Ok, so I've been doing a lot of reading, and would like some confirmation for if I understand this part correctly, I had a hard time finding anything on flashing rules for the moto g.
In general you can flash any rom stock or custom back and forth as long as you stay within the same version number or you can update, but no downgrading, am I right? So if I have a boost moto g with stock 4.4.2 and I flash to Verizon stock 4.4.2(for pageplus) or CM11(for custom rom) I can then turnaround and flash boost stock 4.4.2 and everything will be fine? as long as I don't upgrade to 4.4.4 in which case I would be fine as long as I stay within 4.4.4 roms?
Please let me know if I understand this correctly, and if I missed any small but important details that have to do with rom flashing.
deanspeed said:
Ok, so I've been doing a lot of reading, and would like some confirmation for if I understand this part correctly, I had a hard time finding anything on flashing rules for the moto g.
In general you can flash any rom stock or custom back and forth as long as you stay within the same version number or you can update, but no downgrading, am I right? So if I have a boost moto g with stock 4.4.2 and I flash to Verizon stock 4.4.2(for pageplus) or CM11(for custom rom) I can then turnaround and flash boost stock 4.4.2 and everything will be fine? as long as I don't upgrade to 4.4.4 in which case I would be fine as long as I stay within 4.4.4 roms?
Please let me know if I understand this correctly, and if I missed any small but important details that have to do with rom flashing.
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yep you got it correctly..
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yep you got it correctly..
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It's about time someone answered. Thank you so much for your response
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It's about time someone answered. Thank you so much for your response
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no problem bro, happy to help
Actually you can't downgrade from 4.4.x to 4.3 because the bootloader is different and if you try you'll brick your device but you can flash any rom back and forth if is based on 4.4.x because the minor release are just small bugfix to the system. So actually what said theonecallednick it's not totally true.
I actually have a Moto G XT1032 from retail and I would like to know if I convert it to GPe, i will have OTA update for Android L, and will it work ?
Yes.
Thank you for the answer !!!
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Thank you for the answer !!!
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I don't get it. if we can simply install a GPE rom on our xt1032 and OTA update it to android l with needing to revert back to stock rom and unroot our devices, why is everyone talking about reverting back to original form and not just putting GPE and that's it.
can someone please explain?
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I don't get it. if we can simply install a GPE rom on our xt1032 and OTA update it to android l with needing to revert back to stock rom and unroot our devices, why is everyone talking about reverting back to original form and not just putting GPE and that's it.
can someone please explain?
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I was thinking that if I convert my XT1032 to GPe I will get Android faster than waiting Motorola update ^^
I installed the Brazillian lollipop (5.0) soak test on my Asian Moto G,
I've heard that 5.0.1 has came out for GPE devices, so I flashed the GPE 4.4.2 ROM to my phone
then I planned to upgrade to 5.0.1 via OTA,
The 4.4.2 GPE ROM seems has no problem, but after I install the 4.4.4 OTA, my phone won't boot at all, not even to fastboot mode,
So I googled and I found out that we need MBM-CI 5.0 to bring our dead devices back,
As I said, I've heard that Official Lollipop has came out for us,
So does it mean that Motorola has also released the MBM-CI 5.0?
If it does, then where can I get it?
Sorry for my bad English, I'm Indonesian, and I hope some of you could help me out
Thanks
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I installed the Brazillian lollipop (5.0) soak test on my Asian Moto G,
I've heard that 5.0.1 has came out for GPE devices, so I flashed the GPE 4.4.2 ROM to my phone
then I planned to upgrade to 5.0.1 via OTA,
The 4.4.2 GPE ROM seems has no problem, but after I install the 4.4.4 OTA, my phone won't boot at all, not even to fastboot mode,
So I googled and I found out that we need MBM-CI 5.0 to bring our dead devices back,
As I said, I've heard that Official Lollipop has came out for us,
So does it mean that Motorola has also released the MBM-CI 5.0?
If it does, then where can I get it?
Sorry for my bad English, I'm Indonesian, and I hope some of you could help me out
Thanks
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rabrahamk said:
I installed the Brazillian lollipop (5.0) soak test on my Asian Moto G,
I've heard that 5.0.1 has came out for GPE devices, so I flashed the GPE 4.4.2 ROM to my phone
then I planned to upgrade to 5.0.1 via OTA,
The 4.4.2 GPE ROM seems has no problem, but after I install the 4.4.4 OTA, my phone won't boot at all, not even to fastboot mode,
So I googled and I found out that we need MBM-CI 5.0 to bring our dead devices back,
As I said, I've heard that Official Lollipop has came out for us,
So does it mean that Motorola has also released the MBM-CI 5.0?
If it does, then where can I get it?
Sorry for my bad English, I'm Indonesian, and I hope some of you could help me out
Thanks
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It happens that we face the same thing. I did the same as you couple of days ago. Just wait for the Motoflasher to release the MBM-CI 5.0. Probably the new tool will be released on January or February as the motoboot.img for 5.0 officially released.
Sabar aja bro. Sheers!
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It happens that we face the same thing. I did the same as you couple of days ago. Just wait for the Motoflasher to release the MBM-CI 5.0. Probably the new tool will be released on January or February as the motoboot.img for 5.0 officially released.
Sabar aja bro. Sheers!
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And if you were to send in warranty ... ??? .. the problem, the battery will hold up until January ... ???
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I have read that we should leave it always connected to the wall charger until the MBM-IC lollipop will be out.
The guarantee would cover the issue being the Nexus stock at the time of the Brick, even starting it there should be no signs of tampering, but the problem that if for unlocking the bootloader deny us the guarantee, we could spend more than worth the MotoG ... sure thing, I'm glad I bought a Nexus 5, after 1 year of modding I never had these problems, not be purchasing anymore device not Nexus. Should be out before the factory and after the OTA, not the reverse.
When I can do it on again I sell it and buy my girlfriend a Nexus 4 White.
Where will it be released?
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It happens that we face the same thing. I did the same as you couple of days ago. Just wait for the Motoflasher to release the MBM-CI 5.0. Probably the new tool will be released on January or February as the motoboot.img for 5.0 officially released.
Sabar aja bro. Sheers!
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So that blankflasher (mbm-ci 5.0) will be realesed at Motorola's official website? Or maybe here at XDA or what?
btw makasih infonya mas
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And if you were to send in warranty ... ??? .. the problem, the battery will hold up until January ... ???
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I don't think that the battery does not survive till January, we're still able to charge our phones, aren't we?
It's just not showing the indicator,
Correct me if it's wrong, cuz I'm not really sure though
help!
i need MBM-CI 5.0 , Moto G blank-screen :silly:
butuh MBM-CI yang terbaru nih :angel:
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And if you were to send in warranty ... ??? .. the problem, the battery will hold up until January ... ???
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That's the problem, we don't have Motorola Service Center i here, Indonesia.
Don't worry, if you runs out of battery, you still can charge it just connect it to wall charger.
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So that blankflasher (mbm-ci 5.0) will be realesed at Motorola's official website? Or maybe here at XDA or what?
btw makasih infonya mas
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The tool will be released here in XDA-Developers http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g/orig-development/bootloader-tool-motoflasher-t2959076/.
Don't worry about the battery, eventough it has no indicator, it keeps charging when you put it to wall charger.
We could always try to send him assistance hoping for a warranty repair, or paying for the work, I do not think it can cost as much, being a smartphone cheap ..
I am on the same your situation, we can not throw a smartphone that worked great, you might not find a solution, I am not a MotoG users, the Moto G is my girlfriend, is the first time I've heard of MBM-CI and is the first time that brick making a smartphone with a firmware downgrade stock .... crazy stuff .... Sure you never buy a smartphone more than a Nexus .... What a horrible situation ... I have seen that there are several files MBM in the OTA but I would not know how to make them useful for our purpose ... From what I see nobody starts moving to resolve the situation.
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We could always try to send him assistance hoping for a warranty repair, or paying for the work, I do not think it can cost as much, being a smartphone cheap ..
I am on the same your situation, we can not throw a smartphone that worked great, you might not find a solution, I am not a MotoG users, the Moto G is my girlfriend, is the first time I've heard of MBM-CI and is the first time that brick making a smartphone with a firmware downgrade stock .... crazy stuff .... Sure you never buy a smartphone more than a Nexus .... What a horrible situation ... I have seen that there are several files MBM in the OTA but I would not know how to make them useful for our purpose ... From what I see nobody starts moving to resolve the situation.
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yep, that's how bootloader works, bro. That's why after we unlock the bootloader, we always notified everytime on out bootscreen. the motoflasher has help many users on 4.4.4 now we have to wait for the 5.0 officially released by Motorola. the MBM-CI files for blank-flash wasn't inside the OTA files, but inside of motoboot.img, what we have inside ota is only boot.img.p. that's all what i know.
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yep, that's how bootloader works, bro. That's why after we unlock the bootloader, we always notified everytime on out bootscreen. the motoflasher has help many users on 4.4.4 now we have to wait for the 5.0 officially released by Motorola. the MBM-CI files for blank-flash wasn't inside the OTA files, but inside of motoboot.img, what we have inside ota is only boot.img.p. that's all what i know.
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The strange thing that I bricked after returning to the stock not GPE after a soft brick after OTA 5.0.1, I came out of brick by flashing the official firmware 4.4.4 no GPE, I put the 4.4.2 GPE and has bricked during OTA 4.4.4 GPE .... can I still had the bootloader of 5.0.1 .... ???
I should not have the old bootloader after the downgrade ... ???
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That's the problem, we don't have Motorola Service Center i here, Indonesia.
Don't worry, if you runs out of battery, you still can charge it just connect it to wall charger.
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The tool will be released here in XDA-Developers http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g/orig-development/bootloader-tool-motoflasher-t2959076/.
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When it will be released? As soon as motorola release Lollipop, then it will be there or what? Gosh is there any other way to turn this phone again? Just used it for 9 days If I bring my device to Motorola service centre, could they fix it? By the way, thanks for the info
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The strange thing that I bricked after returning to the stock not GPE after a soft brick after OTA 5.0.1, I came out of brick by flashing the official firmware 4.4.4 no GPE, I put the 4.4.2 GPE and has bricked during OTA 4.4.4 GPE .... can I still had the bootloader of 5.0.1 .... ???
I should not have the old bootloader after the downgrade ... ???
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What rom did you use before returning to the stock? Did you use the Brazillian soak test? If you did, then it makes sense, you ruined the bootloader, just like I did
So now, what we gotta do is wait, isn't it?
My question is : How long we must wait for it?
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When it will be released? As soon as motorola release Lollipop, then it will be there or what? Gosh is there any other way to turn this phone again? Just used it for 9 days If I bring my device to Motorola service centre, could they fix it? By the way, thanks for the info
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Official motorola service centre fix it. 100$ pay. But in my country no motorola, i waiting MBM-Cl 5.0...I want this to happen as soon as possible...I miss
I Had the same problem, some one post good idea to send moto g for warranty , I sent my one and after 8 days I get brand new Moto G 4g.
You can try to send them for repair as they dont have mbm-ci 5.0 yet.
What are the chances of MB CL-5 release???
bro but motorola released 5.02 officially,now also we cant get mbm-ci5.0????
damnedivan said:
That's the problem, we don't have Motorola Service Center i here, Indonesia.
Don't worry, if you runs out of battery, you still can charge it just connect it to wall charger.
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The tool will be released here in XDA-Developers http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g/orig-development/bootloader-tool-motoflasher-t2959076/.
Don't worry about the battery, eventough it has no indicator, it keeps charging when you put it to wall charger.
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Hey guys my moto g XT1032 has been incredibly slow since the update to 5.0.1, I think this is due to the memory leak issue?
Restarting solves the issue for all of 20 mins - I've also tried wiping the cache.
Has anyone had any experience with this ?
I'm stuck between waiting for 5.1 and fixing it or downgrading to kitkat - it's incredibly frustrating at this stage waiting for my apps to load.
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Hey guys my moto g 2nd gen has been incredibly slow since the update to 5.0.1, I think this is due to the memory leak issue?
Restarting solves the issue for all of 20 mins - I've also tried wiping the cache.
Has anyone had any experience with this ?
I'm stuck between waiting for 5.1 and fixing it or downgrading to kitkat - it's incredibly frustrating at this stage waiting for my apps to load.
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IMO kitkat is far more responsive, quick, and stable than lollipop. Lollipop 5.1 is better than 5/5.01/5.02 but I still prefer kitkat over Lollipop. That's just my opinion.
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IMO kitkat is far more responsive, quick, and stable than lollipop. Lollipop 5.1 is better than 5/5.01/5.02 but I still prefer kitkat over Lollipop. That's just my opinion.
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Just what I thought :/ anyone have any tips on downgrading it back to kitkat ? ( I'm on 5.0.1 now)
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Just what I thought :/ anyone have any tips on downgrading it back to kitkat ? ( I'm on 5.0.1 now)
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What model number moto g do you have? xt1063/64 or which one?
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What model number moto g do you have? xt1063/64 or which one?
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hey
I'm xt1032
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hey
I'm xt1032
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Okay. In your original post you stated that you have the 2nd gen moto g. The xt1032 is the 1st gen moto g.
Also, if your bootloader is not unlocked and/or you are not rooted then you are stuck on Lollipop. If it is unlocked then you can adb fastboot the correct 4.4.4 firmware for your phone to go back to KitKat. I purchased my xt1028 with JellyBean on it, ota'd to 4.4.2 KitKat, then later took the 4.4.4 ota. Unlocked bootloader, rooted it and flashed numerous KitKat roms. Then upgraded my bootloader from 41.13 to 41.19 and flashed more than a few Lollipop roms. At the end of the day, I am just not impressed with Lollipop at all. Too bright, too many colors, and the design is too kiddie-like, as though they designed it for kindergarten children. Grow up android, and make an os for adults.
I reverted back to KitKat and I like it far better. Although I am about done with android. Going to iphone.
thanks for the reply - you're right -I'm a 1st gen ( XT1032).
So am I completely stuck on lolipop since the upgrade? ( I'm not rooted)
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thanks for the reply - you're right -I'm a 1st gen ( XT1032).
So am I completely stuck on lolipop since the upgrade? ( I'm not rooted)
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Yes, unfortunately if you are not rooted you are stuck on lollipop. However, you have a GSM phone and I think it is unlockable through Motorola's bootloader unlock program. Here is a link that may help: http://motogroms.com/moto-g-bootloa...o-g-xt939g-xt1008-xt1031-xt1032-xt1033-xt1034
And if you have success unlocking your bootloader, this link will help you restore KitKat on your phone: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2542219
Keep in mind though that when you took the Lollipop ota it updated your bootloader so even if you restore your phone to KitKat you will still have the updated bootloader(bootloader cannot be downgraded) so you will have some screen flicker every time you reboot your phone but that is resolved by just turning the screen off/on.
If you need any further assistance please feel free to let me know and I'll do what I can to help.
Upgraded mine 2 days ago I totally hate lollipop
the lock screen sucks with the speed dial on it .....I have acidently made calls twice......I have had to put a pass code in to stop this happening
untill I can find a way of removing this pile of **** from my phone.
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Yes, unfortunately if you are not rooted you are stuck on lollipop. However, you have a GSM phone and I think it is unlockable through Motorola's bootloader unlock program. Here is a link that may help: http://motogroms.com/moto-g-bootloa...o-g-xt939g-xt1008-xt1031-xt1032-xt1033-xt1034
And if you have success unlocking your bootloader, this link will help you restore KitKat on your phone: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2542219
Keep in mind though that when you took the Lollipop ota it updated your bootloader so even if you restore your phone to KitKat you will still have the updated bootloader(bootloader cannot be downgraded) so you will have some screen flicker every time you reboot your phone but that is resolved by just turning the screen off/on.
If you need any further assistance please feel free to let me know and I'll do what I can to help.
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thanks for the reply classic757 - you're a gent
It looks like I'm stuck so for a while. Any sign of an improved 5.1 to deal with the memory leak / slowdown?
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thanks for the reply classic757 - you're a gent
It looks like I'm stuck so for a while. Any sign of an improved 5.1 to deal with the memory leak / slowdown?
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Your welcome.
And I am not quite sure if there is a 5.1/5.1.1 Lollipop update for your phone. You can always visit Motorola Software Update Page to check.