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Hey guys,
I hope I hope I'm not overlooking if any threads have been created in regards to this.
I've been watching the releases for a while and am still not certain which CM will be good for a daily ....
I'm currently running cm-10.1-20130309-UNOFFICIAL, this was posted as the last "Stable" that I could find.
Besides the charging issue, I'm having people tell me than when using hands free in my vehicle there's a bad echo... I think I recall reading that both of those items have been addressed in future nightlies but it's not clear to me which nightly is good to use right now with regard to External SD issues etc.
Is anyone using a rom that has the battery charging, wifi tethering, and hands free bluetooth working without other major giltches ?
I updated to the latest OTA stock JB so all modems etc are up to date.
Thanks in advance!
yohan4ws said:
Hey guys,
I hope I hope I'm not overlooking if any threads have been created in regards to this.
I've been watching the releases for a while and am still not certain which CM will be good for a daily ....
I'm currently running cm-10.1-20130309-UNOFFICIAL, this was posted as the last "Stable" that I could find.
Besides the charging issue, I'm having people tell me than when using hands free in my vehicle there's a bad echo... I think I recall reading that both of those items have been addressed in future nightlies but it's not clear to me which nightly is good to use right now with regard to External SD issues etc.
Is anyone using a rom that has the battery charging, wifi tethering, and hands free bluetooth working without other major giltches ?
I updated to the latest OTA stock JB so all modems etc are up to date.
Thanks in advance!
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By definition, "nightlies" have bugs. The tradeoffs are unavoidable.
What you may want to do is get yourself a deodexed stock Touchwiz ROM and cut out the bloat.
Also, Google screwed up Bluetooth in Jelly Bean. Even stock roms are having problems.
orange808 said:
By definition, "nightlies" have bugs. The tradeoffs are unavoidable.
What you may want to do is get yourself a deodexed stock Touchwiz ROM and cut out the bloat.
Also, Google screwed up Bluetooth in Jelly Bean. Even stock roms are having problems.
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i ended up dirty flash to sept 25 nightly of 10.2
no issues at all flashed w cwm.. i have access to both sdcard, can charge on any charger and havent had any lockscreen or boot issues.. i format system wipe dalvik and flashed overtop my existing. great rom!
Hi, it really all started with the 3.4 kernel.
I'm s-off, super CIC and sim unlocked. Have been trying the carbon roms and getting random reboots which lead to a boot loop. After 3-5 loops it usually settles down again, but it Will happen again.
Then switched to codename lungo which has the best battery life for me (latest builds for carbon and lungo) but still getting the same problems, this morning it was using maps.
Also noticed that the phone was really hot, checked the battery temp and it was over 50 deg C.
I'm just wondering if there's anything that you guys do to ensure a smooth ROM installation and experience, especially in connection with the kernels? This current codename lungo buid that I'm on was installed from a TOTAL wipe, including the sd card (I mentioned this total loss in the carbon thread) so its stock kernel. But still not stable! It couldn't have been a cleaner install!
So any advice would be warmly welcomed.
I'm pretty fed up with all the CM troubles with 3.4 kernel, is it possible to revert back to previous kernel and sense ROMs? They worked great for me.
Thx
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Dude do you realize that there is a Question/Answer Forum and this one is to be left just for developing? and by the way yes you can go back to sense by flashing a rom or running an RUU
My mistake, I just posted here as it's where I spend all my time!
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Frankyg said:
Hi, it really all started with the 3.4 kernel.
I'm s-off, super CIC and sim unlocked. Have been trying the carbon roms and getting random reboots which lead to a boot loop. After 3-5 loops it usually settles down again, but it Will happen again.
Then switched to codename lungo which has the best battery life for me (latest builds for carbon and lungo) but still getting the same problems, this morning it was using maps.
Also noticed that the phone was really hot, checked the battery temp and it was over 50 deg C.
I'm just wondering if there's anything that you guys do to ensure a smooth ROM installation and experience, especially in connection with the kernels? This current codename lungo buid that I'm on was installed from a TOTAL wipe, including the sd card (I mentioned this total loss in the carbon thread) so its stock kernel. But still not stable! It couldn't have been a cleaner install!
So any advice would be warmly welcomed.
I'm pretty fed up with all the CM troubles with 3.4 kernel, is it possible to revert back to previous kernel and sense ROMs? They worked great for me.
Thx
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Please also understand that most of the ROMs here are in beta/testing phase. That means that reboots/bootloops or other unexpected behavior is likely to appear. Event if for some of us a ROM may be stable, for others could be problematic or have some issues. This is depending on many factors even if you completely wiped as you said. hboot/firmware, radios, revision of your phone (hardware speaking) ar so many factors that influence the stability and smoothness of a ROM. The devs do their best to offer us a good experience and better ROMs but they cannot test in all conditions (even if they have testers). Even great teams like CyanogenMod had some issues with their ROMs for some of us
If you want stability, then go for a stock/sense based ROM with Android 4.1.1/4.1.2, anything else could prove to be not so perfect depending on your specific conditions
Also don't forget that such a thread will not help any of the devs nor this community....if you have issues it's is usually more helpful to provide detailed description of your problem along with logs that could reveal the root cause of it, than to complain about the instability of the ROM
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My mistake, I just posted here as it's where I spend all my time!
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you can go back to stock rom or try a stock based rom. BUT it still would be interesting why you have these problems because most of the users do not have.
Hi,
I decided to post my own topic and not in the CM11 thread, because this is probably not a CM11 issue. As you know, the Nexus S has only 512MB of RAM including video. Mine has been having quite a lot of slowdowns (apps refreshes/restarts) for the past weeks. I am wondering what I could do to help it and avoid buying a new phone (no money and I still love that phone).
However now, there are few things that I can't do anymore.
- I can't listen to BeyondPod (podcasts) and receive/send SMS in Hangout. There's not enough RAM to run both apps and even when I am listening to BeyondPod, the SMS alert might not trigger when a SMS is received. This happens in few apps here and there.
- Sometimes, someone calls me and the screen stays black so I can't answer. Again, this is due to RAM usage.
- I use SwiftKey as keyboard and it can't take 30-45 seconds to load in some apps such as Chrome.
I am running CM11 Nightlies. I usually update CM11 once per 2 weeks with the lastest Nightly available. I don't wipe the entire configs, I just upgrade. It's been a while since I've wiped everything to be honest. I probably updated CM10 to CM11 without wiping the configs. This might be one thing to try but I am not sure if it would help to regain some RAM/juice. I am running the stock kernel of CM11. I know there are few kernels with a bigmem patch, but does it really work ?
As for launcher, I am running Apex Launcher as well with SwipePad. Greenify runs in the background and hibernate pretty much every apps it can. I don't have the Greenify donation package, so it won't hibernate on the system apps.
I am wondering if wiping everything and installing a stable version of CM11 (or another lighter ROM?) would help. I would use TItanium Backup to reinstall the apps and their settings. I wouldn't use TiB to push the configs of the ROM if CM11 is reinstalled. Would a kernel or ROM with bigmem patch a good idea ?
This would probably be a temporary fix, because apps and ROMs are asking for more and more CPU/RAM these days.
Thanks for any input,
Neo.
A clean flash isn't a bad idea, just backup your rom first.. Backup your apps/ data on your SD with titanium backup and then you can just restore them.. You could try my stable v1.1 script and use Guru (CM kernel with bigmem) or Devil and you will notice the improvement.. Also the CM m9 is a very nice rom.. Happy flashing..
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Setting.Out said:
A clean flash isn't a bad idea, just backup your rom first.. Backup your apps/ data on your SD with titanium backup and then you can just restore them.. You could try my stable v1.1 script and use Guru (CM kernel with bigmem) or Devil and you will notice the improvement.. Also the CM m9 is a very nice rom.. Happy flashing..
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Thanks for your answer Setting.Out.
Before I receive your answer, I did some research on my side as well. It turns out that I have downloaded your ROM (the Farewell edition) and the cn.fyodor AOSP 4.4.3 ROM. I decided to go ahead and install the AOSP ROM instead of yours. I wanted to try AOSP instead of CM, being a CM user for the past 2-3 years. While I was satisfied with the AOSP ROM for the past day or 2, I am now unsure if I will keep it. While performances are good compared to what I was used to, I have some issues. The videos in YouTube are lagging like crazy (although videos in VLC work fine) and the audio stutter sometimes. I listen to a lot of music and each few minutes, it will stutter for a split second. I never had that issue with CM11. Also, I can't find a kernel with bigmem on AOSP. There is the marmite kernel from bedalus which seemed promising, but everyone is having FC with the Google Play Store and BLN/BLD isn't working anymore on this kernel.
How does your ROM compare with CM11 ? I know yours is CM based. Is there less "bloatwares" in yours ? CM install lots of stuff (themes, bugs reporting, etc) and I don't want that. I prefer to use the Xposed Framework instead of a ROM with multiple settings that I don't use. Having a CM based ROM would be nice to be able to flash the Guru kernel.
spookyneo said:
Thanks for your answer Setting.Out.
Before I receive your answer, I did some research on my side as well. It turns out that I have downloaded your ROM (the Farewell edition) and the cn.fyodor AOSP 4.4.3 ROM. I decided to go ahead and install the AOSP ROM instead of yours. I wanted to try AOSP instead of CM, being a CM user for the past 2-3 years. While I was satisfied with the AOSP ROM for the past day or 2, I am now unsure if I will keep it. While performances are good compared to what I was used to, I have some issues. The videos in YouTube are lagging like crazy (although videos in VLC work fine) and the audio stutter sometimes. I listen to a lot of music and each few minutes, it will stutter for a split second. I never had that issue with CM11. Also, I can't find a kernel with bigmem on AOSP. There is the marmite kernel from bedalus which seemed promising, but everyone is having FC with the Google Play Store and BLN/BLD isn't working anymore on this kernel.
How does your ROM compare with CM11 ? I know yours is CM based. Is there less "bloatwares" in yours ? CM install lots of stuff (themes, bugs reporting, etc) and I don't want that. I prefer to use the Xposed Framework instead of a ROM with multiple settings that I don't use. Having a CM based ROM would be nice to be able to flash the Guru kernel.
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It basically is CM11, a little less bloated, but similar feature set.. Give it a try, you can always flash another rom if it doesn't suite you.. Slim 5.1 is another favorite of mine, if you'd like to try that one you'll need to search their thread as it wasn't a public release..
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Setting.Out said:
It basically is CM11, a little less bloated, but similar feature set.. Give it a try, you can always flash another rom if it doesn't suite you.. Slim 5.1 is another favorite of mine, if you'd like to try that one you'll need to search their thread as it wasn't a public release..
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Your "Farewell edition" is Kitkat 4.4.4 or 4.4.2 ? So that I can download the appropriate Gapps. I also understand that the Gapps you provide in your thread are a minimal package, so my Nexus S doesn't run out of space (which happened to me few months ago due to the new official Gapps package).
Thanks
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Your "Farewell edition" is Kitkat 4.4.4 or 4.4.2 ? So that I can download the appropriate Gapps. I also understand that the Gapps you provide in your thread are a minimal package, so my Nexus S doesn't run out of space (which happened to me few months ago due to the new official Gapps package).
Thanks
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4.4.4 minimal/micro are better on the NS..
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Alpha Omnirom 5.0 (Trying to get calls to work properly on CM first before doing more omni builds))
baseband is still unknown. So no phone calls or data.
Alpha Cyanogenmod 5.02 with working baseband
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4k5OpXTXcS9NF8zN1dreFAtOUk/view?usp=sharing
Build 5.0.1:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4k5OpXTXcS9NVp0Sm9YMFdEUUE/view?usp=sharing
Calls should now work without lockups. Data seems flakey? Let me know your finding
(This is now working due to rolling back to old RIL blobs (pre 4.3). This means that the connection process takes longer on initial start-up and switching to air-plane mode as well. )
Leave wifi on to avoid reboots.
Also this doesnt have the camera bug fix yet that Derteufel made.
Nice.. Never been a fan of omni.. I'm more a cm or aosp person
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REVIEW
Thank you very much for this build for the i9305
I have been waiting for the first lollipop build
I installed this rom and this is a written review after one hour of usage
1 the phone boots without any problem
2 lollipop gapps are working
3 Sometimes wifi works and sometimes no
4 Bluetooth works
5 some random reboots and sometimes it stuck so I need to remove the battery to get it working again
6 no FCs at all
7 seems fast
8 when I open an app installe from play store the phone stucks and I remove the battery
Thanks again and I wish u improve this rom in the coming days
Good job mate but I think it'll be better to edit your thread to make something more attractive, Flash Guide for noobs , links to gapps, alternative dl links , what works, what doesn't , credits , shiet like this would be better for everyone.
The main problem of your rom seems to be the kernel (random reboots , wifi issues , random freezes)
Anyways , good luck and thank you for the rom
aaz03 said:
Good job mate but I think it'll be better to edit your thread to make something more attractive, Flash Guide for noobs , links to gapps, alternative dl links , what works, what doesn't , credits , shiet like this would be better for everyone.
The main problem of your rom seems to be the kernel (random reboots , wifi issues , random freezes)
Anyways , good luck and thank you for the rom
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Thanks for the feedback.
This isnt meant for n00bs to flash yet. This is an alpha.
In Alphas you expect to get problems! This is only meant for testing and for trying out 5.0 on your device...
can we flash this normally?
CM 5.0.1 build added to OP. Please read notes about what isnt working before flashing!
So the latest build is the most stable one (CM12)? Can I help you in any way, testing, logs or something?
limnaln said:
So the latest build is the most stable one (CM12)? Can I help you in any way, testing, logs or something?
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Well at this point in time no. I've just got to try to figure out whats going wrong still and then people can test to see if it works for them and if there is any long term problems with it. Until then its just make a change, compile and flash and I'll let people know if I get anywhere.
for me it is stuck on bootloop... first flashed wih wipe full/dalvik/cache then flashed gapps - bootloop. second dirty flashed again, booted, android is upgrading, optimizing apps, then rebooted and again bootloop... how to get past this ?
Tested. Boots okay. Data baseband ok. Incoming calls ok. Outgoing calls impossible. Tested with 2g
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for me it is stuck on bootloop... first flashed wih wipe full/dalvik/cache then flashed gapps - bootloop. second dirty flashed again, booted, android is upgrading, optimizing apps, then rebooted and again bootloop... how to get past this ?
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As I said this doesnt have the camera firmware patch added so some people might get bootloops... I'll add this in the next day or two from Derteufel
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As I said this doesnt have the camera firmware patch added so some people might get bootloops... I'll add this in the next day or two from Derteufel
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So, we are at the final step - outgoing calls, huh?
There also appeared some new commits on nameless gerit, just informing
Outgoing calls can be made now. But it seems to lockup when hanging up. New link in OP for 'new' build.
Calls should now work!
This is using old ril blobs so initial connection from boot will take longer. Also I think data is stuffed a bit. Seems to take a long time to get connected. Seems to work for me after that though. Post your finding please!
Hopefully Derteufel can figure out the problem with the newer blobs but till then this is working if anyone is interested.
Edit: only got one question. Can wifi be turned off. Will disabling it cause bootloops?
infrag said:
Calls should now work!
This is using old ril blobs so initial connection from boot will take longer. Also I think data is stuffed a bit. Seems to take a long time to get connected. Seems to work for me after that though. Post your finding please!
Hopefully Derteufel can figure out the problem with the newer blobs but till then this is working if anyone is interested.
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Yes, it does work indees! In and out! Really great, the whole system is smooth.
Great work. Will be swapping back to the i9305 from the note 2.. All we need now is for someone to work on the stock cm kernel to make it smoother.
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Great work on calls! Please let us know when you include the camera firmware fix so I can download again and flash, this is the only thing causing me bootloops and preventing me for further testing. Thanks
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Great work. Will be swapping back to the i9305 from the note 2.. All we need now is for someone to work on the stock cm kernel to make it smoother.
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Stock kernel? We are only using that to get data working... I'm sure Derteufel will switch to his own kernel as soon as he irons out the problems with phone calls locking up etc. (Or he switches to old RIL blobs for now)
Then there will be the challenge of getting R4P0 drivers to work properly.
After that who knows? Fix opensource compass?
Then Nameless may have other upgrades to implement for HWC.
Hi,
My brother has some issues with his phone (Moto G 2013, not dual SIM, not 4G) in the last time. The phone is quite unstable, so I recommended him to flash custom recovery, and eventually custom ROM.
The question is which one? This is not ROM vs ROM thread. I do not wont to compare ROMs. Just aks people for they personal experience. If anyone could recommend a stable (his/her personal opinion.) ROM, or comment lolipop, should I got for Kit Kat ROM or Loli (He still hasn't received the OTA update to Lolipop.).
I have tried to research a bit and find out for my self what would be the best option for him, but the task is not so simple, and pretty time consuming. Strange how everything, from rooting to flashing seem so complicated when one looks at the forum, when one actually only has to unlock the bootloader, fastboot flash recovery, and flash the ROM of personal choice (Here I need a bit help : )).
I hope the question is ok, if not... sorry in advance.
the stock lollipop optimized version by lost101 + XT1032_Retail_BR_502_Optimized_v1.1a + greenify + xposed + gB is brilliant running smooth , battery life is great :good:
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the stock lollipop optimized version by lost101 + XT1032_Retail_BR_502_Optimized_v1.1a + greenify + xposed + gB is brilliant running smooth , battery life is great :good:
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What is +gB? All general functionality like camera, sensors, GPS work normal, and stable?
Bit unrelated question about lollipop, is there a way to expand the notification card, like message or Google now card in notification bar? When I try to do that on my phone I only get the part with tiles (configuration shortcuts.)...
Thank you for your answer!
!crazy said:
What is +gB? All general functionality like camera, sensors, GPS work normal, and stable?
Bit unrelated question about lollipop, is there a way to expand the notification card, like message or Google now card in notification bar? When I try to do that on my phone I only get the part with tiles (configuration shortcuts.)...
Thank you for your answer!
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+gB meant - Gravitybox (this is killa app my personal favourite )
yes everything works bro, yes its stable (its stock)
link - http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g/development/rom-stock-motorola-lollipop-rom-t3017510
expanded notifications it is
, yeah you can find so many tweaks on xposed -
skinnyj said:
+gB meant - Gravitybox (this is killa app my personal favourite )
yes everything works bro, yes its stable (its stock)
link - http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g/development/rom-stock-motorola-lollipop-rom-t3017510
expanded notifications it is
, yeah you can find so many tweaks on xposed -
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I really didn't expect to find so many xposed modules in so good shape so fast! And you mean they all work, even gravity box!
Regarding stability, I have found many people complain even about official OTA updates. My brother also has serious stability issues with offices stock original, not rooted ROM on his Moto G, so stock doesn't always has to mean stability. People often root and start using custom ROMs because issues with stock.
But that's another story ☺. Thank you very much for your recommendation and very useful input. You have saved me a lot of hours of reading mostly useless stuff. I will definitely make make him flash what you recommended ☺. He was a bit afraid first when he found our he is losing his warranty when he applies for a device number, for unlocking the bootloader, but I remind him that his warranty is anyway not valid any more, and now we are about to proceed with unlocking, flashing TWRP, and this Lolipop ROM you recommended.
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I really didn't expect to find so many xposed modules in so good shape so fast! And you mean they all work, even gravity box!
Regarding stability, I have found many people complain even about official OTA updates. My brother also has serious stability issues with offices stock original, not rooted ROM on his Moto G, so stock doesn't always has to mean stability. People often root and start using custom ROMs because issues with stock.
But that's another story . Thank you very much for your recommendation and very useful input. You have saved me a lot of hours of reading mostly useless stuff. I will definitely make make him flash what you recommended . He was a bit afraid first when he found our he is losing his warranty when he applies for a device number, for unlocking the bootloader, but I remind him that his warranty is anyway not valid any more, and now we are about to proceed with unlocking, flashing TWRP, and this Lolipop ROM you recommended.
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hahahaha, I've been flashing Roms and kernels to see which would suit me best, and I found this amazing stock ROM with amazing battery life.
Cheers
If you want half-bleeding edge ROMs than Dirty Unicorns is quite good with a big load a custom tweaks HOWEVER, I found resource management (RAM mostly) on Dirty Unicorns was . . . less than satisfactory and battery life was average-not great. If you want an up-to-date and almost-as-many-tweaks-as-dirty-unicorns then Exodus is the way to go Rock solid, fluid and quite compatible with custom kernels.
Oh, and about kernels. I cannot recommend ZERO Byte kernel enough. Great battery life, even with slight overclock (meaning better performance) and supports underclock (battery save 2 extreme!)
If him want a stock like and rock stable try AOSP+OMS.