One thing I've found tremendously rare when it comes to ROM development is the use of PIE when only in Expanded Desktop/Immersive mode.
Most ROM's here offering PIE and Expanded desktop allow you enable both at the same time, but don't allow you to toggle PIE on only when in Immersive Mode.
The only rom so far i've found is PA.
So why is it that all these roms are bundling PIE, like SlimPie, but are making it so even in expanded desktop, the navbar buttons are still visible and pie doesn't take over?
To me this feels like common sense, or is the case that most people don't like pie, or don't bother expanding their desktop?
All the ROMs that include pie allow you to expand the desktop and remove the nav keys. Slim does for sure. SlimPIE is how PIE used to be when it was first developed by the PA team (pre-4.4).
PA first developed PIE, years ago. Since then Android has come such a long way that the use of PIE and its implementation has also evolved into something useful, when its needed. For instance, android never had "immersive mode" before 4.4, so initially PIE was thereto allow more use of your screen's real estate.
Some people liked how it was (see PA 3.99, which is not on the Nexus 5 because it's based on Jellybean), and for those SlimPIE and all the other ROMs that include it are there to use, but it's an old way of thinking and the PA team is about innovation.
Of course you can read about all this somewhere, I don't have a link though, I just remember cause I been around a while.
I am using AOSP rom with gravity box. What I do is enable PIE, then the immers mode only hide statusbar. Then I set every diemnsion of the navbar to 0 px (width, height), because if I disable navbar the three dot menu button disappears from the apps. I set immersmode to only hide statusbar because in full immers if I swipe up from the bottom to activates PIE then the statusbar becomes visible which I do not want.
Dodgexander said:
One thing I've found tremendously rare when it comes to ROM development is the use of PIE when only in Expanded Desktop/Immersive mode.
Most ROM's here offering PIE and Expanded desktop allow you enable both at the same time, but don't allow you to toggle PIE on only when in Immersive Mode.
The only rom so far i've found is PA.
So why is it that all these roms are bundling PIE, like SlimPie, but are making it so even in expanded desktop, the navbar buttons are still visible and pie doesn't take over?
To me this feels like common sense, or is the case that most people don't like pie, or don't bother expanding their desktop?
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I totally agree. I have no idea why ROMs that have Pie do not automatically switch to Pie when going into Immersive Mode. Everything is supposed to be about ease of use and swiping up to unhide the navbar and then touch the screen again to press a button is silly IMO. Also if you happen to be on a scrollable list or in an app with an up swipe gesture many times it'll trigger that too.
Anyways this can be accomplished on SlimKat using Chamber of Secrets. Someone had created a profile to be imported into Tasker on the thread.
littleguevara said:
All the ROMs that include pie allow you to expand the desktop and remove the nav keys. Slim does for sure. SlimPIE is how PIE used to be when it was first developed by the PA team (pre-4.4).
PA first developed PIE, years ago. Since then Android has come such a long way that the use of PIE and its implementation has also evolved into something useful, when its needed. For instance, android never had "immersive mode" before 4.4, so initially PIE was thereto allow more use of your screen's real estate.
Some people liked how it was (see PA 3.99, which is not on the Nexus 5 because it's based on Jellybean), and for those SlimPIE and all the other ROMs that include it are there to use, but it's an old way of thinking and the PA team is about innovation.
Of course you can read about all this somewhere, I don't have a link though, I just remember cause I been around a while.
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Thanks for explaining this, it makes sense. I wish roms had the latest version of PIE instead, if not, I wish they added an option to simply disable nav bar instead of pie when you set both to appear bottom of screen. Unlike current behaviour which is to disable pie at bottom when navbar is also at bottom.
bitdomo said:
I am using AOSP rom with gravity box. What I do is enable PIE, then the immers mode only hide statusbar. Then I set every diemnsion of the navbar to 0 px (width, height), because if I disable navbar the three dot menu button disappears from the apps. I set immersmode to only hide statusbar because in full immers if I swipe up from the bottom to activates PIE then the statusbar becomes visible which I do not want.
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If I understand right, doesn't this mean that you have to use pie regardless of immersive mode or not? I am looking to have it toggle on when immersive is on and off when immersive is off.
AndrasLOHF said:
I totally agree. I have no idea why ROMs that have Pie do not automatically switch to Pie when going into Immersive Mode. Everything is supposed to be about ease of use and swiping up to unhide the navbar and then touch the screen again to press a button is silly IMO. Also if you happen to be on a scrollable list or in an app with an up swipe gesture many times it'll trigger that too.
Anyways this can be accomplished on SlimKat using Chamber of Secrets. Someone had created a profile to be imported into Tasker on the thread.
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A profile for tasker that automates toggling nav bar off and pie on, only when in immersive mode and then nav bar on again and pei off when out of immersive mode?
I am just glad PA has what I want and even better now with Peek and Hover being added too. But I do miss simple things from other roms, such as certain toggles, dpi changes etc. Although ive managed to find apps/widgets to replace those functionalities. I simply opened the thread because I thought it was rather strange.
Dodgexander said:
A profile for tasker that automates toggling nav bar off and pie on, only when in immersive mode and then nav bar on again and pei off when out of immersive mode?
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Yes. It reads a system intent and then changes to Pie based on the system ui change. I don't have mine set up like that personally. I only use Expanded mode on certain apps or when the phone is in landscape mode on certain apps, etc. and have profiles set to kill the nav bar and enable expanded desktop mode. I just always leave bottom pie enabled and once the navbar is removed pie comes into play. Works perfectly.
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Yes. It reads a system intent and then changes to Pie based on the system ui change. I don't have mine set up like that personally. I only use Expanded mode on certain apps or when the phone is in landscape mode on certain apps, etc. and have profiles set to kill the nav bar and enable expanded desktop mode. I just always leave bottom pie enabled and once the navbar is removed pie comes into play. Works perfectly.
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That is true, because of the way PIE is disabled when Nav Bar exists, it means you shouldn't have to have an option to disable PIE also when you leave Immersive.
I just wish every rom had an option to enable PIE action to copy PA
Exactly, you'll find while other ROMs have a ton of features, PAs is the most elegant implementation. It may take a little longer cause they're rewriting everything from scratch but it'll be well worth it..as is evidenced by this latest release.
Longtime lurker but new member with a quick question.
So I just made the switch from cm11s to paranoid Android (peek, hover, and pie ftw), and I had a quick question. The one thing I am missing from cm is the ability to switch which side notifications/quick settings pull down from (to get notifications to pull down from the left). Does anyone know if there is a way to do this on PA, or if they plan on implementing it in the future?
After updating to Android L, I was poking around the setting seeing what is new. I pressed a button to invert the color on the phone. Now when I go to the quick toggles in the dropdown shade, I get a toggle for inverting the color, and the screen rotation toggle is missing. Please help, I use this toggle a lot and I do not know how to get it back.
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After updating to Android L, I was poking around the setting seeing what is new. I pressed a button to invert the color on the phone. Now when I go to the quick toggles in the dropdown shade, I get a toggle for inverting the color, and the screen rotation toggle is missing. Please help, I use this toggle a lot and I do not know how to get it back.
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Come on, at least pretend like you searched before posting.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/help/lollipop-quick-toggles-t2940519
http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/help/screen-rotation-option-disappeared-t2938969
http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/help/lollipop-screen-rotate-t2940311
In settings, accessibility tick the box
To be honest, Heads up notifications are one part of Lollipop that show me how unfinished Android is and how uncomfortable it can be (also compared to iOS, which I don't really like)
I mean, basically its a good idea to see whats in your notifications, but I would make two changes to it:
1. small notifications when in selected apps: For example, you are in a game. you don't want to disable the heads up completely for this app, but it shouldnt be so big. so it could be just one line, very small and not disturbing. like a ticker, with the height of the statusbar.
2. The heads up notification should go down into the notification bar when you pull it down. Would be a simple but good looking animation. Atm, at least on touchwiz roms, when you pull the notification bar down while a heads up notification is on screen, the notification bar is behind the heads up. Very ugly.
What do you think?
I agree, very annoying..
With HeadsOff lollipop heads-up notifications can now be disabled!
No root needed.
You can also restore the ticker text in the statusbar!
Give it a try:
Download from Playstore
XDA thread
i also hated it... but when i successfuly installed xposed on my device, i changed it's timeout for 2 seconds with gravitybox. after it I don't think it's a problem anymore and I don't need to pull the notification panel to see notifications. the problem is the timeout not heads up itself.
Yeah GravityBox through Xposed can help.
Hope Google might change this in final build of Android M.
I just got my new Pixel 2 and I am loving it so far. I used to have Samsungs/HTCs before I moved to Pixel. I used to use the volume tile icon to toggle between ringer and vibrate modes. Since I go to a lot of impromptu meetings, this tile was very useful. I could change the volume setting to ringer/vibrate/silent based on the type of meeting I was in. I don't see a similar tile or any other way to quickly toggle between vibrate/full volume/mute modes or the option to have the volume bar on the first pulldown of the menu.
How do I get this feature on my Pixel 2? Is there any way to add more tiles that are not provided in the default list?
Thank you.
Yeah there is
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cgollner.quicktiles
To toggle between silent etc
For volume
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.sugr.volumetile
uday029 said:
I just got my new Pixel 2 and I am loving it so far. I used to have Samsungs/HTCs before I moved to Pixel. I used to use the volume tile icon to toggle between ringer and vibrate modes. Since I go to a lot of impromptu meetings, this tile was very useful. I could change the volume setting to ringer/vibrate/silent based on the type of meeting I was in. I don't see a similar tile or any other way to quickly toggle between vibrate/full volume/mute modes or the option to have the volume bar on the first pulldown of the menu.
How do I get this feature on my Pixel 2? Is there any way to add more tiles that are not provided in the default list?
Thank you.
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If you only want the volume tile, the links from jaggillararla are what you want.
If you want to take a leap to have many more tiles, try Shortcutter. https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-shortcutter-qs-tiles-t3564186 and https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.leedroid.shortcutter