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After quite a bit of research into which headsets were the most comfortable, had the best sound quality and decent autonomy I chose the Sony DRBT50, found a seller on Ebay and ordered them...
Now, to make a long story a little shorter let's just say that they seem to have gotten lost somewhere between here and Germany and I'm going to be given a refund (thank [insert your divinity here] I took the insurance) and the seller has told me that if he was in my shoes, he wouldn't buy a Bluetooth headset as they don't offer anywhere near the same sound quality as a decent wired pair...
He admitted to only having tried them with Bluetooth dongles and not devices with built-in Bluetooth like the Diamond so (here comes my question) has anyone here had any experience with these headphones in particular or any information about Bluetooth headsets in general to share with me? If you don't think that Bluetooth can provide good sound dynamics which are the best wired headphones in a similar price range (around 150)?
Thanks
---I know that some people have problems with music skipping even with wired headphones but I thankfully don't have this problem (so I don't need warning about this issue)---
NeoGreendawg said:
After quite a bit of research into which headsets were the most comfortable, had the best sound quality and decent autonomy I chose the Sony DRBT50, found a seller on Ebay and ordered them...
Now, to make a long story a little shorter let's just say that they seem to have gotten lost somewhere between here and Germany and I'm going to be given a refund (thank [insert your divinity here] I took the insurance) and the seller has told me that if he was in my shoes, he wouldn't buy a Bluetooth headset as they don't offer anywhere near the same sound quality as a decent wired pair...
He admitted to only having tried them with Bluetooth dongles and not devices with built-in Bluetooth like the Diamond so (here comes my question) has anyone here had any experience with these headphones in particular or any information about Bluetooth headsets in general to share with me? If you don't think that Bluetooth can provide good sound dynamics which are the best wired headphones in a similar price range (around 150)?
Thanks
---I know that some people have problems with music skipping even with wired headphones but I thankfully don't have this problem (so I don't need warning about this issue)---
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I am a bluetooth stereo junkie and I have bought a lot of sony erricson bluetooth stereo.I liked DRBT50 on pics, but when I used them I felt they are really very heavy and I dint like them.Out of lot of stereos I bought, I think the best one I though is DRBT22 , which is lightweight and absolutely nice stereo.I have also used DS980, but for some reason , I just have them packed.Even those stereo sound is also good, but the battery life is only 4/5 hrs, so you have to recharge them regularly.But DRBT22 bass and trebles are really good and I like them , and also the battery life is 10 hrs which is very good. I suggest you for DS980 or DRBT22 depending on what you like.Similar to BT22, there is also DRBT21, which looks good , as you can wear from behind the neck, but I havent tried those.
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I never got round to answering this...
After over a month I actually ended up receiving the headset.
The battery life is amazing and the reception's pretty good too. I can easily go about ten fifteen meters away from my phone without the signal starting to break up. Basses are good but the mids are a little lacking. The cups have a lot of padding so they're quite comfortable but not perfect as they are much smaller than I'd imagined (no I don't have big ears).
Overall, it's a decent headset that I can happily wear when taking the dog for a walk but I wouldn't recommend them to an audiophile.
If anyone wants any more details about the headset feel free to ask.
NeoGreendawg said:
I never got round to answering this...
After over a month I actually ended up receiving the headset.
The battery life is amazing and the reception's pretty good too. I can easily go about ten fifteen meters away from my phone without the signal starting to break up. Basses are good but the mids are a little lacking. The cups have a lot of padding so they're quite comfortable but not perfect as they are much smaller than I'd imagined (no I don't have big ears).
Overall, it's a decent headset that I can happily wear when taking the dog for a walk but I wouldn't recommend them to an audiophile.
If anyone wants any more details about the headset feel free to ask.
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try this to improve the sound .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=494220
Ok guys I really need your help for this one, I'm a big fan of sense, just because of the camera and when it snows it shows the little snowflakes on the screen :3 along with the useful features it provides. The thing that kills me a little on the inside is the equalizer built in all the sense ROM's. They all suck, therefore I am in love with MIUI right now because of their built in equalizer and all the eye candy it provides. The background to this was that I bought a pair of over the ear headphones from best buy for like 20 dollars and they looked awesome but were silent, I used an equalizer to enhance the sound and suddenly fell in love with the very pair of headphones that I am currently using (highly recommend you buying it if you toy with equalizers). I've tried everything in the market and nothing has satisfied my audiophilific ears. I.E.: PowerAmp, other Android equalizers, etc. Mainly with the way they work. I was wondering if you could participate in what equalizers you use (if you do).
I liked the DSP Equalizer that came with CM7. I'm surprised you didn't like the equalizer that comes with PowerAMP. That one is pretty robust with a lot of presets. Have you tried moving the preamp knob? It's the leftmost one.
Other than that, I would recommend you check out the headphones thread somewhere in the accessories section, to see what you should get next after you feel like you need to "step up" in your headphones game.
I don't like PowerAmp just because it annoys me, when you plug in your headphones it plays music by itself and other stuff that I forget. As for headphones, I bought a pair of SR80i's and I love them but I never bring it to the gym or anywhere else because I don't want to break them. As for DSP. I love it too and is the reason why I like CM7/AOSP.
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I don't like PowerAmp just because it annoys me, when you plug in your headphones it plays music by itself and other stuff that I forget.
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Stuff like that can be turned off from the Settings menu, you know.
I can't say that I'm a big fan of sense (which is why I went with cm7), but how much of a difference will the equalizer make?
You could potentially amplify the sound of your headphones by x2.35% which in my case is equal to more slightly expensive headphones.
Coming from the Captivate, I was used to the excellent sound quality it provided with it's Wolfson WM8994 DAC processor.
Sadly, I can't say the same for the Skyrocket. The floor noise and the whining from CPU cycles is downright annoying on quieter songs with sensitive IEMs. Audio sounds mushy, more focused to lower end of the spectrum with more bass (and sloppy bass at that), Mid-Bass wasn't any better. Overall, lacks clarity and definition. In general, I've heard better sound come out of cheapy chinese mp3 players.
On the other hand, the Captivate is an EXCELLENT music player (Audiophile quality). I used it with my headphone amp and my Senn HD-600s and it was my primary source.
If you ever get a chance to listen to a Galaxy S device with WM8994 DAC w/ Voodoo enabled. 128x oversampling on a nice pair of cans and then to the Skyrocket, you'll know what I'm talking about.
Samsung, I'm Very disappointed. I know the average consumer doesn't care and wouldn't care but how could you DOWNGRADE??? How could you make a multi-media product and are not able to isolate the (AT THE MINIMUM) interference from the cpu!!! The whines, the clicks, the hissing, is downright ANNOYING and screams CHEAPNESS!
Glad I kept my Captivate, atleast it's serving me well as a source player.
I've noticed the bad sound as well
Been doing some looking around and seems like same issues can be found in the Galaxy S II....pretty much throughout the whole GSII lineup.
More than likely due to the Yamaha chip Samsung decided to go with.
Yeah I noticed that too, it was there with my old Xperia X10 and seems worse with the Skyrocket. Its not much of an issue to me since I listen to bassy music but it gets annoying when I listen to Trance during low bass intervals. All you hear is hisssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss ssssss
Only workaround is bluetooth
DSP manager in ics themed roms helps. The Voodoo developer just released voodoo louder for the galaxy s II but the hd and lte versions are not supported. Hopefully he will get around to it since it uses the same yamaha processor as the gsII, just a different processor. Why did Samsung have to make so many changes to the same lineup...
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Personally i dont see supercurio doing anything mod wise for this phone.... i have asked before.
his rebuttle was its not exynos so no go.
plain and simple, maybe if he some how got the device i could see that.
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Personally i dont see supercurio doing anything mod wise for this phone.... i have asked before.
his rebuttle was its not exynos so no go.
plain and simple, maybe if he some how got the device i could see that.
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He has the T-Mo SGS II, which has the same chip set.
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I would agree for the most part with the stock mp3 player.
That said I installed poweramp and on my HDJ-500 headphones from pioneer it sounds incredible.
Kills my old HTC Incredible S
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He has the T-Mo SGS II, which has the same chip set.
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power amp improves the sound and cleared up most of my complain too.
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Yeah. This is where Samsung Galaxy line really sucks at. It is not unbearable for casually listening on the go. I used to consider myself an audiophile. But the difference is that I love my Galaxy S2 over my priority for audio fidelity.
If you really wanted to get lost in your music by sitting in a dark, silent room, and really have nothing between you and your visualization of music, this is absolutely not the device to do it with. The iPhone wasn't the perfect device for this either, but at least the iPhone can seemingly play noise free music, unlike the Galaxys.
It sounds like it is raining outside and a tea kettle has reached boiling point from a far but audible distance.
I think mp3 players in general, including the iPod and iPhone, have made me lose my love for music. Music feels like it lacks soul. It is probably because the soul moving subtle near inaudible parts of music has been filtered out for us by data saving codecs.
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Yeah. This is where Samsung Galaxy line really sucks at. It is not unbearable for casually listening on the go. I used to consider myself an audiophile. But the difference is that I love my Galaxy S2 over my priority for audio fidelity.
If you really wanted to get lost in your music by sitting in a dark, silent room, and really have nothing between you and your visualization of music, this is absolutely not the device to do it with. The iPhone wasn't the perfect device for this either, but at least the iPhone can seemingly play noise free music, unlike the Galaxys.
It sounds like it is raining outside and a tea kettle has reached boiling point from a far but audible distance.
I think mp3 players in general, including the iPod and iPhone, have made me lose my love for music. Music feels like it lacks soul. It is probably because the soul moving subtle near inaudible parts of music has been filtered out for us by data saving codecs.
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Haven't heard the original Galaxy S series with Voodoo Sound, have you?
Supercurio (probably the biggest audiophile of all audiophiles) made new sound drivers for the Galaxy S series, that basically make it the best sound chip in the market (Wolfson Microelectronics FTW).
It bests anything, including the iPhone, without a problem.
Headphones, etc make a big difference. I'll be ordering something from headroom, http://www.headphone.com/index.php but, I'm not spending a ridiculous amount of money.
Going with the different players and DSP manager just masks the problem by using eq at the software level. The floor noise and cycle whine is a hardware caused issue, a poorly designed system where the headphones/codec are not shielded well.
It's not just the floor noise and whining. Overall the DAC lacks substance. sounds are muffled, There's no definition in the mid bass. upper spectrum lacks detail etc etc.
You'd never know and hear this unless you hear a GOOD source with a good DAC first.
MiMart, headphones do make a difference, obviously. My senns HD-600s are one of the best out there. But it'll only perform as good as the power/source you provide it.
Sensitives IEMs don't stand a chance on this phone in my opinion. Especially something isolated and sensitive like the Etymotic er6i's.
I'm just looking for something better than craptastic in ear buds the phone came with. Agreed software, and good headphones can only do so much with a so so quality audio.
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Haven't heard the original Galaxy S series with Voodoo Sound, have you?
Supercurio (probably the biggest audiophile of all audiophiles) made new sound drivers for the Galaxy S series, that basically make it the best sound chip in the market (Wolfson Microelectronics FTW).
It bests anything, including the iPhone, without a problem.
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You beat me to it! My Captivate with Voodoo Sound was the bomb. When I got the Skyrocket I compared the two and the Captivate killed it. Used it as a WiFi media player for a few weeks and then needed money so I sold it. Wish I kept it!
I've heard no Voodoo coming for the Skyrocket. Thank you Yamaha chip set!
The more I listen with the included ear buds, the more I find the audio is lacking. I've tried multiple music players, with the same song (flac) with different setting for the eq all with the same lack luster results. I want to get better head phones, not sure if it is worth the money to spend a bit of $100 or not.
Beside the inclusion of the LTE, i believe samsung has cheapened out A LOT on this phone. A lot of people are experiencing screen issues with this model (mine included and i returned it for a different one that still has similar problems) The camera while fine in an areas that are well lit, is utterly worthless in the dark. Even my old SE k800i had better optics in the dim settings than this pos. My microUSB cable has even failed.. i mean wtf how does that fail!? it barely charges and when you connect the phone to the computer, neither devices recognizes each other. When I change the cable for my old SE microusb connect everything works fine.
I cannot recommend this phone to anyone. As soon as there are other LTE devices out there im going to book it.
I haven't owned a Galaxy S series phone before the SkyRocket, so I can't compare. I will, however, say that the sound quality out of the SkyRocket is... mediocre at best and pretty bad at worst. That said, if I want ideal sound quality why would I be using a 3.5mm stereo jack? I'll be using digital signals to get it as close to the amp as I can, and that means bypassing all of the parts of this device that are less than stellar.
Bluetooth, in this case, is what we want. A Google search for A2DP enabled bluetooth stereo adapters turns up plenty of options for those that want to go that route.
Sure the SkyRocket could have used better components. But seriously, why complain? For casual listening it is more than enough, and for premium listening I wouldn't touch a 3.5mm stereo jack if you paid me.
ADDITION: You can also give the audio output quality over MHL/HDMI a try. Not sure what pathways that goes through, but it may provide better quality than the stereo-mini jack.
Bought s8+ on the 6th, no problems till I played music while playing a game. No game in particular, they all do it. I'm a spotify user, enter an app and my volume decreases not by volume by button but physically, I have to maximize my volume to get back the sound I had before entering the application. Otherwise it's far too quiet. Not sure if a bug but there's no option to turn this off. Irritating. Anyone else know how to turn off?
I use spotify and other music apps but my sound it low with any headphones have volume full to max aswell
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I use spotify and other music apps but my sound it low with any headphones have volume full to max aswell
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I have the same problem. Don't think there's anything to be done about it, the DAC inside the phone is just not that good. Pretty disappointing to be honest.
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I have the same problem. Don't think there's anything to be done about it, the DAC inside the phone is just not that good. Pretty disappointing to be honest.
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Sound stage is highly subjective. No two individuals will enjoy the same music genre nor the way its reproduced. Some listeners prefer heavy 'boom boom' base while others enjoy a 'bright higher pitched' overall tone, then there's the billions in between those extremes.
One has to be realistic with a mobile phone that performs so many tasks. We read an awful lot about the camera, got to the point where many look at the camera before they even consider signal strength etc? No mobile can, nor should, match a DSLR. Same with the sound reproduction. One cannot compare the quality of sound against a dedicated high res player like the Astel&Kern costing 3k or similar stand alone mobile players. It has to be a question of compromise.
I never use the camera. I do listen to music an awful lot that is why I have spent many thousands of € buying various dedicated high res players. Problem is obvious. Summer day in shorts who wants to carry an DSLR, Dedicated Digital audio player and a mobile phone?
The S8+ sounds fine when paired with decent head phones either on ear or over ear plus ear buds. Many are enjoying the AKG developed ear buds that came with the mobile. I DON'T like the AKG ear buds, that is personal taste though.
Non the less considering the S8+ does so many things so well I cannot fault its sound reproduction considering its a mobile phone
If you desire a true hifidelity portable sound then you are going to have to dig very deep into your pockets. Putting that proposition to one side the S8+ can produce a very acceptable sound for the masses including myself who is a hifi junkie.
Suggestion. Try a number of different head gear ranging from ear buds to on ear head phones. OBVIOUSLY when using the on ear or around ear head phones volume will be affected as the S8+ is not designed to power such head sets even though it does a bloomin good job! When using ear buds you can achieve a high volume. Bluetooth are another option though sound quality does degrade accordingly.
So, all in all its compromise but Samsung has balanced the equation rather well. Again personal taste will always be a major factor eg, I don't enjoy the sound stage LG mobiles produce even though many people do. If you are looking for an exceptional sound stage from a mobile phone try out the Sony range, they should be good being the masters of portable hifi from the off. I enjoy both the Sony and Samsung sound reproduction but give the edge to Sony on most occasions.
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ynrozturk said:
I have the same problem. Don't think there's anything to be done about it, the DAC inside the phone is just not that good. Pretty disappointing to be honest.
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Are you on the Exynos version as well? Maybe it's an Exynos problem, my Snapdragon S8+ has no problem running my Sennheiser HD700's, plenty loud at half volume. (Sounds pretty good too I might add)
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Bought s8+ on the 6th, no problems till I played music while playing a game. No game in particular, they all do it. I'm a spotify user, enter an app and my volume decreases not by volume by button but physically, I have to maximize my volume to get back the sound I had before entering the application. Otherwise it's far too quiet. Not sure if a bug but there's no option to turn this off. Irritating. Anyone else know how to turn off?
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I had the same problem on my Oneplus 3T so I do not think it is hardware related. (I was playing pokemon GO while listening to music)
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Are you on the Exynos version as well? Maybe it's an Exynos problem, my Snapdragon S8+ has no problem running my Sennheiser HD700's, plenty loud at half volume. (Sounds pretty good too I might add)
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Yep, Exynos version.
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Ryland Johnson said:
Sound stage is highly subjective. No two individuals will enjoy the same music genre nor the way its reproduced. Some listeners prefer heavy 'boom boom' base while others enjoy a 'bright higher pitched' overall tone, then there's the billions in between those extremes.
One has to be realistic with a mobile phone that performs so many tasks. We read an awful lot about the camera, got to the point where many look at the camera before they even consider signal strength etc? No mobile can, nor should, match a DSLR. Same with the sound reproduction. One cannot compare the quality of sound against a dedicated high res player like the Astel&Kern costing 3k or similar stand alone mobile players. It has to be a question of compromise.
I never use the camera. I do listen to music an awful lot that is why I have spent many thousands of € buying various dedicated high res players. Problem is obvious. Summer day in shorts who wants to carry an DSLR, Dedicated Digital audio player and a mobile phone?
The S8+ sounds fine when paired with decent head phones either on ear or over ear plus ear buds. Many are enjoying the AKG developed ear buds that came with the mobile. I DON'T like the AKG ear buds, that is personal taste though.
Non the less considering the S8+ does so many things so well I cannot fault its sound reproduction considering its a mobile phone
If you desire a true hifidelity portable sound then you are going to have to dig very deep into your pockets. Putting that proposition to one side the S8+ can produce a very acceptable sound for the masses including myself who is a hifi junkie.
Suggestion. Try a number of different head gear ranging from ear buds to on ear head phones. OBVIOUSLY when using the on ear or around ear head phones volume will be affected as the S8+ is not designed to power such head sets even though it does a bloomin good job! When using ear buds you can achieve a high volume. Bluetooth are another option though sound quality does degrade accordingly.
So, all in all its compromise but Samsung has balanced the equation rather well. Again personal taste will always be a major factor eg, I don't enjoy the sound stage LG mobiles produce even though many people do. If you are looking for an exceptional sound stage from a mobile phone try out the Sony range, they should be good being the masters of portable hifi from the off. I enjoy both the Sony and Samsung sound reproduction but give the edge to Sony on most occasions.
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Thanks for your input. I know where you're coming from because I think the same. I'm a musician so audio is kind of a big part of my life. I don't buy a phone expecting it to have the power of my DAC's or amps at home - but I want it to be decent at least. The S8's isn't decent - far from it. I've thrown a number of headphones and IEM's at it and it still performs poorly - because the DAC inside is poor. It really is that quite simple. I don't expect it to run my Beyerdynamic T1's or anything, lol. But I do expect it to run my IEM Shure or Sennheisers at least decently, which it doesn't.
I also agree about the camera part. While I do appreciate a good camera in my phone, when I go out to take pictures I would much rather have my Sony A7RII with me, along with some Zeiss glass.
Ironic that once it was the Exynos versions (Note 3) that had premium audio (Wolfson DAC) while the Snapdragon phones languished. Now it seems it's the exact opposite, lots of complaints from the Exynos crowd and nothing but praise from the Snapdragon set. I personally have the US ATT version (SD835 + Aqstic DAC) and the sound quality is superb, both with full custom Shure SE-535Vs and Sennheiser HD-700s (directly driven from the phone). Definitely a step up from my S7E.
For reference I'm also a musician with a pretty good idea of what real instruments sound like (9ft Concert Grand in my living room).
What audio formats does the galaxy S8+ supports? I’m not talking about Audio Playback Format. I’m asking about Quality for instant is High-Resolution Audio same as PCM or DSD: DSD 64 / 128 can someone point or explain what all this means ?
Also I just found out about the Sony has a high res player is out on the market only a few days ago..
How does the galaxy S8+ compete with Sony high res audio player? Please see link Sony high res audio player
Other thing what would be the best headphones, or over the ear phones to experience the best audio quality on the S8+ ? At the moment I’m using Bose QC35 They are a decent pair of over the ear headphones, but of course not the best.
They do have a pretty awesome sound signature, but I’m sure there must be better out there, Sony Bluetooth headphones just released how much would I benefit using these with the S8+ As I have checked the Samsung website they don’t really tell you much on the specs link for Sony WH-1000XM2 Thanks peeps
Mods, i hope this isn’t in the wrong section. Thanks
I use Audio-Technica ATH-R70X, They sound great with lossless content, and the output jack on the phone supplies plenty of power to push them. With an external amp you may have better results, but I cant tell. I cant imagine that the S8+ wouldn't playback high quality audio, as long as your source material is high quality. As for the specs, not a clue... sorry!
N1NJATH3ORY said:
What audio formats does the galaxy S8+ supports? I’m not talking about Audio Playback Format. I’m asking about Quality for instant is High-Resolution Audio same as PCM or DSD: DSD 64 / 128 can someone point or explain what all this means ?
Also I just found out about the Sony has a high res player is out on the market only a few days ago..
How does the galaxy S8+ compete with Sony high res audio player? Please see link Sony high res audio player
Other thing what would be the best headphones, or over the ear phones to experience the best audio quality on the S8+ ? At the moment I’m using Bose QC35 They are a decent pair of over the ear headphones, but of course not the best.
They do have a pretty awesome sound signature, but I’m sure there must be better out there, Sony Bluetooth headphones just released how much would I benefit using these with the S8+ As I have checked the Samsung website they don’t really tell you much on the specs link for Sony WH-1000XM2 Thanks peeps
Mods, i hope this isn’t in the wrong section. Thanks
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Some facts that might help with your decision:
* The part of your body that actually pics up sound is tuned to convert sound waves from 20Hz-20,000Hz (cycles per second) to electrical signals your brain can process.
* Digital music is converted from analog by chopping up the signal in Time and Amplitude (Sample Rate and Bit Depth). CD's and most other digital music Sample the Analog waveform 44,100 times a second and have 65534 (16-bit signed) possible amplitude levels per sample.
* You can lossless convert the 16-bit 44.1KHz signal back to a analog waveform that has a SNR of 98dB and a frequency range of 0-22,050Hz.
* It is very unlikely you are able to hear past 18KHz by the time you're in your 30's
* Passing Ultrasonic's into a driver (speaker) can at best not provide any advantage other than wasted amplifier power and at worst degrade the parts of the audible spectrum.
* High quality compressed music (AAC, OPUS, MP3, DD, DTS, Etc.) is in-distinguishable from the original digitized source because of the way our auditory system works (Psychoacoustics). - While I'd love to get into reasons why it is past my current knowledge level. But you can start here if you want to dive in deeper https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychoacoustics
"High-Res" audio is marketing.
The Galaxy S8's DAC+AMP is average, but as long as you're not driving a pair of high impedance headphones or have the volume cranked to the max it should be fine. - https://www.devicespecifications.com/en/editor-review/7e2439/12
As for headphones no one can tell you what you will like, but I've been regularly impressed by The Wirecutter's recommendations on speakers and headphones. They do measurements and also have a group of people listen to each model, so you're not getting a single persons opinion - http://thewirecutter.com/leaderboard/headphones/
Make sure to scroll down; what looks like ad's (because they have prices at the bottom) are actually articles with recommended headphones and also alternatives.
You really can't expect any kind of audiophile experience without a version of Viper4android.
Quad5Ny said:
Some facts that might help with your decision:
* The part of your body that actually pics up sound is tuned to convert sound waves from 20Hz-20,000Hz (cycles per second) to electrical signals your brain can process.
* Digital music is converted from analog by chopping up the signal in Time and Amplitude (Sample Rate and Bit Depth). CD's and most other digital music Sample the Analog waveform 44,100 times a second and have 65534 (16-bit signed) possible amplitude levels per sample.
* You can lossless convert the 16-bit 44.1KHz signal back to a analog waveform that has a SNR of 98dB and a frequency range of 0-22,050Hz.
* It is very unlikely you are able to hear past 18KHz by the time you're in your 30's
* Passing Ultrasonic's into a driver (speaker) can at best not provide any advantage other than wasted amplifier power and at worst degrade the parts of the audible spectrum.
* High quality compressed music (AAC, OPUS, MP3, DD, DTS, Etc.) is in-distinguishable from the original digitized source because of the way our auditory system works (Psychoacoustics). - While I'd love to get into reasons why it is past my current knowledge level. But you can start here if you want to dive in deeper https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychoacoustics
"High-Res" audio is marketing.
The Galaxy S8's DAC+AMP is average, but as long as you're not driving a pair of high impedance headphones or have the volume cranked to the max it should be fine. - https://www.devicespecifications.com/en/editor-review/7e2439/12
As for headphones no one can tell you what you will like, but I've been regularly impressed by The Wirecutter's recommendations on speakers and headphones. They do measurements and also have a group of people listen to each model, so you're not getting a single persons opinion - http://thewirecutter.com/leaderboard/headphones/
Make sure to scroll down; what looks like ad's (because they have prices at the bottom) are actually articles with recommended headphones and also alternatives.
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I've compared a lot in the $100-$400 range and the ones that came out on top for me were:
1. Meze 99 CLASSICS My fav https://www.mezeaudio.com/collections/all/products/meze-99-classics-walnut-silver-wood-headphones
2. ATH-MSR7
3.ATH-M50x
vibrantliker said:
I've compared a lot in the $100-$400 range and the ones that came out on top for me were:
1. Meze 99 CLASSICS My fav https://www.mezeaudio.com/collections/all/products/meze-99-classics-walnut-silver-wood-headphones
2. ATH-MSR7
3.ATH-M50x
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Going by the frequency response graphs:
Meze 99 Classics - They will sound warm (especially female vocals), average sound stage, while still having a crisp high end.
ATH-MSR7 - Not as warm, larger sound stage, high end will have more sparkle and the "I can feel it" part of bass will be more pronounced.
From personal experience:
ATH-M50x - Meh. They can sound great if calibrated, but I never cared for them otherwise.
For best quality, use a lossless formats such as WAV or FLAC but check first that they are not upsampled mp3s. If you want to save space and use mp3 format, look for a bitrate of 256kbps+ (ideally 320kbps)
vibrantliker said:
You really can't expect any kind of audiophile experience without a version of Viper4android.
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True but its not worth rooting yet the S8+ just for V4A!
N1NJATH3ORY said:
True but its not worth rooting yet the S8+ just for V4A!
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Why not?
vibrantliker said:
Why not?
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Here see this thread why I choose not to root https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8+/help/root-root-t3625793
You can't expect any kind of audiophile experience without actual stereo equipment high end speakers, Highs, Mids, Full range, and a bottom firing sub, biamped, triamped, and a center spaced sub, and then every speaker has to be tuned to your specific space in a deadened room. So if that is the kind of audiophile sound you want from your phone its just not going to happen. This phone sounds better than any other that I have ever owned or heard. Viper audio is crap, its just a front end for ALSA to make use of very limited power to make the tiny speakers in ear buds or over the ear anything go BOOM just a bit more. Don't waste your money on stupid high end headphones the biggest difference between most of them is the amount of stuffing they put in them to keep them from rattling, and please never ever spend more than 20 bucks for ear buds. I have a set of $18 dollar ear buds that I bought at a flying-J truck stop that sound and preform just as well as my $300 dollar Bose Bluetooth ear buds...I paid $280 for a name. (not knocking Bose I love their home audio stuff, but they got me with the ear buds) Lossless files are the way to go for sure, and if you were to use this phone as the music provider for a stereo system, the sound you would want coming out of it (because you are using it as a preamp) would be dead flat..... The Same thing goes for your car or home stereo using the Bluetooth or a direct line out of the phone into a stereo system....the sound coming out of the phone should be flat or you are EQ'ing an EQ and you are defeating the purpose of the equalizer in the stereo, you are essentially feeding the stereo digital noise, (just try it, trust me) (you wont be sorry). Let the stereo do the work let the phone be the high end preamp and it shouldn't be turned up more than half way. Oh and just so you know in not some wind bag ,, I'm giving you practical, useful, WORKING, knowledge. I have been a working Professional Musician for over 30 years. In and out of studios recording,,,,,AND many many many hundreds of shows and sound issues that have been dealt with. So take it for what its worth... and now i'm going to go loose myself with some with some Pink Floyd and Mozart..............Peace..
malebornin69 said:
You can't expect any kind of audiophile experience without actual stereo equipment high end speakers, Highs, Mids, Full range, and a bottom firing sub, biamped, triamped, and a center spaced sub, and then every speaker has to be tuned to your specific space in a deadened room. So if that is the kind of audiophile sound you want from your phone its just not going to happen. This phone sounds better than any other that I have ever owned or heard. Viper audio is crap, its just a front end for ALSA to make use of very limited power to make the tiny speakers in ear buds or over the ear anything go BOOM just a bit more. Don't waste your money on stupid high end headphones the biggest difference between most of them is the amount of stuffing they put in them to keep them from rattling, and please never ever spend more than 20 bucks for ear buds. I have a set of $18 dollar ear buds that I bought at a flying-J truck stop that sound and preform just as well as my $300 dollar Bose Bluetooth ear buds...I paid $280 for a name. (not knocking Bose I love their home audio stuff, but they got me with the ear buds) Lossless files are the way to go for sure, and if you were to use this phone as the music provider for a stereo system, the sound you would want coming out of it (because you are using it as a preamp) would be dead flat..... The Same thing goes for your car or home stereo using the Bluetooth or a direct line out of the phone into a stereo system....the sound coming out of the phone should be flat or you are EQ'ing an EQ and you are defeating the purpose of the equalizer in the stereo, you are essentially feeding the stereo digital noise, (just try it, trust me) (you wont be sorry). Let the stereo do the work let the phone be the high end preamp and it shouldn't be turned up more than half way. Oh and just so you know in not some wind bag ,, I'm giving you practical useful, knowledge.
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What do you recommended that has best audio quality for mobile use? I mean, I use the LG V20 with Viper4Arise with good headphones and it blows me away how good it sounds.
vibrantliker said:
What do you recommended that has best audio quality for mobile use? I mean, I use the LG V20 with Viper4Arise with good headphones and it blows me away how good it sounds.
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Exactly what you are doing if that is what sounds good to you.... I would ask you to do one thing and see how it sounds... if you are going to use Viper then just use Viper.... Flatten out every other EQ that you would be sending the EQ'd sound from your phone to... then just use the viper eq until you have the sound you are looking for.
As far as headphones/earbuds are concerned. I have a free standing hat rack full of them.. I use them according to the music I am listening to, But if you want my honest opinion ( and i know someone will call me stupid, not that I care,) I use a pair of Beats, over ear, with noise canceling, wired, as my go to headphones,,,, and the stock earbuds that came with my S8+ .... They are made by AKG.... You can get stupid and spend a lot of money (like thousands) trying to get better sound from a substandard tinny tiny under powered sound card,,, and never find the right equipment to get the job done... and never realize its not the equipment you are buying but the equipment you are using,, inst getting the job done
I had Lg g6 and it has better Audio than the S8 + ,definitely.
I just can't believe any professional can suggest Bose, Beats or phone stock AKG. Did you ever try them? For studio purpose you are using monitors... maybe this is why...
Try something what make sense- don't be like sheep- buying beats or bose just for brand and color? Get proper AKG, Beyerdynamic are not massively expensive or Sennheiser ie80. I would not recommend headphones over £300 because you not gonna notice any difference. EQ or any funny software- I prefer flat sound but everyone is individual...
+1 to this. With all due respect but no real professional would say that an $18 pair of buds would produce the same sound quality like a +$300 pair of westone or senheiser or any other prestigious brand in ear monitors. This post was addressed to audiophiles and obviously OP you should expect answers from real ones.
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I just can't believe any professional can suggest Bose, Beats or phone stock AKG. Did you ever try them? For studio purpose you are using monitors... maybe this is why...
Try something what make sense- don't be like sheep- buying beats or bose just for brand and color? Get proper AKG, Beyerdynamic are not massively expensive or Sennheiser ie80. I would not recommend headphones over £300 because you not gonna notice any difference. EQ or any funny software- I prefer flat sound but everyone is individual...
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Samsung's S8 phone connected with the LDAC codec with Sony's WH-1000XM2 headphone is a combination made in heaven! There is presently no other wireless pair that comes close to this combination. The key is the LDAC bluetooth codec.