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I bought samsung galaxy s6 (920i version) on ebay to use on AT&T. I got a couple of ota updates so far, but I am wondering whether my s6 will get "samsung pay" app in over the air update. Mine is international model unlocked, so I was wondering what would happen next when samsung pay launches in the us. (Maybe samsung pay app will be on galaxy store?)
Samsung Pay is built-in to your S6. We only need to wait for its implementation on the vendor side.
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Samsung Pay is built-in to your S6. We only need to wait for its implementation on the vendor side.
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But don't I need a software update to install samsung pay app (which definitely isn't present on my phone yet) on my phone? Samsung website on samsung pay says I will need a ota software update to install samsung pay on s6. What I am wondering is whether the update that will install samsung pay system will come to my phone, which is international galaxy s6 (920i)although samsung pay is only available in the us and korea.
Yes, you would need a service payment app. This will be available once vendors/credit card companies implement Samsung Pay.
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Yes, you would need a service payment app. This will be available once vendors/credit card companies implement Samsung Pay.
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Thanks for your reply! But do you think I will be able to download those apps even though mine (international -singapore version of s6) doesn't get those apps via ota update (as samsung says they will start the service only in us and korea?)
To be able to use it your local credit card company must 1st support it together with local vendors. As youe mentioned only US and south Korean markets will go 1st. If successful other markets including yours will follow.
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To be able to use it your local credit card company must 1st support it together with local vendors. As youe mentioned only US and south Korean markets will go 1st. If successful other markets including yours will follow.
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Yes as I am in the United States, samsung pay will be supported from Sept 28th. On that day, carrier-branded phones (at&t/tmobile)will get software update that will install samsung pay system on their phones. But will my phone (unlocked international) get software update that will install samsung pay on Sept 28th?? That is exact question of mine... sorry for bugging but it is very important question for me thanks as always!
Call your US credit card company for details. I feel they can already answer most of your questions as the implementation date is near. It is they who will give you credit and use it thru your S6.
I've found the link to be able to download the Samsung Pay Beta .apk file but I haven't figured out how to get it to install. Does someone else want to try? I'm stuck on a Samsung S6 Edge running 5.0.2. I wonder if you have to have 5.1.1 to run it.
Korea Link - https://kr.mpay.samsung.com/apk
US Link - https://us.mpay.samsung.com/apk
Here's a download link for the Samsung Pay .apk file I found on the Korean link. It lets me install it on my Samsung S6 Edge+ running android 5.1.1.
https://mega.nz/#!cRFkUAhT!8h7kOQ8opFy3YWal7xgw68EByv6dOsgepURGy9C005E
If you don't get a OTA with Samsung Pay, you can probably install the APK from apkmirror or something like that. I would be surprised if Samsung Pay checks model number instead of carrier/location. If it is anything like Android Wallet/Pay, you can install and use it in the country where is active regardless of phone model number. I.e. I have used Android Pay in the US but I can not use it back in Denmark.
roydok said:
Samsung Pay is built-in to your S6. We only need to wait for its implementation on the vendor side.
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From what I've read, it's only built-in on the Note 5 and Galaxy S6 Edge+. The regular S6 and S6 edge will receive an ota update to enable it (I think this means the OTA will be Android 5.1.1). I am using the SM-G920i (seems to be the Australian version) on AT&T and I received the 5.1.1 update a few days ago. I did manage to download and install the APK from the Korean version of the site, signing in with my regular samsung account (same as on the phone) and just did a google translate on the page to find where I needed to tap to download the file. My cousin has the S6 on Sprint with OS v5.0.2 and the APK didn't install, so you definitely need to be on AT LEAST 5.1.1 for it to install.
Mine installed and runs, but won't go past the screen with the "start" button - I'm guessing b/c the beta hasn't activated in the US yet (which I think is slated for 8/28) with a full release in the US market on 9/25.
hopkinsdn said:
It seems Samsung has created a hotline in the U.S for testers. +1-844-726-7297
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I called today and they told me to download the Samsung Plus app from the Google playstore. I downloaded it agreed to the terms and logged in and then inside the app there was a link that said "Join Samsung Pay Beta". So far it doesn't do anything, but it seems promising that it might work tomorrow after the beta has officially begun.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.samsung.oh
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Just bought an 920i on eBay. You guys get this working after the service went live?
I think the Samsung Pay need time till it reach the International Galaxy S6.
Mistar Muffin said:
Just bought an 920i on eBay. You guys get this working after the service went live?
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Nope, but in the same boat as you and several others here - got a 920i on AT&T here in the U.S. But seems that Samsung Pay comes bundled with an OS update that of course our handsets will not see as it is targeted to specific country\carrier handset variants. Hoping someone here figures out how to back the apks and associated frameworks off one of those working devices so we can perhaps apply them to ours.
I also have a Galaxy S6 G920i that I bought on e-bay. Mine came from Singapore. I thought I was smart by buying an locked phone. I thought for sure I'd get all the updates sooner that everyone else. FAIL! T-Mobile variants get most updates about a week or two before me.
What really sucks is one of the main reasons I wanted the S6 was samsung pay. Had I knew I was going to run in to this problem I would never have bought it.
I too use my G920i on AT&T and have been searching the web like crazy for a way to get Samsung pay to work on my phone. Has anyone had any success getting it to work on a G920i or G920f? If you have, please share your wisdom.
Any luck guys ? with samsung pay on s6 G920i?
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jimmiekain said:
I also have a Galaxy S6 G920i that I bought on e-bay. Mine came from Singapore. I thought I was smart by buying an locked phone. I thought for sure I'd get all the updates sooner that everyone else. FAIL! T-Mobile variants get most updates about a week or two before me.
What really sucks is one of the main reasons I wanted the S6 was samsung pay. Had I knew I was going to run in to this problem I would never have bought it.
I too use my G920i on AT&T and have been searching the web like crazy for a way to get Samsung pay to work on my phone. Has anyone had any success getting it to work on a G920i or G920f? If you have, please share your wisdom.
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i just s6 G920i from b&h and wondering if i can install samsung pay. i got to get $200 giftcard from samsung.com
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Any luck guys ? with samsung pay on s6 G920i?
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i just s6 G920i from b&h and wondering if i can install samsung pay. i got to get $200 giftcard from samsung.com
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Nope. No SamsungPay for unlocked versions like ours.
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You need to wait until Samsung and your carrier enables it for you.
lokjianming said:
You need to wait until Samsung and your carrier enables it for you.
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Can i call att and ask them to enable it or threaten them that i will leave them for tmobile? (my contract is up and I can leave them anytime without paying penalty?)
Folks, I just received my new Gear S2, and was surprised to see that Samsung Pay wasn't installed, or even available yet for this device. Does anyone know when we will be seeing it here in the states?
Thanks so much in advance!
I asked samsung support. The rep on the other end kept saying the gear s2 doesnt support it.
I told him about all the marketing that was done and he played dumb.
Very dissatisfied here.
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Actually the rep was kinda right. i read an article online somewhere that said samsung pay uses "mst" as well as nfc, this is the main difference to android pay but the gear s2 doesnt have mst installed. i dont know very much about these two techs im not sure if its a hardware or software installation or both perhaps but i do know samsung pay needs both to function, at least the current version does anyway. although samsung did say they would be releasing samsung pay for their wearables but didnt specify if it would be for existing models or a brand new model entirely
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Actually the rep was kinda right. i read an article online somewhere that said samsung pay uses "mst" as well as nfc, this is the main difference to android pay but the gear s2 doesnt have mst installed. i dont know very much about these two techs im not sure if its a hardware or software installation or both perhaps but i do know samsung pay needs both to function, at least the current version does anyway. although samsung did say they would be releasing samsung pay for their wearables but didnt specify if it would be for existing models or a brand new model entirely
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MST is magnetic secure transmission, it is a hardware chip that emulates the magnetic strip on a credit/debit card.
NFC is near field communications. It uses a coil in the back of your phone to transmit signal to a coil in a receiver.
NFC is used in Android Pay, Apple Pay, and Samsung Pay (when you place your phone on a terminal equipped with NFC)
MST is used only by Samsung Pay, it is what allows you to use Samsung Pay on terminals not equipped with NFC. It is a 'backup' and not necessary for Samsung Pay to work. This is why Samsung Pay is supposed to work on the gear S2 someday. It will be limited to NFC equipped terminals though.
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Unless Samsung drops the ball, in 2016
Originalphan said:
Actually the rep was kinda right. i read an article online somewhere that said samsung pay uses "mst" as well as nfc, this is the main difference to android pay but the gear s2 doesnt have mst installed. i dont know very much about these two techs im not sure if its a hardware or software installation or both perhaps but i do know samsung pay needs both to function, at least the current version does anyway. although samsung did say they would be releasing samsung pay for their wearables but didnt specify if it would be for existing models or a brand new model entirely
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Samsung has repeatedly said that the Gear S2 NFC hardware capability will be enabled via a firmware update to make it work for Samsung Pay (using NFC only, as it does not have MST hardware) some time in 2016, in some countries, for some phones. They advertise it on the Gear S2 page on their global website. Scroll down to the bottom.
http://www.samsung.com/global/galaxy/gear-s2/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRvfSKw6B_Y
This looks cool, cannot wait for Samsung Pay to be working on the gear S2!
nmnm4alll said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRvfSKw6B_Y
This looks cool, cannot wait for Samsung Pay to be working on the gear S2!
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But thats different, in Korea we already have few things for the NFC capabilities but still no Samsung Pay :|
Well, here it is September & S2 Bluetooth users have had Samsung Pay for over a month but it seems Samsung is sticking it to us 3G users for some unknown reason(since they won't say ANYTHING as to why we can't get it). At least they could explain to their customers why a key feature we expected and they STILL advertise isn't working. It might stop me from filing a complaint with my state Attorney Generals office.
I thought I saw something that it is harder to integrate it with the carriers on the 3G.
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I picked up a GS3 frontier while visiting the US. It has Samsung Pay pre loaded. I cannot get it to work because, it will not recognize my Canadian address? Any solutions?
greatg said:
I picked up a GS3 frontier while visiting the US. It has Samsung Pay pre loaded. I cannot get it to work because, it will not recognize my Canadian address? Any solutions?
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Is it the postal code that causes the issue or can you not*even type in your physical address?
Sword Fish said:
Is it the postal code that causes the issue or can you not*even type in your physical address?
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Postal code.
greatg said:
Postal code.
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When I put Samsung Pay on my phone I had the same issue. I just put*a US ZIP code in and noticed CIBC didn't*seem to care what I put. Try putting in a US ZIP and see if that works. 90210 for instance.
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When I put Samsung Pay on my phone I had the same issue. I just put*a US ZIP code in and noticed CIBC didn't*seem to care what I put. Try putting in a US ZIP and see if that works. 90210 for instance.
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Go figure! That worked. So much for address verification!
greatg said:
Go figure! That worked. So much for address verification!
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Please let me know if*everything works using Samsung Pay from your G3. Thanks...
greatg said:
I picked up a GS3 frontier while visiting the US. It has Samsung Pay pre loaded. I cannot get it to work because, it will not recognize my Canadian address? Any solutions?
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can you tell me, when you first initialized your*watch and connected*it to Gear Manager, were you in the US or Canada?
Sword Fish said:
can you tell me, when you first initialized your*watch and connected*it to Gear Manager, were you in the US or Canada?
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I was in Canada.
greatg said:
Go figure! That worked. So much for address verification!
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What model of smartwatch did you buy in the US (LTE or not)?
lor_s said:
What model of smartwatch did you buy in the US (LTE or not)?
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Non-LTE. The LTE (e-sim) are not supported in Canada.
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Non-LTE. The LTE (e-sim) are not supported in Canada.
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Thank you! Is it necessary to have any connection between Samsung pay on smartphone and Samsung pay on SG3? I have S7 edge SM-935F and Samsung Pay doesn't work in Canada although I flashed it with German DBT Firmware. I don't know why because some people wrote that it should work, but it is another problem. Could you clarify please, will Samsung pay on SG3 work without any connection with Samsung pay in smartphone?
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Thank you! Is it necessary to have any connection between Samsung pay on smartphone and Samsung pay on SG3? I have S7 edge SM-935F and Samsung Pay doesn't work in Canada although I flashed it with German DBT Firmware. I don't know why because some people wrote that it should work, but it is another problem. Could you clarify please, will Samsung pay on SG3 work without any connection with Samsung pay in smartphone?
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Card added only via Gear Manager app from phone.
se47 said:
Card added only via Gear Manager app from phone.
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I'm sorry for meticulousness ). Does Gear Manager add card to Samsung pay on smartphone or directly to Samsung pay on SG3? In other words, is Samsung pay on SG3 able to work without Samsung pay on Smartphone?
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Thank you! Is it necessary to have any connection between Samsung pay on smartphone and Samsung pay on SG3? I have S7 edge SM-935F and Samsung Pay doesn't work in Canada although I flashed it with German DBT Firmware. I don't know why because some people wrote that it should work, but it is another problem. Could you clarify please, will Samsung pay on SG3 work without any connection with Samsung pay in smartphone?
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I am told that SP works with rooted phones so the answer to your question would be yes, SP on the watch should work without SP on your phone. The issue you need to address is, does the Gear S3 that you own have the SP app already installed? Not all Gear S3's come with the app installed. At this time, only US, Australia and Singapore watches come with it pre-installed. My Canadian watch does NOT have this installed. There is no way that I am aware of that you can*sideload it either. At least I haven't figured it out.
lor_s said:
I'm sorry for meticulousness ). Does Gear Manager add card to Samsung pay on smartphone or directly to Samsung pay on SG3? In other words, is Samsung pay on SG3 able to work without Samsung pay on Smartphone?
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You can pay with a watch without samrtphone, but add a card in watch will not work without a smartphone.
Sorry for my bad english.
Can your extract the samsung pay from your watch so the rest of us can sideload it?
Newbie here, but I'm looking to buy a refurbished GS3 Frontier that's been factory reset. The watch is in US, and I'm in Canada (yes, I'm polite too ). Will the watch work in Canada? I'm running on 4G/LTE from Public Mobile on my S7 Edge.
Footballer88 said:
Newbie here, but I'm looking to buy a refurbished GS3 Frontier that's been factory reset. The watch is in US, and I'm in Canada (yes, I'm polite too ). Will the watch work in Canada? I'm running on 4G/LTE from Public Mobile on my S7 Edge.
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Yes it will
Does the A7 (2018) have Samsung Pay? On the GSM Arena listing of the specs for this it lists that it has Samsung Pay. I just got the phone today and can't seem to find it
Make sure if Samsung Pay is available in your country.
kamil79123 said:
Make sure if Samsung Pay is available in your country.
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USA yes it is
Maybe just try install Samsung Pay from Google Store?
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Does the A7 (2018) have Samsung Pay? On the GSM Arena listing of the specs for this it lists that it has Samsung Pay. I just got the phone today and can't seem to find it
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No, A7 2018 is not compatible with Samsung Pay.
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No, A7 2018 is not compatible with Samsung Pay.
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https://www.samsung.com/my/samsung-pay/supported-devices/
Seems like A7 is compatible with NFC paying via Samsung Pay.
Also in Russia software A7 comes with Samsung Pay preinstalled.
kamil79123 said:
https://www.samsung.com/my/samsung-pay/supported-devices/
Seems like A7 is compatible with NFC paying via Samsung Pay.
Also in Russia software A7 comes with Samsung Pay preinstalled.
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Well, this phone supports NFC payments, but be careful because Samsung Pay is not available for this device in all countries. The only way to be sure if it is compatible is checking the list of available devices in the Samsung's webpage from your country.
For example, Spain was one of the first countries implementing Samsung Pay but the A7 2018 is not compatible here.
Hello everyone! I got the note 20 ultra in another country where samsung pay isn't supported(i didn't care because it isn't supported in my country either).
But now it is supported (perfect timing), but still isn't supported in origin country where i bought it. I've tried factory resetting with sims installed to trigger region change, didn't work(although 2 sims was installed from different countries, it could be an issue, but I'm tired of resetting the phone and guessing).
Then I tried installing my countries firmware from sammobile.com using odin. It went horrible, odin was stuck 60% at super.img and my phone turned to a brick. But installing original firmware worked and I've managed to restore my phone.
When downloading the samsung pay app from play stores it check for compatibility and then says that it is coming soon.
Tried to download it from galaxy store, but the app isn't there.
Is there anything I can do to make it work here? Am I stuck with samsung phone that doesn't support samsung pay?
GalaxySFUN said:
Hello everyone! I got the note 20 ultra in another country where samsung pay isn't supported(i didn't care because it isn't supported in my country either).
But now it is supported (perfect timing), but still isn't supported in origin country where i bought it. I've tried factory resetting with sims installed to trigger region change, didn't work(although 2 sims was installed from different countries, it could be an issue, but I'm tired of resetting the phone and guessing).
Then I tried installing my countries firmware from sammobile.com using odin. It went horrible, odin was stuck 60% at super.img and my phone turned to a brick. But installing original firmware worked and I've managed to restore my phone.
When downloading the samsung pay app from play stores it check for compatibility and then says that it is coming soon.
Tried to download it from galaxy store, but the app isn't there.
Is there anything I can do to make it work here? Am I stuck with samsung phone that doesn't support samsung pay?
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You're stuck, at least as far as the phone is concerned (more on that in a minute). Samsung Pay is apparently driven by the point-of-sale country CSC, which you can't change. I have the same issue with my S9+ SM-N9650, which is TPA (Panama) even though I booted it up with a Canadian SIM. As you mentioned, the Samsung Pay app from the Play Store will check for availability (based on the point-of-sale CSC) and then inform you if Samsung Pay is available based on its availability in that country - so you won't be able to use it on the phone until it is.
I get around this by using it on my Gear S3, which has a Canadian CSC, and therefore Samsung Pay, and links to the Wearables app on the phone. I actually prefer using Samsung Pay on my watch, so the availability on my phone is a non-issue for me (except for the fact you can't add debit cards to the watch). That said, one of the reasons I ordered my Note20 Ultra from Hong Kong is that they have Samsung Pay there, so it will work on the phone, which is a plus.
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You're stuck, at least as far as the phone is concerned (more on that in a minute). Samsung Pay is apparently driven by the point-of-sale country CSC, which you can't change. I have the same issue with my S9+ SM-N9650, which is TPA (Panama) even though I booted it up with a Canadian SIM. As you mentioned, the Samsung Pay app from the Play Store will check for availability (based on the point-of-sale CSC) and then inform you if Samsung Pay is available based on its availability in that country - so you won't be able to use it on the phone until it is.
I get around this by using it on my Gear S3, which has a Canadian CSC, and therefore Samsung Pay, and links to the Wearables app on the phone. I actually prefer using Samsung Pay on my watch, so the availability on my phone is a non-issue for me (except for the fact you can't add debit cards to the watch). That said, one of the reasons I ordered my Note20 Ultra from Hong Kong is that they have Samsung Pay there, so it will work on the phone, which is a plus.
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Oh, no...
So if sometime in the future samsung pay will become supported in the country where I bought the phone, I'll be able to change the region of samsung pay and start using it?
And I didn't understand about that I can't add debit cards to the watch, do you mean you can only use credit cards? Cause I don't use credit cards.
God, I switched to android again after 8 years of using ios, last android phone was galaxy s(it's funny how this forum kept my account for all these years). And only thing I'm missing so much is apple pay.
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Oh, no...
So if sometime in the future samsung pay will become supported in the country where I bought the phone, I'll be able to change the region of samsung pay and start using it?
And I didn't understand about that I can't add debit cards to the watch, do you mean you can only use credit cards? Cause I don't use credit cards.
God, I switched to android again after 8 years of using ios, last android phone was galaxy s(it's funny how this forum kept my account for all these years). And only thing I'm missing so much is apple pay.
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No, you will never be able to change the region for Samsung Pay. Folks can use Samsung Pay on the Hong Kong Note20 Ultra because it is available in Hong Kong - but it is the Hong Kong version of Samsung Pay.
And that's correct - at least here in Canada on the Gear S3 (YMMV for newer watches and other countries - suggest you check Samsung's website for what's available on a given watch in your country), you can only use credit cards in Samsung Pay on the watch.
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No, you will never be able to change the region for Samsung Pay. Folks can use Samsung Pay on the Hong Kong Note20 Ultra because it is available in Hong Kong - but it is the Hong Kong version of Samsung Pay.
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But you can add your cards even they are not from Hong Kong bank?
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But you can add your cards even they are not from Hong Kong bank?
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Other users have successfully added a wide variety of cards even though they are not Hong Kong based. That said, in my experience, some cards (particularly debit cards) won't work in Samsung Pay from another country. Suggest you check out the thread on the Hong Kong Note20 Ultra for more info.
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No, you will never be able to change the region for Samsung Pay. Folks can use Samsung Pay on the Hong Kong Note20 Ultra because it is available in Hong Kong - but it is the Hong Kong version of Samsung Pay.
And that's correct - at least here in Canada on the Gear S3 (YMMV for newer watches and other countries - suggest you check Samsung's website for what's available on a given watch in your country), you can only use credit cards in Samsung Pay on the watch.
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That's sad, I should've been more patient and buy my Note after I got back home. Who would know...
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Other users have successfully added a wide variety of cards even though they are not Hong Kong based. That said, in my experience, some cards (particularly debit cards) won't work in Samsung Pay from another country. Suggest you check out the thread on the Hong Kong Note20 Ultra for more info.
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Now I can put up with it. Thank you very much for your time.
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Now I can put up with it. Thank you very much for your time.
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I live in Japan, use US debit card and credit cards on HK N20U... Samsung Pay works just fine... It is the HK version but no issues using it... Samsung Pay is based off of the phone's original country... As far I know there is not a way to flash and change it
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Now I can put up with it. Thank you very much for your time.
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Happy to help. Just so you know, as I think you're new here, hitting the 'Thanks' button on a helpful post is always appreciated...