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To those who have no banding: Have you tried this? If you have, and still see no banding, can you post a photo of it?
How to see the color banding: go to Settings, then Apps, then tap on an app and choose "Uninstall" (you can still cancel, don't worry). This screen has a gray gradient that shows severe banding on my One X, especially near the bottom of the screen. And not just banding where you see the transition between one shade and the next, but there are (many) places where the stripes go dark-light-dark.
I took a picture of my One X on that screen (using my Captivate, handheld--not the best result, but it does show the banding). I also attached a screenshot for comparison (it'll only show whatever banding your computer display has).
Since I have two smartphones, a laptop, and an HDTV here, I decided to compare the banding on the four displays. Here are my findings:
Captivate (SAMOLED) - banding is almost undetectable at all viewing angles.
Laptop screen (Dell Studio XPS 13, LCD) - banding is somewhat noticeable, slightly worse depending on viewing angle.
HDTV via HDMI (Sharp LCD, low end) - banding is slight to severe, viewing angle matters a lot.
One X - Noticeable banding from all angles (viewing angle seems to be irrelevant to this screen, which is great).
The One X's screen is still the best I've ever seen on a phone. Let's not lose perspective here! I'm just trying to investigate this particular minor issue.
Edit: In case it's not clear, I compared the banding by viewing the same screenshot on all four displays.
That looks more like how they are displaying that particular screen than anything hardware related. Otherwise we would see those bands everywhere.
AvengerBB said:
That looks more like how they are displaying that particular screen than anything hardware related. Otherwise we would see those bands everywhere.
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This.
AvengerBB said:
That looks more like how they are displaying that particular screen than anything hardware related. Otherwise we would see those bands everywhere.
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It has to do with that particular screen because
It's a linear gradient--stripes are easier to notice,
the start and end colors are not very different,
the gradient is large.
Points 2 and 3 mean there are fewer intermediate shades, and they're stretched out over a larger area. So, yes, that screen is a challenging image for a display to render, but that's exactly what "color banding" refers to--how well does a display cope with such gradients?
If you think it's not hardware related, just take a screenshot, and view that image file on your computer or another phone. The bands are less noticeable.
And again, I feel like I need to repeat that this is the best screen I've ever used, and I love it. I'm just trying to get a handle on this one issue.
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To those who have no banding: Have you tried this? If you have, and still see no banding, can you post a photo of it?
How to see the color banding: go to Settings, then Apps, then tap on an app and choose "Uninstall" (you can still cancel, don't worry). This screen has a gray gradient that shows severe banding on my One X, especially near the bottom of the screen. And not just banding where you see the transition between one shade and the next, but there are (many) places where the stripes go dark-light-dark.
I took a picture of my One X on that screen (using my Captivate, handheld--not the best result, but it does show the banding). I also attached a screenshot for comparison (it'll only show whatever banding your computer display has).
Since I have two smartphones, a laptop, and an HDTV here, I decided to compare the banding on the four displays. Here are my findings:
Captivate (SAMOLED) - banding is almost undetectable at all viewing angles.
Laptop screen (Dell Studio XPS 13, LCD) - banding is somewhat noticeable, slightly worse depending on viewing angle.
HDTV via HDMI (Sharp LCD, low end) - banding is slight to severe, viewing angle matters a lot.
One X - Noticeable banding from all angles (viewing angle seems to be irrelevant to this screen, which is great).
The One X's screen is still the best I've ever seen on a phone. Let's not lose perspective here! I'm just trying to investigate this particular minor issue.
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My understanding of color banding is that it is not so much a function of hardware, but one of software. It depends on the number of shade of a color available. The fewer bits available to display different shades, the worse the banding would be. I'm not very good at explaining it, see wikipedia for more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colour_banding
My point is that I don't think that it's a defect of any sort. I think that what we're seeing (I checked mine in the uninstall screen and there's some slight banding) is that gradient from light gray to darker gray is probably a low resolution and low color resolution graphic.
For another example, go to this page:
http://tomobriendc.net/images/Green_Gradient_to_black.png
That's a higher resolution image that gradients from green to black. When viewed at the default browser resolution, I see absolutely no banding. When I zoom in to have the image fill the screen, which puts it stretched, I can see very slight banding in the green end. Further zooming increases the banding, but by then I'm zoomed far past the full size image.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that I think this is a non-issue. The amount of banding visible (if any) has at least as much to do with the image you're trying to view as it has to do with the display. If you don't get color banding in pictures that you take, or in the UI that you use every day, then I wouldn't worry about it in the slightest.
Alright guys, I know what color banding is, and I think I was very clear in my first post that I took a screenshot, and viewed the same screenshot on four different displays. This is not about software, bit depth, or image resolution. It's about whether this display shows more color banding than other displays.
And I do agree that in typical use it's a non-issue.
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Every single new phone section had to have at least 4 of these topics. I swear I see them anytime a new phone pops out. My money is on software.
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Every single new phone section had to have at least 4 of these topics. I swear I see them anytime a new phone pops out.
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Of course you do. People just got their brand new gadget that they've been looking forward to for months, and will be living with every day for a year or two. Naturally they want to poke around and check out every little detail. At least some of us do anyway, and we're probably over-represented on forums dedicated to phones!
The second photo looks like a screen capture and I see banding.
Wouldn't that mean it's software related?
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The second photo looks like a screen capture and I see banding.
Wouldn't that mean it's software related?
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It is a screen capture, and it just means the display you're viewing it on also has some banding. I see it on my computer display, too, just not nearly as much as on my One X.
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It is a screen capture, and it just means the display you're viewing it on also has some banding. I see it on my computer display, too, just not nearly as much as on my One X.
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I don't know if this helps but my One X, computer, and new iPad all show banding on the screen capture.
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The second photo looks like a screen capture and I see banding.
Wouldn't that mean it's software related?
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This issue is completely software related. Pointless thread.
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Alright guys, I know what color banding is, and I think I was very clear in my first post that I took a screenshot, and viewed the same screenshot on four different displays. This is not about software, bit depth, or image resolution. It's about whether this display shows more color banding than other displays.
And I do agree that in typical use it's a non-issue.
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Nowhere in OP does it say you used the same picture across all displays.
Regardless, this is a software/image dependent "issue." You can see banding on any display, regardless of whether it's a 20 year old CRT or Samsung's brand new $9000 OLED TV. It's a NON-ISSUE.
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I also think this is a software issue. However, the screen shot the OP posted of his One X looks way worse than mine does. Mine barely has any of the banding and is mostly black all the way through other than at the very bottom. It just doesn't progress upwards like is does. However, if you dont always see the banding on a black screen then its in the software. Take a picture of something that is completely black or do a screen shot of something black and view it in the gallery and if you don't see the banding then this is obviously just the particular uninstall app causing this.
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It is a screen capture, and it just means the display you're viewing it on also has some banding. I see it on my computer display, too, just not nearly as much as on my One X.
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lol SOOOO wrong. Unless you've got your computer display set to 16-bit color or less, it's got NOTHING to do with the display on your computer.
It's 100% software related. It'll likely get fixed. When we got ICS ports onto the DHD there was banding, far worse than these pics, and it was fixed with an update.
Yes, different display types can ACCENTUATE the issue to various levels, but if the software were rendering everything right, you wouldn't see banding, no matter what display your device has.
It's all about the pixels. If the pic has less pixels then the actual screen resolution you will see that the banding is greater, because ICS is made to stretch to all phones that's why it's more noticeable on larger devices.
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Nowhere in OP does it say you used the same picture across all displays.
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Oops, you're correct...I rewrote that first post many times as I tried various things and added/removed information, and I must have left that part out. I edited it for clarity. Thanks.
Regardless, this is a software/image dependent "issue." You can see banding on any display, regardless of whether it's a 20 year old CRT or Samsung's brand new $9000 OLED TV. It's a NON-ISSUE.
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Yes and no. It's image-dependent only in the sense that certain images are more challenging to render correctly without banding. I realize other displays have banding (I know I was clear about that in the FP), but I'm just saying this one seems to have it worse than most.
Look, all I'm trying to do is investigate this one, minor area where my phone's screen seems to have poor performance. If it's only mine, then I'll exchange it. If they're all this way, then fine, it's still the best phone display I've ever seen, and I won't worry about it. My Captivate's display has almost no banding, but I'd be retarded to prefer it over my One's.
All I've been trying to do is determine whether there's something wrong with my screen, or if it's just how they are. And I'm pretty sure it's the latter. And that's fine.
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Oops, you're correct...I rewrote that first post many times as I tried various things and added/removed information, and I must have left that part out. I edited it for clarity. Thanks.
Yes and no. It's image-dependent only in the sense that certain images are more challenging to render correctly without banding. I realize other displays have banding (I know I was clear about that in the FP), but I'm just saying this one seems to have it worse than most.
Look, all I'm trying to do is investigate this one, minor area where my phone's screen seems to have poor performance. If it's only mine, then I'll exchange it. If they're all this way, then fine, it's still the best phone display I've ever seen, and I won't worry about it. My Captivate's display has almost no banding, but I'd be retarded to prefer it over my One's.
All I've been trying to do is determine whether there's something wrong with my screen, or if it's just how they are. And I'm pretty sure it's the latter. And that's fine.
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You do realize the reason that your Captivate shows little to no banding is that the black pixels of the display aren't even on, right? So the Captivates blacks are truer than the One X's, but our white is more true than the Captivate's white(blue). No display is perfect, other than the ones on your face, so why bother stressing over it? If you never had any device to compare to, then you wouldn't have a single thing to have a fit about. There are going to be discrepancies and every display is going to have trouble doing at least one thing or another, nothing's perfect.
On top of that it has to do with the grade of the gradient and how quickly it's changing shades of colors. Say you're making a black to white gradient in 20-30 passes, 20-30 changes basically, it's going to be choppier than one with 100 or whatever. If you don't give it adequate time to make the change, then of course it's going to band. It's just like animating. You can't expect a 15 frame animation to display a full action scene in any bit of smoothness. It takes 100+ frames to do 3 seconds of visually smooth animation.
The banding is LITERAL BANDS of color on the screen.
The galaxy nexus does this as well on settings and a dev fixed it by updating the image used within the settings app. I'll see if I can find it.
Edit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1588613
I have a reasonably simple solution to this issue ...
Maybe I'm wrong, or I don't quite understand the issue, but I think I have a simple solution to determine if banding is really an issue in this regard.
I'm preparing four images, which I will upload in a ZIP file along with instructions.
Give me about 10-15 minutes.
Peter
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Clicking on the link below will download a ZIP file called Banding. Extract the four images and place them anywhere on your device.
http://www.sierrabeyer.com/TempImages/Banding.zip
Now look at each image on your device and decide whether or not you see banding. If you do, then the unit DOES suffer from banding. If not, then it's simply an issue relating to the image used by the developer for the background image of the screen your looking at, in this case, the uninstall screen.
Why can I make this conclusion? Well, all four images are simply 1280x720 pixels, the exact resolution of the ONE X screen. Also, all four images display but ONE colour. Okay, maybe not a colour since one is black (0,0,0), and the other three are shades of grey (32,32,32 and 64,64,64 and 128,128,128).
Here are full size images:
I don't see ANY banding on my HTC ONE X screen. Each image is pure black or grey.
Let me know what you think. Does this test resolve the issue, or am I completely off base?
Peter
Addendum: I have since learned that my reasoning is flawed. If I could remove this post, I would. My apologies to everyone.
I dont have the device yet but ive seen one unboxing video and one comment in another thread about their Nexus 5 having a yellow tinge tint on their device. This is ONE ISSUE that I dont want to have when my device comes and im hoping its not a wide spread problem. So if anyone has the device yet or when you get the device, does your Nexus 5 have any yellowish or any color tint to the display? Thanks. And if there is a future fix please post in this thread.
None on mine. Screen us fantastic with lovely colours.
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No problems here so far...
Nope.
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I think the screen is warmer than e.g. the HTC One's but it is still on point imo.
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I dont have the device yet but ive seen one unboxing video and one comment in another thread about their Nexus 5 having a yellow tinge tint on their device. This is ONE ISSUE that I dont want to have when my device comes and im hoping its not a wide spread problem. So if anyone has the device yet or when you get the device, does your Nexus 5 have any yellowish or any color tint to the display? Thanks. And if there is a future fix please post in this thread.
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Sorry I think that was me, I should rephrase that statement and will find that post now but I will say it here that the N5 screen is warmer than the N4 on Android 4.3 calibrations, comparing side by side my eyes made me think it was a yellow tinge but its simply warmer (good or bad...) the more I look at the Nexus 4 the more I see that the whites are actually blue i.e cooler so thats why it looks so drastically different but I what I should have done is compare it to my desktop monitors which are calibrated to be fairly close to the correct colour points, after looking at these I am happy that the Nexus 5 display is actually very close, I would say make it just a touch cooler and it would be perfect but its actually damn close!
So dont worry its a great display .
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Sorry I think that was me, I should rephrase that statement and will find that post now but I will say it here that the N5 screen is warmer than the N4 on Android 4.3 calibrations, comparing side by side my eyes made me think it was a yellow tinge but its simply warmer (good or bad...) the more I look at the Nexus 4 the more I see that the whites are actually blue i.e cooler so thats why it looks so drastically different but I what I should have done is compare it to my desktop monitors which are calibrated to be fairly close to the correct colour points, after looking at these I am happy that the Nexus 5 display is actually very close, I would say make it just a touch cooler and it would be perfect but its actually damn close!
So dont worry its a great display .
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Your comment actually was the comment that made me alittle worried lol Thanks for clarying though. From what Im reading the screen dosent seem to be a issue. good news :victory:
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Your comment actually was the comment that made me alittle worried lol Thanks for clarying though. From what Im reading the screen dosent seem to be a issue. good news :victory:
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I will go so far as to say it's quite a bit warmer than the N4. To me, it's more natural and I'd rather have it the N5 way, but it looks as it could have been a touch overdone. It's a very warm screen.
At least us color blind people don't have to worry about such trivial things as warmer and cooler. :cyclops:
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I will go so far as to say it's quite a bit warmer than the N4. To me, it's more natural and I'd rather have it the N5 way, but it looks as it could have been a touch overdone. It's a very warm screen.
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What are your thoughts on colour saturation though? Just right, too much or too little?
Some have suggested it's a bit washed out like the nexus 4 was........Your take? (obviously at full brightness etc)
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At least us color blind people don't have to worry about such trivial things as warmer and cooler. :cyclops:
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Now that's attitude. :good:
Got mine today, and it's definitely quite warmer than my Nexus 4 as well. I put my N4 next to my Nexus 10 and N5, and the N4 is definitely more bluish, the N10 (which I always thought was pretty cold) has a tiny bit of a reddish tint, and my N5 is definitely more "yellowish," or warmer. It's not just apparent in whites--greys are also more subdued, and I'm not sure about the full color range.
I'm a bit torn at this point. Really, the N5 looks great as long as I don't compare it to my other Nexus devices. But, I do like colder whites. So, the question becomes: is this how the temp of all N5 screens, or is mine warmer (or yellower) than others? I went through a couple of Nexus 10's that were much, much warmer (more yellow) than the one I ended up with, and so I'm wondering if this isn't screen variability.
Big decision ahead, because there's no N5 stock available. So, I won't really be able to get another one to compare, unless Google has replacement stock available.
Edit: I think the thing I dislike the most about it is the lack of contrast. Devices with this yellowish tint just seem to have much less contrast, which is very apparent in things like Hangout text fields and Chrome address bars. Grrrr...
As I mentioned in another thread:
Within reason, warmer color temperatures are actually considered more accurate. It is possible to have TOO much contrast, which results in losing details in the blacks and whites. It's the sort of thing you don't notice immediately, but significantly impacts the overall quality.
Vincent Law said:
As I mentioned in another thread:
Within reason, warmer color temperatures are actually considered more accurate. It is possible to have TOO much contrast, which results in losing details in the blacks and whites. It's the sort of thing you don't notice immediately, but significantly impacts the overall quality.
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I hear you. But the address bar in a browser should stand out clearly, not blend into the rest of the UI due to a lack of contrast between white and gray (because both have a yellow tint).
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Have been really please with the Z3 since I got it. Performance is great and in general I really like the camera and the range of options however...when I photograph anything that is red or has red in the scene the camera/processing doesn't truly represent the colour and adds a pinkish tinge to the image.
Not sure exactly what is happening here, if the Z3 is producing cooler images than expected but would love to have some feedback from everyone else.
Some images, especially in low light directly on to a white background produce a pinkish spot. I've seen this reported on the Sony forum with some Z3C owners so i'm not sure if this is contrabuting the the problem.
I shot these in manual mode>8mp>auto WB
Anyone else had this issue?
About the Pink Spot - http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperi...peria-z3-camera/td-p/839421?sl=y&sso_no_log=y
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About the Pink Spot - http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperi...peria-z3-camera/td-p/839421?sl=y&sso_no_log=y
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Yeah I'm aware of that issue and have it very slightly in low light situations against a white background. I went back and looked at some camera samples from a couple of reviews for the Z3 and it does appear that when images have content that is red the camera struggles to represent the true colour (i'm not sure how to explain this better). Red appear to be more like magenta or have a pink tint to them.
Am going to go to a couple of stores and see if I can recreate the effect. The issue with the pink spot may of course be adding to the problem i'm having.
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Yeah I'm aware of that issue and have it very slightly in low light situations against a white background. I went back and looked at some camera samples from a couple of reviews for the Z3 and it does appear that when images have content that is red the camera struggles to represent the true colour (i'm not sure how to explain this better). Red appear to be more like magenta or have a pink tint to them.
Am going to go to a couple of stores and see if I can recreate the effect. The issue with the pink spot may of course be adding to the problem i'm having.
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Should be possible to disentangle the two problems fairly easily; take a picture of the red book where the book is only on one side of the photo. Additionally, just take a picture of a grey wall.
Also, try playing with the white balance; using auto isn't really going to help. If there's not a manual option (i've not really played with the camera on my phone much yet) then try a few different settings and see if there's a pattern.
Lollipop brings support for RAW mode so these problems go away then, or are at least partially mitigated (at the cost of a little post-processing, anyway). Even the odd pink blob problem, if it turns out to be hardware related, could be almost entirely handled there.
Been busy but just managed to get back to the issue and photograph the book again.
It seems to be a white balance issue with Superior Auto mode not selecting the correct white balance setting for the image. The first image I took was with Superior Auto mode selected and the second image with Manual mode and white balance set to cloudy. It was an interior shot and not a particularly sunny day outside but the second image with Manual Mode is a better representation of the colour of the book. I even notice this outside and will take try and get some more shots to show the issue.
I'm disappointed that the Superior Auto mode isn't picking the correct balance. The reds appear to have a cool blue feel to them, and I bought the Z3 so I could have a phone with a above average camera on it that I can pull out and capture moment without worrying too much about the settings. Maybe i'm being over critical but it seems to struggle in areas that even my girlfriends iPhone 4s has no problem with.
Darles2012 said:
Been busy but just managed to get back to the issue and photograph the book again.
It seems to be a white balance issue with Superior Auto mode not selecting the correct white balance setting for the image. The first image I took was with Superior Auto mode selected and the second image with Manual mode and white balance set to cloudy. It was an interior shot and not a particularly sunny day outside but the second image with Manual Mode is a better representation of the colour of the book. I even notice this outside and will take try and get some more shots to show the issue.
I'm disappointed that the Superior Auto mode isn't picking the correct balance. The reds appear to have a cool blue feel to them, and I bought the Z3 so I could have a phone with a above average camera on it that I can pull out and capture moment without worrying too much about the settings. Maybe i'm being over critical but it seems to struggle in areas that even my girlfriends iPhone 4s has no problem with.
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I've not experimented with the camera too much. I've taken a few pictures in good light and without too critical an inspection they look fantastic. Your first image below looks as if it might suffer from the `pink dot` problem. You can't really tell because of the colour of the left part of the picture but it does look like it. If you tried that again on a white background perhaps it would be clearer. You could take a picture of a white piece of paper in different modes/white balances and see if there's a problem, and if so a pattern to the problem. If the problem is only in some white balances then it suggests it's not a hardware problem and therefore a software fix could sort it. From what I know, white balance is a software thing where RGB values are biased differently; perhaps there's a bug there. Auto white balance, even on professional cameras, isn't always perfect. I've an EOS400D camera and I tend to shoot in RAW mode (which will be supported in Lollipop) where the white balance selected is not "burnt in" to the image and can be changed losslessly in post production.
I went on a trip to the beach at the weekend and had to bin all my Superior Auto shots as they came out absolutely awful. All of the 20mp manual shots came out great if not a little over exposed on the sun
Try also turning off X-reality as it makes reds look a bit more purple.
I've found manual mode takes great pics and reproduces the colours brilliantly.
Try changing the white balance, manual mode is better, though even I like to just point and shoot. Hopefully auto mode will be fixed in an update.
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I went on a trip to the beach at the weekend and had to bin all my Superior Auto shots as they came out absolutely awful. All of the 20mp manual shots came out great if not a little over exposed on the sun
Try also turning off X-reality as it makes reds look a bit more purple.
I've found manual mode takes great pics and reproduces the colours brilliantly.
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Agreed. It's pretty awful, it's obviously not selecting the correct white balance mode. As you can see from the first pic below...it's ridiculously bad. The second is shot with Manual Mode and it a lot more acurate.
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Try changing the white balance, manual mode is better, though even I like to just point and shoot. Hopefully auto mode will be fixed in an update.
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Yes it is better. I guess i'll have to leave the camera setting on Manual as much as possible and just make a quick WB change before closing the shutter. I'll get in touch with Sony again and raise the issue although last time they just suggested a software repair which didn't really change anything. Like you said, hopefully the can release a software fix although, judging by their response to the pink spot issue I won't be holding my breath.
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Agreed. It's pretty awful, it's obviously not selecting the correct white balance mode. As you can see from the first pic below...it's ridiculously bad. The second is shot with Manual Mode and it a lot more acurate.
Yes it is better. I guess i'll have to leave the camera setting on Manual as much as possible and just make a quick WB change before closing the shutter. I'll get in touch with Sony again and raise the issue although last time they just suggested a software repair which didn't really change anything. Like you said, hopefully the can release a software fix although, judging by their response to the pink spot issue I won't be holding my breath.
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They still won't admit there's an issue until they found a solution so, I hope the Find one, this is my first phone that does that...
There is same issue on my device(46 week). is software or hardware? Does anyone know?
Try turning off image enhancements like x-reality or super vivid, then view image again.
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infinitylook said:
Try turning off image enhancements like x-reality or super vivid, then view image again.
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I tried. but issue keep going.
Also, I took photo in same settings with other Xperia z3.. The red colours always looks more real than my xperia . and i transfer these image my xperia and looks same real.
Camera hardware is faulty i think but tech service says software and Sony will update it. But Sony no say.
Red to Pink issue
I am pretty amazed this one has not been reported by more users. The sonysupport in Sweden is not aware of the issue, and although I send in pictures as well as the actual Xperia Z3 phone - they will still not admit the problem.
here goes. This is most likely an de-bayer problem creating pictures from the RAW sensor. I note that i bright daylight the RED colours gets over exposed in the process - and produces a pink result. I shadows the result is better.
Also note that the preview of the actually camera , probably generated in a different way internally , show more accurate colours than the the photo itself.
This is a good hint to the developers where the problem is.
With Lollipop 5.0 the api:s for RAW is no available. Sony has decided so far to not make them available in the Xperia version of the 5.02 version. But if they did, then 3;rd party developers could control this de.process from the sensor and produce much better pictures.
So hear hear, Sony developers and product managers . you can fix this - If you do, then the Xperia is truly the king of droids
come on!!
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I tried. but issue keep going.
Also, I took photo in same settings with other Xperia z3.. The red colours always looks more real than my xperia . and i transfer these image my xperia and looks same real.
Camera hardware is faulty i think but tech service says software and Sony will update it. But Sony no say.
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I am pretty amazed this one has not been reported by more users.
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I have same issue as well. Picture finder shows nice red colors, but taken pictures are all pink. All image enhancements are off and camera in manual mode - it does not make noticeable improvement at all.
Its a disappointment, especially since phone's camera is reviewed as quite OK.
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Agreed. It's pretty awful, it's obviously not selecting the correct white balance mode. As you can see from the first pic below...it's ridiculously bad. The second is shot with Manual Mode and it a lot more acurate.
Yes it is better. I guess i'll have to leave the camera setting on Manual as much as possible and just make a quick WB change before closing the shutter. I'll get in touch with Sony again and raise the issue although last time they just suggested a software repair which didn't really change anything. Like you said, hopefully the can release a software fix although, judging by their response to the pink spot issue I won't be holding my breath.
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Hey. I'm also facing same issue. My Z3c isnt able to recognize Red color properly.
What exact setting you tried in manual mode to get your 2nd image right??
Same here. I have to set manual mode if I want to take precise pictures
nri_tech1183 said:
Hey. I'm also facing same issue. My Z3c isnt able to recognize Red color properly.
What exact setting you tried in manual mode to get your 2nd image right??
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Nowadays I usually go to manual mode and leave the white ballance set to auto. If the colour still looks off then I can adjust the white balance according to the conditions to get the right shot.
I pretty much never use Superior Auto mode for pictures now which is incredibly frustrating when you want to take a quick shot and you have to change the setting to manual. It's one of the few things that has annoyed me about the device. On some levels it's really good but on others it falls short. I want a device that can tsake great images in auto but that I can adjust and play with if I want.
A lot of new device coming out towards autumn. Am pretty resigned to the fact that i'm going to be trading in the Z3 for something else.
When i try to focus on an object with wide lens the following artifacts appear. Even when i save the picture the halo is still there. Has anyone got similar results or do i have a defective device?
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When i try to focus on an object with wide lens the following artifacts appear. Even when i save the picture the halo is still there. Has anyone got similar results or do i have a defective device?
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I just tried to replicate this with mine, but no "luck" - I don't see this effect...
But then I'm not in as bright surrounding as you seem to be is this effect always visible or only in bright lighting?
Just a thought may be that a lens protector (glass or plastic) could have such an effect....
I could only reproduce it on the beach scenery. Ill post a video to show you exactly how its reproduced
By the way no lens protector is installed.
Gif attached shows what my problem is.
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Gif attached shows what my problem is.
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Let's hope the woman in the GIF doesn't read and interprete that the way only women are able to interprete statements.
I have no idea about the cause - but I believe you still deserve an answer.
Questions: Where does the effect occur? Only in the viewfinder and/or in the finished picture? (I read your first post, still wish to make sure I got everything right.)
Does it happen with still photos or videos?
Does it also happen if you hold the phone horizontally (landscape)?
Which firmware version?
I tried to reproduce that fault although I had no ocean at hand - but never succeeded to achieve that effect.
Must be a software problem, maybe a firmware update solves it. Or a hard reset - but I don't like suggesting the typical manufacturer's helpdesk suggestion if they haven't got any clue but wish to get rid of the customer quickly.
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Let's hope the woman in the GIF doesn't read and interprete that the way only women are able to interprete statements.
I have no idea about the cause - but I believe you still deserve an answer.
Questions: Where does the effect occur? Only in the viewfinder and/or in the finished picture? (I read your first post, still wish to make sure I got everything right.)
Does it happen with still photos or videos?
Does it also happen if you hold the phone horizontally (landscape)?
Which firmware version?
I tried to reproduce that fault although I had no ocean at hand - but never succeeded to achieve that effect.
Must be a software problem, maybe a firmware update solves it. Or a hard reset - but I don't like suggesting the typical manufacturer's helpdesk suggestion if they haven't got any clue but wish to get rid of the customer quickly.
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Both viewfinder and finished picture. I could only reproduce it when the background was a beach only with wide lens. Ill try testing when the background is flat maybe in a field or something. I think thats the trigger with the halos. Didnt try it on video though. Firmware wise am on . 121.
And my woman should stay away from xda. For my sake
Hello once more!
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Both viewfinder and finished picture. I could only reproduce it when the background was a beach only with wide lens. Ill try testing when the background is flat maybe in a field or something. I think thats the trigger with the halos.
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Due to the lower color depth, your GIF shows "banding", larger areas of the same color/brightness. Interestingly, it's one of these "bands" with gets replaced by white.
And if this phenomenon only occurs with a beach scene, it might be small areas of extreme brightness (like sun reflections in the water) triggering a software fault.
At least that's my guess. And that's why I mentioned I had no ocean at hand for trying.
Nokia's N8 had a similar, but not identical problem: If there were tiny spots of extreme brightness in a scene, the software rendered white circles or halos around that spots. Much smaller and perfectly circular, also the circles were solid white, not "just" rings like in your photos.
Maybe it's a similar thing with the P40 Pro.
The good news: It's a software problem which can be solved.
Didnt try it on video though. Firmware wise am on . 121.
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Same with me. There's a lot of nuisances with the camera software, especially with the real bad, non-practical UI, but overall the P40 Pro really tops all of it's competition.
Let's just hope Huawei gets aware of the problems, soon.
And my woman should stay away from xda. For my sake
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There's no other living beings on earth being perfectly able to interprete nice words as bad words like women.
That's my understanding too. Ultra bright areas confuse the software. I reported it to their support team. Maybe there will be a fix. Am sure if more people will encounter it as soon as they go to a beach it will be reported and hopefully we get a fix. Wide lens on such scenery is a must anyways.
. 131 resolved this issue. No more artifacts
The punch-hole's circumference is noticeably jagged. Please zoom in on the image attached. You'll see that the boundary of the punch-hole circle is not smooth. Apologies if the image does not convey my point. You may check you own device's punch-hole on full brightness, on a white background to get the idea.
I'd like to know if this is the case with every unit of Pixel 6a or if this is normal.
There's also some very tiny amount of green-tint/rainbow-ish effect around some part of the circumference of the punch-hole, although it is barely visible and is probably just my eyes' fault.
Thanks in advance.
Are you talking about the pixels themselves on the display?
Pixels are square. The punch hole is a circle, so it's going to look like that if you zoom in enough.
We don't need no stinking laser...
Lol it does look a bit crude but then again I never scrutinize my Samsung's stupid hole that closely.
Mine looks fine and so does yours. Yeah if blow up your macro shot to 3x can see maybe not laser perfect but the circle is also cutting over pixels, so that's to be expected. I don't notice any rainbowing on mine
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Are you talking about the pixels themselves on the display?
Pixels are square. The punch hole is a circle, so it's going to look like that if you zoom in enough.
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Thanks for the reply. I was referring to the boundary/border/circumference of the black punch-hole. I suppose I was being too critical. From a normal distance it all seems fine.
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We don't need no stinking laser...
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Lol it does look a bit crude but then again I never scrutinize my Samsung's stupid hole that closely.
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Yeap, I was probably being a little too OCD with the whole thing. Thanks for the reply though.
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Mine looks fine and so does yours. Yeah if blow up your macro shot to 3x can see maybe not laser perfect but the circle is also cutting over pixels, so that's to be expected. I don't notice any rainbowing on minht
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True, true. It does look okay from a normal distance.
Rishabh.KS said:
Yeap, I was probably being a little too OCD with the whole thing. Thanks for the reply though.
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Run Screen Test to determine the color integrity of the pixels around the hole. Colors should be uniform. I always test the display on a new phone and as it ages.
Thanks for the response. I might run a screen test, although the screen seems perfectly fine as it is from average working distances. I was probably being way too ocd about the whole issue.
blackhawk said:
Run Screen Test to determine the color integrity of the pixels around the hole. Colors should be uniform. I always test the display on a new phone and as it ages.
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Thanks for the response. I might run a screen test, although the screen seems perfectly fine as it is from average working distances. I was probably being way too ocd about the whole issue.
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Thanks for the response. I might run a screen test, although the screen seems perfectly fine as it is from average working distances. I was probably being way too ocd about the whole issue.
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An interesting thread. The flashing proximity sensor threads were common a while back. One or two flashing pixels on phone calls drove some Samsung users mad. Never even notice it before
Always a good idea to run Screen Test to help spot display issues especially on a new device or one that's under warranty.
I test my 3yo N10+ every month or two. It's bright so don't linger too long when doing it.
Any display pixel anomalies are easy to spot.
Any wrong color pixels at the hole would confirm you suspicions. With 20/10 vision and no magnification though the hole should seem smooth, at least on a N10+.
blackhawk said:
An interesting thread. The flashing proximity sensor threads were common a while back. One or two flashing pixels on phone calls drove some Samsung users mad. Never even notice it before
Always a good idea to run Screen Test to help spot display issues especially on a new device or one that's under warranty.
I test my 3yo N10+ every month or two. It's bright so don't linger too long when doing it.
Any display pixel anomalies are easy to spot.
Any wrong color pixels at the hole would confirm you suspicions. With 20/10 vision and no magnification though the hole should seem smooth, at least on a N10+.
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I'm kinda new to all this. It'd be great if you could provide any suggestions regarding how to go about doing a screen test, where to start, any apps in particular, etc. Thanks.
Rishabh.KS said:
I'm kinda new to all this. It'd be great if you could provide any suggestions regarding how to go about doing a screen test, where to start, any apps in particular, etc. Thanks.
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Not sure if this will run on 12 but it's on Playstore. It's what I use.