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Hello all,
I'm not a developer, but I am a music producer. If any of you devs want custom ringtones for your ROMs just let me know and I'll be happy to help out! You guys rock.
I would love to see some actual good music turned into ringtones. Nothing obnoxious but something that definetly loud and noticeable. Biggest downisde ive always seen is most ringtones are to soft and cant be heard even with the volume up or they sound distorted.
asadjewonxmas said:
I would love to see some actual good music turned into ringtones. Nothing obnoxious but something that definetly loud and noticeable. Biggest downisde ive always seen is most ringtones are to soft and cant be heard even with the volume up or they sound distorted.
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That's probably to avoid clipping and speaker damage. I think some cell phones also have limiters on them to cap the output no matter how loud the audio file is. This is especially noticeable on the iPhone.
jklitten said:
That's probably to avoid clipping and speaker damage. I think some cell phones also have limiters on them to cap the output no matter how loud the audio file is. This is especially noticeable on the iPhone.
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Just to be fair... the iPhone speaker sucks. Flat out.
The volume limiters for the speaker are in the kernel. The thing is that it's not a dynamic limiter, so it can't adjust the gain for quiet ringtones. The ringtones have to have a decent gain to begin with.
XGX5309 said:
Just to be fair... the iPhone speaker sucks. Flat out.
The volume limiters for the speaker are in the kernel. The thing is that it's not a dynamic limiter, so it can't adjust the gain for quiet ringtones. The ringtones have to have a decent gain to begin with.
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True that. I tend to do some quick-and-dirty mastering for ringtones to bring them up to commercial volume.
I heard alot about nexus S sound with voodoo but is stock really supposed to be rather average? While the sound "quality" seems really good the volume levels are just not good enough. My bose headphones sound so weak compared to an iphone, what gives??
Even an HTC desire had higher volume. Is voodoo supposed to make it much louder? Why cant we have it without rooting?
Update: I just tried my headphones on an iphone and well it isnt as loud as I remember it was. Whats happened is that I got spoiled by the headphone amp in my PC soundcard and thus perceived the nexus sound to be really weak in comparison. I had not yet used my headphones on a phone since getting a soundcard.
Obviously I cant expect the nexus to beat my PC and it actually compares really well with the iphone 4. I am sorry guys I feel really stupid for making this topic.
Disappointed? Not in the very least. I'm actuall extremely pleased and actually very ****ing surprised of the quality... even without Voodoo enhancements.
I had a Desire before this and that had a very tinny and high-mid/high heavy focus. It was very unpleasant watching videos let alone listening to music.
When I first heard the Nexus s (stock gingerbread at that time) I was in awe. The sound was very clear and loud. It even appeared to produce unnaturally powerful and clear low frequencies for a speaker this size.
I think something is very wrong with your phone if you prefer the Desire's sound.
My 2¢.
Later edit: I just now realize you were actually complaining about the sound volume and not the quality, but still I can't say I find it quieter than the Desire.
However, you are right. Voodoo can boost the volume quite a bit.
Oh no you completely misunderstood, the speaker on the nexus S is really good and destroys the desire. I am talking about sound through full size headphones.
Perhaps you need a headphone amplifier.
With Voodoo, the sound quality is exceptional, but quality has nothing to do with volume. In fact, turning up the volume in the phone too far will have a negative impact on the sound quality (distortion).
There are a number of factors affecting the perceived volume of a pair of headphones. Driver efficiency and impedance are the main ones; some output devices are designed for headphones which require high voltage and others for current.
The Nexus S with Voodoo, in airplane mode, playing high quality FLAC media, plugged into an amplifier, sounds pretty darn good through my AKG K271 MKII cans. Also pretty stellar through Meyer PA.
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Oh no you completely misunderstood, the speaker on the nexus S is really good and destroys the desire. I am talking about sound through full size headphones.
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Yes, I missunderstood, thus my later edit.
And I agree with d-h. I'm only using a pair of sennheiser cx300 but I can never turn it all the way up (I even set the limit at 3dB, rather than 5dB). I keep the volume around 1/2 to 3/4 of the way and that's plenty loud... even in noisy environments.
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Yes, I missunderstood, thus my later edit.
And I agree with d-h. I'm only using a pair of sennheiser cx300 but I can never turn it all the way up (I even set the limit at 3dB, rather than 5dB). I keep the volume around 1/2 to 3/4 of the way and that's plenty loud... even in noisy environments.
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You have voodoo? What music player you use?
And as for headphone amplifier I never used one for other phones I mentioned. While sound quality has nothing to do with volume but without headphone amp, volume tends to be the biggest bottleneck on a smartphone. Since nexus S is hailed as one of the greatest smartphones sound wise I expect it to drive my bose headphones atleast as good as other phones.
This will take care of your sound/volume issues ...
Gambler_3 said:
You have voodoo? What music player you use?
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I use Google Music.
wmdunn said:
This will take care of your sound/volume issues ...
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I have poweramp 2.0, it can make things really loud but there is slight distortion on anything above the default level. I know my headphones can get ridiculously loud without distorting so it's the hardware limitation on the phone.
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I have poweramp 2.0, it can make things really loud but there is slight distortion on anything above the default level. I know my headphones can get ridiculously loud without distorting so it's the hardware limitation on the phone.
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I use Volume+ on my head phones all the time, and there is no distortion. If you don't want to try it, that's fine ... I was simply trying to help.
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I use Volume+ on my head phones all the time, and there is no distortion. If you don't want to try it, that's fine ... I was simply trying to help.
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I have downloaded it will try it for sure but was just saying.
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I have downloaded it will try it for sure but was just saying.
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Hope it works for you ... it has made a huge difference for me in all areas of device volume settings.
I just tried my headphones on an iphone and well it isnt as loud as I remember it was. Whats happened is that I got spoiled by the headphone amp in my PC soundcard and thus perceived the nexus sound to be really weak in comparison. I had not yet used my headphones on a phone since getting a soundcard.
Obviously I cant expect the nexus to beat my PC and it actually compares really well with the iphone 4. I am sorry guys I feel really stupid for making this topic.
hey peeps get ur facts right. loudness doesn't equate to quality. nexus s with voodoo is fine and awesome details better then iPhone. note. MOST HEADPHONES REQUIRE AN AMPLIFIER.
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I just tried my headphones on an iphone and well it isnt as loud as I remember it was. Whats happened is that I got spoiled by the headphone amp in my PC soundcard and thus perceived the nexus sound to be really weak in comparison. I had not yet used my headphones on a phone since getting a soundcard.
Obviously I cant expect the nexus to beat my PC and it actually compares really well with the iphone 4. I am sorry guys I feel really stupid for making this topic.
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It's all good, Bud ...
Why don't you just download voodoo?
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Yes the speaker volume is rubbish but the Samsung galaxy and Nexus S have the best audio hardware compared to any top phone out at the moment. They rock a really top spec Wolfson audio chip.
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Warren_Orange said:
Yes the speaker volume is rubbish but the Samsung galaxy and Nexus S have the best audio hardware compared to any top phone out at the moment. They rock a really top spec Wolfson audio chip.
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Does the Galaxy Nexus rock the same audio chip?
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While we are on this topic, I have voodoo installed for the color hack. What settings should I use for music? What do you guys use?
Nevermind, I just found out how to use the volume boost. I'm happy!
zgomot said:
Does the Galaxy Nexus rock the same audio chip?
Sent from my Nexus S
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The Galaxy Nexus has some Yamaha chip. Not nearly as good as the Wolfson in our NS, so it's not something to be really proud of - it's not shocking though. SGS and Nexus S are the two android phones with the best headphone output to date.
rocket999 said:
While we are on this topic, I have voodoo installed for the color hack. What settings should I use for music? What do you guys use?
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All of the settings in voodoo (aside from mono and bass boost) are there to enhance audio quality and processing. Feel free to turn on all features, just leave mono unticked and you can set bass boost to your preferred level of course. This shouldn't use noticeably more power or CPU usage either, if anything at all.
Hello!
As some of you knows it already the Z2 speakers are low out of the box and even only one speaker works when the phone ring.
Do you think the Z3 will be louder with tweaks as Phonearena review is saying it's not loud enough?
Btw does the new UI has a car app?
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Hello!
As some of you knows it already the Z2 speakers are low out of the box and even only one speaker works when the phone ring.
Do you think the Z3 will be louder with tweaks as Phonearena review is saying it's not loud enough?
Btw does the new UI has a car app?
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Hiya
Just got mine last night. The bottom speaker is the only speaker that plays when the phone rings, although it is quite loud. Texts seem quiet though. This would be better through both speakers though for sure.
Can't see a Car app on UK unlocked model.
Different with my Z3 (bought via Vodafone Germany): BOTH speakers are used for incoming call sounds; pretty decent volume.
Didn't notice a "car app"; there's Garmin navigation preinstalled - but the usual "try and NOT buy" kind. So just regard it as nonexistent, simply stick with Google Maps. And yes, Sony generously allows deinstalling Garmin navigation.
Speakers in general: Nice and clear sound, quite deep stereo effect, but a bit thin, could be louder, about the same volume as Samsung's S4.
Playing around with preamp settings does NOT help, just leads to distortions.
HORRIBLE volume via 3,5 mm connector - AS USAL, volume is FAR TOO LOW for powering anything else than that infamous earwax pullers (in-ear headphones).
For something positive: The sound via headphones connector is real fine, you won't be disappointed if it comes to audio fidelity.
this is probably done on purpose by design. sony probably figures if they enabled both speakers or made them louder it would be pretty rude when in public places.. something would agree with.. nothing more annoying than to be at a public place and hearing phones ringing at full volume . IMO these devices are already ring loud enough.. i keep mine at middle volume and is plenty loud. i think people that require louder should invest in hearing aids or perhaps clean their ears :laugh:
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this is probably done on purpose by design. sony probably figures if they enabled both speakers or made them louder it would be pretty rude when in public places.. something would agree with.. nothing more annoying than to be at a public place and hearing phones ringing at full volume . IMO these devices are already ring loud enough.. i keep mine at middle volume and is plenty loud. i think people that require louder should invest in hearing aids or perhaps clean their ears :laugh:
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Can't say limiting the ability of the phone to ring through both speakers is a design feature.
I'm going to keep looking to see if anyone sorts the sound coming out of one speaker as this is the culprit I think.
Edit: I actually think having both speakers playing would allow them to reduce the volume in both, allowing for less distortion and a nice sounding ringtone.
Im currently test driving the IPhone 6...yes don't bash me this is my first iPhone...I'll like to know if the speaker output on the Z3 is as loud as the iPhone 6?
I just own z3 I can tell speaker very low.I owned z1 z2 before. same kind **** Sony don't improve anything
shook187 said:
Im currently test driving the IPhone 6...yes don't bash me this is my first iPhone...I'll like to know if the speaker output on the Z3 is as loud as the iPhone 6?
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The iPhone 6 speaker is louder, but since it's always facing the wrong direction, the louder speaker doesn't always translate to more sound reaching your ears. Your hand often covers the speaker as you hold it as well.
It's plenty loud, maybe not as good as HTC M8 levels in terms of clarity at full volume but pretty close.
Speaker tests from GSMArena. Look for stats in a table in the middle of the page in each link.
http://m.gsmarena.com/apple_iphone_6-review-1141p7.php
http://m.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z3-review-1140p6.php
Proper etiquette aside (hint: don't use speakerphone while doing your "business" in a public bathroom), rate this thread to express how you think the Samsung Galaxy S8's speakerphone performs. A higher rating indicates that you love it: it's loud and it's clear.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Its loud and clear. Great sound. All stock and no root
Tiongkia said:
Its loud and clear. Great sound. All stock and no root
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Same for me... Perfect.
great and loud sound. idk why people complain that there are not front firing speaker. i mean you aint gonna watch movies on a phone...
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great and loud sound. idk why people complain that there are not front firing speaker. i mean you aint gonna watch movies on a phone...
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I watch a ton of movies on my phone ... adult and on kodi and no the speaker is not lour and crisp
Neuken69 said:
I watch a ton of movies on my phone ... adult and on kodi and no the speaker is not lour and crisp
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Get headphones or a bluetooth speaker for like 100bucks. You got an s8, dont tell me you dont have 100eur more to spend on something
The quality is good but honestly if it went a pinch louder then it would be perfect
speaker quality is par at best. obviously no improvements in the past 2 or 3 generations.
people have a hard time hearing me on speakerphone. speaker for me is just barely loud enough.
hopefully they will fix in coming updates.
Does anyone else get a laser beam sounding tone on high pitched sounds
The quality and loudness is not good enough on the speaker phone. Honestly, i have a lenovo vibe s1 costing $135, sounds better and louder. Sorry to say, i had to say this, as i was comparing the loudspeaker clarity with Huawei honor 6+ and lenovo vibe s1, both of these phones performed better than s8
I like having the front firing speakers since my finger sometimes covers the speaker when I hold the phone in landscape with one hand. With the bottom speaker, I have to kind of "cup" the speaker to "direct" the sound frontwards. The sound isn't bad, but I do prefer the front firing speakers for this reason.
On calls, with Verizon HD calling, it sounds amazing. With regular calls, it sounds pretty good usually, but if I'm outside, I often find myself selecting the "Turn on extra volume" option.
I'd have to say it sound a bit on the quiet side. Since it is very similar to my G4, I've already got use to it.
I traded my S5 in for an S8 and transferred my ring tones over from the S5 to the S8. Even at full volume on the S8 they are much quieter than the S5.
I love modem strike online and it sucks cause how you hold the phone it covers up the sound. Sucks. You can't 'cup' and play
My S7A is the loudest phone I have heard compared to all my friends and co-workers.
Speaker on the S8A is really that bad?
I got my S7A just befor the S8A became available, I'm considering dumping my S7A and getting the S8A.
Hmmm, maybe a major update might include a fix for the amplifier.
Could also be the location of the speaker on the S7A.......
I actually just had to send mine in due to the loudspeaker being all distorted sounding. Was really disappointed because I love this phone. I sent the phone in for warranty repair. I will reply with how it turned out.
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Does anyone else get a laser beam sounding tone on high pitched sounds
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Coming from a Moto X Pure, which had stereo front facing speakers, This was is the best way to describe it. It totally sounds like laser beam sounding tones and it drives me insane.
CyanYam said:
Coming from a Moto X Pure, which had stereo front facing speakers, This was is the best way to describe it. It totally sounds like laser beam sounding tones and it drives me insane.
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After having the phone for almost a year I've gotten used to it and barley notice it anymore
rickyiswhite said:
After having the phone for almost a year I've gotten used to it and barley notice it anymore
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I hope so. Got the phone off Ebay, and at first, thought it was a defect.
CyanYam said:
I hope so. Got the phone off Ebay, and at first, thought it was a defect.
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Yeah the S8 volume sucks.
How's the hradphone jack?
Good. It's seems it's almost as good as LG g8 but I haven't listened closely
I listened to it more closely since I am glad someone is interested in this. I can say it's slightly less clear than LG G8 and it's warmer. But my poco f2 is a new device so it might improve with time. But the difference is big enough for me to think it's not going to be as good as LG G8 even after burn in. Still not a big difference. BTW, I think my judgement is probably quite accurate as I am an audiophile. So far, I only compared them with UE18+. Anyways I think the point to take away is that as an audiophile, this is good enough for me not to use an external DAC on the go.
Thats great, if you think its atleast comparable, though not as good as an audiophile. LGs do have better audio output than most phones. Kinda hard to find good phones with headphone jacks these days. Im coming from mi 9t so I guess i'll be upgrading to the f2 pro. Thanks for your input!
I find the the headphone jack has a low output volume. Its decent but i dont get my headphones loud. I tried 16 ohm , 32 ohm, 64 ohm headphones, easy to drive in ears. not one of them is "loud". Does anyone face the same problem?
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when using Poweramp the Volume is high as expected. I wonder why Youtube and Spotify have such a low volume.
spychodelics said:
I find the the headphone jack has a low output volume. Its decent but i dont get my headphones loud. I tried 16 ohm , 32 ohm, 64 ohm headphones, easy to drive in ears. not one of them is "loud". Does anyone face the same problem?
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when using Poweramp the Volume is high as expected. I wonder why Youtube and Spotify have such a low volume.
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Because YouTube and Spotify are being shetheads. The audio always sounds more quiet that other apps for some strange reason.
Andrew Lin said:
BTW, I think my judgement is probably quite accurate as I am an audiophile.
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I don't know you and I don't want to flame and offend you, but let's make something clear here. The only difference between an audiophile and non-audiophile is that an audiophile is rich enough to spend $5000 on a gold RCA cable, because he believes it will affect the sound. It's a placebo effect, because apart from synthetic tests, sound is subjective. What you call "clear and warm" could be "flat" for others too. And it also has been proven many times that most of the so called audiophiles can't tell the difference between FLAC and 256kbps music tracks when played on a good equipment (that means source+DAC+AMP+speakers, without any other audio voodoo) in blind A/B tests.
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Because YouTube and Spotify are being shetheads. The audio always sounds more quiet that other apps for some strange reason.
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Ah, thanks for you answer, that sounds like it is something to expect.
grt67DFqyu said:
I don't know you and I don't want to flame and offend you, but let's make something clear here. The only difference between an audiophile and non-audiophile is that an audiophile is rich enough to spend $5000 on a gold RCA cable, because he believes it will affect the sound. It's a placebo effect, because apart from synthetic tests, sound is subjective. What you call "clear and warm" could be "flat" for others too. And it also has been proven many times that most of the so called audiophiles can't tell the difference between FLAC and 256kbps music tracks when played on a good equipment (that means source+DAC+AMP+speakers, without any other audio voodoo) in blind A/B tests.
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No, audiophile doesn't mean that you spend a ****ton of money on audio gear, it means that you can tell a difference between AirPods and decent IEM's, heck, some of the best audio experience can be had without spending even 100eur, buy KZ ZS10PRO's and FiiO M3K PRO, anything above that will be an incremental increase in audio quality for pretty big costs.
Uiisii hm12 is good enough.....