So i eventually received my lollipop OTA this morning (UK, EE).............
But what exactly do i do with it
I'm rooted (Locked BL). I obviously can't install the OTA the normal way, can i ?
I was waiting for some custom ROMS to be made available but don't seem to see any. Will these follow soon since the Lollipop update has went global?
I'm kinda torn tbh.... i have my phone set up perfectly on KitKat and it looks amazing and some of my favourite xposed tweaks aren't available on Lollipop e.g. Blurred System UI.
Anyway...If i should decide to install Lollipop (i probably will) what would be the best method?
(Are we talking going back to stock, installing OTA, then re-rooting, or is there a more simple method?)
I believe u only lose root. Install and re-root is my fiddy cent...
Download your respective firmware and make a pre-rooted rom based on it.
And flash it via recovery.
Stick with KitKat.
Sorry to hijack the thread but if I root without unlocking bootloader, will I get to update normally via ota or companion app? I don't mind losing root access if only to reboot later. And does it affect drm keys etc?
I'm rooted with kitkat and received the prompt for lollipop OTA. The point is it downloads but won't install, so to upgrade you'd need to use flashtool, PC companion or boot into recovery and flash an appropriate zip. None of those should have any effect on your DRM, but you'll lose root unless you're flashing a pre-rooted version of lollipop. If you do opt for a rooted version of lollipop it's still a bit unclear whether recovery is fully available to you, and xposed installer has a rack of issues either way...... you might want to hold for now?
Thanks for that I'll wait it out for now. The only real reason I was really updating was for the move to sd feature. Do anyone know of any alternatives?
The point is, I just wanted root until the ota. So it will update normally via sony PC companion?
OTA Can't Verify on Rooted Device
I noticed the update this morning. Phone rebooted like it was going to work but didn't. Now it allows me to download it over and over and each time it says "could not verify". Is there any good reason to want this update? I'm rooted on the 77fw and my phone works fine as is. I do not want to update and find out I lost root. Unless there is a very good reason to, I'll just wait and see if a rooted zip becomes available.
Stickin with kitkat. I will not run without root.
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I have been anxiously waiting for asus to post the jb firmware (us tf300t). I found it today, but now realize if i flash it manually i lose my root, backed up with voodoo and superSU or not. I then was reading about this dlpkgfile thing. Am i understanding this correctly?
It is the file that gets downloaded from asus when you check for an OTA, or when an OTA is pushed to your device
It then reboots, and uses the file to update the device.
It does not make u lose root?
So theoretically, I should be able to put it in /cache/directory and then`reboot my tab and it should start updating right? I know i need to make sure i get US version, backup root, etc. But will this work how I am thinking it will?
Oh and, I am not sure why my ota failed in the first place, i think i might have uninstalled a system app by accident without thinking. I am just plain rooted stock, NOT unlocked. I had also run the firmware for ics from asus website yesterday to get all the stock stuff back on my tab, then rerooted, and am waiting for JB update now
I noticed that the pro version of SuperSu has a survival mode option. Should I have this enabled all the time? or should it only be enabled when I am ready to make a OTA update?
Just leave it where it is. I'm not even sure if it'll work with an ota. The nexus 5 is so easy to root that I've never tried it. It had been helpful on some other devices butt it's not needed with the n5
gee2012 makes a good point for cm roms of you want to maintain supersu
Edit out of curiosity I did enable survival mode on 4.4. It does survive update to 4.4.2
Sanvido said:
I noticed that the pro version of SuperSu has a survival mode option. Should I have this enabled all the time? or should it only be enabled when I am ready to make a OTA update?
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You can turn it on all the time, also when you flash CM superSU will remain the main superuser app.
You leave it on all the time as I assume it has scripts to reinstall SuperSU if certain files are removed. It currently works fine for me with OmniROM OTA updates.
Thanks guys for the answer.
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You leave it on all the time as I assume it has scripts to reinstall SuperSU if certain files are removed. It currently works fine for me with OmniROM OTA updates.
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Well, of course you would keep root with OmniROM, since it is a rooted rom.
Why wouldn't it keep root when you're using a ROM that requires root to begin with?
Forgive me for being a compleat (sic) Nitwit... but I thought that Rootkeeper and Survival Mode in SU were supposed to keep root through an OTA update for the stock ROM, like going from 4.3 to 4.4 which I think is impossible because when I tap 'check for updates', the message comes up that (and I'm paraphrasing here'... can't be updated because your system has been modified.
When reading through all the caveats in OTARootkeeper in the Play Store, it seems to say that you can un-root temporarily in order to install a new ROM update, and then re-enable root.
Of course, then the Dev. goes on to say that OTARootkeeper won't work with SuperSU installed because OTARootkeeper has it's own version of SU built in.
Am I right or wrong... and if I'm wrong, I wish that somebody would explain it to me exactly where.
Am I correct in assuming that OTARootkeeper will allow temporarily un-rooting for the purpose of installing let's say, an update to the stock ROM which I happen to be running, and then re-rooting and still keep root status?
I've had OTARootkeeper installed for quite a while, but I read that it no longer works with 4.3 to 4.4 stock ROM updates anyway, so I guess my comments become moot.
I own a Verizon SCH-I535 that had version 4.1.2 and after months of avoiding the Verizon update I stupidly pressed install now instead of later. I did have enough mind to take the battery out before it could reboot but my question is can I still root? And can I still use the 4.1.2 method? I don't want to install any roms just wish to uninstall any bloat apps.
I had a very similar issue some time ago. Check out my thread at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2607252
I went in a few circles, soft bricked my phone, but was able to recover. I think the important thing is to verify if your bootloader has been locked or not; boot into odin/recovery mode and checkout the messages posted in my thread. If the bootloader is not locked yet then you have options. If it is locked, you should probably just reboot the phone and let it do it's thing as the locked bootloader cannot be reverted.
Depends on how important this is to you. My wife got the 4.3 update and loves it, but she is not the type to do any customization. I now have a CM 10 d2vzw and am happy. It I were to do this again, I would probably verify you have an unlocked bootloader and re-flash the complete stock 4.1.2 image as I did. Issue is, you will probably lose a lot of data & settings, but things like pictures, etc. should sitll be there. Once the stock 4.1.2 is there you will want to root and disable updates, or else flash a new rom.
The 4.3 update (and anything after it) locks the bootloader. If that's a big deal to you, then you need to push some custom roms. If not, towelroot works on everything so far, so you'd be able to reroot (pretty hassle free) and do what you want.
I have successfully rooted my note 12.2 - thanks to this awesome forum.
With that I can't do OTA or use Kies to stay up to date. So I'd like to know how I can stay up to date as Samsung releases new firmwares? For example I just downloaded the newly released 5.0.2 from Samobile and flashed it with Odin 3.09. That went well but of course it wiped my machine so I'm starting fresh again. I'd like to be able to stay up to date with out a complete re-wipe each time if possible. Thoughts?
As a long time root user I can tell you that the cardinal rule is that one should give up the notion of getting OTA updates for good once one roots for the simple fact that with each major OTA update comes the risk of losing root forever should the update lock the doors on the exploit used to gain root to begin with.
Casual root users are best served by watching forum threads after updates are released to see how more experienced users are fairing with getting their devices up to date. The exception to this is if a custom ROM is installed and the developer updates the ROM periodically to integrate the updated software or features that the device manufacturer releases. Even then, if a major update is released that let's say jumps to a new system like kitkat to lollipop there's a chance that a full wipe can't be avoided. ROM developers typically warn users when clean installs are required, and some even distribute their own OTAs.
I'm a religious user of titanium backup, and I will often dirty flash a ROM update or use prior titanium backups to restore data but this can be risky business when major updates are released because if software or drivers change from one major firmware release to another a backup of a particular application may no longer be compatible and stability may be affected upon restore.
Bottom line, if you want lollipop on your note pro, rooted, can live with the current bluetooth issues and want to be able to update further easily while retaining root then go with a custom ROM like civs and just monitor the thread of that ROM for updates.
Hope this helps.
Thanks for the excellent advice. One two more more question on the topic. I had root on KitKat, but after flashing the new stock Lollipop via Odin, I lost root. So after installing the stock Lollipop I had to re-do the root flash via Odin to get root back, thankfully it all worked out. (Lollipop is awesome BTW).
Questions:
1. Was I in danger of forever losing root as you state above or was this a safe route? I understand that OTA and even Kies can make me lose root forever, but what about flashing a stock via Odin?
2. Are you saying that next time there's an update I could try to dirty flash the ROM via TWM (after doing a good backup via Titanium of course)? Basically find ROM on samobile, download, copy to SD card and dirty flash away using these suggestions: https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/sthr8/dirty_flashing_what_it_is_and_is_not_lets_set_the/
Typically to keep root the stock recovery is replaced with a custom one, TWRP is the main one used for our device. Stock updates from Samsung downloaded as OTA will typically fail to flash in TWRP. Odin flashing stock images will erase everything including the custom recovery, thus causing loss of root. In other words you'll typically lose root one way or another and the key to retaining it is to not blindly update until a root method is ensured for the next version of firmware. Resign to the fact that with each update you will temporarily lose root and need to redo it. Plan ahead, wait for root confirmation and then update with a plan of how to get root again.
I typically don't TWRP flash stock so I don't know if it works but in the distant past I recall that it wouldn't so thus I never try. Maybe someone can confirm. For me I haven't updated firmware on my note pro for a year now and I am not missing anything. ..
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Just wondering if I'll be able to take an OTA update from 6.0 to 6.0.1 whenever it is available? I received a message saying a software update was available and when I told it to install it, it rebooted into TWRP, checked the current software for about 3 minutes, then rebooted? Upon looking, I am still on 6.0? I had the system check to see if there was still an update available, but it said there was nothing. Maybe it was just a radio update? I am anxiously awaiting the update so that I may install Xposed. Any input would be greatly appreciated :good:
AT+T US Unlocked
Rooted/S-off
6.0
1.10.502.3
You can't take OTAs with rooted phones and twrp. The OTA looks at the system partition and if anything is changed...it will not install.
You have to either take a backup somebody made with the OTA/stock basically. Flash it via TWRP. Or RUU back to the lastest for your phone. Then, take all OTA updates, then TWRP, Format Data, then SuperSU again, reboot...start/restore phone.
There is no easy way without Dev support/Custom Roms to get latest bases/OTAs right now without wiping/starting over somehow.
This is why having devs creating Roms is really a luxury. Because they already have the proven installer/Rom customized. They will then take OTAs/new bases, roll that into their Rom, and you just do an update/flash, like Viper, and not lose anything, and no need to wipe.
Likely never to happen with this phone since Devs really only work on the Mainline/Flagship M models, like M8/M9/M10 etc...