Rooted and Unlocked... Explain please? - Asus Transformer TF700

Hello,
Pardon the noobness... Even when I have been working with phones and tablets for a while, I have to ask now... what is the difference between Unlocking and Rooting the TF700 when it comes to features, ROM flashing, etc?
Thanks!

Mordred69 said:
Pardon the noobness... Even when I have been working with phones and tablets for a while, I have to ask now... what is the difference between Unlocking and Rooting the TF700 when it comes to features, ROM flashing, etc?
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I'm sure this is in some FAQ... but unlocking voids your warranty and allows you to install custom kernels and recoveries (and custom ROMs). With a custom recovery you can also always root your ROM.
Rooting without unlocking requires some exploitable bug (currently, Motochopper works) and then allows you to modify the system partition and direct access to all files on your device, including apps and app data (e.g. for backup).

_that said:
I'm sure this is in some FAQ... but unlocking voids your warranty and allows you to install custom kernels and recoveries (and custom ROMs). With a custom recovery you can also always root your ROM.
Rooting without unlocking requires some exploitable bug (currently, Motochopper works) and then allows you to modify the system partition and direct access to all files on your device, including apps and app data (e.g. for backup).
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Awesome! While I do know unlocking voids the warranty and what a custom recovery is for, you've answered my query when you explained about exploit and compared limitations and features.
Many thanks!

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[Q] Is it possible to unroot or un-unlock the device?

From what I have read, the answer is no but I have some more questions so I guess Id ask anyway.
Transformer was very expensive and I have more than a year of warranty left. On the other hand I would very much like some of the features that require root. What action is possible to roll back? Unlocking, rooting or flashing a custom rom? I need to unlock the device before I can root it right?
I would use a number of features that rooting allows, but my main desire is to be able to use keyboard dock and mouse or even a gamepad as game controllers. Only program that can do that (joy2touch) requires root. But if I had root I guess I would try Cyanogenmod too because I can only see people praising it for how greatly it improves experience.
Also, there is lots of information around here but its still not dumb enough for someone who just wants to root a device but has no idea where to start (its pretty confusing). So sorry in advance for possibly asking obvious questions.
3DeX said:
From what I have read, the answer is no but I have some more questions so I guess Id ask anyway.
Transformer was very expensive and I have more than a year of warranty left. On the other hand I would very much like some of the features that require root. What action is possible to roll back? Unlocking, rooting or flashing a custom rom? I need to unlock the device before I can root it right?
I would use a number of features that rooting allows, but my main desire is to be able to use keyboard dock and mouse or even a gamepad as game controllers. Only program that can do that (joy2touch) requires root. But if I had root I guess I would try Cyanogenmod too because I can only see people praising it for how greatly it improves experience.
Also, there is lots of information around here but its still not dumb enough for someone who just wants to root a device but has no idea where to start (its pretty confusing). So sorry in advance for possibly asking obvious questions.
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If you just want root to use joy2touch, then your warranty is still good. If you unlock your device, then your warranty is voided... you can find more information about unlock and root here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1833212
Good luck..:fingers-crossed:
Yes but, there is rooting for either unlocked devices or devices running ICS or lower. And whatever rooting for JB I found (im running newest OTA) is only for unlocked devices as well. As I understand it, rooting does not void the warranty but unlocking does? Does that mean im screwed? I dont even know the difference between unlocking and rooting...
3DeX said:
Yes but, there is rooting for either unlocked devices or devices running ICS or lower. And whatever rooting for JB I found (im running newest OTA) is only for unlocked devices as well. As I understand it, rooting does not void the warranty but unlocking does? Does that mean im screwed? I dont even know the difference between unlocking and rooting...
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A rooting is allowed you to access your system files so you can modify them as will. A unlocking is allowed you to install custom rom and recovery. Someone else may have a better explaination for you.
No, you still can root your device if you have a bootloader .8 or earlier. If you have the latest bootloader, you can downgrade and root it..
LetMeKnow said:
No, you still can root your device if you have a bootloader .8 or earlier. If you have the latest bootloader, you can downgrade and root it..
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Rooting exploits a bug in the kernel, not in the bootloader, so it's the ROM/kernel build 10.6.1.14.8, not the bootloader build. But it's always the same on locked devices anyway.
Uhm... you are confusing me even more. So is there a rooting guide that doesnt involve unlocking, can be reverted or doesnt void warranty, and works with newest stock OTA?
To my knowledge I dont have any kind of bootloader.
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Rooting exploits a bug in the kernel, not in the bootloader, so it's the ROM/kernel build 10.6.1.14.8, not the bootloader build. But it's always the same on locked devices anyway.
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Thanks _that. What I meant is the latest firmware from Asus.
@3DeX
1. Download the Asus firmware 10.6.1.14.8
2. Backup your personal data and everything that you like to keep to your computer or your external SD.
3. Make sure that your battery is full so it is not shutdown during the installing process..
4. Unzip it once because there is another zip file insde it.
5. Copy the second zip file to the root directory of your internal SD.
6. Reboot your tablet.
7. After reboot, you will see the downgrade notification in the lower right corner.
8. Click on the downgrade notification and follow the instructions.
9. During the installing process, Do not try to turn it off. It will reboot by itself when the installation is completed. It may take 2 to 3 minutes..
10. Use motochopper to root your device.
Good luck..

[Q] Installing Xposed Framework

I have the D6603 model, running with Sony's latest software version of Kitkat. I have not rooted my phone for fear of losing the phone's camera quality, however I've read that this was recently fixed.
How can I root my phone and install Xposed on it? I see lots of guides for installing roms, however I'm not sure which guide out there is safe to follow for someone who's new to rooting phones. I don't want a custom rom on my phone, I just want Xposed available, and don't want to ruin the camera.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3017056
Just follow the instructions carefully. If you don't understand something Google it or post it here.
The camera quality problem is due to DRM keys (they are like license keys), but they only get lost if you unlock your bootloader, not by rooting, installing a recovery or flashing stock based ROMs.
There is a difference between rooting your device and unlocking the bootloader. Rooting your device will NOT affect your DRM keys, which is the cause for losing camera quality (among other things).
There's plenty of guides providing step-by-step instructions explaining how to root the Z3 without unlocking the bootloader (keeping the DRM keys and your camera, safe).
Installing XPosed framework only requires root.
Hobbes2099 said:
There is a difference between rooting your device and unlocking the bootloader. Rooting your device will NOT affect your DRM keys, which is the cause for losing camera quality (among other things).
There's plenty of guides providing step-by-step instructions explaining how to root the Z3 without unlocking the bootloader (keeping the DRM keys and your camera, safe).
Installing XPosed framework only requires root.
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Why did you reply on this thread? I already answered the OP's questions (even provided a link, you didn't).
This thread is nearly 10 days old and the OP didn't reply to my answer so there's no necessity for you to do this ....
The OP has (or had) root and unlocking the bootloader mixed up. We've all been there, unsure about specific topics, hesitant about what to do.
Why? What's the big deal?

What are the pros and cons of rooting my phone?

Title says it all.
Sent from my XT1028
The Blackest Knight said:
Title says it all.
Sent from my XT1028
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Pros
- You get to remove bloatware that were preinstalled
- try out custom roms (if youre into that)
Cons
- Unlocking bootloader (rooting) will delete ALL your data. Its so annoying to reinstall apps tbh.
Thats all to it.
So is losing my data all that there is?
Sent from my XT1028
From what I have read, unlocking your bootloader does not automatically give you root access and rooting does not automatically unlock your bootloader.
Could you expand on this?
PS. I'm new here and don't know much about rooting phones.
Unlocking the bootloader will allow you to install "non-authorized" software such a custom recoveries (CWM, TWRP), custom kernels, and ROMs.
Rooting will give you access to system files and allow you to run programs that require the equivalent of "administrative" access.
So it is a lot like jailbreaking an iOS device?
Kind of.

[Q] Quick Question for Quick Answer

Hello folks,
What is the benefit of rooting a locked bootloader phone? If I am understanding it correctly, if my phone is locked that means I cannot install custom ROM/Kernel or is that assumption wrong? FYI - According to my research my phone bootloader cannot be unlocked (thanks ROGERS!...)
I want to know to determine if I should use the up-to-date firmware or downgrade my firmware and root it.
thanks!
Vicente
with root on locked bootloader phone, you can save drm keys to relock in a future in case you want.
If you only want to use some apps that need root (like Titanium, Greenify, SoftKeyz...) but want to stay in stock.
and you understands correctly, if you have a locked phone, you CAN'T flash custom rom or kernel (some phones have roms to locked bootloaders, but not this case....)
If you have locked bootloader you CAN use stock BASED custom roms. You can't use non stock based roms like cm12 etc. And also custom kernels can't be used like said before. Every rom should contain information if it's usable for locked bootloader or not in the OP
Backing up TA is not even useful for you since your bootloader can't be unlocked.
Root is used only for root apps like rootexplorer, titanium backup, xposed etc.

[Q] Backup before unlocking bootloader? Custom kernel on locked bootloader?

Hello. What's the easiest way to backup everything (and I mean everything, including detailed app data) before unlocking my bootloader? I want to flash a custom kernel with minimum modifications to anything else, and obviously I want to take a backup of everything before I lose them with the unlock process, but I haven't been able to find a way to do so on a stock ROM that's not even rooted.
Or is there a way to root my phone before I unlock it?
I've never had a OnePlus device before, so here I am, asking dumb questions. :silly:
Also, one more question (in three parts, sorry!): since some of the newer apps, especially banking apps, have started using stricter safety procedures, they can detect an unlocked (or even merely rooted) device, and so they don't work. 1) Is there any way I can use a custom kernel on a locked (or relocked) bootloader? 2) Is it possible to use a custom kernel on an unlocked phone that's not rooted? 3) If neither of the two is possible, how can I prevent said apps from detecting my unlocked bootloader and rooted phone?
Thank you very much in advance for taking the time to answer all of my questions.

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