So... Why are audio docks not a thing? - Galaxy S6 Accessories

I'm admittedly coming back to Android from the iPhone but I've always had a charging or audio dock for my devices and it seems people don't really make those anymore. Why is that? I understand micro usb slot placement may play a role but really I'm at a loss here. The stands/charging docks available for these devices are terrible. Is there a particular brand or website that I'm missing?

The.Jericho.Initiative said:
I'm admittedly coming back to Android from the iPhone but I've always had a charging or audio dock for my devices and it seems people don't really make those anymore. Why is that? I understand micro usb slot placement may play a role but really I'm at a loss here. The stands/charging docks available for these devices are terrible. Is there a particular brand or website that I'm missing?
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I moved away from docks shortly after nfc came out. Now I just touch my phone to the speakers and they automatically pair. The nice thing about doing it that way is you can hold and use your phone as it's charging from any outlet in the room/house. I don't think you can use nfc for anything other than Apple pay on the iPhone so that's probably why docks are still so popular on the iphone.

The.Jericho.Initiative said:
I'm admittedly coming back to Android from the iPhone but I've always had a charging or audio dock for my devices and it seems people don't really make those anymore. Why is that? I understand micro usb slot placement may play a role but really I'm at a loss here. The stands/charging docks available for these devices are terrible. Is there a particular brand or website that I'm missing?
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Samsung makes some lesser known ones like the DA-Exxx line.
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-DA-E5...431541290&sr=8-3&keywords=samsung+da+speakers
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-DA-E6...8&qid=1431541443&sr=8-3&keywords=da-e+samsung
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-DA-E5...8&qid=1431541443&sr=8-7&keywords=da-e+samsung
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-DA-E6...8&qid=1431541443&sr=8-5&keywords=da-e+samsung
The highest end one is the DA-E750/751 that has a built in tube amp.
http://www.samsung.com/us/video/home-audio/DA-E751/ZA

Docks are usually phone specific and become obsolete when the phone does. Jack/port placement changes and there isn't a universal standard for getting audio out of the USB port. Using Bluetooth (with or without NFC) gets around the physical obsolescence with a standard method.

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Question about switching from iPhone

After a long year with my iPhone, I am finally due for an upgrade and I want the S3. I have always been an Android user, but decided to see what iOS was all about. I wasn't impressed even a little bit, so I bought a Transformer Prime to get my Android fix until I was due for an upgrade. The ONLY thing I like about the iPhone, is the connectivity in all my vehicles. They all have iPod connections , which makes life much easier for charging and playing music in the car through one cable. Has anyone found a solution for playing music and charging in a car with the S3 and vehicles equipped with iPod connections? Are there any adapters to get the S3 to work with an iPod adapter?
I'm assuming you dont have Bluetooth connectivity on your stereo.
rfmodeler said:
I'm assuming you dont have Bluetooth connectivity on your stereo.
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Unfortunately, no. There are some Bluetooth adapters available that plug into the 30 pin iPod connector. I'm wondering if that would work, or maybe they just work on docks?
No, there are no adapters, i makes sure of that. I hate that company!
This is one of those things in life that just doesn't make sense. Why all these manufacturers cater to i is beyond me, android outsells i 4 to 1. Try to find an android dock at your local electronics supplier, you may find 1 out of 20 i docks.
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As far as battery goes, I would just embrace the fact that you will now have a removable battery and extra batteries are cheap as hell.
So then if you have an aux cable you'd be golden. I believe there are also bluetooth to Aux connectors that work really well, but I do not think I've heard of a iPhone (proprietary POS) adapter.
Female iPhone to Micro USB...here you go! ---> http://www.buyandfun.com/en-usd/whi...pter-cable-for-iphone-ipad-tablet-p20295.html
restinbeast said:
As far as battery goes, I would just embrace the fact that you will now have a removable battery and extra batteries are cheap as hell.
So then if you have an aux cable you'd be golden. I believe there are also bluetooth to Aux connectors that work really well, but I do not think I've heard of a iPhone (proprietary POS) adapter.
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I use the aux cable directly to my phone, but this will cause a bluetooth earpiece to not function. I also have the aux bluetooth adapter, but the bass does not come through.
galchristian said:
Female iPhone to Micro USB...here you go! ---> http://www.buyandfun.com/en-usd/whi...pter-cable-for-iphone-ipad-tablet-p20295.html
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That will only solve my charging. I need to play the music through the iPod cable because my vehicles don't have an aux input either.
Apple strikes again. I hope you aren't using your home computer to post here, they may already have a re-iZombification van on the way.
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This was my first and last Apple product, guaranteed. A year of owning this iPhone, and I don't get why people like these things so much.
Sorry, didn't mean to imply that you had been an iZombie (especially since you didn't fall for their iPad hype). Just railing on the Apple crowd as they annoy me so much.
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Sorry, didn't mean to imply that you had been an iZombie (especially since you didn't fall for their iPad hype). Just railing on the Apple crowd as they annoy me so much.
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Don't worry about it. I literally got the iPhone just to see what all the hype was. Not even impressed a little bit.
lennie paz said:
Don't worry about it. I literally got the iPhone just to see what all the hype was. Not even impressed a little bit.
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I do have to say, I was impressed by their iPad3. The display on it is ridiculous. I got it for like 400 bucks and played with it for a while. I eventually got defeated by the LACK of customization and sold it to my mother so she would buy me my SIII lol.
lennie paz said:
Don't worry about it. I literally got the iPhone just to see what all the hype was. Not even impressed a little bit.
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Are you sure you didn't buy it just because it looked so much like the Samsung phone you actually wanted?
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FYI in these S3 forums, there is NEVER an excuse to claim any good points about i products........! Our job is to promote the amazingness and superiority of our devices to that closed cell cult of a community!
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Didn't take it as a knock. The retina display is awesome but Android is definitely coming up too. The siii display is very close to the retina except being smaller.
lennie paz said:
This was my first and last Apple product, guaranteed. A year of owning this iPhone, and I don't get why people like these things so much.
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Ha-ha..I don't even know how you survived a year with a highPhone.
and as of the cable, I found one website where they claimed the micro usb wouldn't just charge the phone but would actually play the music as well thru it
EDIT: here you go as an alternative http://www.amazon.com/CableJive-dockBoss-Smart-Adapter-iPhone/dp/B0065JUZT6
& another one: http://www.amazon.com/Juiced-Systems-Micro-3-5mm-Audio/dp/B007SXINGK/ref=pd_sim_sbs_cps_3
lennie paz said:
That will only solve my charging. I need to play the music through the iPod cable because my vehicles don't have an aux input either.
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Does it have a tape player?
Is the radio in your vehicle stock or aftermarket? On some radios, mainly aftermarket but there are a few stock, there are unused input ports on the back and all you would have to dowas find the corresponding cord plug it in the back of your radio and run to how and where you wanted it. On my radio, aftermarket, it actually has a USB type A female end so I plug whatever I want into it and it charges the phone while playing my music, although the easiest way to access the music is to enable UMS so you can go through the files until you find the one you want. Yours may not have this but there.are always ways around it, for instance if the iPhone cable is attached to the radio on the back side it could be as easy as unplugging it and plugging a micro USB in or it could be a little tougher meaning you would have to take the metal guard off of the radio and find out where the iPhone cable ran. If it runs to the radios motherboard and is soldered directly on then you could take a few pics so you will remember the correct wire placement, desolder the wires which should be fairly easy, strip the full size USB end off or your micro USB cable separate the wires and if the colors matched up to the iPhone wire colors solder in place and have fun, if the colors don't match then you would have to test and find out which wire is what and then solder then accordingly. If you decided to go the soldering route then the best thing to do would be to get a USB cable with a full size type A female port strip the opposite end off, attach, and then plug your S3 cable into the female end. That way you could plug whatever you wanted into it instead of just having a micro USB end.
If you've never soldered before but want to try to change the cables out practice for 2 or 3 weeks or until you know exactly what you're doing. Don't start on the radio right away or you will burn it up. Alternatively you could just buy an aftermarket radio like mine, Kenwood DNX-6990HD, and install it yourself or pay someone 100-200 dollars to install it.
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The car I am most concerned with, is my Lexus. It has a factory stereo with Nav. Currently, I am using this to connect the iPhone in the Lexus:
http://www.vaistech.com/products/vml_products.php

Car Docks?

Does any manufacturer make model specific car docks with proper USB connections anymore? It seems every 2015 smart phone I've looked at doesn't offer one, and it's a bit disconcerting. I've been spoiled by my last few phones having them, where it's a very simple drop in and the phone is charging, it recognizes it's in car mode, etc.
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Does any manufacturer make model specific car docks with proper USB connections anymore? It seems every 2015 smart phone I've looked at doesn't offer one, and it's a bit disconcerting. I've been spoiled by my last few phones having them, where it's a very simple drop in and the phone is charging, it recognizes it's in car mode, etc.
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I still have yet to upgrade my phone, 100% due to this issue. I'm tempted to simply build my own proper dock for whatever device I end up getting because I can't stand the docks on the market.

CONFIRMED working 3.5 audio adapters

I'm starting to see a number of USB-C to 3.5 headphone jack adapters on Amazon, though a great many of them have less than fantastic reviews and many reviewers indicated they don't work for specific phones. I recently saw one that was specifically indicated to work with the Moto Z, so I went ahead and bought. It came today and I am able to CONFIRM that it does indeed work with my Verizon Moto Z Force phone.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N7R8PWO/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
The USB-C adapter seems to fit well, and I'm getting audio from the Google Music player in both ears just fine. Just thought I'd share my results in case others were looking for working adapters. If you found one that definitely works with Moto Z as well, please share it here.
I'd be interested in finding out if anybody finds one which allows charging at the same time (some sort of USB-C to 3.5mm + USB-C adapter). Otherwise, my phone is useless on a road trip (running Waze eats the battery quick, and I like to listen to music via Aux In). I know that the Car Dock Mod allows this, but that's via the Mod adapter on the back of the phone and I need to use a Universal dock (wife uses an iPhone).
sn00gan said:
I'd be interested in finding out if anybody finds one which allows charging at the same time (some sort of USB-C to 3.5mm + USB-C adapter). Otherwise, my phone is useless on a road trip (running Waze eats the battery quick, and I like to listen to music via Aux In). I know that the Car Dock Mod allows this, but that's via the Mod adapter on the back of the phone and I need to use a Universal dock (wife uses an iPhone).
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FWIW, if you have a wireless charging mod, TILT makes a universal car dock with wireless charging: http://www.tylt.com/car-products/capio-car-mount
That'll leave the port open for the 3.5mm adapter. Waze will probably still eat faster than wireless will charge, but it should extend the time significantly.
I should probably read posts before responding to them. Please ignore. :]
rapdactyl said:
Incipio actually makes a really good vehicle dock mod that allows you to charge and has a 3.5mm output. Only mod I use regularly, it's ridiculously convenient. Crazy that it's not very well known, because it's easily the most useful Moto Mod.
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RIF. He mentioned the mod in the post you quoted. He also explained why it won't work for him.
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RIF. He mentioned the mod in the post you quoted. He also explained why it won't work for him.
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Derp, didn't read the original quote, my bad.
You get one with your phone though so does it matter if there are after market ones?
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You get one with your phone though so does it matter if there are after market ones?
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... What if you lose the one it came with? What if you want to have extras?
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You get one with your phone though so does it matter if there are after market ones?
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To me it does. I don't want to carry it everywhere with me to get potentially lost or mangled in my pocket. I'd rather leave one at work, one in the car, and one at home.
I see. I actually only use mine in the car now for the aux input but otherwise I've already converted to Bluetooth headphones unfortunately. And no, not beats. Beats are terrible.
I found what claimed to be OEM Moto cables on Amazon and ordered a couple, but they are currently unavailable. I paid $7.58 each.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N0ZYNV8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I also ordered this one, which was made by a third party and was $6.99
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01M0GHUCW/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I cannot speak to durability because I just received them in the last week, but all of them did at least work initially.

USB C to Headphone Adapter is Spotty

My headphone adapter from Google does not consistently work. What's the deal?
I plug it in and usually gives me the notification for different USB options: charge, supply power, transfer files, transfer photos, MIDI
But sound just plays through my speakers or calls come through the ear of the phone.
Any ideas? Is there some secret to it that I'm not getting?
Is this the included adaptor or one that you acquired elsewhere?
It is the adapter that came with the phone from Google.
Sounds like a defective cable. What I'm unsure of is USB-C was suppose to be a new "standard" but Google changed pins or something preventing other adapters from working. Really piss poor. Just sent back my second after market adapter that did advertise pixel2 compliant. Nope.
MLT2004 said:
What I'm unsure of is USB-C was suppose to be a new "standard" but Google changed pins or something preventing other adapters from working. Really piss poor. Just sent back my second after market adapter that did advertise pixel2 compliant. Nope.
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You don't say which after market adapter you got.
Google is using the standard but requires DAC which meets the standard. If you get a cheap adapter, the chances are they don't have the necessary DAC chip in them or a cheap version which doesn't work.
One of many articles about it.
https://www.androidauthority.com/3-5mm-audio-usb-type-c-701507/
Google will have them back in stock shortly for $9 w/free shipping.
https://store.google.com/us/product/usb_c_headphone_adapter
Another solution would be to get a BT to 3mm device which allows you to use BT on your phone to any 3.5mm plug devices. I have been using a several of these for a couple years to hook up my TV and other devices which use the 3.5mm jack to use with my really good BT headphones.
Yes, I can confirm that the HTC adapter works with the Pixel 2. However, aftermarket adapters designed for Motorola phones won't because Moto aren't following the USB-C digital standard there (and they key is "digital", which is why, as the post above says, the adapter needs a DAC in it).
I have the same problem and apparently I am not the only one.
I heard that people got 2 or 3 replacements and the problem persists. It is probably software related.
I will see if with the Moshi splitter I have the same problem.
Has anyone fixed this? I'm on my second pixel 2xl and have 3 Google adaptors that work intermittently
Spotty is too kind
The designed in difficulty Google lovingly put into the Pixel 2 surrounding that oh so special USB-C socket, that lonely and inadequate solitary physical output port, to get music to output through there is ridiculously difficult to next to impossible. To Google's credit they have _tried_ to help when I've called - repeatedly - in the past 6 months but it's just simply not designed to send music out that sole output socket. Which is stupefying trying to grasp how those brilliant Mtn. Viewers could have thought such a design a 'good idea.' All previous versions of android allowed me to 'choose' output to fill-in-the-blank - device speaker, b-t, or the cable/port. With the design push err shove toward b-t headphones or devices that then send your signal to your sound system/speakers they evidently just decided no one would want to send music through the cable. That fact is, as I have indicated, perplexing not to mention maddening. It's also a glaring design flaw. The short of it is it will only work if it's plugged into some device that I guess is factory designed to work with Oreo. Then and only then will the Pixel 'see' that resource as an option to play the signal - and it works automatically. Physically choosing to send your music out that USB-C port & out your cable is not an option, according to Google tech support who I finally called after months of frustration and finally giving up on finding resolution online on my own.
Maybe there's something I'm not understanding, but it's certainly not true that music output only works "if it is plugged into some device that is factory designed to work with Oreo". Mine plays music fine through a HTC adapter that predates Oreo by about a year, or a Dragonfly Red portable USB DAC/amp that predates Oreo by a couple of years and isn't even USB-C. And conversely the Google adapter, which I infer you are having problems with, surely was designed for Oreo since it was released with phones that have never had any earlier version of Android.
Now if you are saying that the OS doesn't allow you to send sound out through the socket when it doesn't identify a device capable of handling it as connected, well OK. But would a previous version of Android allow you to route audio through the USB socket if there was nothing connected to it (or nothing more than an OTG connector)? I never tried that (for obvious reasons) so don't know. But I do know it also didn't allow you to route audio out of the headphone jack unless there was something in that making the correct electrical connections. So it seems to me that the main difference is that this is purely digital audio out, so a digital handshake replaces the electrical connection. But as I say, maybe I'm missing something you are trying to say?
I seriously got fed up with the USB-C to 3.5mm jack playing music out loud in my office is no bueno. I decided to buy a FiiO BTR1, it works while charging so ill just leave it plugged in at work.
Update to 2020 January 7. I just bought a new headphone for my Pixel 2 and it won't recognise it with the dongle I got with the phone. I read it was a problem known by Google in 2017 and a fix would happen on a software update. I've also heard masses saying the cheap dongle won't work and Google saying they would replace it. I've also tried a high quality Apple dongle and it didn't work. I'm on Android 10.

Kill your pains. 2 in 1 Hi Res Audio + PD Fast Charging adapter By Soulsound

Everyone knows normal 3.5mm audio adapter are not fit for Essential phone due to DAC chipset required. But when you are listening to music, you cannot charge your phone.
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You will never stop the movie/game on your Essential and pull off the headphone, put on the power and continue with a speaker again.
Thanks for sharing , I ordered one and it works
I'd like to see a video review and some photos of this if possible, the way this post was written sounds like an advertisement of your own product, or a product you got for free from the manufacturer (no offense). Also wondering if it's fully USB-C spec compliant so there won't be any voltage issues when using it.
Edit: Looking at OP's past posts, he is the seller.
@Teclover Bill send me one to review
Blazekitten said:
Thanks for sharing , I ordered one and it works
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Good to know!
Gamernivek said:
I'd like to see a video review and some photos of this if possible, the way this post was written sounds like an advertisement of your own product, or a product you got for free from the manufacturer (no offense). Also wondering if it's fully USB-C spec compliant so there won't be any voltage issues when using it.
Edit: Looking at OP's past posts, he is the seller.
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Happy to tell you, i developed this product, but sell by my friend.
I am open to collect all issues to improve it and listen to public what else they need.
Due to this product needs to be different with normal 2 in 1 usb c adapter (without DAC), the inside design is different. That's why all other 2 in 1 adapters cannot work with external DAC required phones, except for Moshi's. They are totally 2 different stories standing on development point.
For normal usb c adapters, the resistor lays in usb c end, however for this kind of adapters, the components have to put on the motherboard. That is to say, the motherboard will take all the risks and devices won't. The motherboard is 3 inch away from your phone, the heat won't affect the phone.
For voltage issue you are concerning, 5V comes out from power supply all the way, 2A charging into phone. One thing i have to mention: use original power supply to charge!
You are welcome to ask other users from another thread below who got this adapter!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2/accessories/finally-pixel-2-xl-audio-pd-charging-2-t3807588
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@Teclover Bill send me one to review
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I am happy to. Check the message box.
Teclover Bill said:
Happy to tell you, i developed this product, but sell by my friend.
I am open to collect all issues to improve it and listen to public what else they need.
Due to this product needs to be different with normal 2 in 1 usb c adapter (without DAC), the inside design is different. That's why all other 2 in 1 adapters cannot work with external DAC required phones, except for Moshi's. They are totally 2 different stories standing on development point.
For normal usb c adapters, the resistor lays in usb c end, however for this kind of adapters, the components have to put on the motherboard. That is to say, the motherboard will take all the risks and devices won't. The motherboard is 3 inch away from your phone, the heat won't affect the phone.
For voltage issue you are concerning, 5V comes out from power supply all the way, 2A charging into phone. One thing i have to mention: use original power supply to charge!
You are welcome to ask other users from another thread below who got this adapter!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2/accessories/finally-pixel-2-xl-audio-pd-charging-2-t3807588
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I actually purchased it to test it out. Audio quality is definitely better than the included 48kHz adapter, but I'm running into a problem with it right out of the box. There's a pulsing clicking/popping noise that can occasionally be heard at a low volume in quarter second intervals when headphones are plugged into the adapter and you're on a screen with no sound playing (volume of the phone has no bearing on this) There's also some static when switching between screens with no sound. The OEM 3.5mm adapter doesn't have these problems. Also, the clicking/popping noise can also be heard when the adapter is plugged plugged into the wall with USB-C but not plugged into the phone. So it doesn't really matter where it's plugged into, but if there's a power source, the noise is heard. I'm thinking mine may have been a dud, but would like to hear from you or the seller on wether or not this is a normal occurrence. Sent an email to your friend, the seller, yesterday, waiting for him/her to get back to me now regarding getting a possible replacement.
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I actually purchased it to test it out. Audio quality is definitely better than the included 48kHz adapter, but I'm running into a problem with it right out of the box. There's a pulsing clicking/popping noise that can occasionally be heard at a low volume in quarter second intervals when headphones are plugged into the adapter and you're on a screen with no sound playing (volume of the phone has no bearing on this) There's also some static when switching between screens with no sound. The OEM 3.5mm adapter doesn't have these problems. Also, the clicking/popping noise can also be heard when the adapter is plugged plugged into the wall with USB-C but not plugged into the phone. So it doesn't really matter where it's plugged into, but if there's a power source, the noise is heard. I'm thinking mine may have been a dud, but would like to hear from you or the seller on wether or not this is a normal occurrence. Sent an email to your friend, the seller, yesterday, waiting for him/her to get back to me now regarding getting a possible replacement.
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In order to improve it, I'hv asked my friend to send you a replacement, cost on me.
Your problem should not happen, lets see how the replacement works.
I suggest below plugging steps:
1. plug the wall charger to adapter
2. plug the adapter to phone
3. plug headphone to adapter
waiting for your report on replacement.
Teclover Bill said:
In order to improve it, I'hv asked my friend to send you a replacement, cost on me.
Your problem should not happen, lets see how the replacement works.
I suggest below plugging steps:
1. plug the wall charger to adapter
2. plug the adapter to phone
3. plug headphone to adapter
waiting for your report on replacement.
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Thanks! I'll try that from here on out. I realized I used the wrong words to describe the noise in my last post, the sound is actually more like a digital beep. It doesn't sound like distortion (well, the static when switching screens does), but more like something you'd hear from an error message popup in rapid succession.
The product you developed is very good other than this though. The audio quality is better than the OEM adapter and charging is fast. I'm excited to use this as a part of my daily routine!
I did have some observations regarding the design though if you'll hear me out - especially in regards to the cable you used. The cable is very flexible, which may make it more comfortable to use, but I have doubts on how well it can hold up. In my experience, the thiner and less rigid the cable, the more likely it is to fail. If the cable was more rigid and half the length it may hold up longer. I'm sure you have done more testing than I have in this regard though, so after a few months of use I could give you some better findings.
Gamernivek said:
Thanks! I'll try that from here on out. I realized I used the wrong words to describe the noise in my last post, the sound is actually more like a digital beep. It doesn't sound like distortion (well, the static when switching screens does), but more like something you'd hear from an error message popup in rapid succession.
The product you developed is very good other than this though. The audio quality is better than the OEM adapter and charging is fast. I'm excited to use this as a part of my daily routine!
I did have some observations regarding the design though if you'll hear me out - especially in regards to the cable you used. The cable is very flexible, which may make it more comfortable to use, but I have doubts on how well it can hold up. In my experience, the thiner and less rigid the cable, the more likely it is to fail. If the cable was more rigid and half the length it may hold up longer. I'm sure you have done more testing than I have in this regard though, so after a few months of use I could give you some better findings.
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Thanks my friend. Your voice is always important to me.
For the sounding like distortion when switching screens, lets test the replacement;
For the cable, don't worry, this is best cable we are using. My partner factory is a professional cable manufacturer for 10 years and they has all kinds of cable. This one is the most expensive one. Check the copper inside by cutting it off! Come back to me within 1 year if the cable has problem.
Teclover Bill said:
Thanks my friend. Your voice is always important to me.
For the sounding like distortion when switching screens, lets test the replacement;
For the cable, don't worry, this is best cable we are using. My partner factory is a professional cable manufacturer for 10 years and they has all kinds of cable. This one is the most expensive one. Check the copper inside by cutting it off! Come back to me within 1 year if the cable has problem.
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I actually got the replacement very quickly, and I haven't noticed the beeping noise again yet, but the static/white noise is still there when I switch screens. It doesn't happen with the OEM adapter, but it's something that's present with this one. I tried 5 pairs of headphones and found that it varies in intensity depending on which pair I'm using. The best pair I used was a pair of Nox earbuds (discontinued brand), while the worst were JVC. JBL, Xiaomi, and TaoTronics all tested about the same. When switching screens/apps with no volume playing, there's a initial pop of static, followed by a second or so of white noise before it goes away. The Nox buds were the only pair of headphones I tried that only had the initial pop (no white noise following), and at a lower volume than the others I tested. It's almost as if it's trying to pick up on sound that should be playing on the new screen, but once it can't find any it gives up. It may just be a device specific problem as I haven't seen anything regarding this on the Pixel thread, and it's not something serious that will make or break the product, but it is a minor annoyance. Since the replacement had the same problem, I'm assuming it's something that will be true for all stock.
Edit: After a few days the beeping showed up on the replacement as well. Oh well, it still works great if sound is actually playing, but if you're like me and just have your headphones plugged in all the time, it's not something that would replace the OEM adapter (for the 3.5mm adapter only).
Thanks My friend,
It is really a helpful review from you! I have asked other testers also using an Essential phone but they don't have the problem like yours. However, as long as you find problem, i have the responsibility to find them out and fix it. These days i have been looking for several essential phone users to test and waiting for there reports. Meanwhile i am also asking my team to simulate your case and fix that problem, but that need time. Although the phone model is same, it needs time and lucks to re-appear the same problem you have.
Thank you for your wonderful report, i won't ruin your hard work.
Gamernivek said:
I actually got the replacement very quickly, and I haven't noticed the beeping noise again yet, but the static/white noise is still there when I switch screens. It doesn't happen with the OEM adapter, but it's something that's present with this one. I tried 5 pairs of headphones and found that it varies in intensity depending on which pair I'm using. The best pair I used was a pair of Nox earbuds (discontinued brand), while the worst were JVC. JBL, Xiaomi, and TaoTronics all tested about the same. When switching screens/apps with no volume playing, there's a initial pop of static, followed by a second or so of white noise before it goes away. The Nox buds were the only pair of headphones I tried that only had the initial pop (no white noise following), and at a lower volume than the others I tested. It's almost as if it's trying to pick up on sound that should be playing on the new screen, but once it can't find any it gives up. It may just be a device specific problem as I haven't seen anything regarding this on the Pixel thread, and it's not something serious that will make or break the product, but it is a minor annoyance. Since the replacement had the same problem, I'm assuming it's something that will be true for all stock.
Edit: After a few days the beeping showed up on the replacement as well. Oh well, it still works great if sound is actually playing, but if you're like me and just have your headphones plugged in all the time, it's not something that would replace the OEM adapter (for the 3.5mm adapter only).
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Works great for phones with no headphone (3.5) jack. I have the Essential Phone and being able to charge and listen to music/movies via 3.5 jack at the same time has been awesome. The sound is just as good or better than the USB C to 3.5 jack that came with the phone. This should have been included in the box when the phone arrived. I loaded Viper up and it sounds even better. I will be buying again for my other phones..
Thanks so much Johnny for helping test!
I am also looking forward to know whether you have the same problem with the friend in above comments? He is also using an Essential Phone, but he found some problem when using.
I know you are busy, take your time and test it for more days before reports.
As a developer i am eager to kill all imperfect things and make it zero issue to everyone.
Thanks!
johnnycooper said:
Works great for phones with no headphone (3.5) jack. I have the Essential Phone and being able to charge and listen to music/movies via 3.5 jack at the same time has been awesome. The sound is just as good or better than the USB C to 3.5 jack that came with the phone. This should have been included in the box when the phone arrived. I loaded Viper up and it sounds even better. I will be buying again for my other phones..
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Teclover Bill said:
Thanks so much Johnny for helping test!
I am also looking forward to know whether you have the same problem with the friend in above comments? He is also using an Essential Phone, but he found some problem when using.
I know you are busy, take your time and test it for more days before reports.
As a developer i am eager to kill all imperfect things and make it zero issue to everyone.
Thanks!
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I have not had the pop sound/noise when switching apps or anything else. It really has been great. I am rooted running viper though.
Teclover Bill said:
Thanks My friend,
It is really a helpful review from you! I have asked other testers also using an Essential phone but they don't have the problem like yours. However, as long as you find problem, i have the responsibility to find them out and fix it. These days i have been looking for several essential phone users to test and waiting for there reports. Meanwhile i am also asking my team to simulate your case and fix that problem, but that need time. Although the phone model is same, it needs time and lucks to re-appear the same problem you have.
Thank you for your wonderful report, i won't ruin your hard work.
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I'm going to see if I can record the sound somehow. I'm curious as to wether it would play when connected to a speaker - I'll try that next. Kind of odd that I'm the only one who has reports of the extra noises. 2 out of 2 adapters I've tried both had the problem though, so I don't think it's a coincidence. I've also tried the adapters on 2 different Essential Phones and had the same results.
Finnaly an adapter that looks like it works as advertised .
Do you maybe have an EU store too, so that I don't have to pay an arm and a leg for customs and shipping?
Can't wait to enjoy charging and watching a movie at the same time!
To be honest, manufacturers should include an adapter like this by default if they decide to remove 3.5mm port and DAC.
Kind Regards
Teclover Bill said:
For voltage issue you are concerning, 5V comes out from power supply all the way, 2A charging into phone. One thing i have to mention: use original power supply to charge!
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So this adapter charges at lower output than OEM (3A)?
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Yes lower than 3A for smartphones. Only when you use it on laptop like Macbook will reach 3A max.
For PH-1, the max current reach 2.5A max. If you have facebook, i can send you a video showing the charging voltage/current/watt
Spey said:
So this adapter charges at lower output than OEM (3A)?
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