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After using about 20 different roms I discovered that that I like it the way it came. Although, I did root it to use any rooted only apps, lol.
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After using about 20 different roms I discovered that that I like it the way it came. Although, I did root it to use any rooted only apps, lol.
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Have you tried a Sense cleaned up (bloatware) ROM? In any case, you might want to use Titanium to at least freeze some of the bloatware apps. You should still be able to get the OTA 2.3 update if/when HTC/TMo finally gets around to it.
I am not sure if being rooted will prevent that.
root on stock ROM shouldnt prevent it. although you will probably lose root. good idea to wait to update and see what the devs say about any new update. losing root to a new update isnt cool because you never know how long it will take for some one to figure out how to root again.
I am with you. I have not tried nor want to try any roms. I really like the default rom as is. I came from the HD2 where I flashed so many different roms, I ended up staying with a version of the mytouch 4g. Then I went and bought a real mytouch 4g and love it. I also rooted to get rid of the crappy apps. No problem with keeping it as is. People will always try and talk you into flashing a custom, but to be honest this is the first time I never have had any bugs or issues that I had to live with until the "next update".
same here...no matter how many different ROMS I flash, I always end up going back to the stock MySense. I did have a great experience with Orange Sense tho, pure sense and blazing fast thanks to Faux
Totally with you guys, after flashing several roms, trying to get them to work properly, then ending up too frustrated to continue, went right back to stock rom. rooted and removed bloatware. now happy as can be.
Same deal here. I came from the HD2 running android as well with the MT4G build, then I just bought the real deal. Mainly for the wifi calling and the front camera for the video calling. I gave the HD2 to my daughter and for some reason just last week the touch screen stopped working,, for windows and android. So there sending me a replacement, it should be here sometime this week. Does any of you know if I can use HP3 to flash roms and android builds? cuz I did use HD2 and Now I can't find it but I did find HD3. I waS Just wondering if they did the same thing. but I'm glad to hear i'm not the only one who digs the stock sense. I thought I was the only one.. LOL.. although now that CM7 is officially out I may give it a look... but I'm sure as always i'll end up back with stock.. and hopefully we'll get the honeycomb upgrade or the 2.3 sooner or later..
I'm also happy with the Stock Sense Rom, so happy in fact that I haven't rooted yet lol. My last phone was a mytouch 3g, which I rooted a few months into owning it, because with that phone there were so many glitches and so much lag that you had to root it to get it to work decently. And I wound up flashing a bunch of sense roms lol. But with this phone, it pretty much works and does everything I need it to out of the box.
With that said, do you guys really think it's still worth it to root for the non-rom-flashing benefits? i.e. setcpu and removal of bloatware? For my needs, I don't really feel like I need to overclock the phone, but I like the idea of underclocking to save battery...also, while the bloatware apps are annoying, it's not like they have taken away any functionality of the phone...I know everyone here's MO is "ROOT ASAP" but it seems like it's a little more complicated than it was for the MT3G, and while I'm not an idiot, I'm not really a tech-whiz either lol. Just not sure if it's worth the trouble and risk if I don't want/need to flash different roms.
I ran stock for a month and used ADW Launcher EX (normal version does this also) in order to hide the bloatware from the app drawer. This phone has so much power that for me it was out of sight out of mind with bloatware. I would assume LPP and other home replacement apps would have similar functions.
I flashed around a bit after rooting but always came back to stock, but then I switched to Orange Glacier by Faux123. It's stock, just quicker and debloated with some system apps moved in case you want to remove them also. IMO it's a bit better, but I still haven't decided how life changing it is His kernels def are.
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I'm also happy with the Stock Sense Rom, so happy in fact that I haven't rooted yet lol. My last phone was a mytouch 3g, which I rooted a few months into owning it, because with that phone there were so many glitches and so much lag that you had to root it to get it to work decently. And I wound up flashing a bunch of sense roms lol. But with this phone, it pretty much works and does everything I need it to out of the box.
With that said, do you guys really think it's still worth it to root for the non-rom-flashing benefits? i.e. setcpu and removal of bloatware? For my needs, I don't really feel like I need to overclock the phone, but I like the idea of underclocking to save battery...also, while the bloatware apps are annoying, it's not like they have taken away any functionality of the phone...I know everyone here's MO is "ROOT ASAP" but it seems like it's a little more complicated than it was for the MT3G, and while I'm not an idiot, I'm not really a tech-whiz either lol. Just not sure if it's worth the trouble and risk if I don't want/need to flash different roms.
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I waited around 10 days before I rooted my phone just to get a nice feel of how things ran. yes I would definitely root if I were you. if you dont want to uninstall the bloatware, you can just freeze them with titanium. setcpu with a custom kernel underclocking with screen off will improve battery life as well(only OC to play games or view videos)
hello guys, this is my first time using a android phone. I like the stock Rom but i hate how slow the phone is running. Is there a way for me to overclock the phone and get rid of the awful bloatware tmo put in this thing?
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hello guys, this is my first time using a android phone. I like the stock Rom but i hate how slow the phone is running. Is there a way for me to overclock the phone and get rid of the awful bloatware tmo put in this thing?
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Download ice or royal glacier.
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Can you tell me the benefit or the main reason(s) why you rooted your Inspire?
My main reasons are the ability to change whatever I want. And better battery life.
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Are you serious?
Not to sound mean, but have you ever searched Google or this forum before you thought of asking?
There is tons of information on here... just sayin
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Dinman said:
Are you serious?
Not to sound mean, but have you ever searched Google or this forum before you thought of asking?
There is tons of information on here... just sayin
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Yes I searched. There are no search words that will return results showing specific reasons why a member prefers a custom rom over the stock rom. In older devices a custom ROM would allow you to tether for free, remove bloatware to make room for 3rd party applications, remove buggy 2nd party software, remove unnecessary apps to allow the system to run faster, allow the customization of the UI when it was otherwise un-modifiable or fix glitches that made it through testing on the stock ROM but that doesn't seem to be needed on the Inspire. This is the first device I haven't hacked because so far it seems to be unnecessary. I could read custom ROM threads all day but finding a post where a user cited an issue relieved by using a custom ROM or a major benefit (that's not a trivial figment of their imagination) would be one heck of a needle in a haystack search. So it would be great to get this specific info into a thread.
Custom Roms.
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Yes I searched. There are no search words that will return results showing specific reasons why a member prefers a custom rom over the stock rom. In older devices a custom ROM would allow you to tether for free, remove bloatware to make room for 3rd party applications, remove buggy 2nd party software, remove unnecessary apps to allow the system to run faster, allow the customization of the UI when it was otherwise un-modifiable or fix glitches that made it through testing on the stock ROM but that doesn't seem to be needed on the Inspire. This is the first device I haven't hacked because so far it seems to be unnecessary. I could read custom ROM threads all day but finding a post where a user cited an issue relieved by using a custom ROM or a major benefit (that's not a trivial figment of their imagination) would be one heck of a needle in a haystack search. So it would be great to get this specific info into a thread.
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I prefer stock Android to sense and hate bloatware. I won't buy a phone now until cm7 is available.
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jamespaulritter said:
Yes I searched. There are no search words that will return results showing specific reasons why a member prefers a custom rom over the stock rom. In older devices a custom ROM would allow you to tether for free, remove bloatware to make room for 3rd party applications, remove buggy 2nd party software, remove unnecessary apps to allow the system to run faster, allow the customization of the UI when it was otherwise un-modifiable or fix glitches that made it through testing on the stock ROM but that doesn't seem to be needed on the Inspire. This is the first device I haven't hacked because so far it seems to be unnecessary. I could read custom ROM threads all day but finding a post where a user cited an issue relieved by using a custom ROM or a major benefit (that's not a trivial figment of their imagination) would be one heck of a needle in a haystack search. So it would be great to get this specific info into a thread.
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wait, what? All the things you just said that aren't needed in the stock rom without rooting are actually all reasons why people root the inspire. If you have found another way to remove bloatware without rooting please pass on that information so that those who simply rooted to remove the bloatware can do so without having to go through the entire rooting process. Without rooting you there are a lot of helpful apps you can't run, you can't remove bloatware, you really can't customize anything significant in the UI..I mean really the only reason why I rooted was to remove the pesky bloatware (sorry I just hate looking at blockbuster apps and that stupid teeter game)...the added bonuses of full customization in AOSP roms and the ability to have the performance tweaks in every other rom/kernel just made the decision easier. If you like the stock rom and see nothing wrong..keep on moving, no reason to fix something that isn't broke...I just like having full control over my device..it's for some, it's not for everyone..just my .02 cents
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wait, what? All the things you just said that aren't needed in the stock rom without rooting are actually all reasons why people root the inspire. If you have found another way to remove bloatware without rooting please pass on that information so that those who simply rooted to remove the bloatware can do so without having to go through the entire rooting process. Without rooting you there are a lot of helpful apps you can't run, you can't remove bloatware, you really can't customize anything significant in the UI..I mean really the only reason why I rooted was to remove the pesky bloatware (sorry I just hate looking at blockbuster apps and that stupid teeter game)...the added bonuses of full customization in AOSP roms and the ability to have the performance tweaks in every other rom/kernel just made the decision easier. If you like the stock rom and see nothing wrong..keep on moving, no reason to fix something that isn't broke...I just like having full control over my device..it's for some, it's not for everyone..just my .02 cents
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+1, pretty much summed up my response.
MMM-BACONSTRIPS said:
wait, what? All the things you just said that aren't needed in the stock rom without rooting are actually all reasons why people root the inspire. If you have found another way to remove bloatware without rooting please pass on that information so that those who simply rooted to remove the bloatware can do so without having to go through the entire rooting process. Without rooting you there are a lot of helpful apps you can't run, you can't remove bloatware, you really can't customize anything significant in the UI..I mean really the only reason why I rooted was to remove the pesky bloatware (sorry I just hate looking at blockbuster apps and that stupid teeter game)...the added bonuses of full customization in AOSP roms and the ability to have the performance tweaks in every other rom/kernel just made the decision easier. If you like the stock rom and see nothing wrong..keep on moving, no reason to fix something that isn't broke...I just like having full control over my device..it's for some, it's not for everyone..just my .02 cents
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Thanks, I agree. I hate seeing the blockbuster app. I actually went looking for an Obfuscate app to hide it. We use to have to remove the bloatware to make room for 3rd party apps because there was limited ROM. Meaning back in the day we got '32 megs, 64 megs' whatever for apps we wanted so we had to remove bloatware. Its not the issue it once was because now we get 1Gb, 2GB...... The reason I'm asking is because I was thinking of rooting so I could tether reverse wifi. So i'm looking for reasons to take the plunge.
rooting my inspire has made it like a completely different phone. actually, each custom rom is almost a new device itself.
but as far as perks, i like the better battery life, full customization, speed increases (data, smoothness, overclocking, etc.), constant updates, and just the joy of trying out different roms. the definite BEST perk of them all is the simple fact that you can find support for each rom from their respectful devs (not all, but the majority of the popular roms out there). HTC and the various service providers always have terrible support.
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Thanks, I agree. I hate seeing the blockbuster app. I actually went looking for an Obfuscate app to hide it. We use to have to remove the bloatware to make room for 3rd party apps because there was limited ROM. Meaning back in the day we got '32 megs, 64 megs' whatever for apps we wanted so we had to remove bloatware. Its not the issue it once was because now we get 1Gb, 2GB...... The reason I'm asking is because I was thinking of rooting so I could tether reverse wifi. So i'm looking for reasons to take the plunge.
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Yeah man, the droid milestone (the first smartphone from HTC that I remember having) was awesome in regards to bloatware. I was able to remove pretty much anything I wanted, not the case now unfortunately . Pretty much the benefits of rooting are that you get full control of your device, in pretty much every aspect. As for tethering, I'm not 100% that its supported in every ROM but I'm pretty sure there are some out there, if that's what your immediate reason for rooting is I would say start asking in the Q&A in each ROM or hopefully someone else can chime in to help you out. Like I said I rooted to get rid of the dumb bloatware, getting the performance tweaks, battery life, and customization (for most roms but more so in the AOSP ROMs) were just added bonuses
Take control of your device. Imagine being locked out of the C: drive on your computer.
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Thanks, I agree. I hate seeing the blockbuster app. I actually went looking for an Obfuscate app to hide it. We use to have to remove the bloatware to make room for 3rd party apps because there was limited ROM. Meaning back in the day we got '32 megs, 64 megs' whatever for apps we wanted so we had to remove bloatware. Its not the issue it once was because now we get 1Gb, 2GB...... The reason I'm asking is because I was thinking of rooting so I could tether reverse wifi. So i'm looking for reasons to take the plunge.
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Oh just root it already! When you use the Ace hack kit, you can't even tell it's rooted. If you like it just the way it is you can keep it that way. If you don't, try some different ROMs. You can always flash the stock ROM back (or restore it if you backed it up).
If you don't have a huge desire to root, it may not be the thing for you. I'd still recommend rooting though, you wouldn't regret it.
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If you don't have a huge desire to root, it may not be the thing for you. I'd still recommend rooting though, you wouldn't regret it.
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You'll be thinking about rooting it until you do.
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Overall, I am happy with my phone. Use it mostly for e-mail, websurfing, various apps. Don't need to play around with settings, etc. It just works.
I am interested in possibly rooting, but frankly, I don't want to spend a lot of time on tweaks, loading ROMS, etc. I just want to use my phone.
If I root without loading a new rom, what are some of the advantages?
I know that I can remove some bloatware, but unless it significantly increases battery life, then it doesn't really matter to me. Will removing bloatware do anything significant to battery life?
I am already SIM unlocked (I called AT&T, and they gave me the code to unlock).
Any other advantages?
I have rooted my wife's NOOK with CM7, and while I like it, there are issues like the Sleep of Death (SOD), occasional lag, etc., that I really don't want to deal with on my phone. I need it to work without any glitches, or constant fiddling.
My guess is I should probably stay unrooted, but wanted to see if anyone can educate me whether there are any benefits in my situation.
Thanks!
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Overall, I am happy with my phone. Use it mostly for e-mail, websurfing, various apps. Don't need to play around with settings, etc. It just works.
I am interested in possibly rooting, but frankly, I don't want to spend a lot of time on tweaks, loading ROMS, etc. I just want to use my phone.
If I root without loading a new rom, what are some of the advantages?
I know that I can remove some bloatware, but unless it significantly increases battery life, then it doesn't really matter to me. Will removing bloatware do anything significant to battery life?
I am already SIM unlocked (I called AT&T, and they gave me the code to unlock).
Any other advantages?
I have rooted my wife's NOOK with CM7, and while I like it, there are issues like the Sleep of Death (SOD), occasional lag, etc., that I really don't want to deal with on my phone. I need it to work without any glitches, or constant fiddling.
My guess is I should probably stay unrooted, but wanted to see if anyone can educate me whether there are any benefits in my situation.
Thanks!
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Let's start with the basics, please search before posting. The advantages of rooting and disadvantages are well documented in numerous threads. It sounds like to me your phone is what you want/need it to be so why change it? If you are explicitly telling me you don't want to spend time flashing ROMs and tweaking the Inspire then I'm telling you its in your best interest not root.
Simply put, every custom ROM on here has its issues. No ROM is perfect, certain things work while others don't and its on you to figure out what you can or cannot live with. The only way to do that is by testing ROMs which brings me back to your statement that you don't want to spend time flashing ROMs and all that stuff..if you don't want to spend time doing this, rooting is not your journey.
Battery life is subjective, overall yes, most rooters see an increase in battery life, how much is subjective. I get 28 hours on one charge while others get 6. The difference? The user and what they do with the phone. My opinion for you is that don't root, you sound content with everything the inspire is.
Devil's advocate though, your inspire could be soo much more.
if you dont know what you want root for, then you dont need to root
if you want simple, do not root. It is not an easier path to walk on. It has its bumps and glitches. Sometimes you have a bad flash or download and have to redo it, or youll forget to back up something and now your sms messages are gone. If you arent ready to dig deeper into the phone and learn and also make it do more than stay as it is, no shame in that. Hes right, if you arent SURE you need to root than you shouldnt because the gains wont be noticed. I think most of us have had an almost brick experience at some point in time, be mentally prepared lol
once i had my phone run good all night, once i got to work it just died. was a bad flash and it didnt show its ugly head till the next day so i had to wait till i got home to fix it properly. lol gave me twitches not having my phone lol
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I am interested in possibly rooting, but frankly, I don't want to spend a lot of time on tweaks, loading ROMS, etc. I just want to use my phone.
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While I agree with the posts made here already that suggest rooting may not be for you, there are a couple significant advantages which you may want to consider.
Probably the first biggest advantage from my point of view is to remove the 'spyware' (Carrier IQ) present on most factory ROMs. That's HUGE for me. I have enough government intrusion into my life, I don't need any more. Another element is that - at least on my ROM (Virtuous Unity or Affinity) that they have done an excellent job of blocking ad intrusions.
There are also some applications which require root access, though most of them are system utilities (like Titanium Backup) which you wouldn't be using if you don't intend to experiment with different ROMs.
If I'm not mistaken, there's a path to go back to the OEM (factory) ROM, however you will need to be cautious with how you back up and restore the data you need. However it's something to consider if you felt like you wanted to kick the tires while still being able to go back to stock.
As with anything else in life, there are pros and cons. At this point most ROMs are fairly stable for the Inspire, so you probably won't be at a disadvantage, but if the one thing you need on the one ROM you like is the one thing that doesn't work and it's the one thing you can't live without, then don't do it. Read the documentation for each ROM and you'll know what to do.
I rooted my wife's Inspire so that I could get rid of unwanted AT&T and HTC apps and get rid of Carrier IQ.
The result has been better battery life and no prompts/notifications for updates to apps that were installed as system apps but that I have removed. I believe that the phone runs smoother without the stuff that was running in the background.
She really does not see any difference (except the battery life) in her everyday use.
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I rooted my wife's Inspire so that I could get rid of unwanted AT&T and HTC apps and get rid of Carrier IQ.
The result has been better battery life and no prompts/notifications for updates to apps that were installed as system apps but that I have removed. I believe that the phone runs smoother without the stuff that was running in the background.
She really does not see any difference (except the battery life) in her everyday use.
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Did you install a different ROM, or just keep the stock (except for the rooted part) and delete the bloatware? How much of a difference did it make in the battery life?
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if you dont know what you want root for, then you dont need to root
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Agreed here. Rooting requires learning more in depth capabilities about your phone. If you are content with the status quo, why complicate?
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Did you install a different ROM, or just keep the stock (except for the rooted part) and delete the bloatware? How much of a difference did it make in the battery life?
Thanks!
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No change in ROM. Battery usually has better than 50% at night when she goes to bed. She unplugs at 5 AM and usually it's back on the charger around 10 PM. Before it was at about 30% most nights.
I also believe that it uses less background data.
Root that ***** n throw a couple ROMs on there to play with. Ever since I've roted my phone a while ago I can't stop playing with new ROMs as they cone out.
Forgive me if I'm wrong but I thought that thisbphone never had carrier iq
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Well, I went against the good advice offered here and rooted.
I used the Ace Hack Kit, with Ubuntu, which worked perfectly as expected.
I have not installed any ROM's, as I think I will just try to remove any bloatware, etc to see if the phone battery life increases.
Any suggestions as to what to remove (I am trying a search as we speak)?
Thanks!
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Well, I went against the good advice offered here and rooted.
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Generally, I'd suggest removing anything that's carrier-specific. Those apps tend to be better for them than they are for you. To do so, I'd recommend a couple utilities that will help you in your experimentation.
1) Titanium Backup. Good for removing bloatware, when you decide what it is you don't need or want.
2) ROM Manager / Clockwork. Great for downloading ROMs and managing backups from the Android interface.
Part of what might be draining your batter is Carrier IQ, but that's not something easily dug out. You'd do better to just install a ROM that's had it expertly removed. I'd suggest either Virtuous Unity or Virtuous Affinity.
The Inspire was not released w/CIQ.
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The Inspire was not released w/CIQ.
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Better safe than sorry, I suppose.
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Sigh. All was well with my phone, and I had taken the case off to clean it. I was in the back yard with the phone, and boom, I dropped it on the patio. Landed face down and screen cracked.
I guess I'll be looking for a new phone now.
Thanks for all of your help!
f308gt4 said:
Overall, I am happy with my phone. Use it mostly for e-mail, websurfing, various apps. Don't need to play around with settings, etc. It just works.
I am interested in possibly rooting, but frankly, I don't want to spend a lot of time on tweaks, loading ROMS, etc. I just want to use my phone.
If I root without loading a new rom, what are some of the advantages?
I know that I can remove some bloatware, but unless it significantly increases battery life, then it doesn't really matter to me. Will removing bloatware do anything significant to battery life?
I am already SIM unlocked (I called AT&T, and they gave me the code to unlock).
Any other advantages?
I have rooted my wife's NOOK with CM7, and while I like it, there are issues like the Sleep of Death (SOD), occasional lag, etc., that I really don't want to deal with on my phone. I need it to work without any glitches, or constant fiddling.
My guess is I should probably stay unrooted, but wanted to see if anyone can educate me whether there are any benefits in my situation.
Thanks!
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Removing bloat is advantageous to battery life, but the best feature IMO is AdFree Android. It , which removes ALL ads, in the browser or in the apps. It makes browsing and apps faster and cleaner.
f308gt4 said:
Sigh. All was well with my phone, and I had taken the case off to clean it. I was in the back yard with the phone, and boom, I dropped it on the patio. Landed face down and screen cracked.
I guess I'll be looking for a new phone now.
Thanks for all of your help!
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just go on craigs list and find a local repair shop. the same thign happened to me, $100 and she's brand new again
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Removing bloat is advantageous to battery life, but the best feature IMO is AdFree Android. It , which removes ALL ads, in the browser or in the apps. It makes browsing and apps faster and cleaner.
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No, the best feature is the fact you get full control of the device you purchased, anything else is secondary.
Root if for no other reason than to install CWM and keep up to date nandroid backups of your oem rom. It's always nice to have a quick solution in case something bad ever happens.
Plus, a lot of cool apps require root access.
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Hi guys,
Just got a Nexus 5, had previously had a Samsung Galaxy S3.
My S3 was rooted, mainly to get rid of carrier bloatware and later because I wanted the Android 4.2 camera with Photosphere (my carrier was stuck on 4.1 until a few months ago).
As time wore on my device had numerous problems ultimately I felt related to rooting, I could never find ROM's with at least one major glitch. I ended up on a stock ROM for most the time with the only root change was flashing the 4.2 camera for Photosphere. Rooting in general I found caused more headaches than it was worth.
Anyways, I just got the Nexus 5 and have no real intention to root it. Since it's devoid of carrier bloatware and it runs super fast and responsive, just wondering what the real credible benefits to rooting it are? (and voiding warranty in the process)??
I don't see a lot of bloatware on the device, it's going to get constant updates from Google (as opposed to devices depandant on a carrier), I don't really need to overclock or mess with kernals on an already fast device.
Am I missing something here?
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Hi guys,
Just got a Nexus 5, had previously had a Samsung Galaxy S3.
My S3 was rooted, mainly to get rid of carrier bloatware and later because I wanted the Android 4.2 camera with Photosphere (my carrier was stuck on 4.1 until a few months ago).
As time wore on my device had numerous problems ultimately I felt related to rooting, I could never find ROM's with at least one major glitch. I ended up on a stock ROM for most the time with the only root change was flashing the 4.2 camera for Photosphere. Rooting in general I found caused more headaches than it was worth.
Anyways, I just got the Nexus 5 and have no real intention to root it. Since it's devoid of carrier bloatware and it runs super fast and responsive, just wondering what the real credible benefits to rooting it are? (and voiding warranty in the process)??
I don't see a lot of bloatware on the device, it's going to get constant updates from Google (as opposed to devices depandant on a carrier), I don't really need to overclock or mess with kernals on an already fast device.
Am I missing something here?
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Some people prefer different launchers or ROMs or to have access to certain functions (e.g. full backup) that require root. I've had my N5 for a month and haven't felt the need for it, so I'm still stock, locked, unrooted.
Xposed for me.
Most of the mods from Custom ROMs with the OTA updates from Google
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Xposed framework, Adaway, Lmt launcher, AppOps, AutomateIt Pro... Basicly everything to take control over your device.
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So.....ad blocking apps, minor tweaks, custom ROM's.
eh, not really compelling reasons for me I guess.
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So.....ad blocking apps, minor tweaks, custom ROM's.
eh, not really compelling reasons for me I guess.
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I wouldn't call them minor tweaks at all. There is an extremely wide variety of things that require your phone to be rooted. Often times an app will have limited functionality without root.
Please note that rooting your phone has nothing to do with using a custom rom. (You can in fact have a custom rom that is not rooted) Your problems with your prior phone were not in any way as a result of rooting the phone. If you had problems with the rom (sometimes custom roms have broken components) that has nothing to do with having root access.
At this point, I'd be willing to bet the most common usage of the phone at this point (amongst users of this site) are those who are rooted, but still using the stock rom. More and more users are migrating to the custom roms, but this is because rom development takes a bit of time with major releases.
AdAway is the main reason for me - I HATE adverts with a passion!
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Sianspheric said:
So.....ad blocking apps, minor tweaks, custom ROM's.
eh, not really compelling reasons for me I guess.
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what you consider "minor tweaks", might be a big deal for someone else. Tastes differ.
i root because of 1 main reason, i paid for the device and i believe i should be able to have full control over it.
Another thing is, whatever i do with my phone, i always know what i'm doing and why i'm doing it, so the odds of screwing something up are very little. In case i do need to claim warranty, i know how to set everything back.
Sianspheric said:
So.....ad blocking apps, minor tweaks, custom ROM's.
eh, not really compelling reasons for me I guess.
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Ehm...why did you buy a nexus? Actually i don't even know what you are doing on xda. No offense but... Sound more like an iPhone kind a guy...
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It's up to you whether to root or not. Whatever problems you had with your previous device, it wasn't due to rooting persay, but rather what you did with root access. Rooting doesn't change anything, it just gives you administrative access to the operating system. Running un-rooted is analogous to accessing your desktop PC through a guest account. Rooting your Android device gives you full access like you have on your desktop as as an administrator.
He just wants to know the benefits. No need to harp on him for not wanting to root. If anything Nexus 5 has less reasons to be rooted then OEM phones.
bblzd said:
He just wants to know the benefits. No need to harp on him for not wanting to root. If anything Nexus 5 has less reasons to be rooted then OEM phones.
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Maybe someday he'll want to tether.
AT LEAST UNLOCK THE BOOTLOADER
Fastboot OEM Unlock
That easy, it'll erase EVERYTHING. So if you do it now you won't lose much. Do it later when you want to root (like my mother and myself) you'll have to unlock and lose everything.
If you ever need you return it just lock it again it's easy. And you won't lose ANYTHING for relocking it.
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Two words....
Franco kernel
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Titanium back up because I'm too lazy to reinstall all of my apps on my previous device.
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Not much reason to if your main use is as a "daily driver".
Mine is rooted mainly due to needing to use it for development work related to my job, but ad blocking and several xposed modules would require root anyways. That and I just can't help but mess with stuff like CPU frequency/voltage settings, etc.
Ben36 said:
Two words....
Franco kernel
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I second this.
I was previously on Galaxy S2 rooted. I'd tested some custom roms like chamaleon, cm, but at last, what i realized that I needed wasn't a lot of new features i only wanted a good battery performance and a fc and random reboots free phone.
So I returned to stock roms with the more stock-like rooted kernel with Xposed and some additions. At last I got a good battery performance to keep the phone full day without charging.
Now that my N5 is with me for about 6 or 7 weeks I don't need rooting, modding ... nothing. The performance for my daily use is about 30 hours between charges with almost 3 hours with screen on.
That is all I need!
And for backups (i've payed for titanium backup app for my S2) now I use ADB from command line and it's enought for me
Also, the Nexus in this conditions hasn't hanged yet.
It spent more than 350 hours until I decided to change to Dart and I had to restart the phone. this is much better than my old S2 that needed two or three weekly reboots even with stock rom.
So, i'm very happy with my non-rooted N5 but if I need to root it in the near future it will be not a problem to me doing it.
I use it for Titanium Backup myself, whose backups I periodically have uploaded to Box.com. Obviously it's there for when I want to change phone and want to restore app data, especially for game saves, but you also never know if your phone is going to malfunction and you have to wipe or get lost/stolen. I think it's pretty useful to have an app that automatically takes care of backing up your data for you.
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http://lifehacker.com/top-10-reasons-to-root-your-android-phone-1079161983
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I haven't touched a Samsung device since the galaxy s1 i9000 and have stuck to nexus phones since that time.
I thought I would give Samsung another blast this year and see if they have redeemed their selves over the years in regards to the amount of animation stutter and input lag since they claimed to have streamlined TW and have started using their own processors to make everything work in harmony etc.
The phone itself is really really great and I quite like it but I again am still getting animation stutter all over the place.
Scrolling in play store is horrible. The simple tasks of pressing between the tabs in the dialer is the worst out of them all them and really has terrible animation and most apps stutter like mad where my old nexus 5 was nice and smooth which I can only blame TW for. Even the keyboard goes nuts if you try to look through the emojis. There's no excuse for this in this day and age with what this phone is packing.
Is it just my device or is anyone else getting a lot of stutter etc on their device?
Is their anything that can be done to solve the issue other than swap the phone
Ta
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zolah said:
The phone itself is really really great and I quite like it but I again am still getting animation stutter all over the place.
Scrolling in play store is horrible. The simple tasks of pressing between the tabs in the dialer is the worst out of them all them and really has terrible animation and most apps stutter like mad where my old nexus 5 was nice and smooth which I can only blame TW for. Even the keyboard goes nuts if you try to look through the emojis. There's no excuse for this in this day and age with what this phone is packing.
Is it just my device or is anyone else getting a lot of stutter etc on their device?
Is their anything that can be done to solve the issue other than swap the phone
Ta
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5.1 kinda made this issue a lot worse! I set animation in dev option to 0.5x and it helps a little!
You can try a custom ROM. You often get a much better performance with it. Or try to root and uninstall bloatware. Hope this helps.
BenjyTec said:
You can try a custom ROM. You often get a much better performance with it. Or try to root and uninstall bloatware. Hope this helps.
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Any links to guides on this. I used Odin back in the day a lot to flash custom ROMs but that's going back a long time.
Cheers
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6-edge/general/howto-flash-g92xf-t-tripping-knox-t3158606/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...xtrestolite-deodexed-mod-edition-1-0-t3094423
1. Use the first link if you want to keep your warranty safe.
2 A nice, clean, fast ROM you can use (it's the one i'm currently using) also, I would like to give back-to-n0t3 a shot soon.
Note 5 user here. Same issues on this device It's really disappointing Scrolling lag is so much higher than on my OPO.
I have no lag at all on mine running 5.1.1 - I'm usually pretty sensitive to it!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6-edge/general/howto-flash-g92xf-t-tripping-knox-t3158606/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...xtrestolite-deodexed-mod-edition-1-0-t3094423
1. Use the first link if you want to keep your warranty safe.
2 A nice, clean, fast ROM you can use (it's the one i'm currently using) also, I would like to give back-to-n0t3 a shot soon.
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Please don't withhold all information. First link's method only works on S6 variants G92XF/T. It does not work on other variants and if attempted will cause a soft brick. For other variants of S6 on 5.1.1 there is no way to root or install custom kernels without tripping Knox.
On the subject of lag, proper usage of the phone and knowing how to free up RAM can reduce lag on your phone. Examples include clearing recent activities, using Smart Manager to "clean up" background activities and rebooting the phone every few days. With root you can use more efficient methods like Titanium Backup to freeze apps and Greenify to kill background processes. Don't just sit there complaining about lag this and lag that, go and read up on how to free up RAM on your phone and reduce lag on it.