Hi there. Lovin the N5 so far. Definitely the fastest phone I have ever used (and I've used tons). Trying to move to more gesture based things and looking for a way to hide the status / nav bars so I can just use Pie and swipe down for status bar / notifications. I can use GMD Gesture Controls to hide both, but it reverts back to normal after I lock the screen. Plus the status bar doesn't swipe down easily if at all like that. Anyone else have any ideas or just have to wait till more devs get their N5s to build up the KitKat support for mods?
One thing I've found tremendously rare when it comes to ROM development is the use of PIE when only in Expanded Desktop/Immersive mode.
Most ROM's here offering PIE and Expanded desktop allow you enable both at the same time, but don't allow you to toggle PIE on only when in Immersive Mode.
The only rom so far i've found is PA.
So why is it that all these roms are bundling PIE, like SlimPie, but are making it so even in expanded desktop, the navbar buttons are still visible and pie doesn't take over?
To me this feels like common sense, or is the case that most people don't like pie, or don't bother expanding their desktop?
All the ROMs that include pie allow you to expand the desktop and remove the nav keys. Slim does for sure. SlimPIE is how PIE used to be when it was first developed by the PA team (pre-4.4).
PA first developed PIE, years ago. Since then Android has come such a long way that the use of PIE and its implementation has also evolved into something useful, when its needed. For instance, android never had "immersive mode" before 4.4, so initially PIE was thereto allow more use of your screen's real estate.
Some people liked how it was (see PA 3.99, which is not on the Nexus 5 because it's based on Jellybean), and for those SlimPIE and all the other ROMs that include it are there to use, but it's an old way of thinking and the PA team is about innovation.
Of course you can read about all this somewhere, I don't have a link though, I just remember cause I been around a while.
I am using AOSP rom with gravity box. What I do is enable PIE, then the immers mode only hide statusbar. Then I set every diemnsion of the navbar to 0 px (width, height), because if I disable navbar the three dot menu button disappears from the apps. I set immersmode to only hide statusbar because in full immers if I swipe up from the bottom to activates PIE then the statusbar becomes visible which I do not want.
Dodgexander said:
One thing I've found tremendously rare when it comes to ROM development is the use of PIE when only in Expanded Desktop/Immersive mode.
Most ROM's here offering PIE and Expanded desktop allow you enable both at the same time, but don't allow you to toggle PIE on only when in Immersive Mode.
The only rom so far i've found is PA.
So why is it that all these roms are bundling PIE, like SlimPie, but are making it so even in expanded desktop, the navbar buttons are still visible and pie doesn't take over?
To me this feels like common sense, or is the case that most people don't like pie, or don't bother expanding their desktop?
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I totally agree. I have no idea why ROMs that have Pie do not automatically switch to Pie when going into Immersive Mode. Everything is supposed to be about ease of use and swiping up to unhide the navbar and then touch the screen again to press a button is silly IMO. Also if you happen to be on a scrollable list or in an app with an up swipe gesture many times it'll trigger that too.
Anyways this can be accomplished on SlimKat using Chamber of Secrets. Someone had created a profile to be imported into Tasker on the thread.
littleguevara said:
All the ROMs that include pie allow you to expand the desktop and remove the nav keys. Slim does for sure. SlimPIE is how PIE used to be when it was first developed by the PA team (pre-4.4).
PA first developed PIE, years ago. Since then Android has come such a long way that the use of PIE and its implementation has also evolved into something useful, when its needed. For instance, android never had "immersive mode" before 4.4, so initially PIE was thereto allow more use of your screen's real estate.
Some people liked how it was (see PA 3.99, which is not on the Nexus 5 because it's based on Jellybean), and for those SlimPIE and all the other ROMs that include it are there to use, but it's an old way of thinking and the PA team is about innovation.
Of course you can read about all this somewhere, I don't have a link though, I just remember cause I been around a while.
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Thanks for explaining this, it makes sense. I wish roms had the latest version of PIE instead, if not, I wish they added an option to simply disable nav bar instead of pie when you set both to appear bottom of screen. Unlike current behaviour which is to disable pie at bottom when navbar is also at bottom.
bitdomo said:
I am using AOSP rom with gravity box. What I do is enable PIE, then the immers mode only hide statusbar. Then I set every diemnsion of the navbar to 0 px (width, height), because if I disable navbar the three dot menu button disappears from the apps. I set immersmode to only hide statusbar because in full immers if I swipe up from the bottom to activates PIE then the statusbar becomes visible which I do not want.
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If I understand right, doesn't this mean that you have to use pie regardless of immersive mode or not? I am looking to have it toggle on when immersive is on and off when immersive is off.
AndrasLOHF said:
I totally agree. I have no idea why ROMs that have Pie do not automatically switch to Pie when going into Immersive Mode. Everything is supposed to be about ease of use and swiping up to unhide the navbar and then touch the screen again to press a button is silly IMO. Also if you happen to be on a scrollable list or in an app with an up swipe gesture many times it'll trigger that too.
Anyways this can be accomplished on SlimKat using Chamber of Secrets. Someone had created a profile to be imported into Tasker on the thread.
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A profile for tasker that automates toggling nav bar off and pie on, only when in immersive mode and then nav bar on again and pei off when out of immersive mode?
I am just glad PA has what I want and even better now with Peek and Hover being added too. But I do miss simple things from other roms, such as certain toggles, dpi changes etc. Although ive managed to find apps/widgets to replace those functionalities. I simply opened the thread because I thought it was rather strange.
Dodgexander said:
A profile for tasker that automates toggling nav bar off and pie on, only when in immersive mode and then nav bar on again and pei off when out of immersive mode?
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Yes. It reads a system intent and then changes to Pie based on the system ui change. I don't have mine set up like that personally. I only use Expanded mode on certain apps or when the phone is in landscape mode on certain apps, etc. and have profiles set to kill the nav bar and enable expanded desktop mode. I just always leave bottom pie enabled and once the navbar is removed pie comes into play. Works perfectly.
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Yes. It reads a system intent and then changes to Pie based on the system ui change. I don't have mine set up like that personally. I only use Expanded mode on certain apps or when the phone is in landscape mode on certain apps, etc. and have profiles set to kill the nav bar and enable expanded desktop mode. I just always leave bottom pie enabled and once the navbar is removed pie comes into play. Works perfectly.
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That is true, because of the way PIE is disabled when Nav Bar exists, it means you shouldn't have to have an option to disable PIE also when you leave Immersive.
I just wish every rom had an option to enable PIE action to copy PA
Exactly, you'll find while other ROMs have a ton of features, PAs is the most elegant implementation. It may take a little longer cause they're rewriting everything from scratch but it'll be well worth it..as is evidenced by this latest release.
I have flashed Paranoid Android on my Nexus 4 after getting tired of stock upgrade OTA messages and failure to apply them. The ROM works just fine but it seems GravityBox has lost some of its gravity. It turns out the ROM keeps changing things back. Is there a way for them to make peace? I pretty much need the following pieces:
customized battery icon. I love the ring with percentage style but PA keeps changing it back.
control over quick settings. with GravityBox I can simply change size, rearrange. I turned it off in PA. but I want it back.
more control over pie. The best I have tasted is Pie Control. The one that comes with PA doesn't work as well.
Also I think there used to be an app dedicated to PA settings. I can't seem to find it any more. Is it obsolete? How do I control the behavior of PA built in features such as immerse mode show status bar or not, show pie or not, etc.
Hi,
I had a ROM once, that allowed me to swipe from left to right or vice versa on notification drawer so I could toggle between notifications panel and quick settings panel (by swipe).
Do you guys now if this is doable with CM11 somehow?
If it is possible it would be with xposed, which doesn't work with art and from my experience makes the phone a little slower.
cih997 said:
Hi,
I had a ROM once, that allowed me to swipe from left to right or vice versa on notification drawer so I could toggle between notifications panel and quick settings panel (by swipe).
Do you guys now if this is doable with CM11 somehow?
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What you described works with swiping on the notification pull down bar. Not inside the drawer itself.
It depends what ROM you're on, some have it, some don't. CM doesn't.
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If it is possible it would be with xposed, which doesn't work with art and from my experience makes the phone a little slower.
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Yeah, this may be xposed. Do you know name of the module maybe? I am trying to find it but no luck so far...
Many people have already found out that the sounds tiles are gone in CM12s. Has anyone yet found a way of adding the tiles back in? I know you can set the notification priority to none, but I personally prefer silent, vibrant modes (I heard that we can switch the mode on the virtual navigation bar). I really need the camera tile in notification drawer back as well. Anyone knows if cyanogen mod is bringing it back or is it simply impossible or a way of reflecting the opinion officially?
Thx a lot