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I have been hearing many things about "4G" launching march 1st. Then once that passed I've been hearing middle-end of March. Has anyone actually been getting speeds of about 6mbps average, not just a peak times. Also if you have go to setting about phone and then network and look at network type and see if it says hsdpa+. The most I ever got standing next to a tower was 5.10 Down and .42 up on stalk, not rooted. I'm starting to think that this AT&T 4G is BS and is just crap advertising like T-Mobile "4G"
I live in Dallas and we are suppose to be in a "4G" area and my speeds haven't changed. On a good day, 4mb down and 1.5 up.
I'm also supposed to be in a 4G area according to their coverage map but I don't see any improvements. Does the 4G map show 4G with backhaul or is it just where the towers are upgraded but backhaul still needs work. Since in all their compercails it says 4G available in limited areas when combines with backhaul
There are only a few 4g areas up, they are:
Cali "bay area", Greater LA, Greater Dallas TX, Buffalo NY, Boston MA, Providence RI, Baltimore MD, Charlotte NC, and Chicago IL.
The 4g areas can be found here: http://www.att.com/network/#fbid=ZfECQbHFsTm
Here's the coverage map with where I live as well as the 4G with back haul crap website (see attachment)
Shoot just noticed you can't really read the works on the website but it says that future mobile broadband to be available by march 31st. I live right where the arrow is pointing to.
Also click on 4g FAQ and look at the questions about the H+ Icon
Im in the bayarea not not seeing any top speeds non rooted. I live in Dublin Ca and the speed i just got was 1705 up 325 down which is about how its been for 3 weeks. When i go into settings the network reads HSPDA but no plus. ATT coverage map in the bottom corner says this is for 3 g not 4g.
Anyone know if there is more to the backhaul in the sfbay area or is this it? Nowahere near the speeds advertised.
Also anyword on ATT releasing ghe cap on the upload?
Actually the map does show 4G coverage if you scroll over. At the top it says that. And from what I've read AT&T only mentioned enabling it on the Atrix they never said anything about the Inspire. But I would think that if they enable it on the Atrix they will on the Inspire, but the question is when. It took them 5 months to release froyo for the captavate and aria after the carrier released it so I wouldn't hold my breath.
I live smack dab in the middle of downtown San Francisco, 5 bars of good ol fashioned HSDPA... NOT 4G... not sure what the deal is with SF, and how they can advertise it as being launched already, but clearly it's NOT.
bella92108 said:
I live smack dab in the middle of downtown San Francisco, 5 bars of good ol fashioned HSDPA... NOT 4G... not sure what the deal is with SF, and how they can advertise it as being launched already, but clearly it's NOT.
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Thats what I'm saying. The phones are called 4G, I see their 4G commercials, but no one sees 4G on their phones. People are asking them whats the deal and they don't respond to anything. I called them yesterday to ask why I'm not getting any 4G speeds and they blamed it on my phone. I told the rep that I went to the AT&T store and tested the phones their and they got slow speeds as well. She said that 4G will launch in the summer. Do they train these reps at all?
pachkamil said:
Thats what I'm saying. The phones are called 4G, I see their 4G commercials, but no one sees 4G on their phones. People are asking them whats the deal and they don't respond to anything. I called them yesterday to ask why I'm not getting any 4G speeds and they blamed it on my phone. I told the rep that I went to the AT&T store and tested the phones their and they got slow speeds as well. She said that 4G will launch in the summer. Do they train these reps at all?
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I think they train em about as well as they trained the techs to build out the 3G network in 2008 and 2009... great they made 3G iPhones without having a 3G network, lol.
kgeissler said:
I live in Dallas and we are suppose to be in a "4G" area and my speeds haven't changed. On a good day, 4mb down and 1.5 up.
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Same situation here in Baltimore.
Not once have I ever seen HSPA+ show up in the About Phone/Network menu or the speeds to indicate otherwise.
I call BS on AT&T's whole operation.
They should at least tell people that they won't see 4G speeds until ___________ not show a fake 4G coverage map and call the phones 4G. I am covered by their "4G" and get slower than 3G speeds. Wow I'm glad I purchased a new 4G phone. The thunderbolt is looking real good.
pachkamil said:
They should at least tell people that they won't see 4G speeds until ___________ not show a fake 4G coverage map and call the phones 4G. I am covered by their "4G" and get slower than 3G speeds. Wow I'm glad I purchased a new 4G phone. The thunderbolt is looking real good.
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I get legitimate 3G speeds in SF... really decent 3G speeds, but I bought the "4G" phone to get the 4G speeds, otherwise I could have just stuck with a 3G phone.
San Francisco, CA
earlier today
This is a screenshot of my network page:
And these are my speeds I took earlier today on my way to work:
So does this mean I'm getting that HSDPA data?
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plmiller0905 said:
This is a screenshot of my network page:
And these are my speeds I took earlier today on my way to work:
So does this mean I'm getting that HSDPA data?
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Per the NW page, only HSDPA, not +
They were taken at different times, you really need to look right before or after a test to see at that time.
I dont know if im right but, i dont think we will ever see hsdpa+ or hspa+ in settings network. The big question is, has anybody from any network, seen any gsm 4g phone display hspa+ or hsdpa+ on network connection? I live in puerto rico and my provider is Claropr and i have hit 7,8 and almost 9mb dl and 2mb ul here with the inspire, and all it shows is hsdpa. And yes we have hspa+ rolled out since december!
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smthrsd said:
Im in the bayarea not not seeing any top speeds non rooted. I live in Dublin Ca and the speed i just got was 1705 up 325 down which is about how its been for 3 weeks. When i go into settings the network reads HSPDA but no plus. ATT coverage map in the bottom corner says this is for 3 g not 4g.
Anyone know if there is more to the backhaul in the sfbay area or is this it? Nowahere near the speeds advertised.
Also anyword on ATT releasing ghe cap on the upload?
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ATT claims they will remove the upload cap in the future, but no date of course. Personally I think the capped upload speed is very critical as I think upload is more important. Counterintuitive.
I'm rooted with flashed radio, so my signal strength icon is only an H, no +
In the settings I am on HSDPA
I was pulling about 5.5Mbps average down, 1.5 up as of a few minutes ago. My initial tests yielded 4-6Mbps down, 1 up.
Maybe it's finally on here in the NYC area?
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I dont know if im right but, i dont think we will ever see hsdpa+ or hspa+ in settings network. The big question is, has anybody from any network, seen any gsm 4g phone display hspa+ or hsdpa+ on network connection? I live in puerto rico and my provider is Claropr and i have hit 7,8 and almost 9mb dl and 2mb ul here with the inspire, and all it shows is hsdpa. And yes we have hspa+ rolled out since december!
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Your probably right. I don't think that we will ever see a + but it will show with speed. Does anyone know any app rooted or not that will show a plus if your connected to hsdpa+ or if this is even possible?
I've spent a lot of time reading through this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1109983&page=1 thread and have a quick question. If I am seeing a H+ on my SGS2 does that mean I have 4G? For reference I have a 4g sim but when I gave the IMEI of my phone they didn't accept it for a 4g plan and gave me a 3g plan. I have a 4G IMEI but am wondering if I need to do this or not given the fact I am seeing the H+
i do not think so because my captivate shows the h+ symbol when i am on cm7 and i am pretty sure that i am not getting 4g speeds the highest speeds i have seen through speed test apps are 6mbps which i think is still 3g. all the h+ symbol means is that we can get the higher upload speeds not too much more in the way of download speeds.
Att so called 4g is really only 3.5 compared to the rest of the world. The icons are just that icons. Like mine says 10g. Use a speed check app to see if you are getting decent speeds for your area.(which can change depending on where you are)
I got my nexus Today and as soon as I popped in my Sim card, I noticed I was already receiving LTE signal , I didn't notice any speed bumps , just on my notification bar I noticed the LTE icon , so my question is am I really getting LTE reception without paying extra ? Maybe I'll take advantage of the LTE signal where 3.5g was weak , I'm on T-Mobile Germany and they do have LTE
I don't know I'd I should just call them or if its not legal :/
Anyone?
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Anyone?
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I think its just connecting you to the LTE as the network is available but you . But you wont get any benefit from it as in speed as you havent updated to LTE from your carrier .
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I think its just connecting you to the LTE as the network is available but you . But you wont get any benefit from it as in speed as you havent updated to LTE from your carrier .
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So basically i'm receiving LTE but with my regular 3.5g speed, right? It's not that bad actually, if it's true that LTE signals penetrates in places where 3g doesn't, then looks like it's a win win-win situation for me :silly:
Base on the LTE network chart, T-Mobile in Germany use LTE band 3 and 20 which the international Nexus 5 support. It depends on your carrier plans. In USA, there isn't an LTE tier with T-Mobile, its included by default with regular data plans.
Sort answer is yes, if you're getting data and you see the LTE icon, you're getting LTE.
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Base on the LTE network chart, T-Mobile in Germany use LTE band 3 and 20 which the international Nexus 5 support. It depends on what your carrier. In USA, there isn't LTE tier, its included default regular data plans.
You can easily check by Settings -> About -> Status: Mobile network type.
Sort answer is yes, if you're getting data and you see the LTE icon, you're getting LTE.
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I got my nexus 5 on the german playstore , when im ready to upgrade to a plan with faster speeds , will I be able to do it without any problems at all?
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I got my nexus 5 on the german playstore , when im ready to upgrade to a plan with faster speeds , will I be able to do it without any problems at all?
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LTE is already the fastest data delivery method from T-Mobile and if you already have it, I don't know of any faster speed plan. You could upgrade to one that give higher data cap or unlimited data.
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LTE is already the fastest data delivery method from T-Mobile and if you already have it, I don't know of any faster speed plan. You could upgrade to one that give higher data cap or unlimited data.
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I currently have a 3.5g plan with 21 mbps , the LTE plans have 50 mpbs and 100 mpbs speed caps , I believe on Germany there's not a single company that offers unlimited data, but I don't really need it neither
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I currently have a 3.5g plan with 21 mbps , the LTE plans have 50 mpbs and 100 mpbs speed caps , I believe on Germany there's not a single company that offers unlimited data, but I don't really need it neither
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3.5G doesn't mean anything but just to categorize. It means HSPA+. But you should check with T-Mobile if your current plan have LTE. As far as I know you in the US you get LTE with T-Mobile if you have a data plan.
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So basically i'm receiving LTE but with my regular 3.5g speed, right? It's not that bad actually, if it's true that LTE signals penetrates in places where 3g doesn't, then looks like it's a win win-win situation for me :silly:
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Yup its a win win situation for you !
On EE in the UK im getting 15mbps from 3g enabled. With 4g im getting 20... Humm so 3g is 3g and 4g is H+ speeds??
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Yup its a win win situation for you !
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WOW , I'm so happy, usually in class i struggle to get 2g, yep the reception is that bad and today I went with my Nexus 5 and surprise suprise! i have LTE on my classroom :highfive: , I was so excited specially because I'm learning german in the moment and i have to use the dictionary/translator a looot, this definitely changes my day to day now :highfive:
Hey, I have a Moto G (XT1032) international version. I was wondering how everyone's data speeds were, I am using the "phone" apn and where I live (IL, US) I get 0.1-3mbps. I don't think im getting the speeds i should be getting on ATT's HSPA+ network. I've heard of the enhanced backhaul and how it increases speeds but I don't really know anything about it. Any suggestions?
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Hey, I have a Moto G (XT1032) international version. I was wondering how everyone's data speeds were, I am using the "phone" apn and where I live (IL, US) I get 0.1-3mbps. I don't think im getting the speeds i should be getting on ATT's HSPA+ network. I've heard of the enhanced backhaul and how it increases speeds but I don't really know anything about it. Any suggestions?
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Download Phone Testing by Diewland in Playstore and set preferred network to "WCDMA ONLY" this will keep it on 3G. I assume its on 2g hence the slow dataspeeds.
Moto G ATT HSPA+ speeds
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Download Phone Testing by Diewland in Playstore and set preferred network to "WCDMA ONLY" this will keep it on 3G. I assume its on 2g hence the slow dataspeeds.
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Thanks serophia, I ran a speed test right after that and I got 3mbps download, which is much better then what I was getting but I was looking for the 5-6mbps that other people get on their hspa+ smartphones
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Thanks serophia, I ran a speed test right after that and I got 3mbps download, which is much better then what I was getting but I was looking for the 5-6mbps that other people get on their hspa+ smartphones
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Your probably in a congested area, i also get around 3 mbps near my house but downtown area i get up to 7 mbps highest i ever gotten was 9.74.
I will start off by saying I live in Seattle, the homeland for t-mobile. I was wondering if anyone else is experiencing 5g actually being slower than 4g. Not just by feel, but by statistics and facts.
This is the case for me. Now I understand 5G is not global yet, but I think New York has it. I am getting about 21mbps download and 12 upload with 5g. On 4g, I am getting 41mbps down and about 12 up.
My Wifi at home gets 475mbps download, and 25 up. Anyone else experiencing this problem? Thanks.!
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I will start off by saying I live in Seattle, the homeland for t-mobile. I was wondering if anyone else is experiencing 5g actually being slower than 4g. Not just by feel, but by statistics and facts.
This is the case for me. Now I understand 5G is not global yet, but I think New York has it. I am getting about 21mbps download and 12 upload with 5g. On 4g, I am getting 41mbps down and about 12 up.
My Wifi at home gets 475mbps download, and 25 up. Anyone else experiencing this problem? Thanks.!
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I am getting very close speed to the LTE in upstate NY. Not sure if it is really 5G
Here is a screenshot with some of my results between LTE, 5G and WiFi
Here it is sorry
RobTegland said:
I will start off by saying I live in Seattle, the homeland for t-mobile. I was wondering if anyone else is experiencing 5g actually being slower than 4g. Not just by feel, but by statistics and facts.
This is the case for me. Now I understand 5G is not global yet, but I think New York has it. I am getting about 21mbps download and 12 upload with 5g. On 4g, I am getting 41mbps down and about 12 up.
My Wifi at home gets 475mbps download, and 25 up. Anyone else experiencing this problem? Thanks.!
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Just got my OnePlus 8 Friday In Peoria just outside Phoenix and most of our cities are 5g tmo ready and getting the same have not had one test where 5g works faster then 4g..
I dont think it has anything to do with T mobile having its headquarters in Washington...
I think it was more John Legre blowing typical marketing smoke and some of us fell for it!
With full bars for me, I get 80+ mbps on 4G LTE and around 110 mbps with 5G. I live in Akron, Ohio. From what I've read, the (600 MHz sub-6) 5G that T-Mobile offers is more about coverage than it is speeds. mmWave is more for speed.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.androidcentral.com/best-carriers-5g?amp
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With full bars for me, I get 80+ mbps on 4G LTE and around 110 mbps with 5G. I live in Akron, Ohio. From what I've read, the (600 MHz sub-6) 5G that T-Mobile offers is more about coverage than it is speeds. mmWave is more for speed.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.androidcentral.com/best-carriers-5g?amp
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Are you able to post your speeds?
I live in Boise Idaho and just got the OnePlus 8 yesterday. I ran speed tests on my OnePlus and the 5G seems to be anywhere between 30mbps-60mbps faster than my 4g LTE is ?* Don't pay attention to the first test. That was on the outskirts of my town and I only had barely any service, just wanted to test it to see with basically no service how fast it could go.
I work at a Tmobile store so I think I can help a bit but I’m not speaking for the company. So your phone is working fine Tmobile has 3 layers of 5G: Low band , Midband, And High band. Right now the current 5G that is available across the country is low band the speeds are slower but you have much better coverage, with the sprint merger they will next be rolling out the midband which will give you better speeds but not as great of coverage as the low band. Then they will roll out the high band which will be super fast but not very reliable (Verizon uses only high band and the signal can be easily blocked) right now in NYC they have working on all 3 layers at once and eventually that will expand. The benefit of being on the 5G network right now is that it separated from the LTE users so there is a lot less congestion.
I'm in Philadelphia, PA and my 5G seems way slower than any 4G ever was.
Also close, just north of Seattle. I'm on ATT MVNO Consumer Cellular now as their LTE speeds are better than T-Mobile around here.
I tried a Mint Mobile 250MB trial SIM and drove around testing. I was connecting to normal LTE bands (2, 4, 12, 66,.. Couldn't connect to tasty 71) running 5G protocol. I ran through the data quickly but speeds seemed to be on par with T-Mobile LTE. Cell speeds around here have always been pretty congested.
I can't get Consumer Cellular to connect to ATT 5G with ANY combination of settings but that could be maybe OP8 IMEI must be whitelisted with ATT (thought they just did that) or Consumer Cellular doesn't allow 5G even though an old site page says they will.
In the pic the 5G one is the only T-Mobile test I actually ran outside the Google speed test page. Red icon is using single connection (more realistic) and green is multi connection.
For now I guess ATT LTE still faster.
Also what is 5G Smart Switching (or whatever) in settings page?
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Sorry, just saw this. Been hella busy working on the house while the government recharges all the birds. ? When I get to an area where I live that has all bars, I'll post the speeds on 5G and 4G for you. My buddy just switched from Sprint to AT&T (iPhone 11 Pro Max) and he hit 186Mbps. Irrelevant but just still BS.
We are just changing the protocol using existing radio bands. Near 200 Mbps is the speed of my Comcast WAN. Outside very large single file downloads what would you need higher for? Not scrapin' just curious.
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Having high download/upload speeds are nice especially if you stream games with your phone like I do. Regularly use Xbox Game Preview, GeForce NOW, and Stadia. Although I wish Google weren't such suckas and let you stream over LTE but hey, what can you do?
Here are my speeds taken directly after the 10.5.8 IN55CB update. 4G LTE, 5G, and WiFi.
Tmo speeds are abysmal in Dallas fort worth of anyone is wondering .
I'm talking much slower than lte, seriously around 15 to 27mbps if you're lucky. I only upgraded from the 7t for 5g and it's a joke.
Just FYI tmo says that's normal and to be expected too... ??
No I'm at anywhere from 45 to 70 mbs download and up to 40mbs up even with a vpn I. Seattle
Decent speed down at the Des Moines/Federal Way border. On 5G.
You guys are killing me! I'm an hour east of Atlanta. My LTE reads 16Mpbs and my 5g reads 31Mpbs. So it's definitely faster but waaaay behind you guys.
Great speed on 5 G. TMO added two more bands and it is blazing fast.
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Decent speed down at the Des Moines/Federal Way border. On 5G.
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This is what I get on 5G with my OnePlus 8 on T-Mobile