[Q] Customising the mont blanc case/cover to wireless, any tips? - Galaxy Note 4 Accessories

As per title really.
I've read many negative reviews regarding aftermarket qi receiver stickers including issues about off centre placement to get the charging working.
So after watching the youtube video on how to buy the genuine samsung wireless cover and then remove the actual ultra slim qi coil to place in whatever cover you wish I decided to go ahead.
First step done and coil removed however I see that in the back of the mont blanc case there is already a small grey plastic piece with pins/terminals on it that connect to the terminal between the sim card and memory card...... just where the coil needs to make contact.
Before I remove this does anybody know what it is? Reasons to not remove it? Tips or advice?
I'm guessing it will be a chip etc for activation of mont blanc software.
Thanks in advance

I think it's NFC as well as for the Montblanc software. I tried the regular Qi wireless card or whatever it's called and it does work but the smart on/off screen feature of the Montblanc case won't work wtih it in there. Don't know if the Samsung one will do the same but as far as removing the contacts I think you should be okay.
fandrover said:
As per title really.
I've read many negative reviews regarding aftermarket qi receiver stickers including issues about off centre placement to get the charging working.
So after watching the youtube video on how to buy the genuine samsung wireless cover and then remove the actual ultra slim qi coil to place in whatever cover you wish I decided to go ahead.
First step done and coil removed however I see that in the back of the mont blanc case there is already a small grey plastic piece with pins/terminals on it that connect to the terminal between the sim card and memory card...... just where the coil needs to make contact.
Before I remove this does anybody know what it is? Reasons to not remove it? Tips or advice?
I'm guessing it will be a chip etc for activation of mont blanc software.
Thanks in advance
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Successful in the transfer of the coil as in the thread on here but as you experienced I've lost the smart open/awake function which is a real pity.

I just installed this qi receiver under my Mountblonc case - has the "pass through" connector so I didn't lose the cover sensor function.
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Note Edge Flip Wallet Qi Wireless Charging (DIY)

i cant post any link here as im a new user but you can go to youtube and search "Note Edge Flip Wallet Qi Wireless Charging (DIY)" to check it out
i cracked open the original samsung qi wireless back and attach the qi receiver to the flip wallet back, anyone is interested in more details please let me know
Guide?
I would love if you could go over the steps on how you integrated the receiver into the flip cover. In the video I see the flip wallet clock still works since it's tied to the magnet in the cover, not the back cover contacts (got creative with the Gear Circle to test this). Does NFC work correctly?
Also curious of NFC works.
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I have a wireless charging back for my note 3, can I use that?
bignibb said:
I have a wireless charging back for my note 3, can I use that?
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Very interested in this answer. Would be a good dolar savings to reuse the innards and would be a great combo with the leather case (like the video.).
Steps and pic if possible?
sorry guys I've been busy past few days couldn't reply earlier. for your questions:
1. NFC works perfectly
2. Require the original note edge qi receiver (from the original case as there is no 3rd party qi receiver out there yet) as you can see below the qi receiver connectors need to match the phone's terminals (i.e. the L shaped below the sd card slot and the one above the battery
and regarding steps, unfortunately i did not take video or pix while cracking open the original case and attaching to the flip wallet but i''ll try my best to explain here
1. this is how the original case looks like (pic1)
2. use a knife to start cracking the 4 corners then sides of the plastic piece in the middle which has the qi receiver attached underneath and this is how it looks after detaching it from the case (of course the qi receiver should be there too but mine is already glued to my flip wallet now) (pic2)
3. you should fine the qi receiver is glued to the plastic piece (the left one in pic2) but can be removed easily (with care also!) by hand
4. on the flip wallet you should see a chip attached to it (pic3) please make sure that is removed before attaching the qi receiver on it as one of the qi connectors is at the same spot so without removing the chip on the flip wallet you can't attach your phone properly to the wallet
5. after removing the chip, place the qi receiver on the flip wallet at the same positions as where the connectors should be touching the phone's terminals (pic4)
6. DONE!
NFC works, wireless charging works and edge panel responds to the flip wallet cover! do it at your own risk but it is pretty straight forward!
ENJOY!
ojcool said:
and regarding steps, unfortunately i did not take video or pix while cracking open the original case and attaching to the flip wallet but i''ll try my best to explain here
1. this is how the original case looks like (pic1)
2. use a knife to start cracking the 4 corners then sides of the plastic piece in the middle which has the qi receiver attached underneath and this is how it looks after detaching it from the case (of course the qi receiver should be there too but mine is already glued to my flip wallet now) (pic2)
3. you should fine the qi receiver is glued to the plastic piece (the left one in pic2) but can be removed easily (with care also!) by hand
4. on the flip wallet you should see a chip attached to it (pic3) please make sure that is removed before attaching the qi receiver on it as one of the qi connectors is at the same spot so without removing the chip on the flip wallet you can't attach your phone properly to the wallet
5. after removing the chip, place the qi receiver on the flip wallet at the same positions as where the connectors should be touching the phone's terminals (pic4)
6. DONE!
NFC works, wireless charging works and edge panel responds to the flip wallet cover! do it at your own risk but it is pretty straight forward!
ENJOY!
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Are you using the original qi back plate for the note 4?
krazieboy said:
Are you using the original qi back plate for the note 4?
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No that is original Qi back for Edge. Note 4 terminals are in different place. You can get that from Korea. Or eBay for $37+$19 shipping.
JoganJani said:
No that is original Qi back for Edge. Note 4 terminals are in different place. You can get that from Korea. Or eBay for $37+$19 shipping.
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that is correct, note 4 has different terminals than note edge. and for your information, i have checked with 2 companies which manufactures 3rd party qi receivers for samsung phones both said they do not have plan yet on making one for edge (guess from profit perspective edge is a limited production phone) and that is why i went ahead to DIY one using the original note edge qi case
JoganJani said:
No that is original Qi back for Edge. Note 4 terminals are in different place. You can get that from Korea. Or eBay for $37+$19 shipping.
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OOooooo I wasn't aware the edge had qi charging plate!. thanks!
Did you use any special glue to attach the qi receiver to the case?
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kirkla79 said:
Did you use any special glue to attach the qi receiver to the case?
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From the pictures it looks like he used a type of frabic tape.
I'm sure he will chime in with that he did.
I thought about doing this from the start , I don't like the thickness of the charging backs. So I was going to rip the guts out and put in on the OEM back.
But that's alot of money just to rip it apart.
I had the thin small pad for my Note 3 and it only cost about $10. So I think I'll wait on the note edge buntil they get the thin pads aslo.
My qi case came in and I did the mod for the wallet case.
It works perfectly! Thanks OP!
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Just to be clear this mod was done from an Edge Qi back cover to a waller case back cover. Im guessing to avoid the extra thickness added by the Qi backing.
Can this be done to the original backing that comes with the note edge so that I can have Qi with the simple backing and no extra thickness
tospace2006 said:
Just to be clear this mod was done from an Edge Qi back cover to a waller case back cover. Im guessing to avoid the extra thickness added by the Qi backing.
Can this be done to the original backing that comes with the note edge so that I can have Qi with the simple backing and no extra thickness
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Yep that works, I have done that for one of my friends who complained the qi cover is too thick
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEuXId2WV9w
This could be a quick and easy way to do this whole mod but I think I want to keep the ability to use the usb port in case I need quickcharge or use the port for mass storage.
Also does anyone know what amperage the OEM case allow. Cause I saw that Samsung official Qi chargers are 2amp but most only deliver 1amp from what i know.
On bottom L sharp pins; pin of inside is + 5v and pin of out side is ground. you can mod samsung s5 wireless charger receiver to install. (pin of wireless charger receiver s5 is opposite compare to note edge). so i trip off plastic cover of receiver and pull up pcb sidedown to made compatible pins .
Cons: due to wireless receiver is 1.0 compatible=used ic bq5101xx = max 1000ma.
note edge can handle 1700 ma so receiver get hot;
Solutions: used usb charger under 1000ma or connect 2 wireless receiver in parallel way. (1 up and 1 down; coils are center and symmetric).
pdandroid said:
On bottom L sharp pins; pin of inside is + 5v and pin of out side is ground. you can mod samsung s5 wireless charger receiver to install. (pin of wireless charger receiver s5 is opposite compare to note edge). so i trip off plastic cover of receiver and pull up pcb sidedown to made compatible pins .
Cons: due to wireless receiver is 1.0 compatible=used ic bq5101xx = max 1000ma.
note edge can handle 1700 ma so receiver get hot;
Solutions: used usb charger under 1000ma or connect 2 wireless receiver in parallel way. (1 up and 1 down; coils are center and symmetric).
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Maybe some pics? would be helpful

[Q] Qi Coil for Z3?

Hello,
I was just wondering if there was a seperate Qi coil/ Qi Reciever that could connect to the Dock port on our Xperia Z3 Devices on sale?
You can't add any aftermarket coils to a "sealed" phone with non-removable back part. Only thing you can do is buy a case with it built-in, and there's only one such option, which you might or might not like:
http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/products/accessories/wireless-charging-cover-wcr14/
AlexusJ said:
You can't add any aftermarket coils to a "sealed" phone with non-removable back part. Only thing you can do is buy a case with it built-in, and there's only one such option, which you might or might not like:
http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/products/accessories/wireless-charging-cover-wcr14/
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I'm going to have to disagree, you definitely can, They've invented it for MicroUSB: ( http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Universal...ories_MobilePhoneChargers&hash=item3f3f329a3f ) and as you can see it only uses 2 Pins out of the 5 pin connection, So Making a Dock ported Qi Reciever is definitely possible, It would be helpful because instead of wasting £60+ I could just make my own with a regular flipcase by dremeling out a inner square on the plastic place so the Qi Reciever would slot in
What I meant is that you can't insert the coil into phone itself, like you can easily do on Galaxy S5 or certain models of LG G3 regardless of the type of case you might or might not use. You can certainly attach all kind of crap on the outside of ANY phone, you can do that even with Apple devices. And if you think you can easily embed the Qi coil into existing flip case and make it look as good and be as reliable and long-lasting as Sony's own Qi flip case - well, good luck
I've been looking for the same. I've thought about making my own, but I need a low profile male recepticle for the charging port.

[Q] Dumb Blonde Question

When through laughing, would someone please tell me exactly how to line up the qi receiver onto the battery? Mine finally arrived and am not certain which direction it should go and also onto which contacts it should be placed. The pic on the peel-away paper shows the tab facing right (when looking with the back off), but the contacts I see are to the *left* of the battery, in the shape of an "L". (0ver where I placed my micro card). Am I confusing different types of contacts? Cannot find a video for Edge and understand it looks different than Note4.
Advice greatly!!!! appreciated!
Thanks,
qi addict
Yes it is those 'L' shaped contacts. Just line it up so it the cutout area of the sticker covers the two bottom contacts when you are looking at the back of the phone with the camera to the top. And make sure the QI sticker is definitely for the Edge. It will stick to the battery and cover the sim card slot when installed correctly
Sounds like a Plan
millab said:
Yes it is those 'L' shaped contacts. Just line it up so it the cutout area of the sticker covers the two bottom contacts when you are looking at the back of the phone with the camera to the top. And make sure the QI sticker is definitely for the Edge. It will stick to the battery and cover the sim card slot when installed correctly
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Great. Will try it out and see. The qi sticker came off Amazon from who-knows-where. It was specifically packaged for the Edge but who knows for sure? It's that inexpensive black Qi charger/receiver combo being sold by several outfits. Whoever did the translation to English on the box did a *horrible* job - sort of looks like a joke, but the parts were nicely packed and protected and the charger plate is taking a charge, indicator light on, etc.
Appreciate ,your response, thanks!!!!!
Would you mind sharing the product link if it's still working well for you? Any NFC issues or other problems?
Thanks!
Iclover
spycedtx said:
Would you mind sharing the product link if it's still working well for you? Any NFC issues or other problems?
Thanks!
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Sorry about delay in response. I purchased the Qi charger and receiver set through Amaz. from Iclover. Thanks to Millab's confirmation, I installed it. It's been working. As others have stated, it leaves a very slight bulge in back but the Edge flip cover fits anyway. It is taking an average amount of time to charge (obviously wont charge fast like the charger it comes with). No complaints so far. It IS charging through the flip cover.
When traveling around, I am keeping the Edge, in the flip cover inside a second case - the XXXL Sideways Deluxe Suede Holster Case by All_instore, edge side facing the folding edge, to protect the edge panel.

NFC hacking for Qi Aftermarket

So, just some questions I'm hoping might be answered here.
I have the BLU Pure XL and I found an aftermarket QI receiver which seems to work; except I suspect that sticker on the back cover is the NFC tag assembly and it blocks Qi.... so one of two questions:
Any idea if it can be removed without too much difficulty? I was thinking of taking a razor blade and trying to shimmy under it, since it's almost certainly just glue. I'd try this on the book cover first, of course.
Second option, is based on the internals of an NFC tag... is it realistic to reposition the tag somehow? I'm sure I could use some speaker wire or something to make the connection to the phone antennae....
Anybody have any suggestions for how a human might go about hacking this together? At the moment I simply have the receiver outside the phone's shell (worth noting that it does indeed fit underneath it though!) and I'm thinking I'll just let the black silicone case I have coming hide the cable. Ideally though I'd like to get the qi working underneath the case.
Not that it would seem anyone cares, but I have found out some helpful information:
1. The receiver does fit under the back cover of the phone
2. The NFC antenna is basically a sticker. Peel carefully and it can be re-applied without issue, if you need to remove it to get rid of interference with the Qi. Best place to hook it up is under the metal contacts - but BE GENTLE.
I'm hoping to figure out if I can get some kind of antenna that fits somewhere and works to have both at the same time - as it stands the only way to retain your capacity for NFC is to have the Qi receiver on the outside of the phone.
Another update: don't do this. It really is not worth the effort - I cooked part of my back cover, so now there's a big blemish there.
Probably my fault for using a cheap universal receiver, but either way the damage is done. Be careful!
TheLastCanadian said:
So, just some questions I'm hoping might be answered here.
I have the BLU Pure XL and I found an aftermarket QI receiver which seems to work; except I suspect that sticker on the back cover is the NFC tag assembly and it blocks Qi.... so one of two questions:
Any idea if it can be removed without too much difficulty? I was thinking of taking a razor blade and trying to shimmy under it, since it's almost certainly just glue. I'd try this on the book cover first, of course.
Second option, is based on the internals of an NFC tag... is it realistic to reposition the tag somehow? I'm sure I could use some speaker wire or something to make the connection to the phone antennae....
Anybody have any suggestions for how a human might go about hacking this together? At the moment I simply have the receiver outside the phone's shell (worth noting that it does indeed fit underneath it though!) and I'm thinking I'll just let the black silicone case I have coming hide the cable. Ideally though I'd like to get the qi working underneath the case.
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which receiver did you go with
"Another update: don't do this. It really is not worth the effort - I cooked part of my back cover, so now there's a big blemish there.
Probably my fault for using a cheap universal receiver, but either way the damage is done. Be careful!"
See my most recent post here.
Anyhow, for the receiver, I went for a generic one off eBay. Cost about $3, and then a $20 qi pad, for the fat lot of good it did me. I don't really think you can get these receivers "professionally" anyway. Exercise caution, I've got a permanent blemish on my back cover now because of it, and things might have been more awkward. I would definitely advise against putting it UNDER the cover, as the only saving grace is I had it externally.
I wish this phone had wireless charging
CCJ22 said:
I wish this phone had wireless charging
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It's not wireless, but I did find these wicked neato adapters on eBay that are basically the micro-usb equivalent of magsafe.
They're $5 CAD a pop, but it's almost as trivial to hook the phone into charge/take it off with these, and they are absolutely safe. Also reversible.
Basically there's a small nib you leave in the phone on a permanent basis (well... removable, obviously, but you get the point) that isn't much more obstructive than a qi receiver anyway, and then there's an adapter that takes any normal micro-usb in and gives it a magnetic snap head to hook onto this nib.
Just eBay "micro-usb magnetic" and it should pop up at around $5 with free shipping.

Best wireless (Qi) back for N910?

There don't seem to be any OEM Qi backs left., which is what I wanted. I got an aftermarket one, which is as thin as the stock non-wireless back, but that 1) doesn't fit all that well; there's always a gap at one corner or other, depending on which end I start with when putting it on, and 2) is at least moderately durable.
The one I have is starting to split, 3 months in. It charges fine (800mA at 5VDC, which is better than my Note 3 with OEM charging back)
So... if you are using a wireless charging back, which one are you using, and how do you like it?
BTW, I've been using a number of these wireless charging docks ($10 on amazon) and they're great if you want a spot you can just plonk your phone down and have it charging.
Hello, I'm using this on my phone and it fits and works perfectly.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DB899XQ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Here is the back I purchased.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DB89ACG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I use it with this charger. I read a lot of reviews that the wireless charging is very slow and someone even said it was more like a toy... For me, the wireless charger easily charges my phone as fast as a 1 amp charger. You do have to have a minimum of a 1 amp wall adapter.
https://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Cha...90870&sr=1-11&keywords=wireless++fast+charger
EDIT: I forgot to mention, I use a rubberized case with my phone, so it is rather thick and have no issues using the charger with it.
I think the charger and back that bishop mentioned are fine. I used similar, but I actually stripped the charging circuit out of the back, removed the black plastic cover and put it into a standard (genuine) Samsung back, which I know fits perfectly. In fact, I bought 2 of these backs and stripped out the charging circuit in both. I put one in a standard back and another in a Samsung S-View cover because the Charging S-View cover from Samsung is no longer available. Now I have the choice of either S-View charging or standard back. charging for when I use the VR headset. BTW, looking at the circuit for the backs I used, it looks like NFC is in there as well.
I bought two different Qi receivers (and used the original back), and I regret it. The first one died after a month or two, and the second one heated up the phone while charging and ruined the battery.
So I broke down and bought Samsung's wireless charging back, and it has been working perfectly.
where i can find original oem samsung back QI ?
dhplap said:
Hello, I'm using this on my phone and it fits and works perfectly.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DB899XQ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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I also use this back, (sold under the h-ber brand name on amazon) and it works fine. Of course the back does fit a little tight, and sometimes, you have to put it on the bottom (near USB port) first, or the clips don't clip.
I have phone in a incipio case which is two layer TPU and polycarbonate and pretty thick, but it charges fine.
https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Inci...rd_wg=FFUej&psc=1&refRID=S732EGM8V4C7ZNFQBR6C
I have used a samsung fast charging qi dock, and a pleson fast charging dock, which both work fine, but will only charge at normal qi speeds due to lack of qi fast charge support on the note 4.
I get the original one for $60 in my country
d4rkkn16ht said:
I get the original one for $60 in my country
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BO in my country ...
i'm not able to find it on internet to. It's just fake or aftermarket
dave457 said:
I think the charger and back that bishop mentioned are fine. I used similar, but I actually stripped the charging circuit out of the back, removed the black plastic cover and put it into a standard (genuine) Samsung back, which I know fits perfectly. In fact, I bought 2 of these backs and stripped out the charging circuit in both. I put one in a standard back and another in a Samsung S-View cover because the Charging S-View cover from Samsung is no longer available. Now I have the choice of either S-View charging or standard back. charging for when I use the VR headset. BTW, looking at the circuit for the backs I used, it looks like NFC is in there as well.
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What are you doing to hold those stripped pieces in place? Is it just packed so tight that you don't need anything or did you attach it somehow?
bagery77 said:
What are you doing to hold those stripped pieces in place? Is it just packed so tight that you don't need anything or did you attach it somehow?
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I just put the circuit panel onto the phone in the right position and then glue on the cover and then fitted the cover without moving the circuit panel. Press down well and the charging receiver is now glued to the case and in the correct position.
dave457 said:
I just put the circuit panel onto the phone in the right position and then glue on the cover and then fitted the cover without moving the circuit panel. Press down well and the charging receiver is now glued to the case and in the correct position.
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Thx a bunch for your prompt response. Sorry, what kinda glue is this? I know it gets hot back there and I've never been this best at choosing proper adhesive materials. I'm specifically using this setup for a contraption I found for the gear. I purchased a built in back but don't trust it's quality. Here is the gear contraption. It will be my 4th fan setup but this time, wifi charging is a possibility:
http://m.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Gear-...885580?varId=422849940618&txnId=1757397302002
bagery77 said:
Thx a bunch for your prompt response. Sorry, what kinda glue is this? I know it gets hot back there and I've never been this best at choosing proper adhesive materials. I'm specifically using this setup for a contraption I found for the gear. I purchased a built in back but don't trust it's quality. Here is the gear contraption. It will be my 4th fan setup but this time, wifi charging is a possibility:
http://m.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Gear-...885580?varId=422849940618&txnId=1757397302002
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I just used all purpose glue.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bostik-Al...hash=item257277c46d:m:mFfuep7JS04lusjdXPKR7fA
Samsung wireless charging cover on Amazon.
https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Wireless-Charging-Cover-Galaxy/dp/B00OP5SAAI
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Thx a bunch for your prompt response. Sorry, what kinda glue is this? I know it gets hot back there and I've never been this best at choosing proper adhesive materials. I'm specifically using this setup for a contraption I found for the gear. I purchased a built in back but don't trust it's quality. Here is the gear contraption. It will be my 4th fan setup but this time, wifi charging is a possibility:
http://m.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Gear-...885580?varId=422849940618&txnId=1757397302002
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I used double sided tape when I did mine - not quite as permanent as glue, just in case it moved before the glue set.

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