIT: September 12th, 2011 -
I am depreciating this thread and will no longer check on or support it. For more information on this topic:
See MT4GS Stock App Encyclopedia for information about the apps themselves.
See Bloater to make stock app removal easier then you could ever imagine it being.
UPDATE/EDIT: August 21st, 2011 -
Posts 19 through 25 are a summary and how-to of what we have learned about removing apps from the stock rooted rom so far. Skip ahead if you want, otherwise the thread is a good read all the way through.
Now that we have a working S-OFF/Root procedure, a lot of us want to kill some of the stuff that came pre-loaded on our phones.
Root is required, and performing a backup through Clockworkmod is a necessity as well. Both backup and restore actions have been tested and working in CWM 4.0.0.9.
I am not responsible for what happens to your device after removing these files, so make sure you make a CWM backup BEFORE you start mucking around with this.
Some other threads that have been dealing with this for this device are Here, Here and Here. I would like to thank the people who have contributed, and continue to do so in those threads. I made this one in "themes and apps", as I think that people in the future coming in will look here first and this may cut down future confusion and questions.
There are a couple of ways you can accomplish this, but i'll start with the (almost) longest way. See the bottom of the post for other options.
We will be using a file manager to accomplish this task, "File Expert", free from the Google market. (I recommend "Root Explorer", a paid app, but if you've come this far you should get it at some point).
You will need to hit options, choose more, then Mount. Select "Mount as Read Write" to be able to delete the files/folders.
Listed below are the apps and what you have to delete to remove them.
Archived to code tags to make the post smaller. The summaries I wrote out are full page further in the thread, so it's easier to see the whole process.
Themes:
Code:
Aubergine
/system/app/aubergine.apk
/data/data/com.tmobile.theme.aubergine
Brooklyn
/system/app/Brooklyn.apk
/data/data/com.tmobile.theme.brooklyn
Jazz
/system/app/Jazz.apk
/data/data/com.tmobile.theme.jazz
Retro
/system/app/Retro.apk
/data/data/com.tmobile.theme.retro
Spring
/system/app/Spring.apk
/data/data/com.tmobile.theme.spring
Live Wallpapers
/system/app/LiveWallpapers.apk
/system/app/LiveWallpapers.odex
/data/data/com.android.wallpaper
Magic Smoke Wallpapers
/system/app/MagicSmokeWallpapers.apk
/system/app/MagicSmokeWallpapers.odex
/data/data/com.android.magicsmoke
Music Visualization Wallpapers
/system/app/VisualizationWallpapers.apk
/system/app/VisualizationWallpapers.odex
/data/data/com.android.musicvis
Sense Live Wallpaper
/system/app/Mode10Wallpapers.apk
/system/app/Mode10Wallpapers.odex
/data/data/com.htc.android.wallpaper
Streak Live Wallpaper
/system/app/HTCLivewallpaperStreak.apk
/system/app/HTCLivewallpaperStreak.odex
/data/data/com.htc.livewallpaper.streak
Weather Live Wallpaper
/system/app/HtcWeatherWallpaper.apk
/system/app/HtcWeatherWallpaper.odex
/data/data/com.htc.WeatherWallpaper
Widgets:
Code:
HTC Widget Download Manager
/system/app/WidgetDownloadManager.apk
/system/app/WidgetDownloadManager.odex
/data/data/com.htc.wdm
Bookmark Widget
/system/app/htcbookmarkwidget3d.apk
/system/app/htcbookmarkwidget3d.odex
/data/data/com.htc.fusion.htcbookmarkwidget
Calculator Widget
/system/app/htcCalculatorWidget.apk
/system/app/htcCalculatorWidget.odex
/data/data/com.htc.android.fusion.calculator
Calendar Widget
/system/app/htccalendarwidgets3d.apk
/system/app/htccalendarwidgets3d.odex
/data/data/com.htc.htccalendarwidgets
Clock Widget
/system/app/htcclock3dwidget.apk
/system/app/htcclock3dwidget.odex
/data/data/com.htc.clock3dwidget
FM Radio Widget
/system/app/com.htc.FMRadioWidget.apk
/system/app/com.htc.FMRadioWidget.odex
/data/data/com.htc.FMRadioWidget
Friend Stream Widget
/system/app/com.htc.FriendStream3DWidget.apk
/system/app/com.htc.FriendStream3DWidget.odex
/data/data/com.htc.FriendStream3DWidget
Mail Widget
/system/app/htcmailwidgets3d.apk
/system/app/htcmailwidgets3d.odex
/data/data/com.htc.htcmailwidgets
Messages Widget
/system/app/com.htc.htcmsgwidgets3d.apk
/system/app/com.htc.htcmsgwidgets3d.odex
/data/data/com.htc.htcmsgwidgets3d
Music Widget
/system/app/com.htc.MusicWidget.apk
/system/app/com.htc.MusicWidget.odex
/data/data/com.htc.MusicWidget3D
Photo Widget
/system/app/HtcPhotoWidget.apk
/system/app/HtcPhotoWidget.odex
/data/data/com.htc.photowidget3d
Setup Widget
/system/app/HtcSetupWidget.apk
/system/app/HtcSetupWidget.odex
/data/data/com.htc.setupwidget
Sync Widget
/system/app/com.htc.Sync3Dwidget.apk
/system/app/com.htc.Sync3Dwidget.odex
/data/data/com.htc.Sync3DWidget
Tips for Home Widget
/system/app/HtcTipWidget.apk
/system/app/HtcTipWidget.odex
/data/data/com.htc.rosiewidgets.tip
Trends Widget
/system/app/com.htc.TrendsWidget.apk
/system/app/com.htc.TrendsWidget.odex
/data/data/com.htc.Trends3DWidget
Twitter Widget
/system/app/com.htc.Twitter3DWidget.apk
/system/app/com.htc.Twitter3DWidget.odex
/data/data/com.htc.Twitter3DWidget
Weather Widget
/system/app/HtcWeather3DWidget.apk
/system/app/HtcWeather3DWidget.odex
/data/data/com.htc.widget3d.weather
System-Type Apps:
Code:
App Sharing
/system/app/appsharing.apk
/system/app/appsharing.odex
/data/data/com.htc.appsharing
AppPack
/system/app/MallLite-4.0.92.apk
/data/data/com.tmobile.appack
Backup
/system/app/MobileBackup.apk
/data/data/com.voxmobile.sync.mobilebackup2
Calculator
/system/app/calculator.apk
/system/app/calculator.odex
/data/data/com.android.calculator2
Home Screen Tips
/system/app/Protips.apk
/system/app/Protips.odex
/data/data/com.android.protips
Setup
/system/app/HTCSetupWizard.apk
/system/app/HTCSetupWizard.odex
/data/data/com.htc.android.htcsetupwizard
Swype
/system/app/Swype.apk
/data/data/com.swype.android.inputmethod
T Mobile Device Carbon
/system/app/TmobileAndroidDeviceCarbon-c42-n123.apk
/data/data/com.zipwhip.devicecarbon.tmobile
T Mobile TV
/system/app/com.mobitv.client.tmobiletvhd
/data/data/com.mobitv.client.tmobiletvhd
Video Chat
/system/app/qik.apk
/data/data/com.qiktmobile.android
Apps:
Code:
Adobe Reader
/system/app/AdobeReader.apk
/data/data/com.adobe.reader
Bejeweled 2
/system/app/Bejeweled2_trust5.apk
/data/data/com.eamobile.bejeweled2_small
DT-Sync
/system/app/desktopPointer-signed-v6.apk
/data/data/com.doubletwist.desktopPointer
Facebook
/system/app/HtcFacebook.apk
/system/app/HtcFacebook.odex
/data/data/com.htc.socialnetwork.facebook
Flickr
/system/app/flickr.apk
/system/app/flickr.odex
/data/data/com.htc.socialnetwork.flickr
Friend Stream
/system/app/FriendStream.apk
/system/app/FriendStream.odex
/data/data/com.htc.friendstream
Media Room
/system/app/MediaRoom.apk
/system/app/MediaRoom.odex
/data/data/com.htc.MediaLauncher
Netflix
/system/app/netflix-17-release-android-marketplace-upgrade.apk
/data/data/com.netflix.mediaclient
Peep
/system/app/HtcTwitter.apk
/system/app/HtcTwitter.odex
/data/data/com.htc.htctwitter
PhotoGrid
/system/app/HtcPhotoGridWidget3D.apk
/system/app/HtcPhotoGridWidget3D.odex
/data/data/com.htc.rosiewidgets.photogridwidget3d
Polaris Office
/system/app/PolarisOffice.apk
/data/data/com.infraware.docmaster
Slacker Radio
/system/app/slackerradio.apk
/data/data/com.slacker.radio
Telenav GPS Navigator
/system/app/TMOUS_Navigator.apk
/data/data/com.telenav.app.android.telenav
Zinio Reader
/system/app/ZinioReader.v2.03.3312.Regular.apk
/data/data/com.zinio.mobile.android
ZS Provider
/system/app/ZinioSettingsProvider.v2.03.3198.TMobile.Smartphone.apk
/data/data/com.zinio.android.settings
I have removed all of these apps from my system, and it still runs fine. No problems.
You may get a crash report to send to HTC while removing some of these things (I denied it), but you can ignore it. You will get them it when removing themes for sure.
I don't see why using an app to remove these (like Absolute System) would be an issue - just make sure to go back and manually delete the .odex files, as such apps probably won't get them.
And, of course, you could always use a terminal emulator to (rm) remove the files/folders manually.
Also, for the more adventurous: (but it wasn't a problem)
Internet
/system/app/Browser.apk
/system/app/Browser.odex
/data/data/com.android.browser
(I replaced with "Opera Mobile" by Opera Software ASA - Free app)
Mail
/system/app/mail.apk
/system/app/mail.odex
/data/data/com.htc.android.mail
(Removing mail does not prevent GMAIL from working correctly)
Music
/system/app/HtcMusic.apk
/system/app/HtcMusic.odex
/data/data/com.htc.music
Music Enhancer
/system/app/HtcMusicEnhancer.apk
/system/app/HtcMusicEnhancer.odex
/data/data/com.htc.musicenhancer
(I replaced with "Android Music" by JRTStudio - Free app)
If anyone else finds things they can safely remove, please post it for others to play with.
Have fun!
deleted most of those and got
'uids on the system are inconsistent' every time on boot
careful...
Can you list which ones you removed to cause that?
Also, were you using a theme that you deleted?
CWM backup is vital when starting to mess with this - I haven't had to restore due to system issues.
I'd love to try to duplicate your problem on my phone to find a fix. Thanks!
I prefer not to actually delete apps in case I ever want to unroot (though this probably isn't that likely but still) and I understand that by doing so, those apps need to be present. if any of you are interested, there is a free app on the market that I discovered. just search "antek" in the market and it freezes whatever bloatware you have so that it no longer runs in the background and should you want to recover it, all you do is just "defrost" it and it runs exactly as it did before. I've saved loads of battery by using this.
I'm using a custom theme that wasn't deleted. I understand that I could get the cyanogenmod fix_permissions script to fix this, but haven't located it yet.
I stuck to your list before this happened except for swype and a few others.
Wasn't looking for help with the issue, just wanted to let you know it happened. Ofcourse I made a backup before and after.
fix_permissions didn't solve. Gonna restore and try again. Btw I didn't freeze first, I just deleted. Doubt that's the reason though.
Protricity said:
fix_permissions didn't solve. Gonna restore and try again. Btw I didn't freeze first, I just deleted. Doubt that's the reason though.
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I'm sorry to hear that it's not working out so great for you. Glad to hear you did a backup first though.
It might be good to note, and I should have said it at the beginning, I did a fresh factory reset on my phone just before the S-OFF/Root procedure, and hadn't used any of the things I got rid of.
They were basically just deleted right off the phone before it got used.
Keep us updated on how it's going, and as info comes in i'll add what I can to help. Knowing what apps you got rid of specifically could narrow it down some, and what ones you used first might help as well.
Of course, restoring a backup eliminates the problem, and you may or may not be able to reproduce after - please let us know either way, and thanks for the input!
For our next trick, we're gonna dump HTC Sense.
Blue6IX said:
okay - sorry to post after myself but I got rid of kidzone.
First, I restored a CWM backup I made right after root/busybox installation.
So, my phone state is fresh S-OFF/Root with SU & busybox installed.
It may be important to note that I did a factory reset to my phone just before S-OFF/Root & had a freshly formatted MicroSD card.
I then installed ADW Launcher from the Market, and hit my "home" key. Selected "Use Default" and chose ADW Launcher.
Now my phone defaults to ADW as it's launcher.
I then installed "Absolute System" from the Market, and used it to remove "HTC Sense"
Closed out Absolute System, then scrolled between all 5 ADW desktop screens, powered down the phone, then powered up again. (*NOTE fastboot = off)
Booted fine, was able to ditch sense without issue, and KIDZONE IS GONE!
As always, make sure to do a fresh system backup before messing with anything like this, but Kidzone is linked to sense, and replacing sense with another launcher will remove it.
HTC Sense was the only app removed from the phone, and I haven't checked everything to make sure it works yet, but no HTC crash report to send, and no force close issues. (yet - to be determined)
I've been itching to ditch sense since I got the phone, and this was my first quick test at it. Works good so far.
Edit to add:
Checked the "personalize" option at the top of the "settings" list. This just brings you back to the main desktop, doesn't throw an error.
I knew this one thing would be messed up somehow after ditching sense, but the fact that it doesn't make a problem and just closes the menu is fine by me.
I'll spend the rest of the day testing out my phone without sense to see how it runs. I'll post back how it went tomorrow.
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Quoted myself from the kidzone thread, I want to put the info for slimming down my phones apps here.
I'm going to see how the phone runs on just the free version of ADW for a day, then see about coming up with a procedure to remove apps and keep it all stable in the process.
Happy modding!
Protricity said:
fix_permissions didn't solve. Gonna restore and try again. Btw I didn't freeze first, I just deleted. Doubt that's the reason though.
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Also, a thought. Boot to CWM and clear the dalvik cache.
I looked up some info on this since rooting the other day, and after uninstalling apps it's good to do to clear out the old app data. Something to consider - it might solve your problem.
Blue6IX said:
For our next trick, we're gonna dump HTC Sense
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Does the camera app still work after you deleted sense? I wouldn't want to lose that..
I froze "T-mobile Name ID" and everything seems to be working fine.
You might also want to mention that you can temp-root your device, then freeze these apps, and they will stay frozen after reboot. Just, for anyone that doesn't want to perma-root their device right now (like me). It's not very stable to perma-root your device right now. Just read that if your MT4GS dies and your perma-rooted, you will either have to buy a new battery or find a way to charge your battery without your phone... some issue with the HBoot... So till thats fixed, and till i'm sure things are stable. I'll stick with my Temp-Root
nldroid said:
Does the camera app still work after you deleted sense? I wouldn't want to lose that..
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The camera app still works, but I haven't used all the features.
I would assume this still does work completely, though, because this is only getting rid of the sense launcher, and not the underlying frameworks that power it. (which I hear the camera is dependent upon.)
A solid day of running ADW instead of sense as my launcher has been fine, i'll go play with the camera for a little while and get back to you with a more complete answer to this.
dansl said:
I froze "T-mobile Name ID" and everything seems to be working fine.
You might also want to mention that you can temp-root your device, then freeze these apps, and they will stay frozen after reboot. Just, for anyone that doesn't want to perma-root their device right now (like me). It's not very stable to perma-root your device right now. Just read that if your MT4GS dies and your perma-rooted, you will either have to buy a new battery or find a way to charge your battery without your phone... some issue with the HBoot... So till thats fixed, and till i'm sure things are stable. I'll stick with my Temp-Root
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This had to do with a charging issue using Clockworkmod 4.0.0.8 which is fixed with Clockworkmod 4.0.0.9.
I have personally run my battery to completely dead using CWM 4.0.0.9 and it charged up and booted fine.
Good to know that freezing apps stays after reboot on temp-root, that's an awesome find!
Also, just found this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1150805
Post by rmk40, talking about freezing bloatware apps on the HTC Sensation. There are some apps ppl have frozen on there that are also on the MT4GS. I'm going to look through it now and will check back later.
The Notes app from:
/system/app/androidnotes.apk
Is that it, or is there more in the /data folder?
I think it may be /data/data/com.marigold.android.notes
and /data/data/com.marigold.android.notes/databases/notes
But I don't want to delete it without being fully sure, can someone verify this for me?
nldroid said:
Does the camera app still work after you deleted sense? I wouldn't want to lose that..
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Yep, the camera app works completely. I tested all the modes, and used all the different manual settings in the last option. Nothing was broken, it was all fine.
Removing just the sense launcher and replacing it with something else has no impact on the camera, and I would imagine anything else that requires sense frameworks. We should test anything before making that blanket statement, though, but consider camera.apk to be tested and working without the sense launcher.
dansl said:
Also, just found this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1150805
Post by rmk40, talking about freezing bloatware apps on the HTC Sensation. There are some apps ppl have frozen on there that are also on the MT4GS. I'm going to look through it now and will check back later.
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That's awesome - while i'm busy re-inventing the wheel, way to pick up where someone else left off. I glanced through there quickly, but i'm kinda having fun figuring this out. I definitely look forward to hearing what you've learned browsing through, and i'll get there at some point.
Thanks clicked on that helpful post!
Sinfamy said:
The Notes app from:
/system/app/androidnotes.apk
Is that it, or is there more in the /data folder?
I think it may be /data/data/com.marigold.android.notes
and /data/data/com.marigold.android.notes/databases/notes
But I don't want to delete it without being fully sure, can someone verify this for me?
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Yep, you were right on. Delete the .apk in bold, then go delete the folder in bold. Once you delete the folder in /data/data, then your second line about the database in notes becomes moot, since it will have already been deleted.
Updated my list of stuff too (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16683780).
One thing i found that I couldn't quite figure out what is was for, is the Com.Redbend.SWM-C app. I've read that it might be used for tracking/analytics or DRM content... i dont know, but I froze it, and everything seems to be working fine still! I read someone had issues with Youtube, but youtube has been working fine for me.
thank you for this thread and thanks to dansl too. I was able to remove sense and a lot of the htc bloatware, making the phone a lot better.
I don't know what doubleshotandroidzipgroup was that was running in the background, but i froze it and it seems fine...
So it seems like this thread has been helping people, in conjunction with the other threads on the different aspects of this subject. I don't deal with freezing apps, it always seemed cleaner to me to just get rid of them.
I know in some cases that's not possible, maybe for us maybe not. I've sure learned a lot from this project, and from what people have discovered by freezing apps.
I want to take a moment to thank everyone who has contributed towards what we've learned here.
I took the time to really work out what has to be done to remove the various things we discovered, and the next few posts reflect the contributions everyone has made to this project.
Also, i'm hoping that this road map we are making will cut the time down it takes for developers to introduce roms for our device. Having the locations, and user test data of what you can dump should take some of their headache away. This is one of the motivations behind my trying to lay this all out like this, making it easier not only for us to use now, but for developers to refer to later.
Enjoy, i've had fun with it so far!
There was an initial surge of testing what could or could not be removed from the phone right after we got root, which has mostly passed now. Most of the obvious "I can get rid of this" stuff has been figured out, and the rest of the things we can safely get rid of will take a closer look and involve a bit of head scratching to figure out.
Meantime, I felt like it was a good idea to summarize what we know a bit, and come up with a good procedure for removing stuff that was both simple and stable. You could (and I, as well as others, have) delete(d) this stuff all at once without issue, but i'm more comfortable with a more cautious approach - and I know others will be too.
To that end, i've taken the time to test this method a few times, re-engineer it, tweak things, change the order up a bit, and finally lay it out here. We all pretty much want to get the most out of our phones, and for almost all of us here the "extras" pre-installed on our phones get in the way of this.
This'll be fun, and pretty painless - so - ready to remove some bloat?
Setup 1: We're going to go backwards in time a few steps. The ideal situation here is:
00 - Backup all phone data to somewhere off the phone itself.
01 - Factory reset phone, power down.
02 - Remove microsd card, format in computer.
03 - re-insert microsd card in phone, power on.
04 - Set up your Gmail account, enable the Market on your phone.
05 - S-OFF (if necessary), installing CWM 4.0.0.9 and Rooting your phone.
06 - Installing Busybox and Root Checker, verifying that both root and busybox are obtained/available on your phone.
07 - Uninstalling Busybox installer, checking Busybox installation in Root Checker again, then uninstalling Root Checker.
08 - Power down your phone, and boot into recovery mode.
09 - Make a CWM backup of your system in recovery, then rebooting your phone.
10 - (optional, but recommended) Making a copy of the CWM backup to another place, like your computer.
If you did/do it this way then you can always restore to a clean CWM backup from right after you got Root & Busybox on your phone, in the cleanest ready state it can be.
Otherwise, do a CWM backup of your system now, before following the instructions laid out below to be able to restore your phone if something goes wrong.
I'll try and help anyone who needs it if something doesn't go right, but please understand you do this at your own risk and backups are your best friend!
Setup 2: Tools.
01 - Install Root Explorer.
+ Other file managers may work with varying degrees of success, and there are some free alternatives, but nothing that will do the job like Root Explorer. I highly recommend this app, and if you're going to be doing this kind of stuff on your phone you should probably pick it up. You at least need a file manager capable of read/write access to your system folders, and that can copy and delete.
02 - Install Absolute System Root Tools.
+ Again, there are probably free alternatives out there, but this program is pretty awesome and I recommend it. You should have an app that lets you uninstall system apps, and lets you clear their data before uninstalling. One thing to note, is that it won't delete the .odex files of installed apps, so you'll have to go back and get them manually with Root Explorer.
03 - Before performing any steps listed below, you should make backups of all the files you will delete. I list the locations of everything so you can navigate to it with Root Explorer and copy the files somewhere else, like your sdcard. I would also go so far as to say you should make a CWM backup before attempting each of the steps below, but i'm overly cautious when it comes to backups - that's up to you.
(You could end up making changes in files you aren't working in, without realizing it. A Nandroid backup is the only way to ensure you can restore those files if that should happen)
** - Use Absolute System to uninstall .apk files listed below, and it will also get the /data/data location as well. You will have to go back and get the .odex files manually. If you choose not to use an app to uninstall the .apk files listed below, I wrote out their full path location so you can use Root Explorer to delete them manually.
** - Changes made to /system/etc are mirrored in /etc as soon as you make them. All changes made in /system/ are mirrored in the main directory in any corresponding folders or files in real-time as you make them.
** - I recommend removing all widgets and shortcuts/folders or any other items that may be on your desktop before starting this process. You can always put back anything that survives later when you are done.
** - It might be a good idea to turn off GPS, Mobile Networks, Bluetooth and Wi-Fi before proceeding. Optional, but recommended.
Feel free to skip any apps you want to keep along the way, and you don't necessarily have to go in order, but it'll be cleaner that way. Part of the organization behind it is to make it easy for the user to remember what they are doing, and break it down into smaller blocks so you'll lose less progress if something goes wrong.
Now that we're past all that, lets get down to business.
Part 1: Stock themes and wallpapers.
00 - Make sure your phone is set to the "System" theme before continuing (default theme). Then take a picture with your camera, or get a picture you like on your phone. Set this as your background wallpaper.
01 - Using Absolute System, uninstall the stock themes:
-com.tmobile.theme.Aubergine
+ /system/app/Aubergine.apk
+ /data/data/com.tmobile.theme.Aubergine
-com.tmobile.theme.Brooklyn
+ /system/app/Brooklyn.apk
+ /data/data/com.tmobile.theme.Brooklyn
-com.tmobile.theme.Jazz
+ /system/app/Jazz.apk
+ /data/data/com.tmobile.theme.Jazz
-com.tmobile.theme.Retro
+ /system/app/Retro.apk
+ /data/data/com.tmobile.theme.Retro
-com.tmobile.theme.Spring
+ /system/app/Spring.apk
+ /data/data/com.tmobile.theme.Spring
02 - Using Absolute System, uninstall the stock live wallpapers:
-com.android.wallpaper (Android Live Wallpapers)
+ /system/app/LiveWallpapers.apk
+ /data/data/com.android.wallpaper
-com.htc.android.wallpaper (HTC Sense Live Wallpaper)
+ /system/app/Mode10Wallpapers.apk
+ /data/data/com.htc.android.wallpaper
-com.htc.android.image_wallpaper (HTC Slide Show Wallpaper)
+ /system/app/HtcImageWallpaper.apk
+ /data/data/com.htc.android.image_wallpaper
-com.android.magicsmoke (Magic Smoke Wallpapers)
+ /system/app/MagicSmokeWallpapers.apk
+ /data/data/com.android.magicsmoke
-com.android.musicvis (Music Visualization Wallpapers)
+ /system/app/VisualizationWallpapers.apk
+ /data/data/com.android.musicvis
-com.htc.livewallpaper.streak (Streak Live Wallpaper)
+ /system/app/HTCLivewallpaperStreak.apk
+ /data/data/com.htc.livewallpaper.streak
Okay, we are done with Absolute System for the moment.
Fire up Root Explorer, and go to:
03 - /system/app/ (delete the files: )
-HtcImageWallpaper.odex
-HTCLivewallpaperStreak.odex
-LiveWallpapers.odex
-MagicSmokeWallpapers.odex
-Mode10Wallpapers.odex
-VisualizationWallpapers.odex
Still in Root Explorer, now go to:
04 - /system/customize/resource/ (delete the files: )
-htc_wallpaper_01.jpg
-htc_wallpaper_01_lockscreen.jpg
-htc_wallpaper_02.jpg
-htc_wallpaper_03.jpg
-htc_wallpaper_04.jpg
-htc_wallpaper_05.jpg
-htc_wallpaper_06.jpg
-tmo_wallpaper_01.png
-tmo_wallpaper_02.png
-tmo_wallpaper_03.png
-tmo_wallpaper_04.png
-tmo_wallpaper_05.png
-tmo_wallpaper_06.png
-tmo_wallpaper_grid_preview_01.png
-tmo_wallpaper_grid_preview_02.png
-tmo_wallpaper_grid_preview_03.png
-tmo_wallpaper_grid_preview_04.png
-tmo_wallpaper_grid_preview_05.png
-tmo_wallpaper_grid_preview_06.png
-tmo_wallpaper_preview_01.png
-tmo_wallpaper_preview_01_land.png
-tmo_wallpaper_preview_02.png
-tmo_wallpaper_preview_02_land.png
-tmo_wallpaper_preview_03.png
-tmo_wallpaper_preview_03_land.png
-tmo_wallpaper_preview_04.png
-tmo_wallpaper_preview_04_land.png
-tmo_wallpaper_preview_05.png
-tmo_wallpaper_preview_05_land.png
-tmo_wallpaper_preview_06.png
-tmo_wallpaper_preview_06_land.png
-wallpaper.jpg
-wallpaper.png
Still in Root Explorer, last place to go is:
05 - /system/etc/ (delete folder: )
-slideshow
(These are all the sample images for the HTC slideshow live wallpaper.)
06 - Exit Root Explorer, Reboot your phone to recovery. In CWM choose advanced and then "Wipe Dalvik Cache". Hit back and then "Wipe Cache Partition". Reboot your phone. (It will take a little while longer to boot since you wiped your cache, but not much)
After booting back up and making sure everything still works:
07 - Reboot into recovery, make a CWM Nandroid backup of your system. Make sure to back this up somewhere off the phone too.
Congratulations! You now have a recovery image of your phone with all of the stock themes and wallpapers removed.
Believe it or not, this netbook comes already rooted, but how to access it is hidden. The original adventure is posted below if you're interested,but I'll put the tl;dr up top.
You'll need to side load the app USB Debug by tatibana. This will shortcut to the hidden developer options. Slide the developer options on. You may or may not need to reboot, I was too focused on USB Debug to notice the SuperUser Options... The default is Always Deny. Set to Always Allow, then you can replace with your choice su manager (I installed Chainfire's SuperSU).
That's it. The rest below is my original posts up to this point, including getting a Linux working prior to figuring out root. Enjoy the read.
Edit 2: You can pick up new posts from this point by going directly to post #11.
Original Post:
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Okay, this one is a bit puzzling and I haven't found any good info in searches. This is an Android netbook with Jellybean. Pointer control is a single point touch pad which makes zooming out on several apps impossible; I wish to attain root so I can install desktop Linux in parallel and use some desktop apps in place of some Android apps. I know I could use something like qemu but I'd rather install root and use arm binaries than take a performance hit using non-root methods.
This netbook comes with an installed su binary and busybox 1.19.4 but trying to invoke su results in
su: uid 10084 not allowed to su
Settings is also a bit crippled; no Developer Options section means no option to invoke USB Debugging. Anyone have any good ideas?
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addendum
There also is no physical volume or photo buttons, and no obvious way to get into fastboot mode. My guess is that the original OS image was made in root mode, then the CV dev created a default user with almost no permissions, then backed it out effectively locking it out of root forever. I have also discovered that the busybox doesn't have access to the network as this user 10084, negating half its usability. No Play Store either (using Amazon instead), though I can (and have) install to my phone and copy to this if necessary.
This has a cool little form factor and I think has so much potential for a cheap device if I could just bust this major barrier. Does anyone know any sh or setuid tricks that might fake this thing into a root mode, or at least manage to give me enough permissions to edit /system files?
system seems to be owned by user 1003 and group 120, if that helps.
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Mmmmmm, tasty foot...
So apparently this is normal behavior for the stock android su (see guys, I'm learning >P ); only the user shell (and root) can use su. This thing using a shared uid for apps might or might not have an effect, don't know yet. The normal way around it is to adb shell and su in, then overwrite with a custom su binary such as ChainsDD. I don't know if I have that option since there's no USB Debugging option, and I'm too tired to find out tonight. I will update this adventure later.
USB failed, but not anything to do with adb, didn't even get that far. The netbook failed to even register to the desktop (Linux)... lsusb didn't show anything. I don't know if it's a cable thing (tried direct A-A patch and the MiniUSB charge port- charge port predictably didn't support data and neither standard port showed any reaction) or a hardware limitation.
I also took a crack at adb over wifi but as usual it was the catch 22 of needing root to invoke adbd into tcpip to attain root.
Still open to suggestions... please?
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Developer Options?
This is driving me up a new wall. Based on what I have been reading all day, Developer Options are a core function and cannot be removed, only hidden. This thing has not been giving me much confidence in that statement, however. I have been through the settings over and over again with a fine tooth comb and the whole thing eludes me.
This is Android 4.1.1. The 4.2+ trick (7 clicks on Build Number) doesn't work, and it's not in the App settings either, nor is there any sections renamed "Advanced" or the like. It may not be an end-all but I feel it would at least be a step in the right direction. I might be able to use an exploit such as Poot or Framearoot, which are currently ineffective.
I also haven't had any luck with getting into a recovery boot mode, not sure it's possible with this keyboard (I suspect it's soft driven; inactive until the kernel and modules are loaded). This seems to be just one shut down after another. I need more ideas, pointers, whatever. Don't forget, it can also help the next sap stuck with this model...
I decided to not lose sight of my original reasoning and move forward anyway with an app that claims to install Linux without root. I installed Gnuroot Wheezy which taught me some more f'd up things about this netbook but it at least in concept is working. What more things I have learned...
One of the issues with running Linux without root is the inability to use the external SD-card, at least native, because you can't mount an external partition/file that hasn't already been set up in the mount scripts outside of userspace. Gnuroot uses a chroot off the secure asec in /data. With about 3G user space available on this netbook, you'd think that wouldn't be a problem... but it is, because of another setup issue with this netbook...
See, while the external SD card does mount to /sdcard,/mnt/sdcard, that is NOT where Android app setup calls SDcard... there is a so called internal SDcard that is really a fake vfat via fuse mount off /data mounted to /mnt/local. This means it does no good to move my plethora of other apps to the "SD Card," actually, it makes the problem worse on this device. I imagine it was done so you could swap SD cards without affecting your apps, good move for flexibility but poor for expandability.
For those who would try it, that's also a big hint for getting it working. This device does not have access to the Play market*, so you will have to move helper apps from another Android device over. Don't bother with 3rd party repositories, you will not get everything you need. The biggest issue is the WheezyX obb file. It on install ONLY from the Play store will be located in /sdcard/Android/obb/champion.gnuroot.wheezyx/main.2.champion.gnuroot.wheezyx.obb , on this netbook the file must be moved to /mnt/local/Android/obb/champion.gnuroot.wheezyx or it will not be recognized, and because of the play store issue, can't be downloaded and gnuroot will exit with error.
Anyway, so now WheezyX is actually running and I am attempting to install an Openbox/LXDE desktop... the problem I am hitting now is the space limitation... It said it needed about 330 MB space and I had 360MB available on start... I'm now about 1/4 through and the netbook has come to a dead crawl due to... yep, very little space left (about 55 MB free on /data)... WTF! I feel like I am just not meant to win at like anything...
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*Edit: Once rooted, the play store can be installed to the system partition and does work pretty good.
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Some success with Linux
Well, it took quite a bit of monkeying and persistence but I do have desktop Linux running via the above described method. I found Synaptic was useful for finding packages but as the GNURoot author warned, for the love of all that's holy, use apt-get to actually install the packages. It seems trying to install a desktop environment via Synaptic totally overthrew the system. Also try installing only a few packages at a time and clean up after each one, especially where space is a premium.
What's left now is experimenting with vnc viewers a/o X11 environments. I'm presently using PocketCloud but it doesn't seem to like this keyboard (right shift = 6, no down arrow, Ctrl is sticky- forget combo keys; at least the included soft-keyboard does work, just a productivity killer) and getting a right mouse click is almost impossible, so I want to see if I can do better.
The environment is OpenBox with lxpanel and the background is set with qiv. I am confident now that providing space wasn't such an issue I could run pretty much any basic Linux program I want. I have not tested audio and I already know just being vncserver that motion video is a bad idea; this was mostly proof of concept until I can open up some space. I may now see how far I can take this (e.g. link large trees to the SD card, such as bin directories; since it's already running fake-root, I'm not too worried about user permissions. I may also experiment with fuse).
Edit:
This does not mean I don't still want to get a true root. If nothing else, even if I can't take Linux off the internal storage, root will allow me to force Android apps on to the external SD; either solves the current space issue and thus is still desirable. I'm just not as stuck in the mud now. Ideas still very much appreciated.
Done and done.
Just a quick update to say the project isn't dead, just dormant. I have successfully turned on USB debugging thanks to a shortcut app called "USB Debug" by Tatibana. Thank you
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Framaroot, Universal Androot, and Poot have all failed.
:banghead:
Have yet to see if physical USB will now work... I don't exactly live alone.
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SUCCESS!!!!!
IDFBT! I must have not been paying enough attention before or something, or maybe it was one of the half dozen greyed out options before... not sure, but after I was again unable to connect via direct USB, I decided to double check the developer options to make sure noting was reset by the last reboot.... and there in bright white last in the top section... Superuser Options (set to Always Deny)! I set it to Ask and tested, but it promptly rebooted as soon as I tried to su, and again on that boot, so I had to set to Always Allow. Amazon doesn't have SuperSU and last I knew ChainsDD Superuser is still adrift in the doldrums, so I'll have to sideload (as usual), but, I just wanted to share. This netbook does come rooted, you just need to turn on the hidden developer options, reboot, and go back and allow SuperUser.
Will report more as I progress. Banzai!!!
Adventures in Linux land
Well, I had mentioned before how space was an issue. Thanks in part to Link2SD, I managed to curb that problem.
Problem still though was my base graphical Linux install was taking 1G of my /data space. Since I made 2G available on the Link2SD ext4 (/data/sdext2) partition, I found I had about 1.3G available after moving most apps over, I decided I'd try a manual data move. I was slow with this since I didn't know how Link2SD or the system was going to handle it. That turned out to be a good thing.
When using Link2SD, one thing that should be obvious is to never move essential apps off the internal storage. These would be things like Link2SD itself, a Terminal emulator, and your superuser manager (e.g. SuperSU); basically, things you absolutely cannot lose access to even temporarily.
Okay, so, to test the behavior, I went into the emulator..
su
cd /data/sdext2
mkdir Linux
That's all. I then did a normal power off and restart. When rebooting, an "Android is Updating..." box came up and went away in a few seconds. The launcher came up and I waited for everything to load normally. Then I started getting a rash of "App is not installed" messages... uh oh. The only reason this turned out to not be a big deal is Link2SD and SuperSU were still on internal storage, and Link2SD is designed to deal with this problem. I simply launched Link2SD, clicked the tab bar on the upper left, and selected "Relink all application files," after which it requested a reboot, and I complied.
With a semi-disaster averted, I went back into /data/sdext2 to see if the Linux directory was still there. Hallelujah it was. Next was finding the GNURoot wheezyx root. This turned out to be fairly easy:
/data/data/champion.gnuroot/app_install/roots/wheezyx . I decided for potential future expansion to move the whole roots directory. Being cautious as I try, I do a copy.
su
cd /data/data/champion.gnuroot/app_install
cp -a roots /data/sdext2/Linux/
(... go make a sammich ...)
rm -R roots
(... go make and eat dinner ...)
ln -s /data/sdext2/Linux/roots roots
This appeared to work at first, until I tried to install something (abiword). I discovered that the permissions were not copied to the lib directories (android security quirk?). This would probably not be an issue if this were a true root install but being a fake root app install, it effectively prevented the installation of libraries. This was fixed simply by doing a chown and chmod on the lib directories.
Contined from above:
cd roots/wheezyx
chown 10102.10102 lib
chmod 771 lib
chown 10102.10102 usr/lib
chmod 771 usr/lib
*note: the app id number may be different on your copy. This will be fairly obvious with a simple ls -lh .
After that, the install completed and this thing is running pretty good. I am now considering this a complete success. While technically solved, I'll keep this thread open for questions or updates (for as long as the mods don't mind).
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Screencap op
Assuming the uploads work this time, attached are some screencaps. Enjoy.
So I tried many things for stop rubber banding in Pokemon go, and I think i found a method that works for me. Thanks to @Wildcat2083 for his thread https://www.google.com/amp/s/forum....nable-gps-change-rubber-banding-t3889811/amp/
Note :- in this method you are going to change file from you vendor , so be warned .
Requirements:- rooted device,GPS joystick,root explorer (solid explorer or any ), link2sd app which can be found in playstore.
Step 1 :- download GPS joystick and generate a duplicate version of it . Uninstall the original version and make the fake app a system app by using link2sd app and reboot device.
Step 2 :- open any root explorer go-to root->vendor->etc
In here you would find a file called "gps.__"(extension may vary). If don't see that file look for a folder called gnss ( i found mine in that ).
Step 3:- copy that file to any location like sdcard or internal. Then go back to the original file ( in vendor/etc) and delete it. Create a new file with same name and same extension.
Step 4 :- setting in up spoofing app. Don't enable any option other than system mode which will be enabled by default.
Hurray!!!! You can enjoy a working non rubber banding spoofing time now
Disclaimer :- doing this method means that other location apps won't work (maps, navigation etc) and adventure sync also will not work.
*Important*
*Keep your GPS in "device only" mode.
*Turn off location history for your Google account.
*Disable WiFi/Bluetooth scanning.
*Always start the GPS before opening Pokemon go.
*Repeat the same steps if you flash a update of your ROM.
FAQs
Wanna go back to normal?
-> paste the copied file over the newly created file.
Still face rubber banding?
-> just enable suspended mocking while facing rubber banding.
Still rubber banding?
-> use the tin foil method.
Should I disable any services or anything?
-> you can try,but don't disable fused location since the new update looks for fused location.
Lost the copied file?
-> dirty flash your ROM again
enjoy spoofing. If you have any doubts,you are always welcomed to ask.
If you like my work hit like......
Pokemon GO in the PUBG era?? Hmm interesting!!
Rowdyy Ronnie said:
Pokemon GO in the PUBG era?? Hmm interesting!!
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Sounds crazy but Pokemon go is still rocking with million of players, although 75% of them are spoofers,but yes it still exist.
sreenucr7 said:
Sounds crazy but Pokemon go is still rocking with million of players, although 75% of them are spoofers,but yes it still exist.
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Have you found the best ROM/Kernel for better performance on Pokemon Go?
raptorskate said:
Have you found the best ROM/Kernel for better performance on Pokemon Go?
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Lel performance for Pokemon go it works smoothly on any device with 2+ gb of ram
hay how to use foil paper method ?
surajit banik said:
hay how to use foil paper method ?
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The Idea is wrapping several layers of foil over your phone in such a way you can still see the screen and access the buttons but it is suspose to block the gps inside the phone from getting a reliable signal from space, I personally didn't like doing that, its why I originally worked out a software solution that prevented the gps from acquiring said signal from within android
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sreenucr7 said:
So I tried many things for stop rubber banding in Pokemon go, and I think i found a method that works for me. Thanks to @Wildcat2083 for his thread https://www.google.com/amp/s/forum....nable-gps-change-rubber-banding-t3889811/amp/
Note :- in this method you are going to change file from you vendor , so be warned .
Requirements:- rooted device,GPS joystick,root explorer (solid explorer or any ), link2sd app which can be found in playstore.
Step 1 :- download GPS joystick and generate a duplicate version of it . Uninstall the original version and make the fake app a system app by using link2sd app and reboot device.
Step 2 :- open any root explorer go-to root->vendor->etc
In here you would find a file called "gps.__"(extension may vary). If don't see that file look for a folder called gnss ( i found mine in that ).
Step 3:- copy that file to any location like sdcard or internal. Then go back to the original file ( in vendor/etc) and delete it. Create a new file with same name and same extension.
Step 4 :- setting in up spoofing app. Don't enable any option other than system mode which will be enabled by default.
Hurray!!!! You can enjoy a working non rubber banding spoofing time now
Disclaimer :- doing this method means that other location apps won't work (maps, navigation etc) and adventure sync also will not work.
*Important*
*Keep your GPS in "device only" mode.
*Turn off location history for your Google account.
*Disable WiFi/Bluetooth scanning.
*Always start the GPS before opening Pokemon go.
*Repeat the same steps if you flash a update of your ROM.
FAQs
Wanna go back to normal?
-> paste the copied file over the newly created file.
Still face rubber banding?
-> just enable suspended mocking while facing rubber banding.
Still rubber banding?
-> use the tin foil method.
Should I disable any services or anything?
-> you can try,but don't disable fused location since the new update looks for fused location.
Lost the copied file?
-> dirty flash your ROM again
enjoy spoofing. If you have any doubts,you are always welcomed to ask.
If you like my work hit like......
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Click to collapse
Curious, I have been away from GO for awhile now, its always a cat and mouse game with these things, is the method still functioning? I had some folks ask if it works with Android Pie but my carrier sees fit to not provide the update so Im not sure, at one point I wanted to make a app that automated all of this but eh not sure who is still interested in all this lol
So quick update, even with magisk installed no exposed pogo kept seeing root on my phone, but in a stroke of genius i found an app on the play store that sandboxes apps, its used for work applications to have a seperate copy of choosen apk for work purposes, what i did in addidition to the steps above was added pogo to the "island" gave play store access so I could log in the froze the regular copy of pogo and left the island copy working now it no longer sees root and the joystick method still functions, I win
Fake GPS app. is not works anymore with Pokémon Go ?
Some of them still do, i used the one from theappninjas ... The issue is getting pogo to stay running as they look through your files and processes to see what is running, if its in their blacklist then you get booted and possibly banned
I have followed all the steps but it works only for few seconds. I am getting Incompatible OS or software error Any solutions?
scorpienez said:
I have followed all the steps but it works only for few seconds. I am getting Incompatible OS or software error Any solutions?
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A couple things to check for are if pokemon go can see your rooted, if so then youll want to hide root from pokemon go with magisk but that slone isn't enough, you also have to hide magisk manager itself by using their option in their settings that changes their package name to something random, also pokemon go looks at your files in your sd card and internal storage, even if you deny storage access permissions, any file that can be directly flashed with twrp can do the OS message as well as any folder named magisk,root etc, also some root apps will cause you to not be able to play, like xposed frameword, even if its installed via magisk, busybox installer will also prevent you im sure there is a bunch more, as pokemon gets updated they add more and more checks
Its hard to find a difinitive list, its more about trial and error, even the joystick app i use by "theappninjas" has a help option to download their "full" version wich also has an option to generate a copy of their app that changes the name again as pokemon knows all about spoffing, its all about using every hiding method avaiable, cleaning up stray rooting files and really trial and error
The easiest way I've found is to root your device using magisk and flash smali patcher
Follow the instructions on flashing smali patcher
what if i tell you , you cant make system app and even if u succeed the moment you restart your mobile that app will "poof" GONE
Wildcat2083 said:
The Idea is wrapping several layers of foil over your phone in such a way you can still see the screen and access the buttons but it is suspose to block the gps inside the phone from getting a reliable signal from space, I personally didn't like doing that, its why I originally worked out a software solution that prevented the gps from acquiring said signal from within android
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Curious, I have been away from GO for awhile now, its always a cat and mouse game with these things, is the method still functioning? I had some folks ask if it works with Android Pie but my carrier sees fit to not provide the update so Im not sure, at one point I wanted to make a app that automated all of this but eh not sure who is still interested in all this lol
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If you on pie it will work but with a serious rubber banding if you have root acces try smali patcher.
can you give the app name used to sandbox pokemon go
and the steps to be followed
Wildcat2083 said:
So quick update, even with magisk installed no exposed pogo kept seeing root on my phone, but in a stroke of genius i found an app on the play store that sandboxes apps, its used for work applications to have a seperate copy of choosen apk for work purposes, what i did in addidition to the steps above was added pogo to the "island" gave play store access so I could log in the froze the regular copy of pogo and left the island copy working now it no longer sees root and the joystick method still functions, I win
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can you please give the steps and apps for this process
thanks in advance
mendax99 said:
can you please give the steps and apps for this process
thanks in advance
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Sorry for the super long delay, i unfortunatly do not have the steps any longer as the sandbox app i used was offered to me from google play store as a beta, at the end of the day tho i found out its unneeded you can gain the same effect by installing regulary way, the only reason i had mentioned it was i had thought in a sandbox enviroment pogo wouldnt see the sd card or internal storage but it turns out even in sandboxed it still does, all that really means is certain apps that pertain to root even if hidden with magisk if folders or files reside on your internal storage or sd card basically the game will see them N moreless kick you off, it looks for root apps anything named magisk and even .img or certain .zip files youd use to flash your phone, the best suggestion is google and you can come across some resources detailing which apps it looks for, i removed several apps and folders files until pogo would play without closing, i still had to hide root from pogo with magisk i still tweaked the gps like i posted in the thread its just minimizing the root apps to a bare minimum, xposed i know for one you cant use at all not even the one from magisk, pogo detected that right off, root checkers are another i know of right off hand
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mendax99 said:
can you please give the steps and apps for this process
thanks in advance
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The app was island sandbox, if playstore even still has it all i did was install it, it gives an option to store and install a second copy of any app within it to isolate the app but as i had stated pogo still managed to see what was in my storage anyhow, not sure how, but i know it looks in /data /storage /sdcard and even /system its pretty nosey for a game
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Rowdyy Ronnie said:
Pokemon GO in the PUBG era?? Hmm interesting!!
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Lol yea i was late on the draw, N from what i know the game still has lots of players, i dont play near as much myself but i lived where there were hardly no poke stops and walking around endlessly for the things was a drag so i got lazy lol, im sure there are more exciting games, but as an example take Skyrim its what 11 years old something like that and its modded n played like crazy, i dont really see pokemon as a whole going anywhere anytime soon
sreenucr7 said:
So I tried many things for stop rubber banding in Pokemon go, and I think i found a method that works for me. Thanks to @Wildcat2083 for his thread https://www.google.com/amp/s/forum....nable-gps-change-rubber-banding-t3889811/amp/
Note :- in this method you are going to change file from you vendor , so be warned .
Requirements:- rooted device,GPS joystick,root explorer (solid explorer or any ), link2sd app which can be found in playstore.
Step 1 :- download GPS joystick and generate a duplicate version of it . Uninstall the original version and make the fake app a system app by using link2sd app and reboot device.
Step 2 :- open any root explorer go-to root->vendor->etc
In here you would find a file called "gps.__"(extension may vary). If don't see that file look for a folder called gnss ( i found mine in that ).
Step 3:- copy that file to any location like sdcard or internal. Then go back to the original file ( in vendor/etc) and delete it. Create a new file with same name and same extension.
Step 4 :- setting in up spoofing app. Don't enable any option other than system mode which will be enabled by default.
Hurray!!!! You can enjoy a working non rubber banding spoofing time now
Disclaimer :- doing this method means that other location apps won't work (maps, navigation etc) and adventure sync also will not work.
*Important*
*Keep your GPS in "device only" mode.
*Turn off location history for your Google account.
*Disable WiFi/Bluetooth scanning.
*Always start the GPS before opening Pokemon go.
*Repeat the same steps if you flash a update of your ROM.
FAQs
Wanna go back to normal?
-> paste the copied file over the newly created file.
Still face rubber banding?
-> just enable suspended mocking while facing rubber banding.
Still rubber banding?
-> use the tin foil method.
Should I disable any services or anything?
-> you can try,but don't disable fused location since the new update looks for fused location.
Lost the copied file?
-> dirty flash your ROM again
enjoy spoofing. If you have any doubts,you are always welcomed to ask.
If you like my work hit like......
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Click to collapse
Hi mate could you help please
I did the same settings it works perfectly.
The problem is that I'm using it for uber deliveries when starting a delivery maps doesn't work
Help please
For whatever reason Onyx Boox devices only seem to have PIN as an option for security. I would prefer the standard pattern lock if possible. Is there a reliable way to activate or reinstall that option? I don't mind rooting or going through extra steps with adb to do so.
jptiger said:
For whatever reason Onyx Boox devices only seem to have PIN as an option for security. I would prefer the standard pattern lock if possible. Is there a reliable way to activate or reinstall that option? I don't mind rooting or going through extra steps with adb to do so.
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You can try searching to see if there any 3rd party apps that have pattern lock as an option.
Or
You can root your device and then pull a copy of the system app/apps that controls screen lock then decompile the app in APKeditor then modify the contents of the .apk to add a pattern lock feature then recompile the new apk and install it on your device then boot into recovery and wipe only the cache partition and/or dalvik cache but do not factory reset or wipe data then reboot the device to let the new system changes load.
(I don't see a way to delete this message so I'm editing it instead. It was a duplicate)
Droidriven said:
You can try searching to see if there any 3rd party apps that have pattern lock as an option.
Or
You can root your device and then pull a copy of the system app/apps that controls screen lock then decompile the app in APKeditor then modify the contents of the .apk to add a pattern lock feature then recompile the new apk and install it on your device then boot into recovery and wipe only the cache partition and/or dalvik cache but do not factory reset or wipe data then reboot the device to let the new system changes load.
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I guess what I'm hoping for is either a specific recommendation for the former (apps like this have decidedly mixed reviews with many including obtrusive ads or malfunctioning and locking you out of your device more permanently) or specific instructions/ packages to help do the latter. I doubt I'm the first person with this kind of device to have this sort of request and would like to know how those who came before me handled it.
jptiger said:
I guess what I'm hoping for is either a specific recommendation for the former (apps like this have decidedly mixed reviews with many including obtrusive ads or malfunctioning and locking you out of your device more permanently) or specific instructions/ packages to help do the latter. I doubt I'm the first person with this kind of device to have this sort of request and would like to know how those who came before me handled it.
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I did some searching for how to set that up on your device, the only thing I found mentioned using one of those 3rd party apps with ads. But, with root, you can use ad blockers or create a custom host file to potentially prevent the ads.