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[Q] Rooted and can't install OTA update

Hi.
I rooted my Note 8010 using Zedomax' method. All has been fine. My note has now downaloded the JB OTA update, but it fails to install.
I assume I need to restore 'stock' recovery to install the OTA update? But where can I get this from.
Also will installing the OTA remove root? And will Zedomax' method still work to re-root after applying the update.
Regards

Installing the OTA should not remove root but if it does just use the exynos abuse patch app to root that is the simplest and safest method.

Thanks Samir_a
Do I actually need to restore stock recovery? If so, where can I get that?

pc99mk said:
Thanks Samir_a
Do I actually need to restore stock recovery? If so, where can I get that?
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Cf root method restores stock recovery http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33298782 and yes to do ota udate you need stock recovery
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Thanks hoss_n2
Ok I ran the CF auto root to restore stock recovery.
But now I have downloaded the ota update 3 times, and on clicking install it fails immediately.
Previously it rebooted into CWM recovery.
Any ideas what's wrong now? I'm guessing I can download a full update and flash it another away, but I assume that will erase all settings.

Try to flash via odin or if u r rooted use mobile odin . Im now on jb 4.1.2 i flashed my note via mobile odin in 5 min

Thanks mexman_2010.
However if I use odin that will trash my settings won't it?
Is there no way of getting the ota update to work?

You dont need to retore stock recovery or fiddle with odin. Just use kies on your computer and it installs the update for you. All your data should still be intact after the process but it is recommended to backup first
Keep in mind that updating using kies removes root

The ota's are using the patch method;
effectively what they do is work out the difference between the new binaries and old binaries and just send a patch that changes the old into the new.. this is done to keep the ota as small as possible I presume.
so if the binary isn't identical to what was shipped with the rom its trying to update then it will have to fail, otherwise you'd end up with an almighty great mess of non booting or corrupted devices.
if they used the file method (complete apks etc like an cwm style zip) then it shouldn't matter, but as it is, the only way to ensure a patch will work is to make sure the files are identical to what the patch was generated against, root allows you to change system files, so root is the primary way of checking if the system has been altered.
ergo if you want otas then you're most likely going to have to run them from a stock rom.

Thanks for all the info guys.
Bizarrely though, having left the Note overnight. It downloaded the OTA update itself and this time when I clicked install it worked perfectly, so
all is well again.
Thanks for the help everyone.

Please every one. I need help with my n8000. Currently i am on stock ics rooted with zedomax cwm installed. Is it safe for me to install OTA update or can i just switch back to my stock recovery by flashing it through odin? I have downloaded the stock recovery so im waiting for your replies
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Why don't you just install the latest version from sammobile with Odin or Mobile Odin instead of using the complicate way?

Can i revert to stock recovery by flashing through odin and still keep root?
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Yes you can do that, install stock recovery using ODIN, you will need to use triangleaway to reset your binary count though.
Also make sure the stock recovery is for your devic

4.3 Upgrade on Friday and root?

So I have a friend whose phone I rooted a while back. He's still on the stock ROM and has no plans to change. What do I have to do to get him the 4.3 upgrade when (or if lol) it comes out without locking his phone up? I'm assuming I'll have to remove root. Anyway to do that without using ODIN?
Thanks!

Evil Genius Jr. said:
So I have a friend whose phone I rooted a while back. He's still on the stock ROM and has no plans to change. What do I have to do to get him the 4.3 upgrade when (or if lol) it comes out without locking his phone up? I'm assuming I'll have to remove root. Anyway to do that without using ODIN?
Thanks!
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If he's still on the stock rom, he'll receive an OTA notification on his phone. So long as he hasn't removed any system apps or installed any systemUI mods then it will update just fine even with a custom recovery installed.

He removed a couple of system apps but is on the stock ROM with no UI changes.

he has time to worry about it later. nothing is going to happen on friday.
does he have a nand of the stock system? if so tell him to restore it before updating to be safe

Yeah that's what I thought but better safe than sorry. No NAND of stock as far as I know.

OK there is thread out there just has rooted stock ROMs you can flash in recovery without a data wipe. I can't seem to find the thread for some reason but I have the file. If you wait till tomorrow I can upload it and share it. Or maybe u can find the thread. Or if all he removed was Verizon apps he could try a flashable zip to restore VZW apps.
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Sandman-007 said:
OK there is thread out there just has rooted stock ROMs you can flash in recovery without a data wipe. I can't seem to find the thread for some reason but I have the file. If you wait till tomorrow I can upload it and share it. Or maybe u can find the thread. Or if all he removed was Verizon apps he could try a flashable zip to restore VZW apps.
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You mean this? This no data wipe one is for Odin.

SlimSnoopOS said:
You mean this? This no data wipe one is for Odin.
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That's the one! Thanks SlimSnoop. Forgot they were Odin flashables but his friend could use mobile Odin as long as he has an unlocked bootloader. If not just use EZunlock 1.2. Its a one click app.
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Okay thanks! I do have the zip somewhere, I'll have to look. Bootloader is unlocked with custom recovery. So If I just Odin or flash the zip the custom recovery or bootloader won't cause any problems?

Evil Genius Jr. said:
Okay thanks! I do have the zip somewhere, I'll have to look. Bootloader is unlocked with custom recovery. So If I just Odin or flash the zip the custom recovery or bootloader won't cause any problems?
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No bootloader is fine but that file needs to flashed in Odin. If you want use mobile Odin. Its what use and it's easier IMO. just make sure which ever version of Odin you use that you have plenty if charge ( over 70%)
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okay thanks!
And by flashing the zip I meant the flash able zip file, not the Odin file...

Evil Genius Jr. said:
okay thanks!
And by flashing the zip I meant the flash able zip file, not the Odin file...
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OK. Because you do NOT want to get that term mixed up and you do not want to flash a flushable zip using odim. Very bad idea. Odin uses tar files which sometimes comes zipped up (not flashable via recovery)
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New m8 wants to update

I just got my m8 and want to s-off but I'm traveling and won't be able to figure that out until I'm back on my pc next week. The update keeps prompting me to take it. Is it safe to do so? Sorry if this was already answered trying to figure out the best way to browse with tapatalk.
I don't have root or anything yet...
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I used Firewater's method for permanent root, s-off and custom recovery. If I allow my phone to update will I mess things up or lose root?

Same boat here... s-off, permanent root, TWRP
The update to 1.55 downloaded but when I tried to let it install it just rebooted my phone into TWRP and that was it. Rebooted back to system and I'm still on the 1.12.605.11 software. Checking software update status shows "Result: Update Failed,410"

N00bs. Lol. You need a stock recovery to flash an OTA. Also, I am s-off and I had a flashback to a stock recovery to flash the OTA . Everything is still fine and then I flashed back to a custom recovery no problem
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Totally a noob here, How do you flash to a stock recovery?
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You guys need the stock recovery in order to install the OTA. It won't work with a custom recovery, it'll just boot to the custom recovery and not do anything. You can install the OTA with s off and root but you still need the stock recovery. You install the stock recovery the same way as you did the custom. Adb -> flashboot flash recovery *path of recovery*.
http://www.megafileupload.com/en/file/520717/stockrecovery-img.html
There are also videos on YouTube on flashing recoveries to the m8 if you need more help.
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Justintoxicated said:
I just got my m8 and want to s-off but I'm traveling and won't be able to figure that out until I'm back on my pc next week. The update keeps prompting me to take it. Is it safe to do so? Sorry if this was already answered trying to figure out the best way to browse with tapatalk.
I don't have root or anything yet...
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You can install the update, and when you have the chance you can s-off using the weaksauce/supersu/firewater method. I picked up a new M8 a couple nights ago and took the update, and afterwards did the temproot/firewater method and it worked just fine. Hope this helps.

I flashed stock recovery and tried the OTA and it failed twice. I can't seem to get it on my phone through any of the methods for some reason.

In order to install update, you need to have STOCK recovery and STOCK Rom....NOT debloated or with mods....STOCK.
Again, you need STOCK recovery using a STOCK Rom.
If you have modified the system in anyway, it WONT work until you put it back to STOCK.
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^you can have bloatware frozen and it'll work, just can't be removed.
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dadams312 said:
I flashed stock recovery and tried the OTA and it failed twice. I can't seem to get it on my phone through any of the methods for some reason.
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z-man79 said:
Totally a noob here, How do you flash to a stock recovery?
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KnightDavid said:
Same boat here... s-off, permanent root, TWRP
The update to 1.55 downloaded but when I tried to let it install it just rebooted my phone into TWRP and that was it. Rebooted back to system and I'm still on the 1.12.605.11 software. Checking software update status shows "Result: Update Failed,410"
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z-man79 said:
I used Firewater's method for permanent root, s-off and custom recovery. If I allow my phone to update will I mess things up or lose root?
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No need to take ota. Ota us our enemy. Lol. The ota has been pulled an you can simply flash the firmware an that's half of the ota an then flash a stock Rom based off 1.55 or install the backup that was posted of a pure stock 1.55 Rom. After those 2 things you will have the full ota. New radios everything.. flashing a stock recovery taking ota flashing back is not needed.
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Thanks guys it was annoying having that update keep popping up and no real computer to lookup info or soff. As for getting updates after roming the phone usually just wait for authors to incorporate the updates. But I did not realize you can't have two recoveries like you can on Motorola phones which is good to know.
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New to android here.
I rooted the device with WeakSauce and use Firewater for S-Off. I didn't flash any custom recoveries. I did freeze some apps with Titanium Backup. If I do the OTA, 1) will it work? and 2) will it remove my root and/or s-off?

NoFanboy said:
You guys need the stock recovery in order to install the OTA. It won't work with a custom recovery, it'll just boot to the custom recovery and not do anything. You can install the OTA with s off and root but you still need the stock recovery. You install the stock recovery the same way as you did the custom. Adb -> flashboot flash recovery *path of recovery*.
megafileupload.com/en/file/520717/stockrecovery-img.html
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For clarification, after flashing the stockrecovery.img you posted and installing the update, there should be no problem flashing back to CWM recovery after the fact?
Thank you for your help and your time!

skivvies said:
For clarification, after flashing the stockrecovery.img you posted and installing the update, there should be no problem flashing back to CWM recovery after the fact?
Thank you for your help and your time!
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Nope there will be no problem.
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richii0207 said:
In order to install update, you need to have STOCK recovery and STOCK Rom....NOT debloated or with mods....STOCK.
Again, you need STOCK recovery using a STOCK Rom.
If you have modified the system in anyway, it WONT work until you put it back to STOCK.
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All your big words confuse me...will it work with custom rom's and recoveries?

I don't remember ever having to have stock recovery and stock rom for my old DNA to take an update. Normally devs would update their rom with the updates and all we had to do was fastboot flash the new radio.

NoFanboy said:
You guys need the stock recovery in order to install the OTA. It won't work with a custom recovery, it'll just boot to the custom recovery and not do anything. You can install the OTA with s off and root but you still need the stock recovery. You install the stock recovery the same way as you did the custom. Adb -> flashboot flash recovery *path of recovery*.
http://www.megafileupload.com/en/file/520717/stockrecovery-img.html
There are also videos on YouTube on flashing recoveries to the m8 if you need more help.
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So I flash the file you linked to, thank you but when I try to get into recovery I get a red triangle with an exclamation point in it. Seemed pretty straight forward.

sfreemanoh said:
All your big words confuse me...will it work with custom rom's and recoveries?
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Lol, I had to. I just know someone is going to start a thread saying "update won't work, it just boots into twrp"
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z-man79 said:
So I flash the file you linked to, thank you but when I try to get into recovery I get a red triangle with an exclamation point in it. Seemed pretty straight forward.
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Hold the volume up button and pressed the power button to get to the recovery menu.

Next Update?

Anyone know when the next update will be for the Verizon M8?

Tomorrow.
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Quadrider10 said:
Anyone know when the next update will be for the Verizon M8?
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We just an update last week. Nobody will have this answer.
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im debating when to root my M8... i want to root it and get TWRP but still want the OTA updates.

Quadrider10 said:
im debating when to root my M8... i want to root it and get TWRP but still want the OTA updates.
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Just like with this last ota, devs we'll have flashable zips within a day or two. You won't miss anything by being rooted. Flash away my friend.

cntryby429 said:
Just like with this last ota, devs we'll have flashable zips within a day or two. You won't miss anything by being rooted. Flash away my friend.
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so if i want to do the OTA update, i just have to flash the stock recovery or just flash the OTA in the custom recovery? after the OTA will i loose root? either way?
also is there an all in one toolbox for this stuff?

You gotta browse some threads, bro. All right here.
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1ManWolfePack said:
You gotta browse some threads, bro. All right here.
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ive been reading all night! lol
from what i got is that to do the OTAs i need to flash stock recovery than do update, then re-root and flash custom recovery again. but idk if i have to re-root if i flash the OTA via custom recovery?

Hey when I did the ota update dude didn't even have to flash stock recovery I just followed the instructions flashed via my computer with adb once that happened stock recovery will be back on so then you just have to reflash a custom recovery and that's it.
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Quadrider10 said:
ive been reading all night! lol
from what i got is that to do the OTAs i need to flash stock recovery than do update, then re-root and flash custom recovery again. but idk if i have to re-root if i flash the OTA via custom recovery?
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You can't get the ota with a custom recovery. You need the stock recovery then you take the ota then you can flash the custom recovery again and flash supersu if you lost root. Some lost root and some didn't. I did
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The purpose is to flash ROMs and if an update comes out, then wait for another ROM based on the update and never lose root. So flash away and enjoy the ride...

NoFanboy said:
You can't get the ota with a custom recovery. You need the stock recovery then you take the ota then you can flash the custom recovery again and flash supersu if you lost root. Some lost root and some didn't. I did
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To expound on that a bit more, OP - this is assuming you have S-OFF/Unlocked BL so then you are able to re-flash the recovery, and, thus, re-root by flashing Superuser.
At least, that's what I'm thinking is necessary. If not then someone can correct me if needed.... =x

ODIN not delivering recovery

I bought a new S5 after totaling my old one, and I am trying to get it rooted. I flash the latest recoveries from TWRP and PHILZ, odin says reset and pass, but it doesn't register on my phone. My knox is still 0x0. I just updated to NE5 so I think that may be the problem. Any solutions?

redmanjoey said:
I bought a new S5 after totaling my old one, and I am trying to get it rooted. I flash the latest recoveries from TWRP and PHILZ, odin says reset and pass, but it doesn't register on my phone. My knox is still 0x0. I just updated to NE5 so I think that may be the problem. Any solutions?
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Odin is very finicky. Try changing usb cables and changing ports. That should, and normally does, fix the issue. Good luck.
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Ok, I tried that. Still nothing. Used 2 and 3.0. Disabled anti virus too. Any other ideas? Thanks for the advice though!

redmanjoey said:
Ok, I tried that. Still nothing. Used 2 and 3.0. Disabled anti virus too. Any other ideas? Thanks for the advice though!
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Which odin version are you using? 3.07 or 3.09 that could be a problem too. I know when I was updating my modem to ne5 I couldn't use 3.07 because it wouldn't update I had to use 3.09 for it to work. It could be the same problem your having too. Just saying
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zune70 said:
Which odin version are you using? 3.07 or 3.09 that could be a problem too. I know when I was updating my modem to ne5 I couldn't use 3.07 because it wouldn't update I had to use 3.09 for it to work. It could be the same problem your having too. Just saying
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I tried using all the versions still no luck. I even tried using it on Phone rather than PDA and still no luck. Can I just push it through fastboot commands or something?
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If you are already rooted you can try an app called flashify, it's in the play store. It works pretty good for flashing recoveries.

I'm not rooted, I plan on flashing the recovery so I can install a ROM. Are there any reasons why ODIN would say pass but not give me recovery? I tried 2 computers so I have a feeling it's the phone.

I don't know, I've never had a problem with Odin.

Try rooting with kingo (kingoapp.com)
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Have you tried cf-auto root?

metalfan78 said:
Have you tried cf-auto root?
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I'll use an auto root as a last resort, but I would really prefer the manual method. I had a bad experience when using a one click method before.

Root + Recovery
redmanjoey said:
I'll use an auto root as a last resort, but I would really prefer the manual method. I had a bad experience when using a one click method before.
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I would use "Towel Root" to root your new S5 if you haven't rooted yet. Heres the link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783157 if you use this method it wont trip knox thus leaving knox counter at 0x0, and as far as recovery goes with NE5, use "Flashify" best app ever, root, download that app backup stock recovery with it then flash PHILZ recovery, then make back up of PHILZ recovery with Flashify. Reason I suggest using PHILZ is because it has been an on going problem with NE5 using TWRP to restore a NANDROID. These threads always help for other reasons too http://forum.xda-developers.com/spr...mctr=(not provided)&__utmv=-&__utmk=231498652 and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2742994

Has the same recovery worked on other s5 IF has then try other recovery.
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