Hello folks,
What is the benefit of rooting a locked bootloader phone? If I am understanding it correctly, if my phone is locked that means I cannot install custom ROM/Kernel or is that assumption wrong? FYI - According to my research my phone bootloader cannot be unlocked (thanks ROGERS!...)
I want to know to determine if I should use the up-to-date firmware or downgrade my firmware and root it.
thanks!
Vicente
with root on locked bootloader phone, you can save drm keys to relock in a future in case you want.
If you only want to use some apps that need root (like Titanium, Greenify, SoftKeyz...) but want to stay in stock.
and you understands correctly, if you have a locked phone, you CAN'T flash custom rom or kernel (some phones have roms to locked bootloaders, but not this case....)
If you have locked bootloader you CAN use stock BASED custom roms. You can't use non stock based roms like cm12 etc. And also custom kernels can't be used like said before. Every rom should contain information if it's usable for locked bootloader or not in the OP
Backing up TA is not even useful for you since your bootloader can't be unlocked.
Root is used only for root apps like rootexplorer, titanium backup, xposed etc.
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I am just jumping into the android moding world, and I just can't seem to find clarification on a particular issue. It seems that most phones are rootable but many have a locked bootloader. From what I can glean through reading many posts here and searching the web, the geekish options that you give up on a phone with a locked bootloader is the ability to flash the ROM. However, this is contradicted by examples here on this site of ROMs for phones with locked bootloaders. (Moto Atrix for example.) Is it that custom ROMs can only go so far with rooting alone, like the inability to replace the kernel? What exactly do you give up by only achieving root with a locked bootloader vs a rooted phone with an unlocked bootloader? Is it ROM related at all?
notmuchpastnothing said:
I am just jumping into the android moding world, and I just can't seem to find clarification on a particular issue. It seems that most phones are rootable but many have a locked bootloader. From what I can glean through reading many posts here and searching the web, the geekish options that you give up on a phone with a locked bootloader is the ability to flash the ROM. However, this is contradicted by examples here on this site of ROMs for phones with locked bootloaders. (Moto Atrix for example.) Is it that custom ROMs can only go so far with rooting alone, like the inability to replace the kernel? What exactly do you give up by only achieving root with a locked bootloader vs a rooted phone with an unlocked bootloader? Is it ROM related at all?
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You can't flash a custom rom without root. Root is needed to write to system partition etc.
But you can get root without a custom rom.
A locked bootloader means you will have to stay on stock rom. Means no custom kernels, no custom firmware.
Someone correct me if im wrong.
still confused
As mentioned there seem to be custom ROMs for for phones with a locked bootloader. The new Motorola Atrix is an example. While there is complaining that the bootloader is locked there are custom ROMs (2, I believe, so far) available from members of this forum. What is it that can't be done with a locked bootloader?
I'm still confused, but I appreciate the reply.
I have a GSM Nexus S (i9023) with stock ICS that I rooted without unlocking the bootloader (I used this excellent script).
After installing several root apps, I'm now looking at various kernels and I'm tempted to try and experiment a bit (interested in particular in trying Deep Idle), but I'm not familiar with kernels at all.
I had a look at many posts but could not figure out if I can install kernels on a rooted phone without touching the bootloader (basically I would like to maintain the current configuration with locked bootloader).
Any views if this can be done?
Thx in advance
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Hello,
Pardon the noobness... Even when I have been working with phones and tablets for a while, I have to ask now... what is the difference between Unlocking and Rooting the TF700 when it comes to features, ROM flashing, etc?
Thanks!
Mordred69 said:
Pardon the noobness... Even when I have been working with phones and tablets for a while, I have to ask now... what is the difference between Unlocking and Rooting the TF700 when it comes to features, ROM flashing, etc?
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I'm sure this is in some FAQ... but unlocking voids your warranty and allows you to install custom kernels and recoveries (and custom ROMs). With a custom recovery you can also always root your ROM.
Rooting without unlocking requires some exploitable bug (currently, Motochopper works) and then allows you to modify the system partition and direct access to all files on your device, including apps and app data (e.g. for backup).
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I'm sure this is in some FAQ... but unlocking voids your warranty and allows you to install custom kernels and recoveries (and custom ROMs). With a custom recovery you can also always root your ROM.
Rooting without unlocking requires some exploitable bug (currently, Motochopper works) and then allows you to modify the system partition and direct access to all files on your device, including apps and app data (e.g. for backup).
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Awesome! While I do know unlocking voids the warranty and what a custom recovery is for, you've answered my query when you explained about exploit and compared limitations and features.
Many thanks!
Hello. What's the easiest way to backup everything (and I mean everything, including detailed app data) before unlocking my bootloader? I want to flash a custom kernel with minimum modifications to anything else, and obviously I want to take a backup of everything before I lose them with the unlock process, but I haven't been able to find a way to do so on a stock ROM that's not even rooted.
Or is there a way to root my phone before I unlock it?
I've never had a OnePlus device before, so here I am, asking dumb questions. :silly:
Also, one more question (in three parts, sorry!): since some of the newer apps, especially banking apps, have started using stricter safety procedures, they can detect an unlocked (or even merely rooted) device, and so they don't work. 1) Is there any way I can use a custom kernel on a locked (or relocked) bootloader? 2) Is it possible to use a custom kernel on an unlocked phone that's not rooted? 3) If neither of the two is possible, how can I prevent said apps from detecting my unlocked bootloader and rooted phone?
Thank you very much in advance for taking the time to answer all of my questions.
My friend changed my custom rom to CyanogenMod and now I am deciding to change the custom rom again. Can someone help me about changing it. I only have few knowlegde about it. Do I need to unlock the bootloader again or not? From my recent research some they that if your device was rooted there's no need to unlocking bootloader.
P.s Can anyone suggest a new custom rom for my device Samsung Galaxy Avant 4.4.2. As of now it was on CyanogenMod11 custom Rom?
Rooting Android OS means to add a functionality called su to it, whereas unlocking device's bootloader means to give you complete autonomy over your Android device. It will trigger a factory reset that will erase all of your data. It will also allow you to install a custom ROM on your device. Unfortunately, it can also compromise the security of your phone and/or can brick your phone making it impossible to turn on.
To unlock a device's bootloader it's NOT needed that Android OS got rooted before.
so it means that I can change the custom rom without unlocking bootloader because my device is ROOTED?
Exactly the opposite is the case: carefully read posts.