I unfroze all the apps I had frozen and tried the OTA and it still failed.
I am rooted with just the stock ROM.
Anything I am missing here?
I do not think OTA updates with the carrier is possible on a rooted phone. I know mine would not do OTA updates when it was stock, unlocked, and rooted. It would always fail.
No OTA updates will work on a rooted phone. If it somehow does work it will likely break your root privileges
ok that makes sense.
So did you just not do the update and how do I make it stop trying to update.
I might start running custom roms again. I have not done that in a long time.
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I do not think OTA updates with the carrier is possible on a rooted phone. I know mine would not do OTA updates when it was stock, unlocked, and rooted. It would always fail.
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You can do a OTA with root but you will just lose it. If you altered some system files it will fail or if you run a custom recovery it will fail.
I've had similar issues, on other devices, with ota updates not working because of root, and more specifically I believe, cwm recovery. Unfortunately I've had to use kies to update.
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kendive said:
ok that makes sense.
So did you just not do the update and how do I make it stop trying to update.
I might start running custom roms again. I have not done that in a long time.
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There was no option to update. Verizon pushed the update to my phone twice in the middle of the night without my knowledge or permission. In the mornings I would see the message that the update failed. I didn't want it anyway, and dislike the bloat, so I flashed to a custom ROM after their second attempt. No more OTA updates for me now. That's what happened with me anyway.
Yea I agree... I did not really need the OTA and I plan on installing CleanROM 5.6 tmr.
I just froze all that bloat back. I can't stand all that S***T running in the back ground.
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There was no option to update. Verizon pushed the update to my phone twice in the middle of the night without my knowledge or permission. In the mornings I would see the message that the update failed. I didn't want it anyway, and dislike the bloat, so I flashed to a custom ROM after their second attempt. No more OTA updates for me now. That's what happened with me anyway.
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Moto G, currently running 4.4.2 unlocked and rooted with TWRP v2.6.3.0 the firmware is tweaked to my liking with GravityBox. I am also using the Faux123 to over/under clock etc.
Very happy with the performance, features and battery life.
But I am now getting bugged by the Motorola update for 4.4.3
I did try to update and the phone got into a start, reboot loop. So I have restored to my last configuration.
It's been quite sometime since I played with configuring the above and I have gone a bit blank! Can someone please outline the steps that I have to do to complete the upgrade with minimum fuss.
As a side note. I have avoided custom ROMs so far because of all the problems that I was reading about several months ago. But perhaps enough time has elapsed for me to consider going say CM11 now? I would appreciate any comments as to me going down this route. ie. Are all bugs worked out is the Moto G fully functional, does a custom ROM truly provide worthwhile benefits?
Thanks.
I would also like to know this as well as I am currently on 4.4.2 unrooted, but really feel feel like I want to start and get my Moto G rooted and up and running with all the goody's available on the community, but feel like I should wait for the 4.4.3 rollout before I start going through the whole bootloader unlocking, rooting etc.
So I will check back on this post, and thank you to the thread starter as this saves me starting a similar topic.
Rooted 4.4.2 over here as well. Unfortunately I've had no such luck finding a way to update to 4.4.3 while being rooted. I've been through a plethora of guides and suggestions but nothing seems to be working. I'll end up getting an error no matter what I do.
Don't mean to try and hijack your thread, but I've been trying to flash the .zip for the update with both CWM and TWRP but I get an error every time. Anyone have any ideas why? Do I need to configure root-requiring apps beforehand or something?
ugh...same here! Please someone figure this out!
@Kwala Baerr I was hoping for a quick 1,2,3 Guide! I miss posted the question in the General section, then moved it here. I subsequently find a few similar posts in this section. But your message suggests that you may have already tried them which worries me! Anyway I will have a go tomorrow and post here if I get success.
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@grahamgo oh yea sorry. Well I've tried just about everything. I think I've narrowed down my problem to SoftKeyz messing up my SystemUI.apk so you might still have a chance. Let me know how it goes though!
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Moto G, currently running 4.4.2 unlocked and rooted with TWRP v2.6.3.0 the firmware is tweaked to my liking with GravityBox. I am also using the Faux123 to over/under clock etc.
Very happy with the performance, features and battery life.
But I am now getting bugged by the Motorola update for 4.4.3
I did try to update and the phone got into a start, reboot loop. So I have restored to my last configuration.
It's been quite sometime since I played with configuring the above and I have gone a bit blank! Can someone please outline the steps that I have to do to complete the upgrade with minimum fuss.
As a side note. I have avoided custom ROMs so far because of all the problems that I was reading about several months ago. But perhaps enough time has elapsed for me to consider going say CM11 now? I would appreciate any comments as to me going down this route. ie. Are all bugs worked out is the Moto G fully functional, does a custom ROM truly provide worthwhile benefits?
Thanks.
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Put on your phone Us firmware http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2542219 setup the phone via wifi. Update is about 163mb. After that use Mototool to root the phone and fix the white screen http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2635706
mabey you can do a beckup of sms https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.riteshsahu.SMSBackupRestore and https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.riteshsahu.CallLogBackupRestore
regards
I recently upgraded my stock rooted 4.4.2 Moto G to 4.4.3. The steps you have to take depends on how many modifications you've made. But basically, you need to make sure of these things:
Do a nandroid backup of your working system!
What I did:
Uninstall Xposed modules and Xposed Framework. You *must* do this through the XPosed installer itself.
Re-install/Re-enable system apps that you disabled. For me, I used Titanium Backup, and unfroze the apps that I froze. I made a mistake on my Nexus 7 and uninstalled without backup, which made this process harder.
Repeat the same for any other root apps that made changes to your /system folder.
Uninstall Busybox. If you don't know if you have it or not, download this BusyBox Installer app, and it will tell you. If it is installed, go to the bottom right of your screen and under its preferences, there is a 'delete busybox' option as seen in their 6th screenshot. The order of this is important! Some apps require BusyBox to work and do their installing/uninstalling.
Completely unroot by going to SuperSU's Settings tab, and selecting the Full Unroot option.
Download the latest version of SuperSU onto your SD card if you don't have it already.
Download 4.4.3 update and let it install.
Go into your recovery and re-install SuperSU.
Restore your old root apps like XPosed and BusyBox. I re-installed them and re-did my settings for gravity box and saved my settings using the in-app options for XPrivacy, but you might be able to use Titanium Backup for this if your settings are too extensive.
Alternately, if you're having trouble because you can't find the system apps you need or you're getting an error while updating due to something in your /system folder, you should download stock 4.4.2, extract it, and then re-flash the stock system & boot.img using fastboot or mfastboot. For my XT1034, it was in these images: system.img_sparsechunk1, system.img_sparsechunk2, system.img_sparsechunk3 + boot.img. Yours may differ depending on your model.
Note, I did not test this particular method when I upgraded, but I did use mfastboot to revert to a complete stock 4.4.2 when I changed from CM11 awhile back using this guide.
I was able to keep my bootloader unlocked, and to keep PhilZ's recovery through the update process with no issues.
Hope that helps!
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I recently upgraded my stock rooted 4.4.2 Moto G to 4.4.3. The steps you have to take depends on how many modifications you've made. But basically, you need to make sure of these things:
Do a nandroid backup of your working system!
What I did:
Uninstall Xposed modules and Xposed Framework. You *must* do this through the XPosed installer itself.
Re-install/Re-enable system apps that you disabled. For me, I used Titanium Backup, and unfroze the apps that I froze. I made a mistake on my Nexus 7 and uninstalled without backup, which made this process harder.
Repeat the same for any other root apps that made changes to your /system folder.
Uninstall Busybox. If you don't know if you have it or not, download this BusyBox Installer app, and it will tell you. If it is installed, go to the bottom right of your screen and under its preferences, there is a 'delete busybox' option as seen in their 6th screenshot. The order of this is important! Some apps require BusyBox to work and do their installing/uninstalling.
Completely unroot by going to SuperSU's Settings tab, and selecting the Full Unroot option.
Download the latest version of SuperSU onto your SD card if you don't have it already.
Download 4.4.3 update and let it install.
Go into your recovery and re-install SuperSU.
Restore your old root apps like XPosed and BusyBox. I re-installed them and re-did my settings for gravity box and saved my settings using the in-app options for XPrivacy, but you might be able to use Titanium Backup for this if your settings are too extensive.
Alternately, if you're having trouble because you can't find the system apps you need or you're getting an error while updating due to something in your /system folder, you should download stock 4.4.2, extract it, and then re-flash the stock system & boot.img using fastboot or mfastboot. For my XT1034, it was in these images: system.img_sparsechunk1, system.img_sparsechunk2, system.img_sparsechunk3 + boot.img. Yours may differ depending on your model.
Note, I did not test this particular method when I upgraded, but I did use mfastboot to revert to a complete stock 4.4.2 when I changed from CM11 awhile back using this guide.
I was able to keep my bootloader unlocked, and to keep PhilZ's recovery through the update process with no issues.
Hope that helps!
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What recovery were you on?
Kwala Baerr said:
What recovery were you on?
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Here's the thread with information on downloading & installing PhilZ Touch recovery:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2639583
Looks like there's a new stable release out, but I still had PhilZ Touch 6.26.6 Falcon installed.
tarotsujimoto said:
I recently upgraded my stock rooted 4.4.2 Moto G to 4.4.3. The steps you have to take depends on how many modifications you've made. But basically, you need to make sure of these things:
Do a nandroid backup of your working system!
What I did:
Uninstall Xposed modules and Xposed Framework. You *must* do this through the XPosed installer itself.
Re-install/Re-enable system apps that you disabled. For me, I used Titanium Backup, and unfroze the apps that I froze. I made a mistake on my Nexus 7 and uninstalled without backup, which made this process harder.
Repeat the same for any other root apps that made changes to your /system folder.
Uninstall Busybox. If you don't know if you have it or not, download this BusyBox Installer app, and it will tell you. If it is installed, go to the bottom right of your screen and under its preferences, there is a 'delete busybox' option as seen in their 6th screenshot. The order of this is important! Some apps require BusyBox to work and do their installing/uninstalling.
Completely unroot by going to SuperSU's Settings tab, and selecting the Full Unroot option.
Download the latest version of SuperSU onto your SD card if you don't have it already.
Download 4.4.3 update and let it install.
Go into your recovery and re-install SuperSU.
Restore your old root apps like XPosed and BusyBox. I re-installed them and re-did my settings for gravity box and saved my settings using the in-app options for XPrivacy, but you might be able to use Titanium Backup for this if your settings are too extensive.
Alternately, if you're having trouble because you can't find the system apps you need or you're getting an error while updating due to something in your /system folder, you should download stock 4.4.2, extract it, and then re-flash the stock system & boot.img using fastboot or mfastboot. For my XT1034, it was in these images: system.img_sparsechunk1, system.img_sparsechunk2, system.img_sparsechunk3 + boot.img. Yours may differ depending on your model.
Note, I did not test this particular method when I upgraded, but I did use mfastboot to revert to a complete stock 4.4.2 when I changed from CM11 awhile back using this guide.
I was able to keep my bootloader unlocked, and to keep PhilZ's recovery through the update process with no issues.
Hope that helps!
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Im rooted running stock rom and using exposed installer with gravity box and a few other modules running and all I had to do to update to 4.3.3 was to use Moto Tool AIO v3.0 to revert back to stock kitkat recovery, after that I just accepted the update, installed it, and then went back to a custom recovery. I lost none of my exposed installs or settings, took maybe 10 minutes start to finish and was painless.
tarotsujimoto said:
Here's the thread with information on downloading & installing PhilZ Touch recovery:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2639583
Looks like there's a new stable release out, but I still had PhilZ Touch 6.26.6 Falcon installed.
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I have just wasted a lot of time...... I tried Philz Touch 6.43.8, no go, then an earlier version, still no go. Then I found a thread saying that there were bugs in later versions, they recommended the use of 6.26.6
I tried it and it works great. However I wasted almost 2 hours finding this out.
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Im rooted running stock rom and using exposed installer with gravity box and a few other modules running and all I had to do to update to 4.3.3 was to use Moto Tool AIO v3.0 to revert back to stock kitkat recovery, after that I just accepted the update, installed it, and then went back to a custom recovery. I lost none of my exposed installs or settings, took maybe 10 minutes start to finish and was painless.
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I appreciate @tarotsujimoto post and I see the logic of this approach. But I too was thinking that it might be less troublesome (but maybe take longer) to go back to factory, update it to 4.4.3 and then re-install Xposed and apps + data, etc using Titanium.
@castuis I am intrigued by your mention of using a custom recovery. Could you please expand on what you backed up and if possible more details on how you did it etc.
I have wasted too much time today getting a working Philz Touch going, (maybe I should have stayed with TWRP!). But I do like the look of Philz 6.26.6 now its working. But will have to put my 4.4.3 update attempt off for a day or so.
Thanks!
Since none of the methods mentioned works for me, I have tried to extract the system.img from the original ROM archive. But how do I mount that system.img_sparsechunk files on Linux? They can not be converted by simg2img or unyaffs either ...
I had no success with any of the "short cut" methods either. I was hoping that @castuis promise of a 10 minute method would come true, but he hasn't been back to expand on his method. I myself reverted the phone to factory, let it upgrade. Then re-rooted, installed xposed and then let Google play reinstall my apps. It's definitely not a quick method. But at least it gave me a clean install. Significant frustration, caused by using Philz touch, but switched to TWRP. Finally did a system backup with Titanium. I thought that was it. Now it looks like there will be a 4.4.4 soon. I'm thinking to ignore it and wait for the next upgrade. @nodh I would wait for 4.4.4 !
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I've solved my upgrade problem: I've flashed the 176.44.1 (retail Germany, 4.4.3) stock ROM, as described here. Altough I didn't flash the recovery (to restore root with the ClockWorkMod recovey) and didn't erase userdata. Now I've got the upgrade, with all my settings preserved and even rooted again.
So i eventually received my lollipop OTA this morning (UK, EE).............
But what exactly do i do with it
I'm rooted (Locked BL). I obviously can't install the OTA the normal way, can i ?
I was waiting for some custom ROMS to be made available but don't seem to see any. Will these follow soon since the Lollipop update has went global?
I'm kinda torn tbh.... i have my phone set up perfectly on KitKat and it looks amazing and some of my favourite xposed tweaks aren't available on Lollipop e.g. Blurred System UI.
Anyway...If i should decide to install Lollipop (i probably will) what would be the best method?
(Are we talking going back to stock, installing OTA, then re-rooting, or is there a more simple method?)
I believe u only lose root. Install and re-root is my fiddy cent...
Download your respective firmware and make a pre-rooted rom based on it.
And flash it via recovery.
Stick with KitKat.
Sorry to hijack the thread but if I root without unlocking bootloader, will I get to update normally via ota or companion app? I don't mind losing root access if only to reboot later. And does it affect drm keys etc?
I'm rooted with kitkat and received the prompt for lollipop OTA. The point is it downloads but won't install, so to upgrade you'd need to use flashtool, PC companion or boot into recovery and flash an appropriate zip. None of those should have any effect on your DRM, but you'll lose root unless you're flashing a pre-rooted version of lollipop. If you do opt for a rooted version of lollipop it's still a bit unclear whether recovery is fully available to you, and xposed installer has a rack of issues either way...... you might want to hold for now?
Thanks for that I'll wait it out for now. The only real reason I was really updating was for the move to sd feature. Do anyone know of any alternatives?
The point is, I just wanted root until the ota. So it will update normally via sony PC companion?
OTA Can't Verify on Rooted Device
I noticed the update this morning. Phone rebooted like it was going to work but didn't. Now it allows me to download it over and over and each time it says "could not verify". Is there any good reason to want this update? I'm rooted on the 77fw and my phone works fine as is. I do not want to update and find out I lost root. Unless there is a very good reason to, I'll just wait and see if a rooted zip becomes available.
Stickin with kitkat. I will not run without root.
Hello xda.
A few weeks ago I started getting this notification telling me a new system update was available but when I tried to do it, it wouldn't install. I quickly discovered it was because my device was rooted. I followed this guide to get the update (more to get rid of the annoying notification really) ; I made sure do download the right stock image (my device is a XT1541 2 GB) and to flash all the system.img_sparsechunk files (there are 8 in this case) and it went smoothly (booted alright) up until the rooting part.
Basically, I followed RootJunky's video tutorial but after applying the root I can't get past the bootloader's warning screen. The only difference between me and RJ is both TWRP and SU I used are more recent versions (the latest ones).
In the end I just restored the backup I had made "just in case" before the manual update (boy am I glad I made this one) and my phone's back to working order, except not updated.
So here I am : what can I do about it? Is it still possible to root this phone (youtube commentaries indicate I'm not the only one with this issue)? Worst case scenario, is there a way to get rid of the update notification?
Any help is appreciated.
You'll need a systemless root.
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How to root ANY Moto G 2015 model on Marshmallow
Thank you both for your answer.
Turns out the method linked didn't work for me. Not only was the root not applied according the supersu app, but I still got an update notification after 'rooting' the phone (even though I checked for update after booting the newly installed rom for the first time and there wasn't any).
I decided to go a different route and used Titanium Backup to freeze the Motorola Update app. Hopefully this will do the trick of sparing me the notifications until I can figure out how to get OTA updates.
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Thank you both for your answer.
Turns out the method linked didn't work for me. Not only was the root not applied according the supersu app, but I still got an update notification after 'rooting' the phone (even though I checked for update after booting the newly installed rom for the first time and there wasn't any).
I decided to go a different route and used Titanium Backup to freeze the Motorola Update app. Hopefully this will do the trick of sparing me the notifications until I can figure out how to get OTA updates.
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No offense, but if you didn't have root then TiBu wouldn't work properly... Obviously the rooting worked.
Rooting itself doesn't prevent updates or there notification, it just keeps it from being applied properly. Freezing the app in TiBu should prevent it though.
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No offense, but if you didn't have root then TiBu wouldn't work properly...
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I forgot to mention I restored my functional backup when I saw my manipulations didn't work. I used TB after that.
Isley_FR said:
I forgot to mention I restored my functional backup when I saw my manipulations didn't work. I used TB after that.
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Fair enough..
Quick update : after a couple more tries I successfully rooted my phone by following this method.
I now have the latest stock rom and it's rooted
Thank you for existing XDA! :good:
In preparation for Mario Run, and knowing that Nintendo doesn't work well with Rooted devices I decided it was time to upgrade my ROM while dropping root.
I had been running cm-13.0-20160129-MARSH1.9.7, with a normally flashed SuperSU. Doing a quick look at the options I went with an upgrade to the most recent SlimOS, Slim-bacon-7.1.1.build.0.14-BETA-20170303-0805.
For some reason, apps such as Flipp have been earning me about the safety risks of running rooted; and even though the SuperSU app tells me I'm not rooted once I installed it, I'm getting a close on startup trying to run Mario Run. Do I have to revert to stock to fully get rid of root?
Life101 said:
In preparation for Mario Run, and knowing that Nintendo doesn't work well with Rooted devices I decided it was time to upgrade my ROM while dropping root.
I had been running cm-13.0-20160129-MARSH1.9.7, with a normally flashed SuperSU. Doing a quick look at the options I went with an upgrade to the most recent SlimOS, Slim-bacon-7.1.1.build.0.14-BETA-20170303-0805.
For some reason, apps such as Flipp have been earning me about the safety risks of running rooted; and even though the SuperSU app tells me I'm not rooted once I installed it, I'm getting a close on startup trying to run Mario Run. Do I have to revert to stock to fully get rid of root?
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Use latest lineage os.