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[Q] Does anyone have 4g yet?

I have been hearing many things about "4G" launching march 1st. Then once that passed I've been hearing middle-end of March. Has anyone actually been getting speeds of about 6mbps average, not just a peak times. Also if you have go to setting about phone and then network and look at network type and see if it says hsdpa+. The most I ever got standing next to a tower was 5.10 Down and .42 up on stalk, not rooted. I'm starting to think that this AT&T 4G is BS and is just crap advertising like T-Mobile "4G"

I live in Dallas and we are suppose to be in a "4G" area and my speeds haven't changed. On a good day, 4mb down and 1.5 up.

I'm also supposed to be in a 4G area according to their coverage map but I don't see any improvements. Does the 4G map show 4G with backhaul or is it just where the towers are upgraded but backhaul still needs work. Since in all their compercails it says 4G available in limited areas when combines with backhaul

There are only a few 4g areas up, they are:
Cali "bay area", Greater LA, Greater Dallas TX, Buffalo NY, Boston MA, Providence RI, Baltimore MD, Charlotte NC, and Chicago IL.
The 4g areas can be found here: http://www.att.com/network/#fbid=ZfECQbHFsTm

Here's the coverage map with where I live as well as the 4G with back haul crap website (see attachment)
Shoot just noticed you can't really read the works on the website but it says that future mobile broadband to be available by march 31st. I live right where the arrow is pointing to.
Also click on 4g FAQ and look at the questions about the H+ Icon

Im in the bayarea not not seeing any top speeds non rooted. I live in Dublin Ca and the speed i just got was 1705 up 325 down which is about how its been for 3 weeks. When i go into settings the network reads HSPDA but no plus. ATT coverage map in the bottom corner says this is for 3 g not 4g.
Anyone know if there is more to the backhaul in the sfbay area or is this it? Nowahere near the speeds advertised.
Also anyword on ATT releasing ghe cap on the upload?

Actually the map does show 4G coverage if you scroll over. At the top it says that. And from what I've read AT&T only mentioned enabling it on the Atrix they never said anything about the Inspire. But I would think that if they enable it on the Atrix they will on the Inspire, but the question is when. It took them 5 months to release froyo for the captavate and aria after the carrier released it so I wouldn't hold my breath.

I live smack dab in the middle of downtown San Francisco, 5 bars of good ol fashioned HSDPA... NOT 4G... not sure what the deal is with SF, and how they can advertise it as being launched already, but clearly it's NOT.

bella92108 said:
I live smack dab in the middle of downtown San Francisco, 5 bars of good ol fashioned HSDPA... NOT 4G... not sure what the deal is with SF, and how they can advertise it as being launched already, but clearly it's NOT.
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Thats what I'm saying. The phones are called 4G, I see their 4G commercials, but no one sees 4G on their phones. People are asking them whats the deal and they don't respond to anything. I called them yesterday to ask why I'm not getting any 4G speeds and they blamed it on my phone. I told the rep that I went to the AT&T store and tested the phones their and they got slow speeds as well. She said that 4G will launch in the summer. Do they train these reps at all?

pachkamil said:
Thats what I'm saying. The phones are called 4G, I see their 4G commercials, but no one sees 4G on their phones. People are asking them whats the deal and they don't respond to anything. I called them yesterday to ask why I'm not getting any 4G speeds and they blamed it on my phone. I told the rep that I went to the AT&T store and tested the phones their and they got slow speeds as well. She said that 4G will launch in the summer. Do they train these reps at all?
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I think they train em about as well as they trained the techs to build out the 3G network in 2008 and 2009... great they made 3G iPhones without having a 3G network, lol.

kgeissler said:
I live in Dallas and we are suppose to be in a "4G" area and my speeds haven't changed. On a good day, 4mb down and 1.5 up.
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Same situation here in Baltimore.
Not once have I ever seen HSPA+ show up in the About Phone/Network menu or the speeds to indicate otherwise.
I call BS on AT&T's whole operation.

They should at least tell people that they won't see 4G speeds until ___________ not show a fake 4G coverage map and call the phones 4G. I am covered by their "4G" and get slower than 3G speeds. Wow I'm glad I purchased a new 4G phone. The thunderbolt is looking real good.

pachkamil said:
They should at least tell people that they won't see 4G speeds until ___________ not show a fake 4G coverage map and call the phones 4G. I am covered by their "4G" and get slower than 3G speeds. Wow I'm glad I purchased a new 4G phone. The thunderbolt is looking real good.
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I get legitimate 3G speeds in SF... really decent 3G speeds, but I bought the "4G" phone to get the 4G speeds, otherwise I could have just stuck with a 3G phone.
San Francisco, CA

earlier today

This is a screenshot of my network page:
And these are my speeds I took earlier today on my way to work:
So does this mean I'm getting that HSDPA data?
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plmiller0905 said:
This is a screenshot of my network page:
And these are my speeds I took earlier today on my way to work:
So does this mean I'm getting that HSDPA data?
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Per the NW page, only HSDPA, not +
They were taken at different times, you really need to look right before or after a test to see at that time.

I dont know if im right but, i dont think we will ever see hsdpa+ or hspa+ in settings network. The big question is, has anybody from any network, seen any gsm 4g phone display hspa+ or hsdpa+ on network connection? I live in puerto rico and my provider is Claropr and i have hit 7,8 and almost 9mb dl and 2mb ul here with the inspire, and all it shows is hsdpa. And yes we have hspa+ rolled out since december!
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smthrsd said:
Im in the bayarea not not seeing any top speeds non rooted. I live in Dublin Ca and the speed i just got was 1705 up 325 down which is about how its been for 3 weeks. When i go into settings the network reads HSPDA but no plus. ATT coverage map in the bottom corner says this is for 3 g not 4g.
Anyone know if there is more to the backhaul in the sfbay area or is this it? Nowahere near the speeds advertised.
Also anyword on ATT releasing ghe cap on the upload?
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ATT claims they will remove the upload cap in the future, but no date of course. Personally I think the capped upload speed is very critical as I think upload is more important. Counterintuitive.

I'm rooted with flashed radio, so my signal strength icon is only an H, no +
In the settings I am on HSDPA
I was pulling about 5.5Mbps average down, 1.5 up as of a few minutes ago. My initial tests yielded 4-6Mbps down, 1 up.
Maybe it's finally on here in the NYC area?

prking07 said:
I dont know if im right but, i dont think we will ever see hsdpa+ or hspa+ in settings network. The big question is, has anybody from any network, seen any gsm 4g phone display hspa+ or hsdpa+ on network connection? I live in puerto rico and my provider is Claropr and i have hit 7,8 and almost 9mb dl and 2mb ul here with the inspire, and all it shows is hsdpa. And yes we have hspa+ rolled out since december!
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Your probably right. I don't think that we will ever see a + but it will show with speed. Does anyone know any app rooted or not that will show a plus if your connected to hsdpa+ or if this is even possible?

Why AT&T LTE is fast in select markets but slow in others incl. Chicago

I'm jealous of some of the speeds some of you guys in other LTE neighborhoods are getting, but so far my speeds in and around the Chicago burbs are no where near the 40 megs down or consistently at 20 megs down.
The fastest i've been able to hit are 25down and 9up right outside Chicago, on the road, in a suburb northwest of Chicago. On a consistent basis, I usually get about 9up and 9down at home on the northside of Chicago and the same applies when i'm 25 or 30 miles out in the burbs...
I found an interesting PC Magazine article i thought i'd share because it details why Chicago may be experiencing slower speeds than other areas such as in Houston and Atlanta.
I like the speeds I consistently get on this phone and find browsing the web on it speedy though; very happy with the skyrocket! How fast do you consistently get and where are you located?
PC Magazine: Why is AT&T LTE Fast In Houston, Slow In Chicago?
AT&T's LTE is the fastest network in Houston, but it's nowhere near as fast in Chicago. In our tests in Houston, we found that AT&T's brand-new 4G, LTE network achieved stellar speeds averaging 24.64Mbps down. But in tests in Chicago, LAPTOP Magazine found anemic speeds: a mere 5.59Mbps down. What's up?
The Big Blue carrier launched its new 4G network on Sunday with five cities: Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, Atlanta, and Chicago. As I pointed out in our test results story, Chicago stands out; it's not considered one of AT&T's strongest markets, and AT&T's LTE coverage there isn't as comprehensive as it is in the other launch cities.
Look at the results in the chart below. (The vertical axis is speed in Mbps, the Chicago data is from LAPTOP's study, and I'm really bad at making Excel charts on deadline.) What's striking is how consistent Verizon's speeds are compared to AT&T's wildly varying results.
AT&T vs. Verizon LTE Speeds
I've asked AT&T about these differences, and it hasn't gotten back to me yet. But the reason appears to be spectrum, and it means there's going to be much sharper differences in AT&T speeds city by city than there will be with Verizon's speeds.
Why AT&T is Fast - And Slow
According to Phone Scoop, AT&T has 24MHz of 700MHz spectrum in its Texas launch cities, but only 12MHz in Chicago. That means it can run its LTE network on paired 10-MHz channels in Texas, but it has to use 5MHz channels in Chicago. Verizon, on the other hand, has at least 22MHz everywhere in the nation, so it can use at least 10MHz channels everywhere.
AT&T plans to supplement its network with its AWS 1700MHz holdings as well, which could help the situation in the future. It's just not using it yet. As this Phone Scoop map shows, AT&T (then Cingular) also owns AWS spectrum scattered throughout the country, including in Chicago.
So is this what 5MHz LTE channels look like? Fortunately, we have another example of a 5MHz LTE rollout in the U.S.: MetroPCS. MetroPCS is actually running 4G LTE on even narrower channels in some cities, down to 1.4MHz. But in Dallas, for instance, MetroPCS is running its LTE network in a 5x5 arrangement.
In our Fastest Mobile Networks test, we found that MetroPCS's Dallas LTE network averaged 2.64Mbps and peaked at 6.3Mbps. That was in a loaded, real-life scenario, too. So AT&T's Chicago result of 5.93Mbps without any load is within that range, showing that AT&T's problem in Chicago may be spectrum.
Early this year, AT&T's chief technology officer John Donovan told MuniWireless that the company needs 10Mhz channels for optimal speeds.
"You can deploy [LTE] using 5×5, but that doesn’t last you very long given the way data is being used today," Donovan told the site.
AT&T argues that the solution is to merge with T-Mobile and buy Qualcomm's 700MHz spectrum as well. Qualcomm has some 700MHz spectrum in the highly populated Northeast Corridor and California that AT&T has proposed to buy. T-Mobile doesn't have any 700MHz spectrum at all, though; the advantage there would be to increase AT&T's 1700MHz AWS holdings.
AT&T's plan also seems to assume the carrier won't use any of its existing 850MHz or 1900MHz spectrum for LTE, including the spectrum that's currently used for 2G EDGE. According to a chart at the bottom of this MuniWireless story, that's where AT&T's spectrum strength is: while Verizon owns more 700Mhz spectrum than AT&T, AT&T generally owns considerably more 1900Mhz than Verizon.
What This Means For You
Cities where AT&T has more 700MHz spectrum will probably roll out earlier and have better speeds. According to Phone Scoop, that includes Baltimore, Boston, Cleveland, Detroit, New York, Philadelphia, St. Louis, San Francisco, and Washington.
Cities where AT&T has less 700MHz spectrum will have slower speeds; that includes Miami and LA. And areas where AT&T has neither 700MHz or AWS spectrum will get LTE last of all; that doesn't include many major cities, but much of the states of Iowa, West Virginia, Kentucky and the Florida Panhandle all fall under this category.
T-Mobile has turned to HSPA+ 42, which it argues is a more efficient way to use small amounts of spectrum, but AT&T has said it won't use that technology, although it's compatible with the carrier's technology path. In our Fastest Mobile Networks tests in New York City, a strong T-Mobile market, we saw speeds on the carrier's then-HSPA+ 21 network averaging 4.57Mbps down. HSPA+ 42 should be faster than that.
If AT&T is denied the easy answer of swallowing T-Mobile and all its spectrum, the carrier is going to have to get creative to match Verizon's nationwide coverage and speeds.
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Don't mess with Texas!
On AT&T LTE that is

Forgive me for not feeling bad for you and your 20+ download...
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Using 5Mhz of spectrum and Category 3 LTE UE, users can in theory reach up to 40mbps peak download speeds. In reality, we're looking between 20-30mbps peak download speeds.

Guess Vegas is one of the "slow" LTE cities for AT&T, been seeing ~25M down and ~10M up pretty consistently.

jc2048 said:
Guess Vegas is one of the "slow" LTE cities for AT&T, been seeing ~25M down and ~10M up pretty consistently.
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I'm pretty sure Vegas is 2x10Mhz.

cpcrazyfly said:
Forgive me for not feeling bad for you and your 20+ download...
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haha, sucks i can only get it when i'm passing by a certain area in my car though...

In Plano TX (Dallas Suburb) I am getting 35/12 consistently. Max I've gotten was 57/10 in various tests.

milan03 said:
I'm pretty sure Vegas is 2x10Mhz.
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jeeze im in new york city in my house in the bronx i only get 10MBPS download. on the highway going to work i got around 20MBPS. the best i ever got was around 4oMBPS and that was at a place in mid town.

bxsteve31 said:
jeeze im in new york city in my house in the bronx i only get 10MBPS download. on the highway going to work i got around 20MBPS. the best i ever got was around 4oMBPS and that was at a place in mid town.
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Did you really just bump a thread from 2011
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Xcrazydx said it best its another noob invasion.
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mtdew said:
Xcrazydx said it best its another noob invasion.
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They seem to come in big waves. It will quiet down for a while and then another big wave of necro bumps, best Rom threads and all around idiocy will rain down upon us.
Hopefully they leave soon and the dumb stuff stops. It would be so much easier if I had the report button back on tapatalk. But I saw pr talking about it costing too much or something, so whatever.
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xcrazydx said:
They seem to come in big waves. It will quiet down for a while and then another big wave of necro bumps, best Rom threads and all around idiocy will rain down upon us.
Hopefully they leave soon and the dumb stuff stops. It would be so much easier if I had the report button back on tapatalk. But I saw pr talking about it costing too much or something, so whatever.
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ugh... would you guys rather he create a new one? whats with all the hate? can't put new thread on, if you find an old one, you can't use it either coz ur gonna get called noob. geez... you guys should chill out a bit.

droidbabyxda said:
ugh... would you guys rather he create a new one? whats with all the hate? can't put new thread on, if you find an old one, you can't use it either coz ur gonna get called noob. geez... you guys should chill out a bit.
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It wouldn't be a problem if they posted something that mattered by being relevant or being some question that couldn't be answered by search.
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BaconStep said:
Did you really just bump a thread from 2011
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Hey its the thing to do now.
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Since the thread's bumped anyway...
Interesting read. It might explain the issue I've been having ever since AT&T rolled LTE out here (Seattle) where sometimes text messages don't come in until later.

Wish ATT would update towers....
ATT drives me crazy sometimes ... I had a choice between Verizon and ATT for my workphone...I choose ATT because at the time I'd get at least a bar in my house vs none with Verizon.
While at work, everyone who is on Verizon got a 3G signal while I'm stuck on Edge with ATT.... so when I go out to lunch trying to surf the web is a no go....
I was hoping that they would at least give HSPA+ in the area with ATT, but alas the other day I setup a new droid for a user and they got a 4G LTE signal on Verizon .... I cried a little.
I know that since it's a small out in the middle of nowhere town but....I gotta say when I see ATT & Verizon commericals ...makes me think that Viz gots it goin on.

I think both are all hype they just want r monthly fee
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Sprint lte plus

So i was on sprint chat and i asked the rep of my area had the new sprint lte plus service. She told me yea but for some reason im only getting 4 mbps. Any idea in how to make it faster?

You should get signal check to see what bands are you getting. B25 and b26 are slow usually. B41 and B41x2 is the good stuff. ##33284# on the phone dialer and go to lte engineering. It'll tell you the band, signal width, and primary and secondary download carrier I'd applicable. Good luck. Last speed test was 124mb from a carrier aggregation tower
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You should get signal check to see what bands are you getting. B25 and b26 are slow usually. B41 and B41x2 is the good stuff. ##33284# on the phone dialer and go to lte engineering. It'll tell you the band, signal width, and primary and secondary download carrier I'd applicable. Good luck. Last speed test was 124mb from a carrier aggregation tower
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Is this good or no?

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1. Simply because your phone shows LTE does not always mean the speed will increase dramatically. What you are seeing is Sprint's 1900mhz band. From those you can expect speeds of 3-6mbps and a high max of 25mbps (You will likely not see this at any point.) Last I remember range was around 2-3 miles on the tower, a GMO site will cut range down a bit. Where I live everyone was excited about 4g however we have the same speeds as you are seeing. No real increase and causing other issues. On the flip side you still may see 800mhz depending on where you live, but it is not a guarantee.
2. Honestly do not go by what Customer Service reps say. Reps would tell my customers we had 4g in Erie Pa for the last year. It was not turned on until March 1st 2016. I have had people scream, kick, yell, throw phones, you name it because customer service told them so. Sitting behind a PC in India or Texas and working in the actual area have distinct differences.
Many smaller areas will likely not go LTE Plus anytime in the near future, larger metro areas will go Plus and others will likely stay in the normal LTE range for now.

Yea i figured that

OnePlus 6 on T-Mobile

The OnePlus 6 has band 71 which is T-Mobile's new band. I read that the future 6T will have a version sold through T-Mobile that is"optimized for TMobile." I'm curious what is meant by optimized for TMobile. Any thoughts?

I'm very interested in this, but I've never owned a one plus device. One question that I have for one plus owners is how fast does one plus update their os to the newest android version? I know you can have P beta on the 6 which is really quick. Has it always been like this? And do you think since this phone will be on tmobile, would that make the update slower then the global version?

All it means is t-mobile will tweak the modem. And as for band 71 unless you are in a rural area don't expect much from it. It won't give you amazing speed it willl allow for better signal in buildings and other areas that cause signal difficulties.

nujackk said:
All it means is t-mobile will tweak the modem. And as for band 71 unless you are in a rural area don't expect much from it. It won't give you amazing speed it willl allow for better signal in buildings and other areas that cause signal difficulties.
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Well, I don't live in a rural area, but I did start working in a rural area, and my tmobile sucks, but I did notice there's some tmobile network that I can't access. I'm only allowed to be in their partners network. I wonder if that tmobile network is band 71. I currently have a s7 edge. Is there anyway to find out if that's really band 71?

fredox19 said:
Well, I don't live in a rural area, but I did start working in a rural area, and my tmobile sucks, but I did notice there's some tmobile network that I can't access. I'm only allowed to be in their partners network. I wonder if that tmobile network is band 71. I currently have a s7 edge. Is there anyway to find out if that's really band 71?
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It's possible that it is, but since you can't connect only way to check is t-mobiles map or call them and ask if it's in the area they won't mind, but may be in hold a while.
The OP6 will connect to 71, I have when passing thru area that had it.
And main reason it's rural areas right now is that's where they've been able to get the tvv stains to clear the bandwidth first and where it's most needed.
Should start to see it Lot more in bigger cities next year. T-Mobile working with them to speed it up

How's everyone's service with T-Mobile?

I've had my Mi 10 Ultra for a few months now, running Xiaomi.EU ROM 11.18 beta. My service with T-Mobile has been ok.
Granted, I didn't expect super fast speeds giving the lack of US bands this phone supports. I've been getting on average around 20 Mbps download. How's everyone else's service? Are you using the BYOD T-Mobile apn settings?
Edit* I'm on 11.18 beta. Not 11.25

Pretty good, I usually average around 30-40 mbps down on their "5G" network.
I use mint mobile mvno, so not sure if I get a speed cap. But I programmed it to T-Mobile apn settings.

I just switched to Mint. It seems like the speeds are the same, when compared to T-Mobile prepaid. You said you're using the regular T-Mobile apn settings instead of Mint?

Just used the settings from here:
T-Mobile data & APN settings
Learn how to adjust your device settings when you bring your own device to T-Mobile.
www.t-mobile.com
If you go to the sim apn settings it should already show up there and you can just select tmobile-fast.

Even though this phone has Band 41, and I'm often in supposedly Band 41 areas, I don't get Band 41 speeds which are said to be 200Mbs+. Anyone else?
I just did a speed test with my GF's iphone 12 vs my Mi 10 Ultra. iphone got 91Mbps, Mi 10 Ultra 20Mbps. So the band 41 5G clearly is not working, which is disappointing.

It's all about band combos:
https://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/comments/j10fg5
I've never broken past 40 mbps on T-Mobile network.
You also need to see if your local area is actually using band 41 for 5g.

blabba said:
It's all about band combos:
https://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/comments/j10fg5
I've never broken past 40 mbps on T-Mobile network.
You also need to see if your local area is actually using band 41 for 5g.
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Thanks great find. I didn't know that. It's fairly poor, fairly slow service. Oh well.

I noticed with the newest update for the xiaomi.eu rom on weekly, has resulted in slower speeds with Mint/T-Mobile. Anyone else notice this?