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[Q] Display response time / ghosting

Has anyone else noticed the large amount of ghosting the Xoom display has? Its very prevalent to me, especially when a red or black object moves across the screen (red angry bird (especially when zoomed in), red icon on homescreen while scrolling (pew pew), black bars between gallery images, etc).
Its bothering me to the point of returning it (and looks like I'll have to eat the 15%/$90 restocking fee at Amazon). I'm wondering if the Asus Eee Pad Transformer or Samsung Galaxy Tab 8.9/10.1 will have a better response rate. I know they both should have a better viewing angle with their IPS displays.

I have an ISF certificate and don't see any ghosting...

Really? Could it be I have a defective unit. I just find it hard to believe I would be the only one to have/see this.

Listen enable flash, then open this site on your xoom try to go full screen and tell me your findings.
http://www.prad.de/en/monitore/testsoftware/ghosting.html
Btw I have ghosting as well, but never noticed it on before. Thanks for the heads up. Ill reply back when I get more info.
I have no ghosting at all on my nexus one, the screen size have a huge effect on ghosting btw, but just an fyi.

2 Days ago I've been playing DoodleJump on the Xoom, and noticed the game running faster (you can test this) ofcourse you'll have to be familiar with the usual pace of it on the phone version of the game.
I've suspected the frame rate per second to be higher on the Xoom than the Nexus one...which could also be factored in, in refresh rate and then added to the whole performance. Which could spark problems like the ghosting we are seeing.(if you ever tried emulating a PXS on a PC you'll know what I mean)
I know that the screen response time could be a major factor but I couldn't get any information regarding the specifics of this screen. (btw you could be holding two Xooms with different screens)
So my guess for now, is the problem is with the refresh rate on the screen or the way the JIT compiler emulates...which could be solved with an update or a software tweak. Take what I said about the software side of this with a grin of salt

wow horrendous ghosting!!!!! (Using the ghosting test above)

Bumping this thread. Just noticed this on my xoom! Is it normal?

Another test : try going to http://tinyurl.com/xoghost and watch the drumsets at the bottom of the page and the guy in the second last row of second page ghost when you scroll the pages up and down.

Sorry... just saw the responses to the thread. For some reason my email notifications were off.
I ended up returning my Xoom to Amazon while still in the 30 day window so I can't do any further testing. One of the primary reasons for returning was due to the screen ghosting (and overall screen quality). I've also got my eye on the Asus transformer with the IPS display, but it keeps getting delayed. I might just wait until fall reign the next wave of tablets come out... maybe something with a tegra 3
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I'm also seeing quite a bit of ghosting. Is this typical for xoom users?

Selbmig said:
I'm also seeing quite a bit of ghosting. Is this typical for xoom users?
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It would seem so, It's absloutely terrible using the ghosting test linked. I'm getting a ghost the length of the actual cube trailing on my screen, in full screen. =/

ASUS Transformer doesnt suffer that much with the links you posted.

There are two different panels for xooms, one being AU optronics brand (typically sited as the cheap/crappy display) and the Sharp brand display which is supposed to be better.
I have the AU Optronics display and going to the ghosting URL linked previously I get terrible ghosting.
Can anyone with the sharp display test this and see what they see?
You can determine the display type by typing dmesg into a term emulator.
Sharp panels say: 'lcd_manfid=SHP'
AU panels say: 'lcd_manfid=AUO'
Now since dmesg is the kernal ring buffer you might need to reboot before you see it in your dmesg output.
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I'm not surprised by the ghosting on these displays. Every mobile device I've owned has ghosted horribly. Even a lot of monitors around the office do it, but people don't seem to notice or care. I've always used 2ms displays at my home setup because of this. That being said, I paid about twice what other displays of similar size cost. People don't want to see the price of their precious electronics going up without seeing more nice specs on the list. A low response time display won't sell as well as a faster CPU or RAM... If you find a market that is looking at those 2 specs then make them great. Cheap out on the rest.

Actually this ghosting effect is due to the speed at which the pixels can change from one color to another. Some displays have issues with different color transitions.
This is something that doesn't happen on my nexus ones amoled display. And most of my monitors that I have also don't have this issue, at least to the degree of the xoom. It is disappointing to see how cheap the xoom display is.
I bet my droidx doesn't suffer from this either.
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Maybe I'm crazy, but I began to notice ghosting on the screen, especially on the desktop after I upgraded to 3.2 Honeycomb.
If anyone can test whether the effect exists in 3.0 and 3.2, I appreciate it.

UK Xoom Wi-Fi only and I get ghosting too!
lcd_manfid=SHP

smsmasters said:
UK Xoom Wi-Fi only and I get ghosting too!
lcd_manfid=SHP
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Yes, there's some ghosting, but so what? What does it actually affect? I haven't found any effect whatsoever.

Doesn't bother me. Just posting my findings.
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smsmasters said:
Doesn't bother me. Just posting my findings.
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I know...I wasn't shouting or anything ;^ )
I just think this ghosting thing is not a big deal.

Coming from a Nexus One.. initial thoughts

Just got my T-Mobile HTC Sensation in the mail today.. haven't popped in my SIM card yet, just playing with it a bit to see how I like it. My initial thoughts:
Very well built, feels great in your hand, doesn't feel heavy or bulky at all. Big thumbs up
The viewing angles really are bad.. unless you look at it straight on, a black background becomes gray and the image becomes cloudy. I'm probably spoiled by the AMOLED on the N1, but that's my reaction.
The browser is silky smooth! You can pinch-zoom at will, everything is crisp and sharp. But again, it looks washed out to me.
The launcher IS LAGGY. There's just no other way to put it. Swiping homescreens is laggy, pinch zooming out to see all of them is laggy and choppy, and a factory reset didn't solve that problem.
Camera and camcorder are good! Video framerates are good even in low light.
I know LauncherPro would probably fix the lag, but then where is that Dual Core performance? What's the point of designing such a grand 3D interface if the homescreens aren't smooth?
That screen is really bothering me... I thought I would be okay, but despite the resolution I like the Nexus One display better, just because it always looks great even if it's sitting on your desk and you glance at it. With the Sensation, you just see a washed out glow... yuck.
Sorry if this sounds really harsh, but these are my gut initial reactions. I really want to like this phone.. let's see!

The 'dual-core' is more marketing. It adds nothing to the phone's performance. I previously had a G2X and it was slower than my Nexus S. I'm just hoping this phone that I have ordered won't reboot 3x's a day.

you must have had a bad g2x. i've had both and the g2x was way faster than both the nexus s and the sensation.

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The 'dual-core' is more marketing. It adds nothing to the phone's performance. I previously had a G2X and it was slower than my Nexus S. I'm just hoping this phone that I have ordered won't reboot 3x's a day.
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Like the previous poster said. You must have had a bad G2X (like 99% of the people who own one) because the G2X I had was the quickest Android device I have ever used (including the Nexus S). Dual Core is not a marketing term. Android just hasn't utilized the two cores yet (except for Honey Comb). I can attest to games playing at a higher frame rate on both the Sensation and the G2X than they did on my Vibrant, Nexus S and Nexus One.

To the OP....Once I turned the animations off and that stupid animated weather when unlocking the phone, the lag went away. I now have no lag when deleting items from the home screen, transitioning home screens and opening the app drawer. When I kept the phone stock like HTC sent it, it did in fact lag a little but not much. In my opinion HTC put to much animation into Android without having hardware acceleration.

The lag comes from HTC sense...it's an awesome UI for customization and features, but uses a lot of resources.

brian85 said:
The lag comes from HTC sense...it's an awesome UI for customization and features, but uses a lot of resources.
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Yep once were rooted and we can remove sense well be flying even more

pakraider said:
Very well built, feels great in your hand, doesn't feel heavy or bulky at all. Big thumbs up
The viewing angles really are bad.. unless you look at it straight on, a black background becomes gray and the image becomes cloudy. I'm probably spoiled by the AMOLED on the N1, but that's my reaction.
The browser is silky smooth! You can pinch-zoom at will, everything is crisp and sharp. But again, it looks washed out to me.
The launcher IS LAGGY. There's just no other way to put it. Swiping homescreens is laggy, pinch zooming out to see all of them is laggy and choppy, and a factory reset didn't solve that problem.
Camera and camcorder are good! Video framerates are good even in low light.
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I'm also coming from an N1
-Agree on the build quality. Only thing I can say is that I feel a little bit shaky about the actual release button for the back cover but no biggy.
-I feel you on the bad viewing angles
-Agree on the browser
-You know what, I don't have that many apps on my phone but my phone is not laggy, pretty responsive actually, I would say more so than my N1.
-Haven't messed around with the camera too much yet.
One thing though I was sad to shelf the AMOLED on my N1 but am not as disappointed as I thought I would be. Yes the viewing angles are BAD I do admit that but I'm pretty happy with my straight on view of the display. It is very vibrant head on and not far off from the quality of the N1. I wonder if there are multiple screen manufacturers... When I got an MT4G, now that display SUCKED!!! totally washed out even head on. I heard they improved the screens in the later batches but it was nasty. Screen on the sensation is 10x better but no AMOLED.

I exchanged my sensation for a new one today.the 3 hours i was using my nexus one i missed the sensation so much lol. The big screen and higher res ftw

Try GoLauncher and there should be no lag.

jrwingate6 said:
To the OP....Once I turned the animations off and that stupid animated weather when unlocking the phone, the lag went away. I now have no lag when deleting items from the home screen, transitioning home screens and opening the app drawer. When I kept the phone stock like HTC sent it, it did in fact lag a little but not much. In my opinion HTC put to much animation into Android without having hardware acceleration.
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I tried turning off the animations, but it's still a tad choppy.. I'm pretty sure it's just Sense, because I did go ahead and install LauncherPro, and it's smooth as butter. But again, then you lose all those nice Sense widgets (which I like).
I think Sense without the 3D animations, and with a standard scrollable app drawer would be the perfect combination.
note: One huge disappointment.. just like my N1, the Sensation browser is very choppy when browsing XDA forums. Really weird.

Hope to add a few comparisons soon

This may sound petty but if you don't have a 4g sim card that will slow you down also I only say this because you are coming from a nexus one
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Robertcrow said:
This may sound petty but if you don't have a 4g sim card that will slow you down also I only say this because you are coming from a nexus one
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A SIM card has nothing to do with the phone's UI being choppy.

Robertcrow said:
This may sound petty but if you don't have a 4g sim card that will slow you down also I only say this because you are coming from a nexus one
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Not necessarily true. Im using the SIM card from my N1 in my G2X now and getting great 4G speeds. No.changes to my plan either.

Just a shot my wife had issues with her mt4g being slow then she was told she didn't have a 4g sim card then after she got one there has been no lag
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Coming from an N1 myself. I agree on the display. I used my N1 as an alarm clock in the dock and you could get it very dark. On the lowest brightness, the Sensation is like a beacon lighting up the whole room. Viewing angles are not great, but I dunno...I'm usually looking directly at my phone so I doubt it will be a huge issue. The N1 certainly spoiled me....
Some other thoughts:
The notification LED is almost worthless...I didn't even see it until day two of using the Sensation. A strange location and it isn't very bright.
Build quality is excellent, although the "sharp" edges on the front can make it sorta strange to hold...I'll probably get used to it.
After coming from stock Android on an unlocked N1 (not rooted), I can say I am looking forward to this thing being rooted so I can remove the dozens of silly apps I will never use. Very frustrating. Especially since I got one for my Dad and I know seeing a bunch of apps he doesn't want is going to confuse him.
I'm split on sense. I like a few of the widgets and I really like the unlock screen, but having duplicate applications is annoying (a "sense email" and "gmail", a "sense calendar" and "calender", etc). All in all, I would probably opt to remove it and return to stock Android if I could.
The Facebook integration is nice with one glaring problem: It auto syncs the facebook contacts. Not a big deal in the "contacts" app because you can hide them. However, go write a text message and it draws from the "people" app which has no ability to hide contacts and shows them all at once and multiple entries if they have more than one phone number. So I would go to write a text message and see a few hundred people from facebook that I barley know and would never want to text. The only way I could get rid of them was to disable the HTC facebook app, download the official one from the market and then opt not to share any contact info from Facebook. It works just like it did on my N1 (no FB integration, just go to the app) but it just seems silly that they thought of this issue on the contacts display but not for text messaging because the integration is actually sorta cool. For instance, it would download profile pictures for all of my contacts and even show recent status updates in the contacts view. Too bad they botched it on the text messaging.

lightforce said:
yep once were rooted and we can remove sense well be flying even more
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+1000000000

I too switched from a nexus one to the sensation. i love it soo much the only thing i dont like is it seems the data stops randomly when i have full 4g. maybe its my network in colorado but thats a little annoying. other than that with launcher pro and gosms it runs soooo smooth and no lag at all. multitasking is awesome!! when running music beta browser and other appz.

somethings up cause i have no chop. it's butter smooth. ans i have turned none of the animations off.

Weird artifacts in HDR photos?

First one is non-HDR, second is HDR. Notice the second seems to have a weird shadow/dark spot in the sky. I've seen similar strange things in other HDR photos. Anybody else?
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looks like the dreaded purple artifact... honestly, people are still debating if it's a hardware problem or software problem... solution? 4.3 update to Sense should fix it, that's the rumor at least anyway.

holyevilcow said:
looks like the dreaded purple artifact... honestly, people are still debating if it's a hardware problem or software problem... solution? 4.3 update to Sense should fix it, that's the rumor at least anyway.
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Is it an issue on the HTC One or have others with the One mini reported it?
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holyevilcow said:
looks like the dreaded purple artifact... honestly, people are still debating if it's a hardware problem or software problem... solution? 4.3 update to Sense should fix it, that's the rumor at least anyway.
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This looks nothing at all like the tinting issue many others are having with the HTC One. In fact, it looks exactly like the HDR processing effect that occurs when you've got a strong light source (the sun) behind a solid object (the tree.) This looks like a completely normal byproduct to me.

ericiidx said:
This looks nothing at all like the tinting issue many others are having with the HTC One. In fact, it looks exactly like the HDR processing effect that occurs when you've got a strong light source (the sun) behind a solid object (the tree.) This looks like a completely normal byproduct to me.
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For what it's worth, the sun wasn't behind that tree. It was directly overhead.
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phositadc said:
For what it's worth, the sun wasn't behind that tree. It was more or less directly overhead.
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What you are seeing is not a bug, but a normal result of "tone mapping", a technique commonly associated with HDR.
Tone mapping is where it automatically darkens light areas of the picture and lightens dark areas of the picture to reduce the overall dynamic range, hence fitting more dynamic range into the image. The downside to it is that it results in this crappy-looking effect around the edges of areas of uniform brightness.
In some cases you can adjust the level of tone-mapping or its blur-radius to minimise such effects. Unfortunately in this case it looks like you can't. It has far too high a blur-radius and is far too strong.
HDR is only gonna work satisfactorily on some images. It is definitely not something you should use all the time. It's a cheesy effect, and over-use of it or using it where not appropriate simply produces ugly results.
Do a search on Google for "tone mapping" and you'll see other spectacularly bad examples of this cheesy effect.

MercuryStar said:
What you are seeing is not a bug, but a normal result of "tone mapping", a technique commonly associated with HDR.
Tone mapping is where it automatically darkens light areas of the picture and lightens dark areas of the picture to reduce the overall dynamic range, hence fitting more dynamic range into the image. The downside to it is that it results in this crappy-looking effect around the edges of areas of uniform brightness.
In some cases you can adjust the level of tone-mapping or its blur-radius to minimise such effects. Unfortunately in this case it looks like you can't. It has far too high a blur-radius and is far too strong.
HDR is only gonna work satisfactorily on some images. It is definitely not something you should use all the time. It's a cheesy effect, and over-use of it or using it where not appropriate simply produces ugly results.
Do a search on Google for "tone mapping" and you'll see other spectacularly bad examples of this cheesy effect.
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Thanks for the info. I wish the one mini had the option to save both the HDR and the non-hdr so you had a backup image when HDR causes problems like this.
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Greg spot when taking picture

EDIT: Sorry, title should be grey* spot
Hey guys, so I just noticed when I take a picture using the new camera or Instagram there's a grey spot in one corner. I tried wiping the lens to see if was dirty and nothing changes. Its actually darker on Instagram. I tried rebooting and nothing happened. Interestingly enough, it seems to disappear during video recording. Here's a sample when taking the picture. Its in the top left corner. I noticed this today and it had not occurred before today. I had my phone since launch. All camera options have the spot except video recording. anyone have ideas?
Also, I just checked snapchat and that has no grey spot.
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It could be an issue with the sensor (dirt / damage).
Video recording uses a much lower resolution. A camera pic is 8 mpix. Video records at 1080 which is about 2 mpix... So this will only use a small (central) section of the sensor. . Which marries up with the fact the spot is in the edge.
You could try reducing photo resolution too to 1.9 mpix . I bet the spot is missing again
Also given its location, I would suspect any app that shoots 16:9 photos at almost any resolution would cut the spot out as it looks to be where the image sensor would "crop" to get a 6 mpx widescreen photo
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rootSU said:
It could be an issue with the sensor (dirt / damage).
Video recording uses a much lower resolution. A camera pic is 8 mpix. Video records at 1080 which is about 2 mpix... So this will only use a small (central) section of the sensor. . Which marries up with the fact the spot is in the edge.
You could try reducing photo resolution too to 1.9 mpix . I bet the spot is missing again
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Thanks for the response. Unfortunately, the spot is still there at 1.9 mp. I can try still wiping it down with a microfiber. Do you have any suggestions if it is indeed dirt? Snapchat does take fairly low res pics so it could still be that.

Odd.
If it is dirt, I've no recommendations. Sorry
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rootSU said:
It could be an issue with the sensor (dirt / damage).
--snipedy snip snip--
image sensor would "crop" to get a 6 mpx widescreen photo
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And to conclude what rootSU said, if it is a spec of dust or damage, then your only option is getting it repaired or to RMA it. Software won't fix this issue.
Edit: damn you guys are fast

PsychDrummer said:
Thanks for the response. Unfortunately, the spot is still there at 1.9 mp. I can try still wiping it down with a microfiber. Do you have any suggestions if it is indeed dirt? Snapchat does take fairly low res pics so it could still be that.
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Maybe I'm wrong about 1.9 being central like video :/ I jus always assumed it would be.
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Thanks guys. I'm just not sure how it would be dust on the sensor? How would it get in there since I have had no problems with it before.

It just can. All of this has happened before and all of this will happen again
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I called up Google and was told that I should wait out a few updates to see if the issue is software related and if not I can RMA. I think I'll wait a few days lol
Oh and also, he told me that a couple of updates are coming out real soon. I asked him about 4.4.3 since I was already talking to him and he said he didn't hear much but it should be out really soon. Fairly vague, but I thought it was interesting he said a couple of updates. In either case, I don't think its a software issue since multiple apps have the spot.

Do you guys know anything that I can try though to rule out it being a software issue?

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Do you guys know anything that I can try though to rule out it being a software issue?
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A thorough wipe and a bunch of pictures with different resolution settings. But honestly I think RMA is your best bet. I've read a few threads in the past about the same issue and they all got it RMAd.

akselic said:
A thorough wipe and a bunch of pictures with different resolution settings. But honestly I think RMA is your best bet. I've read a few threads in the past about the same issue and they all got it RMAd.
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I would have already told him I wanted an RMA. The only thing that im curious about is why it doesn't show up in video recording/snapchat. I know rootSU said that it was because of the difference in resolution, but I checked the resolution of snapchat and it was 1080p. Also, when I switched to 1.9 pixel image it was still there and I feel like that's already a very small resolution.

PsychDrummer said:
I would have already told him I wanted an RMA. The only thing that im curious about is why it doesn't show up in video recording/snapchat. I know rootSU said that it was because of the difference in resolution, but I checked the resolution of snapchat and it was 1080p. Also, when I switched to 1.9 pixel image it was still there and I feel like that's already a very small resolution.
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Your testing indicates that pictures taken with different resolutions still use the whole sensory field of view and that rootSU could have been mistaken.
Does Snapshat clip the pictures i.e. into a certain shape (Instagram does squares for example)? If it does that would explain why you can't see the grey spot. If it doesn't, then I really don't know.

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Your testing indicates that pictures taken with different resolutions still use the whole sensory field of view and that rootSU could have been mistaken.
Does Snapshat clip the pictures i.e. into a certain shape (Instagram does squares for example)? If it does that would explain why you can't see the grey spot. If it doesn't, then I really don't know.
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Well instagram does clip pictures, and the spot does appear on instagram. It actually looks more prominent for some reason. or I could just be seeing things. I don't think snapchat clips. both video on instagram and and regular camera don't have the spot.

Black spot
PsychDrummer said:
EDIT: Sorry, title should be grey* spot
Hey guys, so I just noticed when I take a picture using the new camera or Instagram there's a grey spot in one corner. I tried wiping the lens to see if was dirty and nothing changes. Its actually darker on Instagram. I tried rebooting and nothing happened. Interestingly enough, it seems to disappear during video recording. Here's a sample when taking the picture. Its in the top left corner. I noticed this today and it had not occurred before today. I had my phone since launch. All camera options have the spot except video recording. anyone have ideas?
Also, I just checked snapchat and that has no grey spot.
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Same problem here as well with my new Nexus 5.Very annoying !! I noticed a dust spot in all my photos that seemed to develop in the last week.
I called Google's support line with the same problem. They are sending a replacement device within 48 hours. Very impressed.
But, I'm doubtful about LG's clean room for manufacturing.

joannn said:
Same problem here as well with my new Nexus 5.Very annoying !! I noticed a dust spot in all my photos that seemed to develop in the last week.
I called Google's support line with the same problem. They are sending a replacement device within 48 hours. Very impressed.
But, I'm doubtful about LG's clean room for manufacturing.
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Was it also visible in video recording? I think im going to factory reset the device to see if it goes away and if not im def getting a replacement.

Just curious what does Google or LG do when you rma or claim warrenty for this problem
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PsychDrummer said:
I would have already told him I wanted an RMA. The only thing that im curious about is why it doesn't show up in video recording/snapchat. I know rootSU said that it was because of the difference in resolution, but I checked the resolution of snapchat and it was 1080p. Also, when I switched to 1.9 pixel image it was still there and I feel like that's already a very small resolution.
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I still stand by my theory. Actually I've just discovered the new camera no longer does 16:9. The old camera did 2mpix widescreen (16:9) so I assumed that the 1.9 mpix was the same which would cut the right and left edges off the sensor like the video does. Obviously because it's using 4:3 unlike video, it didn't prove my point and looked to disprove it but actually it doesn't.
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So, I'm not sure if this new finding supports your theory. But I went into the camera app info and was able to uninstall the update to bring back to the old camera. In the view finder the spot was gone but it still appeared in pictures. For the video though, it doesn't even appear when watching the recording. So I guess it cuts it off? Regardless I'm just going to factory reset and if its still there (which I think you're right and it will be) I'm calling back and asking for RMA.
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I'm having the same issue, what gives?

Question Scrolling issues

Been noticing that scrolling seems off. When scrolling through home pages, it sometimes takes 2 or 3 swipes to go to the next page. Anyone notice this?

Yes, same with swiping up on apps to close them. Seems you just need to swipe a little more aggressively/quickly though and all is well.

Yeah, I came from a 13 pro max and the scrolling was flawless. I feel like I have to keep my finger on the screen to finish a swipe on the pixel, it's pretty annoying.

Is it as noticable when you turn off Smooth Display?

I just tried it with smooth display off and Ii works perfectly. Wonder if it's a bug

This is what happens.

Parmend2001 said:
I just tried it with smooth display off and Ii works perfectly. Wonder if it's a bug
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It's one of the first things I turn off as I prefer speed over style but you're right in that there needs to be a balance or a fix. With it on, the phone feels slow/laggy especially scrolling down webpages

It's probably enough for me to return the phone. I can't go back to 60hz lol, it hurts my eyes. I wonder if the 6pro has the same issues.

So another bug, wondering if I made the right decision ordering one of these yesterday!
All new handsets have bugs, although this seems to have more than normal. Hopefully this one will quickly be fixed with an update. There is no way I'm spending the best part of £900 on a phone to only have the screen usable on 60hz.

Parmend2001 said:
It's probably enough for me to return the phone. I can't go back to 60hz lol, it hurts my eyes. I wonder if the 6pro has the same issues.
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I'm wondering if the non-pro 7 has the same issues.

RogerF81 said:
I'm wondering if the non-pro 7 has the same issues.
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As it only has a 90hz screen it could be less prevalent.

Beefheart said:
As it only has a 90hz screen it could be less prevalent.
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Yeah. **** I'm really wondering if it was the right decision to get the 7 Pro instead of the non-pro..

Can't say I've noticed an issue. What refresh rate is being displayed when you scroll?

Went to my local Currys and played around on the demo unit there for around 20 minutes. Really like the feel of it, looking forward to getting mine now.
Anyway, for what it's worth I found absolutely no evidence of this issue with smooth display enabled. Everything worked fine on web pages and in the UI (settings menu for example) with the scrolling silky smooth and zero lags, stutters or delays in touch responses.

Beefheart said:
Went to my local Currys and played around on the demo unit there for around 20 minutes. Really like the feel of it, looking forward to getting mine now.
Anyway, for what it's worth I found absolutely no evidence of this issue with smooth display enabled. Everything worked fine on web pages and in the UI (settings menu for example) with the scrolling silky smooth and zero lags, stutters or delays in touch responses.
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Definitely some weird scrolling issues. Maybe it's on an old fw or because it's on demo mode and processing etc is bumped up to max. I wonder if they're messing about with the touch boost to try and increase battery life?

Here is what I'm talking about.
Nevermind, it won't let me upload my screen recording

Parmend2001 said:
Here is what I'm talking about.
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I don't know if it's because I'm on a mobile browser, but if you have linked or added something there I don't see it.

Beefheart said:
I don't know if it's because I'm on a mobile browser, but if you have linked or added something there I don't see it.
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I'll try doing it from a PC

Beefheart said:
I don't know if it's because I'm on a mobile browser, but if you have linked or added something there I don't see it.
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It won't let me upload a video.

Try this
New video by Paul armendarez
photos.app.goo.gl