As the title says really. How many of you still have the Sensation? I've had mine 4 years this June. Its still running ok, but seems very slow now. Also extramly limitied with the 1GB of internal memory compared to other phones now.
I think its time to say goodbye and maybe use it in my car for GPS.
Anyone feel the same? What phones have you thought about going to?
I unfortunately had to get the xperia m2 add the audio jack was broken and the mobile days antenna was a bit screwed. Still prefer the sensation over the m2 though. Still use the sensation sometimes though
Still using my Senny, but using any other ROM than KK compiled by myself is really annoying.
Anyway, this phone is still quite good for normal using (I'm not playing games, only internet, calling and sms).
Still going, anker battery showing its age now. Using cm11 by ivanich. Cm12 too slow for me.
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i'm using it with vipers rom
Just got a Sensation XE in preserved condition, save for a drop when the USB was connected, so uh...Hi!
Had my first sensation xe in 2012 and regretted every moment when i sold it back in 2013. In 2014 i tried to find another sensation as a 2nd phone but sadly its pretty scarce in my country. A friend of mine offered to sell his xe for a sweet price and i grabbed it! i still love the xe, pretty good for music, online tv and the usual call & text
Had mine for around 2years before the capacitive buttons became unresponsive..nice phone though.
I've had mine for 3 years now and it's still able to handle the light tasks I need it to handle. If I were to upgrade soon I think I'd wait to see what plans Google has with the new Nexus.
Been using it for the past 3 years. I update once every 6 months to the latest happening ROM. Currently I'm on CM12 (Ivanich) with an 8G SD-EXT on a 32G Samsung Pro card. No more 'insufficient storage' problems.
While not as snappy as the modern phones due to older processor and low ram, it performs well without any major hassles for the kinds of apps I use (mail. im, maps, browsing etc.). I had to replace the original batteries with Anker though.
I still actually have this phone. Unfortunately, I had to switch to another phone due screen problems, but I fixed it and I keep it as 2nd phone in case of need...and I reverted it to Gingerbread, it was a fantastic release in my opinion
I am still using my sensation XE, with stock ROM.
It is still working also I did a root, S-OFF, 4EXT.
Tried: CM-9,CM-11,CM-12, SlimKat, Revolution-HD, Carbon-KK.
I like all of these ROMs but they "eat" my battery very fast like about 15hrs .. . which is not suitable for me plus the fact that using the Stock ROM I had like battery energy
for 24hrs-to 48hrs MAX (depends on the load of using it).
The problem could be just in my battery, can't tell for sure but with my stock it lives longer without charging.
So far I am locked with stock ROM.
im still using Sensation 4g with SLIM KAT rom.Low app storage is the problem
Still using it now, runing CM12 by Ivanich. I use it well under my optimization. But if CM13 stops its update for G14, I think it's time to change a new phone.
Selling mine
Sadly, I just decided to put our two Sensations up for sale on SWAPPA. :crying: I learned a lot about Android phones by rooting & flashing many ROMs on mine.
Great phone, totally reliable and looks awesome too. But, it's being overtaken by newer tech.
Can't say I'm real thrilled with the replacement phones we got from TMO (Alcaltel Pop Astro) but at least they do LTE and VoLTE on TMO's full spectrum.
I just sold my oneplus one, back on the senny for a week, waiting for my replacement (g4 ? redmi note 2 ?)
what is the best rom ? cm12.1 is a little slow, viper s too....
I was forced back to this phone just yesterday actually, glad i kept it. I botched a flash on the LG G3 and hard bricked it (like totally, nothing on screen, buttons don't do anything board diag shows failure, still shows up as LG in the device manager so the qualcomm fixes wont work).
It seemed really sluggish, and had parts of apps everywhere on it (i stole its SD card for my LG ), so i flashed Slimkat on it. works nicely enough, though i've noticed that any rom that is over 4.0.2 (what it originally came with), just doesn't perform as well as stock. However the clean OS and the extra ram from a complete clean like that, will make it standable until the LG is replaced.
What I like about it is that it is very robust. My little daughter wasn't able to destroy it yet.
So I guess I will stick with it as long as I can.
I had mine for about 3 years, first rom I ever flashed was android resolution HD, then vipers.
I still have it. Sensation never die, now it have android 6.0 and its awesome.
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I really wana buy the phone and root it and put cm7 would I still have random shutdowns ? Please share your experience . Right now I have HTC panache from Canada if anyone wana trade
I would like to know the same question. The only difference is that I bought the g2x already and I'm about to kick t mobile in the face because this is the second one that I have had and they are extremely unstable (t mobile told me the phone was a great phone they are full of sh#t). I really like the phone and all the features, but I don't want to flash another ROM unless I know that it will fix the random boot looping, and random shutdowns. Until they give me a better phone or lg updates this thing with gingerbread then I'm stuck in a hole and don't want to do anything.
CM7 nightly #80 here. Haven't had a random shutdown/reboot/whatever since I don't know when. Then again, I install do almost every nightly, so my phone gets a reboot every other day or so. Testing Faux's kernel now.
Overall the stock rom is a sack of crap and you should definitely look into another rom/kernel. Most if not all of this phone's issues are software and more get fixed every day.
Not if you don't plan to root it and load a different ROM
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I would say a big No to buying this phone now.
Had mine since release day, running CM7 now. Even though things are much better with CM7 this phone has 0 support from LG or Nvidia.
If you are in the market for a new phone I would just wait a few months and get the new Nexus thats going to be released.
N1 was my first phone then the G2x but from now on I think i'm only going to stick to Nexus line of phones as they get their support from Google.
I am with you on this one...if you can wait it out, do it. I have this strange feeling the update we get from LG will be our last. Seriously look how long it's taking them to release plain gb.
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If you plan to root/flash/mod it, then YES this will be a great phone for you! Definitely buy it! The experience with stock rom seems to be hit/miss -- some people claim to have no issues, while others (myself included) had problems with random reboots and other glitches.
I rooted mine 2 days after getting it, and I've flashed several different roms onto it, and it has been a great phone. Its a beast for sure. I've settled on CM7 because I love the speed/battery-life/custom settings. But I also like Ultimate G2X 1.0 for a Froyo/Stock-based rom.
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I am with you on this one...if you can wait it out, do it. I have this strange feeling the update we get from LG will be our last. Seriously look how long it's taking them to release plain gb.
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What are you basing this "feeling" off of? Its only been 2 months since the phone was released. I do think they would've been better to wait until they had gingerbread ready before releasing the phone, but this phone will be a viable piece of hardware for some time to come. Its a powerhouse.
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I would say a big No to buying this phone now.
Had mine since release day, running CM7 now. Even though things are much better with CM7 this phone has 0 support from LG or Nvidia.
If you are in the market for a new phone I would just wait a few months and get the new Nexus thats going to be released.
N1 was my first phone then the G2x but from now on I think i'm only going to stick to Nexus line of phones as they get their support from Google.
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I'm with you on sticking with the Nexus phones if you want the quickest updates to Android. However I dont think that means this is a bad phone to buy. I had the Nexus One and I loved it. I was even reluctant to switch to the G2X because I loved my N1 so much. The Nexus S wasn't enough of an upgrade for me, so I decided to go ahead and get the G2X. Looking back, I'm glad I did. This phone is amazing and I'd make the same decision again.
Granted, I bought it planning to root/mod it. I wouldn't recommend it for someone who wants a surefire 100% stable stock experience. But if you're gonna mod it then its a perfect phone. Great hardware and there are some great devs supporting this phone.
Im in canada and i bought one from Wind Mobile, (they call it the optimus 2x, but its really a G2x) I havent had a single problem with it thus far, no screen bleeding, freezes, or reboots.
If you do get one, make sure you dont make the mistake i did. When you flash it use Nvflash, and only refer to the g2x forums.
If anyone wants to buy a G2X, I have one for sale in new condition without a scratch or blemish on it. I returned 4 of them to get my current one which is perfect without any bugs and only some minor screen bleed. I don't think you can find one without any bleed at all but mine is only noticeable in a dark room with the brightness cranked to 100 while looking at a dark background. No screen bleed is noticeable during normal use. I had my G2X for almost 2 months without a single reboot, freeze or any other major problem. The battery on mine also lasts a ling time compared to some other reports I see in these forums. If your interested, make me a offer. You will get everything it came with, including the box.
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Im in canada and i bought one from Wind Mobile, (they call it the optimus 2x, but its really a G2x) I havent had a single problem with it thus far, no screen bleeding, freezes, or reboots.
If you do get one, make sure you dont make the mistake i did. When you flash it use Nvflash, and only refer to the g2x forums.
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Mines from Wind as well and no issues other than poor stock ROM battery life, since I've rooted it and set profiles with SetCPU and used to Titanium to freeze background bloat I can last until around 10-11PM before it's dead and needs a charge. Not the best but gets me through a day.
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Mines from Wind as well and no issues other than poor stock ROM battery life, since I've rooted it and set profiles with SetCPU and used to Titanium to freeze background bloat I can last until around 10-11PM before it's dead and needs a charge. Not the best but gets me through a day.
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I got mine from wind and return in 4 days so many random reboots
running rc-1 here and haven't had any problems at all. I love my phone. Love eeverything about it. But like someone said above tthere is really no support for it. And there is going to be a line of a bunch of dual core phones with probably the same specs soon to come. If I were you I might wait it out. Although it is a great phone running cm7
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I would wait for Official Gingerbread before you buy this phone. Has many bugs right now. Auto shutdown, reboot, screen bleed (hardware), wifi disconnection, ect... Best phone out there is Galaxy S2 if you're willing to import.
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I would wait for Official Gingerbread before you buy this phone. Has many bugs right now. Auto shutdown, reboot, screen bleed (hardware), wifi disconnection, ect... Best phone out there is Galaxy S2 if you're willing to import and switch carriers
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Hanging up my super reliable Htc Inspire 4g i have had this Sensation Z710A for just a week, and i have to say that in it's stock form it is slow
For a dual core processor i expected more, the fact is with this current rom on it is slower than my inspire.
While the subject of WIFI dropouts has been covered in the forums it is also the slow data speeds on 3G, not just wifi issues.
Sense 3 on this is slower than the sense 3 rom on my inspire.
This phone is nicer to hold and look at than the desire/inspire, but sadly in its current stock form it isn't worth a pinch of goat ****. Except to say HD Voice is awesome, but thats the network not the phone per say. (ok you need the right hardware to use HD voice and the sensation is one of the phones capable of doing so)
I am sure when/if we ever get root for this phone the mass of custom roms will make this a truly magnificent phone, until then, it's going back in the box and out comes my trusty inspire.
Sorry to hear you're having trouble mate. Mine has been fine on Telstra. Next g is plenty fast enough for me, and I've noticed no WiFi issues.
My previous phone was a Nexus One (Google).
The Sensation is quick in comparison, and I cant fault it. It has better WiFi that my wife's iPhone 4, and no drop-outs.
Very fast for me.
Loving mine from Telstra too...Wifi dropouts are f*ing ridiculous though...I can block it with one finger in the right spot.
Hey Guys, don't get me wrong, the phone is brilliant, i just feel that with the current rom it feels "held back".
In hindsight i guess my comparison between my rooted and custom rom Inspire to this locked down rom on the sensation was perhaps unfair.
But, like i said, the phone is awesome, just a bit slow when compared to my inspire.
LOL, don't think i have buyers remorse...hell NO. I just want what we haven't got yet.... rooted and custom rom
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Loving mine from Telstra too...Wifi dropouts are f*ing ridiculous though...I can block it with one finger in the right spot.
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HOW? i've tried my damdest to figure out how to hold it "wrong" so i can learnt o not do it, and i seriously can't figure it out
Once you know, you will not be able to avoid it. Stay oblivious
dont hold it! hehe.
Have it on Telstra as well, haven't noticed issues with wifi... One thing I have noticed coming from DHD Leedroid rom, that with the Sensation I don't know if it me or the phone but seems the touch screen becomes unresponsive every now and then. Have only had it for a few days but going to give it another week before I say anything else.
Mine's faster than my Desire HD ever was & i've had no wifi problems.
I'm getting a better wifi signal than on my DHD
Due to several issues with ATT support and service my wife and I paid our ETFs to terminate our contract. The other night we were looking at T-Mobile and found a cheaper but better plan then what is offered by ATT and the free G2Xs, we jumped on board.
My question is will we like this phone? I have been doing some reading and it sounds like there might be some hardware or software issues. What is the general consensus on this forum about the phone overall? I'm coming from an HTC Aria which was rooted and running an AOSP build and I love it. My wife is coming from a 3GS, which she loves but is willing to try Android.
My phone is perfectly fine, I've only run into reboots when messing with voltages in setCPU.
Cyanogenmod nightly and fauxs kernel works brilliantly.
If you like a crazy fast phone with amazing graphics rendering and fantastic sound then you will love the phone. With Gingerbread most of the problems have been mitigated. Plus you got in on the free deal so you can't beat the price.
You'll like it.
Bright Screen
Fast response
Stock Android
Ever since I updated 2.3.3 (did it only to get baseband) phone is solid. Had growing pains but I'm happy with it. Might just sell the myTouch 4G spare I have. I see no need to move back to it.
Just make sure its updated with latest 2.3.3 you can flash a custom ROM. Can't speak for 2.3.3 because haven't used a stock ROM in ages.
Hardware wise its best phone, despite the bad PR
Why come to Tmobile if you are trying to leave AT&T, when it is very possible that Tmobile will be AT&T soon?
I just got my free g2x. My reboots are only when the phone gets hot which is on the wall charger. When it's charging on my PC its fine. I love it though and will give it more time.
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Yes i love mine im coming from a verizon thunderfart i love how fast it is plus love vanilla android
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Due to several issues with ATT support and service my wife and I paid our ETFs to terminate our contract. The other night we were looking at T-Mobile and found a cheaper but better plan then what is offered by ATT and the free G2Xs, we jumped on board.
My question is will we like this phone? I have been doing some reading and it sounds like there might be some hardware or software issues. What is the general consensus on this forum about the phone overall? I'm coming from an HTC Aria which was rooted and running an AOSP build and I love it. My wife is coming from a 3GS, which she loves but is willing to try Android.
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Phone is awesome. LG/Tmobile firmware is decent with the GB upgrade. If you flash a custom rom to this thing then it is freaking amazing. Its a very powerful phone. The unlocked bootloader gives us so much freedom for customizing. Whether you decide to flash roms or not, use the nvflash tool in the development section to put clockworkmod recovery on your phones. Its much more useful than stock recovery, and if you ever want to flash a rom you're all set to do so. Just remember to revert back to stock recovery (using the same nvflash tool) if you have to ever return the phones to T-Mobile for any reason.
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I just got my free g2x. My reboots are only when the phone gets hot which is on the wall charger. When it's charging on my PC its fine. I love it though and will give it more time.
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RE: Heat, I found after a full restore it helps out, this was posted before I tried.
I set up a thread for how to start up a new G2x
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1198094&highlight=setup+g2x
Boils down to, do a full factory restore, inside privacy settings, when it boots up, go to Marketplace search "T-Mobile My Account", install that first. Then proceed as you will.
I have some old chargers for other phones that are the same sized, the stock one is 1w and the others I have are 700 mw and 800mw all 5 volts +/- .2
They charge slower, and keep the temperature down. I have like 3 of these hanging around.
Seriously after my full rest, the phone was noticeable cooler. This on 2.2 might not be valid on 2.3 but likely is
Thanks. I haven't had a reboot in a while but if or when I do I will follow your guide.
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Thanks. I haven't had a reboot in a while but if or when I do I will follow your guide.
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Thats for a complete erase restore, not a reboot, which is why its for a new phone or one that you are prepared to have blanked
This phone is a beast! The only issue I'm having is with the visual voicemail app. Any thoughts, it will not progress past account setup
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This phone is a beast! The only issue I'm having is with the visual voicemail app. Any thoughts, it will not progress past account setup
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Contact tmobile and have them setup your account with visual voicemail, it's free.
I love this phone, +1 for what everyone else said. Its got its issues but its still the best phone out there. The screen resolution IMO beats out any Samsung samoled, hands down. The bad news for you though is that it's more than likely going to be a snafu for you if you go with tmo. It looks like att will be buying them as of next year some time. I hear the FCC will approved this. I hope its not true. Gl
"a phone to make you numb, a phone to make you dumb, a phone to make you anybody else...
All the roms in this world... wont save you from yourself"
I'll take a year away from Att even if thats all I get.
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seangprice said:
Due to several issues with ATT support and service my wife and I paid our ETFs to terminate our contract. The other night we were looking at T-Mobile and found a cheaper but better plan then what is offered by ATT and the free G2Xs, we jumped on board.
My question is will we like this phone? I have been doing some reading and it sounds like there might be some hardware or software issues. What is the general consensus on this forum about the phone overall? I'm coming from an HTC Aria which was rooted and running an AOSP build and I love it. My wife is coming from a 3GS, which she loves but is willing to try Android.
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My phone works fine now after about 5-6 of them but their giving this phone away for free for a reason and that's because its a piece of crap. Never has a phone with this good a specs gone down in price so quickly and even given away for free for the second or third time. Probably should of got a HTC Sensation or MT4G Slide would of definitely been better of.
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My previous phone was a HTC Aria, small and under powered compared to the new phones on the market. That being said I love the Aria; easy to root and very durable. I have looked into newer HTC devices and I have "read" that the sensation has some design issues or flaws with the screen? Digitizer? I don't think you'll find a phone out there without problems. I gave the G2X a try because I didn't want to spend any money on new phones considering I have paid my way out of an ATT contract. If the Phone is crap I can go back to my unlocked Aria.
You will run into many problems like auto shutdown/reboot, screen bleed and hit/miss wifi. This phone doesn't work out of the box. Don't waste your time on this phone. I would wait for next Nexus or a Galaxy S2.
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You will run into many problems like auto shutdown/reboot, screen bleed and hit/miss wifi. This phone doesn't work out of the box. Don't waste your time on this phone. I would wait for next Nexus or a Galaxy S2.
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Have you ever considered running errant apps has caused your problems? My G2X has been updated to GB, never reboots, never lockups, the wifi is perfect and screen bleed is a non issue. I never use my phone in a dark room with the brightness turned all the way up with a black background. That is the only way to see the so-called screen bleed. All IPS backlight displays have it, and I have had it on every notebook I have ever owned. It is normal and for normal usage a complete non issue. I am using my phone stock and unrooted.
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Have you ever considered running errant apps has caused your problems? My G2X has been updated to GB, never reboots, never lockups, the wifi is perfect and screen bleed is a non issue. I never use my phone in a dark room with the brightness turned all the way up with a black background. That is the only way to see the so-called screen bleed. All IPS backlight displays have it, and I have had it on every notebook I have ever owned. It is normal and for normal usage a complete non issue. I am using my phone stock and unrooted.
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Many people have had reboots and freezes with no apps installed but anyway the phones that have bad screen bleed are way worse than you think I had 1 of those
Other 2 I agree not a problem but there are/were
Some out there that were awrful.
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Hey guys... well I didn't want this to be another "**** you Motorola, I'M OUT!" thread, instead I wanted to let you guys know how I got my A2 replaced and say thanks to a few people.
I'm currently on my 4th A2 and this one is starting to exhibit all the same signs that the 2nd one did (audio from the speaker is bad, random restarts etc.) I've been with AT&T since it was AT&T then bought by Cingular then back to AT&T, so I have a little clout with them. I've also made sure to document with them every issue both locally here at the repair center and with phone support.
I called up AT&T 2 nights ago and went through the usual run around. I let them know I had already done a factory restore and all the other scripted steps and the problem persists. FInally I got them to agree to replace the phone. They initially offered me a Galaxy sII or an Atrix HD. The rep stayed on the phone for 15 minutes quietly and patiently waiting while I researched each phone's specs and reviews. I told them I needed to think about it and research each phone. I was none too happy about this because when I bought my phone I had an entire store to choose from, but now they were only offering me choices of 2 phones, neither of which I would have chosen from the current crop. I asked them if I could call back with a decision but the rep informed me that "other call centers" don't have the same abilities she did at this call center but that she could call me the next day at a specific time.
When she called back I explained my frustration again with only being able to choose from another locked down Motorola phone or a last generation Samsung, and politely asked for a manager. She put me on hold and came back to tell me that it was in the middle of a shift change and that the sole manager was on a call with another customer BUT she had asked him for another option of phone and he agreed to an HTC OneX. I accepted and they even waived the expedited shipping fee.
So I'm leaving this bastard device in the dust but wanted to say a HUGH thank you to to entire community before I left. Thanks to Jim, rdavisct, Apex-Strider, and everyone for being a great community that stuck together despite being abandoned by Motorola.
TL;DR: AT&T is giving me an HTC OneX because the Atrix2 is a steaming pile of poo, and thanks to everyone here for being awesome.
Sorry about your experience but it's not representative of the A2. You were just terribly unlucky to get 4 lemons in a row! Anyway, great deal you extracted for yourself. Enjoy your new phone.
Man you guys(customers in the us) are really kings! Cant expect anything like that here, even if its a legit problem they will tell you that there is a liquid damage and its not covered under warranty.. thats how bad customer care is in india.
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athani said:
Sorry about your experience but it's not representative of the A2. You were just terribly unlucky to get 4 lemons in a row! Anyway, great deal you extracted for yourself. Enjoy your new phone.
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I am sorry to say but it is kinda normal.... I have had 7 A2s now, 4 of them were my fault because of the BL stuff and the other 3 were just issues with the phone itself.
Hahaha...great score, One X? Nicccee. Sorry to have ya leave but I'm sure your not lol. Good luck in the future and enjoy the new toy!
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dont forget the american One X is only dual core afaik
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Man you guys(customers in the us) are really kings! Cant expect anything like that here, even if its a legit problem they will tell you that there is a liquid damage and its not covered under warranty.. thats how bad customer care is in india.
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Thats exactly what the samsung reps said about my fathers s2 when i took it to them for battery drain.
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anikadam said:
Thats exactly what the samsung reps said about my fathers s2 when i took it to them for battery drain.
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did you ask your father about the water damage? what about the indicators?
no offense but out of 90% phones i've seen that had battery drain, the water sticker was red.
Wow... good deal on the one X!
I bought my A2 new and NEVER had an issue that wasn't my fault (recently accidentally deleted the home launcher app so now I'm forced to run a play store launcher).
The only thing that bugs me bout this phone is that locked BL and no official ICS.... other than that great phone!
Enjoy!
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gabo_e30 said:
Wow... good deal on the one X!
I bought my A2 new and NEVER had an issue that wasn't my fault (recently accidentally deleted the home launcher app so now I'm forced to run a play store launcher).
The only thing that bugs me bout this phone is that locked BL and no official ICS.... other than that great phone!
Enjoy!
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I find hard to believe the histories of this people saying that they are going for their 4, 5 or even 6 device and all of them gave them problems, i think they just dont understand that android is a very unstable OS and if they install a lot of apps from the play store (a lot of them crash sometimes) and also are trying to install custom roms and other stuff it is obvious they are gonna get some kind of random reboot or any other issue, but that does not mean that the phone itself is bad.
now some people may kill me for saying this, but i think atleast untill gingerbread, android is far away from iOS (i dont know about ICS), say all you want that apple dont let you do this and that, but iOS is just a great OS, even from its first version was as smooth as "project butter" in jelly bean or even more. before i had my atrix i just had a "regular phone" and an ipod touch 4g, its been hard to get used to android. is a little laggy, the web browser is not even closer to the browser in iOS (i dont really care about flash) and the famous widgets of android are just crap, the so called super customization is not more that a bunch of ugly widgets on the screen that just make the phone looks "dirty" , windows phone gave a much better and elegant solution for widgets.
everyone is always hating on apple here, and there are some reasons to hate apple, i agree, but for the most part the iphone has been ahead of android phones since always.
there, i said it!
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I find hard to believe the histories of this people saying that they are going for their 4, 5 or even 6 device and all of them gave them problems, i think they just dont understand that android is a very unstable OS and if they install a lot of apps from the play store (a lot of them crash sometimes) and also are trying to install custom roms and other stuff it is obvious they are gonna get some kind of random reboot or any other issue, but that does not mean that the phone itself is bad.
now some people may kill me for saying this, but i think atleast untill gingerbread, android is far away from iOS (i dont know about ICS), say all you want that apple dont let you do this and that, but iOS is just a great OS, even from its first version was as smooth as "project butter" in jelly bean or even more. before i had my atrix i just had a "regular phone" and an ipod touch 4g, its been hard to get used to android. is a little laggy, the web browser is not even closer to the browser in iOS (i dont really care about flash) and the famous widgets of android are just crap, the so called super customization is not more that a bunch of ugly widgets on the screen that just make the phone looks "dirty" , windows phone gave a much better and elegant solution for widgets.
everyone is always hating on apple here, and there are some reasons to hate apple, i agree, but for the most part the iphone has been ahead of android phones since always.
there, i said it!
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Try being a dev and trailblazing and NOT bricking a phone. So next time be more careful what you say you are not talking to a bunch of noobs here. Your dev team is also here reading an helping...
You are about to be attacked alot worse than this by others so just be prepared!
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Try being a dev and trailblazing and NOT bricking a phone. So next time be more careful what you say you are not talking to a bunch of noobs here. Your dev team is also here reading an helping...
You are about to be attacked alot worse than this by others so just be prepared!
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my comment it is not about the devs here, it is about an OS. i really don't understand your reply. i really appreciate the work of the android communities for trying to make the user experience on adroid better so if you misunderstood what i said, it was nothing against devs.
I don't do any dev work because I don't have time to learn, hold a full time job in a completely unrelated field, and raise my 18 month old daughter. I'm on my third A2, both previous ones had factory issues(refurbs through insurance replacement). The phone does have issues, but anyway, nice score on the onex and enjoy!
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Congrats on the sweet upgrade. Jealous....
I had a similar issue with my HTC Vivid. In my case it was a software flaw that when you get into an edge area it trys to hit HSPA+. Like you they didn't offer me anything. I hit an AT&T Corporate store. The day I hit this store a district manager was there. At no point did I get mad just voiced my displeasure. They did me one better by allowing me to take any phone so I took the Note. I passed on S3 even. Given my HTC issues I wasn't taking the One X.
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dont forget the american One X is only dual core afaik
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yeah I got all excited for a second thinking it was Quad core. Even still, it's a nice upgrade that I don't have to pay a penny for and that doesn't extend my contract.
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dont forget the american One X is only dual core afaik
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I find hard to believe the histories of this people saying that they are going for their 4, 5 or even 6 device and all of them gave them problems, i think they just dont understand that android is a very unstable OS and if they install a lot of apps from the play store (a lot of them crash sometimes) and also are trying to install custom roms and other stuff it is obvious they are gonna get some kind of random reboot or any other issue, but that does not mean that the phone itself is bad.
now some people may kill me for saying this, but i think atleast untill gingerbread, android is far away from iOS (i dont know about ICS), say all you want that apple dont let you do this and that, but iOS is just a great OS, even from its first version was as smooth as "project butter" in jelly bean or even more. before i had my atrix i just had a "regular phone" and an ipod touch 4g, its been hard to get used to android. is a little laggy, the web browser is not even closer to the browser in iOS (i dont really care about flash) and the famous widgets of android are just crap, the so called super customization is not more that a bunch of ugly widgets on the screen that just make the phone looks "dirty" , windows phone gave a much better and elegant solution for widgets.
everyone is always hating on apple here, and there are some reasons to hate apple, i agree, but for the most part the iphone has been ahead of android phones since always.
there, i said it!
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My first A2 died less than a month after I got it. It flat out died, no power no boot up. Nothing. I took it back to best buy.
My 2nd A2 developed an issue after 4 months of use where any audio from the external speaker would distort worse and worse during use (I use my phone as a GPS unit. I'm new to Seattle.) and then eventually cut out entirely. I work nights and one night it did this to me on the way home. I had to detour from my usual route home due to massive construction. I didn't notice that the GPS had stopped talking until I was 7 miles past my exit.
My 3rd A2 had almost no WiFi connectivity. I could be sitting feet from my router and it would register almost no connectivity. I verified this with a WiFi analyzer, WiFiFoFum and speedtest.net.
My 4th A2 (this one) is starting to have the same audio distortion and is constantly rebooting. Not force close but a hard restart. AT&T sent me a battery first but the problem continues.
The Android OS is NOT an unstable OS, and for even suggesting that you've lost all credibility. I've played with custom Roms since my PocketPC days and I know when to screw with them and when not to. After my 2nd A2 I stopped with all of that except for rooting so I could install a few apps that require it. With my last A2 I've been COMPLETELY stock, not even a root to make sure that if there was another problem it was with the phone and not something I've done.
I have an iPhone for work and my A2 for personal use. Each phone is different but saying one OS is better than another is ignorant. They are tools that do different things, saying one is better than another is like saying that a wrench is a better tool than a hammer without giving the context for what you are using it for.
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My first A2 died less than a month after I got it. It flat out died, no power no boot up. Nothing. I took it back to best buy.
My 2nd A2 developed an issue after 4 months of use where any audio from the external speaker would distort worse and worse during use (I use my phone as a GPS unit. I'm new to Seattle.) and then eventually cut out entirely. I work nights and one night it did this to me on the way home. I had to detour from my usual route home due to massive construction. I didn't notice that the GPS had stopped talking until I was 7 miles past my exit.
My 3rd A2 had almost no WiFi connectivity. I could be sitting feet from my router and it would register almost no connectivity. I verified this with a WiFi analyzer, WiFiFoFum and speedtest.net.
My 4th A2 (this one) is starting to have the same audio distortion and is constantly rebooting. Not force close but a hard restart. AT&T sent me a battery first but the problem continues.
The Android OS is NOT an unstable OS, and for even suggesting that you've lost all credibility. I've played with custom Roms since my PocketPC days and I know when to screw with them and when not to. After my 2nd A2 I stopped with all of that except for rooting so I could install a few apps that require it. With my last A2 I've been COMPLETELY stock, not even a root to make sure that if there was another problem it was with the phone and not something I've done.
I have an iPhone for work and my A2 for personal use. Each phone is different but saying one OS is better than another is ignorant. They are tools that do different things, saying one is better than another is like saying that a wrench is a better tool than a hammer without giving the context for what you are using it for.
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but if you use your wrench as a hammer it's the best of both worlds.
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My first A2 died less than a month after I got it. It flat out died, no power no boot up. Nothing. I took it back to best buy.
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Water damage, or bad quality chinese soldering work. Or maybe you cooked it(see last paragraph).
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My 2nd A2 developed an issue after 4 months of use where any audio from the external speaker would distort worse and worse during use (I use my phone as a GPS unit. I'm new to Seattle.) and then eventually cut out entirely.
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Flat out busted your speaker membrane, if you cant hear it near 70% volume, just plug it in your car audio. Wouldn't be surprised to hear you had your car radio on, and the you had the 0.1w phone speaker competing with it.
If you've ever seen a proper gps unit, take note of the size of the speaker on it, its massive compared to the one on your phone.
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My 3rd A2 had almost no WiFi connectivity. I could be sitting feet from my router and it would register almost no connectivity. I verified this with a WiFi analyzer, WiFiFoFum and speedtest.net.
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Your phone's antenna wasn't plugged in properly. It was probably a refurb(but not necessarily), the shoulder of your antenna plug got popped out of place when they put the case back. Sloppy work from the (refurb) facility - wasn't tested properly.
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My 4th A2 (this one) is starting to have the same audio distortion and is constantly rebooting. Not force close but a hard restart. AT&T sent me a battery first but the problem continues.
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You didnt learn from your mistake last time - I don't blame you, you didnt know what happened - and busted the speaker again. Keep in mind some apps like the gps(or roms like sc) one can have the volume boosted, just because the max has been put there, doesnt mean you should run it near it. The bass boost options dont do it alot of good either, it puts a huge extra strain on it and I doubt there's at least a software crossover in the thing.
About the reboots, could be anything, for example, if you live in a hot area, it can easily happen that your phone overheated while installed on your windshield.
You know there's a saying, if you're always clear by means of yield(give way) signs, but get into 10 car accidents a year, you're probably still doing something wrong.
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My first A2 died less than a month after I got it. It flat out died, no power no boot up. Nothing. I took it back to best buy.
My 2nd A2 developed an issue after 4 months of use where any audio from the external speaker would distort worse and worse during use (I use my phone as a GPS unit. I'm new to Seattle.) and then eventually cut out entirely. I work nights and one night it did this to me on the way home. I had to detour from my usual route home due to massive construction. I didn't notice that the GPS had stopped talking until I was 7 miles past my exit.
My 3rd A2 had almost no WiFi connectivity. I could be sitting feet from my router and it would register almost no connectivity. I verified this with a WiFi analyzer, WiFiFoFum and speedtest.net.
My 4th A2 (this one) is starting to have the same audio distortion and is constantly rebooting. Not force close but a hard restart. AT&T sent me a battery first but the problem continues.
The Android OS is NOT an unstable OS, and for even suggesting that you've lost all credibility. I've played with custom Roms since my PocketPC days and I know when to screw with them and when not to. After my 2nd A2 I stopped with all of that except for rooting so I could install a few apps that require it. With my last A2 I've been COMPLETELY stock, not even a root to make sure that if there was another problem it was with the phone and not something I've done.
I have an iPhone for work and my A2 for personal use. Each phone is different but saying one OS is better than another is ignorant. They are tools that do different things, saying one is better than another is like saying that a wrench is a better tool than a hammer without giving the context for what you are using it for.
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the audio distortion seems to be a relatively known issue with the atrix 2, and most of the issues you name here seems to be software related rather than hardware.
and yes, android it is unstable compared to iOS, i have not tried Windws phone enough time to give an opinion.. in this few weeks with android i've had more crashes with apps and little issues than i had with iOS in months.
maybe the kernel itself doesn't fully crash, it is linux after all, but i repeat atleast untill gingerbread (i have not tried ICS or jelly bean yet) android has a lot to improve.
and i do not agree that "they are tools that do different things" , they are basically smarthphones that do the same things in different ways and yes, i can find one better than the other, it is a PERSONAL OPINION after all.
I've been running LiquidSmooth 3.2 (4.4.4) practically since I got the phone nearly a year ago. The last few months it's been getting henky; occasional random reboots, particularly when playing games, plus sometimes games would crash or simply freeze. Angry Birds 2 (crashes, restarts), Assassin's Creed Pirates (freezes), Kill Shot (crashes), etc. I've been meaning to try a 5.1 ROM, but have been lazy about it.
Then sometime between going to bed last night and waking up this morning, something happened. No apps were updated (I have that turned off). But it rebooted, and my wallpaper reverted to the LiquidSmooth stock wallpaper. It works fine until the screen locks, and it won't wake up again. The capactive keys light up (but don't vibrate like they should), but the screen doesn't respond. After the screen times out, sometimes I hear the "click" of it locking (I have the lock timeout set to 5 seconds) over and over and over. This in itself is odd, because it didn't make that click before (I guess I disabled that). The only way I can do anything is to reboot it and keep the screen on. And when I reboot, the wallpaper reverts, yet everything else (icons, widgets) remains as it was. I'm completely baffled, because, like I said, I did nothing other than turn the screen off and go to bed, and when I woke up, it was doing this crap.
So I sad "#$%@" it", I'll back everything up and try BlissPop 5.1.1. Downloaded this plus GApps. I go into TWRP (2.8.7.0), wipe everything but internal storage, try installing BlissPop, and it fails. I happen to have an older version, and that fails too. The only thing that flashes is LS 3.2, and after flashing that, it has all my apps like it did before, but Play Services continually crashes.
I'm not a novice to flashing. I tried upwards of 30 different ROMs on my Nexus 4. and never ran into this problem. However, these were all 4.4.4 ROMs (although Titanium back-ups originated from a 4.2.2 device), as is the LS version I've been using on my OnePlus One. Is there something I'm missing/not doing going from KK to LP? Do I need to revert to stock, update to official OTA, then install my chosen 5.1 ROM?
As I'm typing this, I've restored the TWRP back-up I did before trying this other stuff, and now the screen keeps showing the LS wallpaper (off-centered) and then the homescreen to the left (2 out of 5), and back and forth and back and forth, not responding to touch.
W T F ?
OK, I see now that there indeed is a firmware change needed to go from KK to LP. Not gonna try it tonight - too drunk for that. I'm off work Wednesday and Thursday, so I'll give it a try then. Come to think of it, I should try the official CM12s too, to see if the crashes/freezes happen, in which case it might be a hardware issue and I'll have to send it back. Meanwhile I've got LiquidSmooth up and running again. Games still crash though, and irritatingly, the Play Store crashes every time I try to type in a search (but not if I use voice).
I still would like to know WTF happened in the first place, but I suspect I'll never know.
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OK, I see now that there indeed is a firmware change needed to go from KK to LP. Not gonna try it tonight - too drunk for that. I'm off work Wednesday and Thursday, so I'll give it a try then. Come to think of it, I should try the official CM12s too, to see if the crashes/freezes happen, in which case it might be a hardware issue and I'll have to send it back. Meanwhile I've got LiquidSmooth up and running again. Games still crash though, and irritatingly, the Play Store crashes every time I try to type in a search (but not if I use voice).
I still would like to know WTF happened in the first place, but I suspect I'll never know.
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If you wanna flash firmware using twrp you'll need to downgrade to 2.8.6.0 it's the only one that works without issues. Cos12.1 is a good choice but don't use the flash-all script (in fastboot) without backing up your phone, you'll end up wiping everything. Unless you're encrypted there's no need to use 2.8.7.0
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Renosh said:
If you wanna flash firmware using twrp you'll need to downgrade to 2.8.6.0 it's the only one that works without issues. Cos12.1 is a good choice but don't use the flash-all script (in fastboot) without backing up your phone, you'll end up wiping everything. Unless you're encrypted there's no need to use 2.8.7.0
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Thank you. Perhaps that's why the "update.zip" batch restore I created in Titanium wouldn't flash.
I admit I'm no expert with the OPO. When I got it I flashed LiquidSmooth and never looked back, so I'm out of date and undereducated. I was planning on reading everything and getting caught up in the near future, since as soon as I've got the cash I'm picking up a Nexus 6 ($300 for 64gb on Amazon right now) and I was going to play around with LP/MM ROMs on my OPO, but then this crap happened ahead of schedule. Kinda ridiculous that a few years ago I was hesitant to get a smartphone because they were so "huge", and now my OPO isn't big enough anymore.
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Thank you. Perhaps that's why the "update.zip" batch restore I created in Titanium wouldn't flash.
I admit I'm no expert with the OPO. When I got it I flashed LiquidSmooth and never looked back, so I'm out of date and undereducated. I was planning on reading everything and getting caught up in the near future, since as soon as I've got the cash I'm picking up a Nexus 6 ($300 for 64gb on Amazon right now) and I was going to play around with LP/MM ROMs on my OPO, but then this crap happened ahead of schedule. Kinda ridiculous that a few years ago I was hesitant to get a smartphone because they were so "huge", and now my OPO isn't big enough anymore.
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I was also considering getting a Nexus 6 some time ago but it isn't a big enough bump to justify switching when I could just keep using the OPO and end year wait for SD820 Nexus. TWRP is a pain for a lot of users and they experience a whole host of issues that they can't seem to understand, such as several in this section titled no sim/no network and sometimes proximity sensor issues are related to not being able to flash firmware while on TWRP 2.8.7.0. You're still on 4.4 so you're even more clueless ?. Only two things you need to be aware of Lollipop uses a new firmware (baseband 241) and latest CM13 uses a different firmware too (c7-00011)
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I was also considering getting a Nexus 6 some time ago but it isn't a big enough bump to justify switching when I could just keep using the OPO and end year wait for SD820 Nexus.
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I was so excited with the Nexus 6 was coming out...until they announced the price, so I got the OnePlus One. Now the the price is reasonable (a freaking bargain, IMO) at $250/300 brand new, I want to get one and maybe sell my OPO. I read eBooks during downtime at work and that extra bit of screen makes a huge difference (it did when I had a Note 3, and the Nexus 6 is even bigger), plus I read with white text and black background will work great with AMOLED. I also like playing some games, and the big screen and front-facing speakers will be perfect for that. Sure, the latest and greatest would be nice, but I can't afford that. My dream phone would be the rumored Xperia Z5 Ultra, but it'll likely cost $800-900.
You're still on 4.4 so you're even more clueless.
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Hey, I like KitKat! Still running KK on my S4 and Nexus 4. I had zero interest in 5.0, but now that the 5.1 ROMs are fleshed out, it's time for something new.
Only two things you need to be aware of Lollipop uses a new firmware (baseband 241) and latest CM13 uses a different firmware too (c7-00011)
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Does that apply to all Marshmallow ROMs or just CM/CM based ones?
Again, thanks for your help, and putting up with me.
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I was so excited with the Nexus 6 was coming out...until they announced the price, so I got the OnePlus One. Now the the price is reasonable (a freaking bargain, IMO) at $250/300 brand new, I want to get one and maybe sell my OPO. I read eBooks during downtime at work and that extra bit of screen makes a huge difference (it did when I had a Note 3, and the Nexus 6 is even bigger), plus I read with white text and black background will work great with AMOLED. I also like playing some games, and the big screen and front-facing speakers will be perfect for that. Sure, the latest and greatest would be nice, but I can't afford that. My dream phone would be the rumored Xperia Z5 Ultra, but it'll likely cost $800-900.
Hey, I like KitKat![emoji14] Still running KK on my S4 and Nexus 4. I had zero interest in 5.0, but now that the 5.1 ROMs are fleshed out, it's time for something new.
Does that apply to all Marshmallow ROMs or just CM/CM based ones?
Again, thanks for your help, and putting up with me.
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Haven't heard of a Z5 Ultra but Sony is not my taste. I'll hold out for the Nexus at the end of this year and I'll probably buy it in 2017 (depends on finances) or get a 6P at bargain prices. I've also heard the Nexus 6 isn't great in battery life department so custom kernel will be a must
5.1.1 ROMs are rock stable right now so I'd suggest them over Marshmallow (numerous bugs at the moment but getting better every day).
The new modem is only if you want to run CM based ROMs which are the majority so you'd have to flash latest CM13 nightly first before flashing any other. If you use Omni or any ROM based off their source like Slimsaber or SAOSP etc they work with Lollipop firmware.
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There have been rumors of a new Z Ultra for years ever since the first (and only) one. 6.44" screen, etc. I plan on getting a new tablet soon as well (Tab S 8.4 or Nexus Shield K1), but if they ever came out with a new Z Ultra (maybe they're waiting for the SD820), it'd be big enough to replace a tablet, yet still fit in my pocket. Maybe the Nexus 6 will suffice on its own.
Reviews I've read of the Nexus 6 say it has great battery life, but those are with scripts and can only simulate real-life usage. I'm not worried. Reading at work drains my batter the most, and with a white-on-black theme and AMOLED screen, I should be fine. I usually only play games at home, when it's plugged in anyway. Of course, I'll be playing around with custom kernels anyway. I never really bothered with them on my OPO (it already has smooth performance and great battery life), but probably will once I try 5.1 ROMs.
We're getting OT here, but it's my thread, so I can if I want!