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Tell Samsung yourself that GPS is worthless - www.galaxyshelp.com

Samsung just released their official help site for the Galaxy S. I just finished a chat session with tech support concerning the GPS issues. Basically, he said they are aware of it and the engineers are working on it. If enough of us report the issue, I'm sure they will feel the pressure to release a fix to us ASAP.
You dont need to register, when it ask you if you have registered you phone, just hit "yes". Then it will bring you to ways you can contact them.

ultra spikey said:
Samsung just released their official help site for the Galaxy S. I just finished a chat session with tech support concerning the GPS issues. Basically, he said they are aware of it and the engineers are working on it. If enough of us report the issue, I'm sure they will feel the pressure to release a fix to us ASAP.
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I must have gotten a bad agent, cause she told me there was no patch or fix (at least at the time), and she told me to try everything I've already done. *Sigh* I think I just have bad luck when talking to people online or over the phone.

How will annoying them get it done faster? The help agent isn't going to tell the software engineers to work faster.

caelestis2 said:
How will annoying them get it done faster? The help agent isn't going to tell the software engineers to work faster.
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Most help lines mark down the general reason for a call. Later the stats are compiled to determine trends. If gps ranks high someone will probably notice and decide it is important.

yup!
Anyway I don't have a big issue with the gps. Just wait 60 seconds and it's good ( in Los Angeles, suburban areas. )

k2snowboards88 said:
Most help lines mark down the general reason for a call. Later the stats are compiled to determine trends. If gps ranks high someone will probably notice and decide it is important.
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This is how we do it at Sprint.
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I have no gps issues after changing the settings.
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ultra spikey said:
Samsung just released their official help site for the Galaxy S. I just finished a chat session with tech support concerning the GPS issues. Basically, he said they are aware of it and the engineers are working on it. If enough of us report the issue, I'm sure they will feel the pressure to release a fix to us ASAP.
You dont need to register, when it ask you if you have registered you phone, just hit "yes". Then it will bring you to ways you can contact them.
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Any chance you can provide the link. Do a search on Google and all kind of stuff comes up.

ewingr said:
Any chance you can provide the link. Do a search on Google and all kind of stuff comes up.
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Uh...it's in the title of the thread

Emailed them and sent them links to all forums that discusses GPS issues.

Got on galaxyshelp.com and talked to a rep. The second I mentioned GPS he gave me a phone number to call and said that higher up reps would have to discuss the issue with me. I'll try calling sometime this weekend and see what I can find out.

zorphnog said:
Uh...it's in the title of the thread
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Sorry. Didn't notice. I'm accustomed to people putting clickable links to use.

While you are at it, tell them you want them to fix the IO glitch, add some more audio codecs, fix the fm radio, and optimize touchwiz for the next patch.

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Sorry. Didn't notice. I'm accustomed to people putting clickable links to use.
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http://www.galaxyshelp.com/

ultra spikey said:
Samsung just released their official help site for the Galaxy S. I just finished a chat session with tech support concerning the GPS issues. Basically, he said they are aware of it and the engineers are working on it. If enough of us report the issue, I'm sure they will feel the pressure to release a fix to us ASAP.
You dont need to register, when it ask you if you have registered you phone, just hit "yes". Then it will bring you to ways you can contact them.
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wow i said this about a couple of days ago in a diff post and no one replied

This is the email I received from them:
Thank you for your inquiry. We understand your distress concerning the GPS feature of your Samsung Captivate. We recommend obtaining the initial lock while outdoors in clear view of the sky.
You can also try this steps:
You must select Settings > Location and security > Use wireless networks or Use GPS satellites.
Regarding your concern on the GPS capabilities of your phone, Samsung Mobile is aware that under certain conditions, the GPS on our U.S. Galaxy S devices may not be meeting performance expectations. We are diligently evaluating the situation and will provide an update as soon as possible.
We are committed to your satisfaction and would like to assist you in finding a resolution to this issue. We invite you to call Samsung Customer Support by phone at our toll free number 1-888-987-4357 between the hours 7:00 a.m. to 9:00 p.m. Monday through Friday, Central Standard Time. You will be transferred to a high level of support regarding your GPS problem on the phone.
Again, we do apologize for any inconvenience this may cause you. Thank you for your continued interest in Samsung products. We hope that your future dealings with Samsung are much more enjoyable.
It is our hope that you will allow us another opportunity to serve you.
Sincerely,
Technical Support
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Not keeping my hopes up since this just could be a uniformed message.

Samsung must suck at gps it was broken on the moment
My friend has Samsung from uscellular and now galaxy that's 3 diff models with Android from Samsung that I know of gps being broken out of box
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jhego said:
This is the email I received from them:
Not keeping my hopes up since this just could be a uniformed message.
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I got the same message so that is their current canned response.

transfer phone and all apps on it to another user

i have a galaxy s2 with many free and paid apps on it. i wish to transfer ownership of the phone and all applications including paid ones to a friend so that he does not have to buy all the paid apps on it again.
i would think it is possible since i paid for use of them if i wish to give up use under my name and assign use to someone else using the same phone i should be able to. i cannot find a way to do this in play store or in appbrain.
does anyone have a clue how to do this or know where to point me for instructions?
i would have better luck contacting Abraham Lincoln than i would trying to contact google.
as it is the phone will probably try to self destruct once i change the gmail account it runs under so i want to have this in place in the stores so it can verify and re-get the apps if necessary without hassle since the stores would know that he owns the phone and apps..
any help would be greatly appreciated.
Cody

I think you should try to contact Abraham Lincoln, that seems like a good plan of attack. Just Google his contact info...
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Apex_Strider said:
I think you should try to contact Abraham Lincoln, that seems like a good plan of attack. Just Google his contact info...
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LOL might be.. they seem to think of everything i cannot believe they didn't think of this. transfer of equipment and associated 'licenses' is very common.

Titanium Backup
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sweeds said:
Titanium Backup
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i admit i am not familiar with titanium backup. outside of restoring any odd apps onto the phone so they run again, would that list the paid apps withi play store so when he gets an update to an app they wont try to charge him again? i want his apps account to totally recognize the s2 and all apps as 'his' without question so they will not try to charge him for them. i will have no rights at all to those apps on that phone. i have a galaxy note that i had to pay for all the apps again for it which is as it shoudl be.. it is a different phone...
i want to hand him the phone set up for his account such that when he goes to do anything with play store or appbrain they will recognize the phone and all apps on it free and paid, as his.

It is not possible to transfer apps from one user to another. It isn't even possible to transfer them to a different Google account that you use.
Read the Google terms and conditions and you'll see this on there - nothing you can do about it.
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SimonTS said:
It is not possible to transfer apps from one user to another. It isn't even possible to transfer them to a different Google account that you use.
Read the Google terms and conditions and you'll see this on there - nothing you can do about it.
Sent from the darkest corners of my mind.
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thank you. no i have not read their drivel. so then they on one hand scream freedom from being locked to a specific provider, and turn around and lock the phone in a far more sadistic and restrictive way. what we need is a company who believes in total freedom and implements such. they are no better than apple then..
wonderful.
i do not find a 'resolved/close' thread button so i will consider this thread closed.

Only one solution
gndmstr said:
thank you. no i have not read their drivel. so then they on one hand scream freedom from being locked to a specific provider, and turn around and lock the phone in a far more sadistic and restrictive way. what we need is a company who believes in total freedom and implements such. they are no better than apple then..
wonderful.
i do not find a 'resolved/close' thread button so i will consider this thread closed.
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The only one solution is to put your gmail account on the phone of your friend. But of course he will have an access to all your mails etc, so I don't think it is a good solution !

HappyDr0id said:
The only one solution is to put your gmail account on the phone of your friend. But of course he will have an access to all your mails etc, so I don't think it is a good solution !
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no. i did that once a few years ago for someone i trusted. that person abused the trust and bought all kinds of expensive apps and used my gmail email account as their own. i had to close everything out and start fresh so i will never do that again.
there is no earthly reason why a phone and all its installed apps cannot be moved from one account to another except google's apparent need for control or laziness in coding the proper routines.

gndmstr said:
thank you. no i have not read their drivel. so then they on one hand scream freedom from being locked to a specific provider, and turn around and lock the phone in a far more sadistic and restrictive way. what we need is a company who believes in total freedom and implements such. they are no better than apple then..
wonderful.
i do not find a 'resolved/close' thread button so i will consider this thread closed.
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They may well use an Open-Source software for their devices, which is a fantastic thing, but they are a business and exist to make money. You don't 'own' the apps when you buy them - you are just getting the right to use them. Anything beyond that would be considered on-selling, even if you are making no money from it. Do you think that Apple would let you transfer apps to a different account? Or Microsoft for that matter?

SimonTS said:
They may well use an Open-Source software for their devices, which is a fantastic thing, but they are a business and exist to make money. You don't 'own' the apps when you buy them - you are just getting the right to use them. Anything beyond that would be considered on-selling, even if you are making no money from it. Do you think that Apple would let you transfer apps to a different account? Or Microsoft for that matter?
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when you pay for an app you pay for a license to use that app. there is no reason why you cannot transfer that license to another person as long as you give up all rights to use that license yourself. i have done this with many microsoft applications and they support it. or at least they did as of the beginnings of xp. i would give the original disks to the person, remove the application from my machine and then i called msoft and advised them of the license transfer. they took the info and were happy. apple simply is not a contender in this situation. they are all about control. even moreso than microsoft and i would never have believed i just said that. dont get me wrong they make some incredible hardware and systems, i just totally am at odds with their business philosophies.

Phone hacked need advise and guidance

Hi
I know that this will sound like another hacked story but I know what to do.
My phone got hacked couple of months back.i didnt know it was untill the hacker started to leave clues. It was then that i started really payibg attention to everything going on. but keeping quiet abort it so that he or she thinks i didn't know
I know of 3 incidents that may have conpronised my security coupled by the fact that I did not practice password hygiene or unique ones for all accounts. I know that its totally my fault and i am not goings to blane Android os. So please dont think of this as one of tjose posts
What i now need is help in understanding what tondo next.
Little details on what happens, lets say i get search for some one on Facebook. The same is Charles smith, I Finish off my search and open Instagram boom i see a pictures where recommended shows a google search page where Charles is written and the Google auto complete is giving options .
Happened twice
I tumlr and I don't really post anything in fact My blog is totally blank. Suddenly i have people followings me and they tend of hame my nick name as their user id .the id displays my WhatsApp status updates.
These and just two examples i have more but i think everyone gets whats going on.
things i have done to prevent such occurences factory formatting the phones mac abd router. Gotten new routers and ready to flash a custom firmware for them.
Password changes .everything.wps2 aes wifi password with random numbers upper case lower case n symbols
Passwords are written on paper without a electronic backup and under lock and key.
I thought that maybe its a key logger but i took my moto x2 n moto e2 to the service center and got them to re load official software.
Two days later bam the same thing.
Any suggestion on where the weakness is ?
The problem is that I am kind of tired if thi
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Check account sync settings if it is on more applications can use various private data.
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i dont understand?
can u explain , i have sync on should I not have it
on different note does anyone suggest rooting and installing something that can isolate and restrict data from being accessed. now i know that exposed does that and marshmallow will work that out. but any other guidance ?

Did you use a virus or malware scanner?
Are there any apps you didn't install on your phone?

If i were you, i would start with doing the following steps by their exact order to get rid of the hacker and operate on a "safe" system.
1- Backup personal files to pc and deep scan them with virus scanner, make sure they're clean.
2- Unlock the bootloader of device and flash every image manually with fastboot from stock factory image.
3- After flashing the images, go to stock recovery and wipe data / factory reset and wipe cache for a complete, untouched system.
4- Change account passwords with stuff that are unrelated to you. I mean if you made a google search for firedance, don't include dance or fire in any your passwords.
* also change the " forgot my password " questions and their answers.
5- Once you boot the system, download any ota packages from the manufacturer to be sure you'd be on a safer and patched software for security.
For future securtity, be sure to check apps permissions before installing anything from google play or external places. Don't root your device and don't enable USB Debugging in developer options. Hope it helps.

Semseddin said:
If i were you, i would start with doing the following steps by their exact order to get rid of the hacker and operate on a "safe" system.
1- Backup personal files to pc and deep scan them with virus scanner, make sure they're clean.
2- Unlock the bootloader of device and flash every image manually with fastboot from stock factory image.
3- After flashing the images, go to stock recovery and wipe data / factory reset and wipe cache for a complete, untouched system.
4- Change account passwords with stuff that are unrelated to you. I mean if you made a google search for firedance, don't include dance or fire in any your passwords.
* also change the " forgot my password " questions and their answers.
5- Once you boot the system, download any ota packages from the manufacturer to be sure you'd be on a safer and patched software for security.
For future securtity, be sure to check apps permissions before installing anything from google play or external places. Don't root your device and don't enable USB Debugging in developer options. Hope it helps.
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Don't Root your device? Don't check USB debugging? Seriously? That is your answer? Wow, do you work for Verizon or AT&T by some chance? Sorry, but with Root and some nicely placed Xposed modules, this persons phone or tablet would be more safe than anything g Verizon or AT &THE could conjure up. You are a dope! Lol! Seriously, go away. Bother another community. ?
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Jaytronics said:
Don't Root your device? Don't check USB debugging? Seriously? That is your answer? Wow, do you work for Verizon or AT&T by some chance? Sorry, but with Root and some nicely placed Xposed modules, this persons phone or tablet would be more safe than anything g Verizon or AT &THE could conjure up. You are a dope! Lol! Seriously, go away. Bother another community. ?
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Pardon me but where does that come from ? Made me laugh. Since this is security forum, the first priority is security not your "nicely put xposed modules whatever that means". It is said many times by security experts rooting an android device removes a big portion of layer of security. I unfortunately don't work for AT&T or Verizon but i wish i worked for them for a nice salary.
This one is coming from the recognized developer and moderator of XDA Android Security forum. Someone who have exploited devices and found vulrenabiliies that you can't even dream of. Lets say i am a "dope" and you're the smart guy. Are jcase, steve kondik dopes as well ?
http://securitywatch.pcmag.com/secu...-have-android-settings-from-a-security-expert
http://www.dailytech.com/CyanogenMod+Creator+Tells+Android+Users+to+Rethink+Rooting/article33058.htm ( yeah, even steve kondik doesn't approve rooting for general users.
https://blog.kaspersky.com/rooting-and-jailbreaking/1979/ " Kasperksky a security platform well known for years are also against rooting.
Think again if you can who is the dope, now, go bother in your nicely put xposed modules forums for the sake of security. :good:

Semseddin said:
Pardon me but where does that come from ? Made me laugh. Since this is security forum, the first priority is security not your "nicely put xposed modules whatever that means". It is said many times by security experts rooting an android device removes a big portion of layer of security. I unfortunately don't work for AT&T or Verizon but i wish i worked for them for a nice salary.
This one is coming from the recognized developer and moderator of XDA Android Security forum. Someone who have exploited devices and found vulrenabiliies that you can't even dream of. Lets say i am a "dope" and you're the smart guy. Are jcase, steve kondik dopes as well ?
http://securitywatch.pcmag.com/secu...-have-android-settings-from-a-security-expert
http://www.dailytech.com/CyanogenMod+Creator+Tells+Android+Users+to+Rethink+Rooting/article33058.htm ( yeah, even steve kondik doesn't approve rooting for general users.
https://blog.kaspersky.com/rooting-and-jailbreaking/1979/ " Kasperksky a security platform well known for years are also against rooting.
Think again if you can who is the dope, now, go bother in your nicely put xposed modules forums for the sake of security. :good:
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For a dope, I suppose that Root is a security risk. But, just because a device is not Rooted, does not mean it is secure by any stretch of the imagination. Truthfully, they are more unsecured if locked out from the user. That is, if the person is not a dope. What I am saying is that your advice, for the OP to take every update and not Root, was not really that helpful. If the OP installed an app that was a risk, then all the updates and non Root, will not help them. Now, if you were to show them, that if they were to Root, and use certain apps and modules on their device. Then they could keep a better eye out for potential problems. But, even if they did as I just said. If the OP is being a dope, and installing apps that, let's say, they obtained from a torrent site. Then, well, dope would be a fitting title for them as well.
And, if those recognized developers stated that Root was not good at all. Then yes, dope would be a fitting application of the word. Root is only bad for those that are dopes.
I believe that you inadvertently called the OP a dope. You did not help them all that well. What you did was help them to get rid of the problem temporarily. Do we know who apps are on their device? It would be a good idea to know these things. Also, where did they get these apps from? Kind of a big deal there.
But, if you were wondering what it is that I am talking about in regards to xposed. Look it up.
http://repo.xposed.info/module/de.robv.android.xposed.installer
I suggest the OP do the same. As well as anyone else who is having g issues. Now, knowing about xposed and the modules that can accompany it. Will not fully protect anyone from blatant stupidity. Read, read, read. And practice safe device use. There are so many avenues to protecting g ones self. But a big one that anyone can do. Don't download from shady places. Though, it is even very possible to get in trouble from apps from the Play store. Knowing what apps are asking for what permissions is important. What bothered me about your post is that you in the same post, stated for them to unlock the bootloader and then, to not root. Verizon and AT&T are advocates of the no Root behavior. And that sickens me. As well as many others. Instead of helping g people to see the dangers. They are told to do the most simplest of tasks, not to Root. And that they would be fine. Absolutely and completely false and misleading. Now, and again, for a dope. I suppose this would be fine. Though, it is not helpful. Education into matters are. One needs to seek out the underlying issue first. Then attempt to educate. As far as calling you a dope, I do humbly apologize for my Choi e of words. You did not deserve that. It would have been just fine for me to build onto what you suggested. Which was good advice. So, I am sorry. And yes, I am very much a dope at times .
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Jaytronics said:
For a dope, I suppose that Root is a security risk. But, just because a device is not Rooted, does not mean it is secure by any stretch of the imagination. Truthfully, they are more unsecured if locked out from the user. That is, if the person is not a dope. What I am saying is that your advice, for the OP to take every update and not Root, was not really that helpful. If the OP installed an app that was a risk, then all the updates and non Root, will not help them. Now, if you were to show them, that if they were to Root, and use certain apps and modules on their device. Then they could keep a better eye out for potential problems. But, even if they did as I just said. If the OP is being a dope, and installing apps that, let's say, they obtained from a torrent site. Then, well, dope would be a fitting title for them as well.
And, if those recognized developers stated that Root was not good at all. Then yes, dope would be a fitting application of the word. Root is only bad for those that are dopes.
I believe that you inadvertently called the OP a dope. You did not help them all that well. What you did was help them to get rid of the problem temporarily. Do we know who apps are on their device? It would be a good idea to know these things. Also, where did they get these apps from? Kind of a big deal there.
But, if you were wondering what it is that I am talking about in regards to xposed. Look it up.
http://repo.xposed.info/module/de.robv.android.xposed.installer
I suggest the OP do the same. As well as anyone else who is having g issues. Now, knowing about xposed and the modules that can accompany it. Will not fully protect anyone from blatant stupidity. Read, read, read. And practice safe device use. There are so many avenues to protecting g ones self. But a big one that anyone can do. Don't download from shady places. Though, it is even very possible to get in trouble from apps from the Play store. Knowing what apps are asking for what permissions is important. What bothered me about your post is that you in the same post, stated for them to unlock the bootloader and then, to not root. Verizon and AT&T are advocates of the no Root behavior. And that sickens me. As well as many others. Instead of helping g people to see the dangers. They are told to do the most simplest of tasks, not to Root. And that they would be fine. Absolutely and completely false and misleading. Now, and again, for a dope. I suppose this would be fine. Though, it is not helpful. Education into matters are. One needs to seek out the underlying issue first. Then attempt to educate. As far as calling you a dope, I do humbly apologize for my Choi e of words. You did not deserve that. It would have been just fine for me to build onto what you suggested. Which was good advice. So, I am sorry. And yes, I am very much a dope at times .
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Humble apology accepted.
You may not like AT&T and Verizon for their tight stance against rooting.I don't like that as well. They're filling their devices with their bloatware and excluding some very useful features from their customers like hotspot for free. However, Anyone who owns an operator variant of a specific device have already signed a contract with his operator already accepted their terms and that's why they get their bloated and controlled devices for cheaper prices in long term instead of paying full in cash. That said, i see nothing wrong with AT&T or Verizon's policy of keeping their devices locked to death since rooting would take a stake from their business and that was not their agreement with their customers. This is not the subject of this thread for sure. Should add, i see nothing wrong if a contracted owner a device wants to take full potencial out of it by rooting since it is the only way for them to get rid of bs in their devices. This is another discussion, not related to this thread.
I will use the word " regular user " instead of "dope" since nobody have to be knowledgeful about android security. Being someone without a clue of android security wouldn't make them a "dope". I currently sport a Moto Maxx, a bootloader unlockable variant of Verizon Droid Turbo sold in Brazil. I paid about 150$ more just to be free of Verizon Bloatware for the exact same hardware. I could have paid 150$ less and bought a Verizon Droid Turbo but i didn't just because i knew i would have Verizons' bs running in my phone every second. There used to be a time for me when rooting was a must with android because i used to own devices bloated with Motoblur, having low amount of ram and storage as well as unavailbility of disabling/deleting of unwanted apps. Now, i have 3gb of ram and 64gb storage with near Vanilla Android experience with my phone. I asked myself, what the heck do i need rooting for ? The answer was easy : nothing.
Lets say, android is an apartment, the root is the key to its door, xposed is the "watchdog" and hacker is the "thief". Would you keep the door unlocked and rely on a dog for its security ? I personally wouldn't do that cause the dogs can be fooled easily by a piece of meat and most importantly they have no responsibility at all. After all, It is just a dog serving for free without any responsibility. I couldn't ask for insurance as well cause i was the one who kept the door unlocked. I am also aware that any door can be opened without a key and the dog can be bypassed easily and the hacker can get whatever he wants. Things will happen if they're destined to be happen, we can't avoid some. Still, it is always our responsibility to keep the door locked in the first place and take counter measurements against. That was what i was pointing in my post.
Disabling USB debugging is the first thing one should do if there're concerns about security and this is not coming from a "dope" but security experts of android. :good:

Semseddin said:
Lets say, android is an apartment, the root is the key to its door, xposed is the "watchdog" and hacker is the "thief". Would you keep the door unlocked and rely on a dog for its security ? I personally wouldn't do that cause the dogs can be fooled easily by a piece of meat and most importantly they have no responsibility at all. After all, It is just a dog serving for free without any responsibility. I couldn't ask for insurance as well cause i was the one who kept the door unlocked. I am also aware that any door can be opened without a key and the dog can be bypassed easily and the hacker can get whatever he wants. Things will happen if they're destined to be happen, we can't avoid some. Still, it is always our responsibility to keep the door locked in the first place and take counter measurements against. That was what i was pointing in my post.
Disabling USB debugging is the first thing one should do if there're concerns about security and this is not coming from a "dope" but security experts of android. :good:
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To show how ridiculously and persistently wrong you are, I am going to use your above example. If root is your key, then what you are doing is giving that key to Google and device manufacturer, while throwing your own copy away. In your own apartment, you are only allowed to go where google and verizon let you. This makes no sense whatsoever, unless the apartment owner is a real dope (no personal offence meant).
Disabling usb debugging also sounds like an aria from the same opera. If the device is on your person, this provides no additional security at all, as usb debugging is only relevant when your phone is connected to computer. If someone physically takes your device, it would take 10 seconds to enable debugging.
Root provides you an opportunity to control your device and restrict system apps, thereby reducing possibilities for hackers to take over your phone... As I have already mentioned before, every operating system provides root access to users. The only reason it is not done on smart phones is becase manufacturers, carriers and OS providers want to turn users into walking advertising beacon-dopes. Again, no offence meant...

optimumpro said:
To show how ridiculously and persistently wrong you are, I am going to use your above example. If root is your key, then what you are doing is giving that key to Google and device manufacturer, while throwing your own copy away. In your own apartment, you are only allowed to go where google and verizon let you. This makes no sense whatsoever, unless the apartment owner is a real dope (no personal offence meant).
Disabling usb debugging also sounds like an aria from the same opera. If the device is on your person, this provides no additional security at all, as usb debugging is only relevant when your phone is connected to computer. If someone physically takes your device, it would take 10 seconds to enable debugging.
Root provides you an opportunity to control your device and restrict system apps, thereby reducing possibilities for hackers to take over your phone... As I have already mentioned before, every operating system provides root access to users. The only reason it is not done on smart phones is becase manufacturers, carriers and OS providers want to turn users into walking advertising beacon-dopes. Again, no offence meant...
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I see your point, respect it but disagree. Your example doesn't really work with my logic since you're putting players like Google/Verizon in the same league with an hacker. Yes, they for sure have control over their software since they're the one who created Android and offered the hardware along with an oem in the first place. These big companies are not like 3rd party devs who are irresponsible for any their actions.. If you happen to have sensetive privacy trust issues with Google, leave any android device out, you wouldn't even use google search in your pc.
A hacker having pyshical access to a device who would enable USB debugging in 5 seconds. is this what we're really talking about ? Anyone who have a device in hand doesn't need to be a hacker to get data from it. Have a coffee with the target sitting next to to him, memorize his passcode Done. Another way is to flash twrp and give some adb shell commands to bypass any lockscreen code. Done. USB debugging ON help with apk rooters and computer based root exploits as well.They rely on usb debugging to be on. You're hacked in no time.
I just can't trust any 3rd party dev more than my device manufacturer / operating system provider and network provider. I think the same for you like you're persistently and ridiciolusly wrong by giving too much credit to some unknown sources instead of those who have an actual business address. :good:

Just kiss each other already or dont say anything.
This thread is made by someone who needs help and you two both are taking it off topic instead of helping him. Now out of respect for that user, stop this endless conversation.

Semseddin said:
I see your point, respect it but disagree. Your example doesn't really work with my logic since you're putting players like Google/Verizon in the same league with an hacker. Yes, they for sure have control over their software since they're the one who created Android and offered the hardware along with an oem in the first place. These big companies are not like 3rd party devs who are irresponsible for any their actions.. If you happen to have sensetive privacy trust issues with Google, leave any android device out, you wouldn't even use google search in your pc.
A hacker having pyshical access to a device who would enable USB debugging in 5 seconds. is this what we're really talking about ? Anyone who have a device in hand doesn't need to be a hacker to get data from it. Have a coffee with the target sitting next to to him, memorize his passcode Done. Another way is to flash twrp and give some adb shell commands to bypass any lockscreen code. Done. USB debugging ON help with apk rooters and computer based root exploits as well.They rely on usb debugging to be on. You're hacked in no time.
I just can't trust any 3rd party dev more than my device manufacturer / operating system provider and network provider. I think the same for you like you're persistently and ridiciolusly wrong by giving too much credit to some unknown sources instead of those who have an actual business address. :good:
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This is not about respect, disrespect or disagreements. The facts (not opinions) remain: every operating system on Earth provides root or administrative privileges to users. However, it is not given to the same user when he turns to a smartphone. There is no security reason whatsoever why a user has root on computer and no root on a smartphone.
As I have already said, there are plenty of non-security reasons for the above: the main one being to prevent the user from removing advertising junk and spying malware inserted there by manufacturers, carriers and software providers. Kids love it (above three) and Mother (NSA) approves...
Every argument against root invalidates itself when applied to computer OS: remember the user is the same.
@its the peanut
Please stop patronizing. This is a security discussion thread and we discuss security, which is beneficial to the poor guy, the OP... :silly:

Semseddin, what do you do to stop fastboot?
rooting and knowledge go hand in hand, the OP states device is rooted, but sounds like hasn't got the interest to know what's behind the process. that is why we don't have the slightest piece of evidence that his device has been compromised. just the users opinion that it has.
having su and adb debugging at least allows them to logcat.

Stolen phone

My wife just called me on a landline to say her Samsung Galaxy S2 I9100 has gone missing. She was working in a tiny charity bookshop, so it was easy to check that it wasn't just dropped, and it goes straight to voicemail. It was double PIN protected on both device and SIM.
It was on Android 4.0.1 - I know, I know, she wouldn't allow me to upgrade it.
Question - I know from experience of flashing a new ROM that Google insists on entering the Google account details again to verify proper ownership. Is this a general Android security procedure, or does it work only on Lollipop/Marshmallow?
Just asking because it will be of some small comfort to know that the thieving scum has a paperweight rather than a phone...

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I know from experience of flashing a new ROM that Google insists on entering the Google account details again to verify proper ownership.
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Incorrect.

I was hoping for something a bit more concrete than that. And it is correct. When I've done a full reset of my phone to flash a new ROM I get "This device has been reset. Please enter your Google credentials" or words to that effect.
I'm happy to have the response, but can someone please give me a sensible one based on knowledge and not guesswork?

dahawthorne said:
I was hoping for something a bit more concrete than that. And it is correct. When I've done a full reset of my phone to flash a new ROM I get "This device has been reset. Please enter your Google credentials" or words to that effect.
I'm happy to have the response, but can someone please give me a sensible one based on knowledge and not guesswork?
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Oh hey look... no Google account!
You're the one operating on guesswork assuming a Google account is mandatory to use an Android device.

Look, guy, if you have no useful advice to offer me then quit wasting my time...
"Friends
Wakamatsu has not made any friends yet
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Well, am I surprised? I think I'll pass on that offer...

You asked about when a security measure was introduced in Android. I informed you that no such security measure exists.
There is a disconnect between what you want to believe and the reality. First, you refused to accept it. Now, you're angry at me because you have no choice but to accept it.
You want reassurances because of your situation? There is none to be offered here.

dahawthorne said:
My wife just called me on a landline to say her Samsung Galaxy S2 I9100 has gone missing. She was working in a tiny charity bookshop, so it was easy to check that it wasn't just dropped, and it goes straight to voicemail. It was double PIN protected on both device and SIM.
It was on Android 4.0.1 - I know, I know, she wouldn't allow me to upgrade it.
Question - I know from experience of flashing a new ROM that Google insists on entering the Google account details again to verify proper ownership. Is this a general Android security procedure, or does it work only on Lollipop/Marshmallow?
Just asking because it will be of some small comfort to know that the thieving scum has a paperweight rather than a phone...
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Unless your carrier has a service that allows imei blacklisting, there is nothing you can do. Even if they do, you'll need a solid proof of ownership and that the phone wasn't just lost. If your wife lost her phone, in most cases there is no obligation on the part of the finder to return it. Any other measure won't do anything, as the device could be wiped clean of everything.

Thanks. optimumpro. My service provider has blocked the phone and the SIM, so with any luck the scumbag will get no joy from it. It's also reported with its IMEI on a website (immobilise.com) which the police refer to when items are recovered.
As to my original question, I believe that the function I mentioned started with Android 5.1, so if the thief has the tech knowledge he/she can probably wipe it and install a new ROM, though I hope the IMEI block will prevent use even with other providers.
Pity - it was a nice little phone - my first smartphone.
And thanks for providing a sensible answer - appreciated.

dahawthorne said:
Thanks. optimumpro. My service provider has blocked the phone and the SIM, so with any luck the scumbag will get no joy from it. It's also reported with its IMEI on a website (immobilise.com) which the police refer to when items are recovered.
As to my original question, I believe that the function I mentioned started with Android 5.1, so if the thief has the tech knowledge he/she can probably wipe it and install a new ROM, though I hope the IMEI block will prevent use even with other providers.
Pity - it was a nice little phone - my first smartphone.
And thanks for providing a sensible answer - appreciated.
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You may want to check ebay, because the phone can be sold to someone from another country. So, with luck you may catch the guy...

Screen lock forgotten, need to bypass without wiping

Hi Everyone! I need help to find a solution to this silly issue. I have a customer who has a Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 2 and it so happened he forgot his screen lock pin. I also tried to get it fixed using Samsung's find my device to bypass it unfortunately his Samsung account is not activated on his device. Is there any workaround that can be done to bypass the phone screen lock without the need of wiping it? Thanks in advance!
PS: very important files are inside his device and wiping is never an option for him.

ShinGaiven said:
Hi Everyone! I need help to find a solution to this silly issue. I have a customer who has a Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 2 and it so happened he forgot his screen lock pin. I also tried to get it fixed using Samsung's find my device to bypass it unfortunately his Samsung account is not activated on his device. Is there any workaround that can be done to bypass the phone screen lock without the need of wiping it? Thanks in advance!
PS: very important files are inside his device and wiping is never an option for him.
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Nope, not possible.
If you have your own business, it seems like you would make good money advertising a service to help your customers ensure that their data is backed up at all times, for situations like this

iBowToAndroid said:
Nope, not possible.
If you have your own business, it seems like you would make good money advertising a service to help your customers ensure that their data is backed up at all times, for situations like this
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Lol, yeah I agree with you. I guess it's a dead end for that guy. It's a big mistake that he forgot to activate Samsung account on his Fold. In fact both of his Galaxy fold, it's not activated.

ShinGaiven said:
Lol, yeah I agree with you. I guess it's a dead end for that guy. It's a big mistake that he forgot to activate Samsung account on his Fold. In fact both of his Galaxy fold, it's not activated.
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I feel like most people do not set up a Samsung account. I personally would have no use for one. But, it is very nice that they added the option to remotely back up your PIN/password (I think they started doing that 2 years ago). So for someone who may forget their PIN, yes, it would be nice to have

It used to be against the rules here, or at least frowned upon, to discuss how to defeat security measures such as FRP here. Just FYI. Prevents thieves from coming here and learning how to get into devices they stole.

Mr. Orange 645 said:
It used to be against the rules here, or at least frowned upon, to discuss how to defeat security measures such as FRP here. Just FYI. Prevents thieves from coming here and learning how to get into devices they stole.
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You're aware that not everyone with an FRP problem is a thief, correct?

iBowToAndroid said:
You're aware that not everyone with an FRP problem is a thief, correct?
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You're aware I never said everyone was, right?
Reading comprehension is a skill....