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Hi guys,
sorry, if this has been answered before, however, I did not find an exact answer to my problem anywhere so far.
That problem is, that I've been facing a serious slowdown on my Desire S lately. In September, when official ICS came out for this phone, after the installation I was very happy with the upgrading: the system was very fast without any delays, had a very quick response, I would say, it was faster then Gingerbread.
But some weeks later (obviously after istalling some apps) it has become "lazy" in some cases, had not so quick response anymore, but still was Ok. However, the situation got worse and worse, and now practically every action takes seconds to start/run, ex. opening call history/recent calls, messages (often more than 10 seconds to open), camera (usually 7-8 seconds). Another strange thing is, that when somebody calls me, I have to wait usually 2-3 second after accepting a call in order to be heard, of when I receive a message, first the phone vibrates and 1-2 seconds later comes just the notification sound. Not to mention, that the Sense interface almost never reacts smoothly.
Sometimes it has better days, but sometimes it completely makes me mad. Anyway, it's a significant slowdown compering to Gingerbread or what I have used to regarding this phone.
Some background info:
Internal memory "All applications" option: 335MB used, 799MB free
"Running" option: 495MB used, 100 MB free
SD card: 7GB used, 426MB free
Quadrant Standard measurements: Total: 1392, CPU:2282, Mem: 808, I/O: 2659, 2D:100, 3D: 1109
- I don't really know, whether these numbers are good or not, but at least could be compared to another Desire S results with ICS.
So first I would like to know, whether somebody else is facing the same issue as well, and on the other hand I would be more than happy, If someone could tell me, what could cause the problem, or what to try that might be helpful. Every idea would be highly appreciated.
Thanks a lot in advance!
ps: I was thinking about installing some custom ROM, but I'm a bit afraid, that I could "brick" my phone, and on the other hand I did not really find a usable step by step instruction, how to root a Desire S with hboot version 2.00.002.
Installing a custom rom won't brick youre phone. Unless you dont know what your doing or youre messing with it. But i had the same problem to on official update of ICS after that i decided to install an ICS custom rom.... And never had problems too. Iam using ICE DS rom. for about 3 a 4 weeks it's a fine rom. But because i like play heavy games i decided to use shadowhawk rom sense 3.0. But i've tried every single ICS 3.6 rom of Desire s. And i had never some slowdowns on ICE DS. Its a great allrounder with a Nice interface. Just try a custom rom.
Every rom had its benefits. And its disadvantage
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Why don't you try and free some decent size, say around 1 GB on the card. I suspect you may have moved some apps to sd and they may be finding it difficult to run.
Since initially your phone was ok with the updated system.
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ICS rom has worse multitasking, apps are killed even when 150MB ram is free
So I'm stuck in a contract with my Xperia Arc S until next year but it has virtually ground to a halt. I have to wait 10+ seconds for my messages to open on a good day. Every app takes a long time to do anything and I've had to limit my app usage heavily due to this.
I close all non-essential apps through the Manage Applications option of the Settings regularly and still I only really have approx >20 MB RAM left at any point.
I also delete all my messages regularly and don't use any other message applications aside from the stock app.
I'm not running ICS, but rather the original Ginger Bread that came with the phone.
I've tried using a different Home Launcher app to reduce the number of home screens, but it had very little noticeable impact.
My question is what do I do? I'm happy to root, install custom roms etc at this point, I just want my phone to be useable until I upgrade next year.
I have some experience with Android phones but very little technical knowledge to do with hacking/rooting devices so you'll have to bear with me. Any advice will be much appreciated.
Cheers
Check out this thread I just made
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2344474
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I have to admit that I'm getting upset about my N5 several times a day now. Since I updated to Lollipop, I'm experiencing random issues with WiFi and 4G data connectivity, my LG G Watch is randomly disconnected sometimes and the worst thing presubably is the memory leak bug - when the phone is running for a few hours, I can't even browse the web with music playing in the background as the music is stopped when I open up more than one tab in Chrome. Obviously, I don't even think of navigating with Google Maps while playing music, and the Google Now launcher is redrawing every time I hit the home button.
I actually never had a custom ROM on my N5 as I was happy with the unmodified stock ROM, but now, I really need to get another ROM to be able to properly use the phone again.
After quickly browsing the forums, I think Cataclysm or something like CM12 or Paranoid Android is what I'm looking for. I figured out that the first one is based on 5.0.1 while the latter are based on 5.0.2... is there any noticable difference? And the most important question: Is the memory leak bug fixed in one of those?
Which ROM would you recommend if I just want to have a ROM that runs very well overall (I don't want to be required to flash every weekly build for bugfixes) and is updated fairly fast when new Android versions are released?
Either downgrade to KitKat (my recommendation) or wait for 5.1.
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I have to admit that I'm getting upset about my N5 several times a day now. Since I updated to Lollipop, I'm experiencing random issues with WiFi and 4G data connectivity, my LG G Watch is randomly disconnected sometimes and the worst thing presubably is the memory leak bug - when the phone is running for a few hours, I can't even browse the web with music playing in the background as the music is stopped when I open up more than one tab in Chrome. Obviously, I don't even think of navigating with Google Maps while playing music, and the Google Now launcher is redrawing every time I hit the home button.
I actually never had a custom ROM on my N5 as I was happy with the unmodified stock ROM, but now, I really need to get another ROM to be able to properly use the phone again.
After quickly browsing the forums, I think Cataclysm or something like CM12 or Paranoid Android is what I'm looking for. I figured out that the first one is based on 5.0.1 while the latter are based on 5.0.2... is there any noticable difference? And the most important question: Is the memory leak bug fixed in one of those?
Which ROM would you recommend if I just want to have a ROM that runs very well overall (I don't want to be required to flash every weekly build for bugfixes) and is updated fairly fast when new Android versions are released?
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There is no memory leak. Most reliable ROM is stock one. I would recommend 5.0.1, root, remove bloatware (yes, even Google can do that) and integrate all updates into system. Off course as @_MetalHead_ said, with 4.4.4 and Xposed you will also get a SuperRom.
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Either downgrade to KitKat (my recommendation) or wait for 5.1.
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So the custom ROMs won't help with the issues I'm experiencing?
Downgrading to KitKat wouldn't be pretty as I'm using Lollipop's DNG capture feature with "L Camera" a lot...
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There is no memory leak. Most reliable ROM is stock one.
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But what is this about then? http://www.techtimes.com/articles/2...-android-5-0-1-lollipop-memory-leak-issue.htm
YassinTP said:
So the custom ROMs won't help with the issues I'm experiencing?
Downgrading to KitKat wouldn't be pretty as I'm using Lollipop's DNG capture feature with "L Camera" a lot...
But what is this about then? http://www.techtimes.com/articles/2...-android-5-0-1-lollipop-memory-leak-issue.htm
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Custom ROM will only bring you more issues.
"The thread reveals that several Nexus devices ranging from the Nexus 7 (2013 model), the Nexus 4 and the Nexus 5 were affected by the bug." (from your article) - I own all of them and never ever experienced such a bugs on non of them.
There is a lot off diferent users with their own habits and (no)knowledge. Google must answer some way.
YassinTP said:
I have to admit that I'm getting upset about my N5 several times a day now. Since I updated to Lollipop, I'm experiencing random issues with WiFi and 4G data connectivity, my LG G Watch is randomly disconnected sometimes and the worst thing presubably is the memory leak bug - when the phone is running for a few hours, I can't even browse the web with music playing in the background as the music is stopped when I open up more than one tab in Chrome. Obviously, I don't even think of navigating with Google Maps while playing music, and the Google Now launcher is redrawing every time I hit the home button.
I actually never had a custom ROM on my N5 as I was happy with the unmodified stock ROM, but now, I really need to get another ROM to be able to properly use the phone again.
After quickly browsing the forums, I think Cataclysm or something like CM12 or Paranoid Android is what I'm looking for. I figured out that the first one is based on 5.0.1 while the latter are based on 5.0.2... is there any noticable difference? And the most important question: Is the memory leak bug fixed in one of those?
Which ROM would you recommend if I just want to have a ROM that runs very well overall (I don't want to be required to flash every weekly build for bugfixes) and is updated fairly fast when new Android versions are released?
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Frank by Sykopompos .........For the N5
YassinTP said:
So the custom ROMs won't help with the issues I'm experiencing?
Downgrading to KitKat wouldn't be pretty as I'm using Lollipop's DNG capture feature with "L Camera" a lot...
But what is this about then? http://www.techtimes.com/articles/2...-android-5-0-1-lollipop-memory-leak-issue.htm
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Honestly, I've had nothing but problems with Lollipop. I've tried stock, and a couple custom ROMs and there was no difference. I don't think it performs that much better than KK and I'm also not a fan of how it looks so I decided to keep all my devices on KK. Hopefully 5.1 will take care of all of the issues, I might upgrade then.
Or stay on LP and use this fix: http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/arm-arm64-android-5-0-lollipop-t3032247
Primokorn said:
Or stay on LP and use this fix: http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/arm-arm64-android-5-0-lollipop-t3032247
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Doesn't have much effect, if any at all, people said they still have "memory leak issues".
If anything, there are probably multiple "memory leaks", and non-developers on XDA will spam links to "fixes" in every single thread/forum section, every time they're posted, and are under a placebo effect.
Then there are also the people who spam about Android 5.1 as if it's a huge improvement over 5.0–5.0.2.
The best band aid for this I've found is to use a kernel with zram compression like Faux kernel and the FauxClock app. I never though I'd have to resort to using compressed ram on my Nexus 5 but it was a godsend on reducing launcher redraws on an HTC Evo LTE running Sense with only 1GB of ram. The issue still pops up but much less frequently for me. BTW I have not run any comparison testing and this statement is pure anecdotal. I just have repeatedly observed on the same rom with the same exact setup for 2-3 months that using 3 kernels without zram required a reboot every day. On the same exact setup with zram I could go 3-4 days. A repeatable test for me was to browse on Chrome for a bit then go to the home screen. Without zram the launcher would redraw almost every time which was the same issue I had on Sense. With zram the launcher never redrew. Poo on Google for letting this issue go on this long without a fix.
I finally went back to lot kat for the same reason a month a go and couldn't be happier. The aggressive memory leak caused me to reboot several times a day. I liked cataclysm, but it's a modified stock nexus rom. So it contains all the same bugs the stock nexus rom does like the memory leak. It only adds new features.
Android lollipop memory leak not fixed in cm 12.1 with android 5.1.1 sources!!
I am using cm 12.1 latest nightlies which is based on android 5.1.1 sources and still I am faxing the lollipop memory leak issue and applications are restarting and the free Ram reduces up to 400 mb with no reason and the Apps will start restarting. I don't know when this memory leak will be fixed!
Is the Shield Tablet even worth rooting. I mean, it is stock android with Nvidia stuff. And rooting it just takes away the Nvidia logo when turning it on, and its few apps that do more good than harm. Is there a mod out there that will beat out Lollypop? Only thing I can really think of is Carbon KitKat, and I'm not sure if the Tablet runs crappy because of the hardware or because of the software. I haven't been in the scene for a while (and when I was I wasn't there for long), but my swag snapback wearing friend put Cyanogen on his phone (yes, they're evolving) from the Cyanogen website. Has this in it's essence killed the development for systems since they made it easier to run the OS? Much of the ricing vocabulary is jargon for me, so please explain it instead of avoiding it, for example I don't know the difference between a root vs. recovery vs. rom vs. kernel and TWRP vs ClockworkMod, Unofficial mods vs official.
What do you guys run? What do you recommend visual appeal, and what do you recommend for performance? Can I possibly run Carbon Kitkat while keeping the nVidia apps?
Mehhh I only rooted for xposed modules... honestly stock lollipop with a ntfs SD card to get around the SD card issues and root really isn't a factor in performance. Just using like gravity box and an ad block. I think if you have a lte version it may be more useful so u can mess with radios but I can't vouch for that.
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I only rooted for viper audio. Major improvement then without
I'd say its definitely worth it for the fact that you can move all your games off of the internal storage onto the SD card using virtualized directories (ie FolderMount) so the data appears on internal storage but actually resides on your SD (load times have been fine for me with a 64 GB class 10, HL2, Portal, TT Games, etc.)...although I'd probably root either way just for a few specific root apps and the fact I root every android device I ever get.
Side note: PLEASE don't use NTFS on flash storage (unless you absolutely have to)...it doesn't know how to cope with it and over time will have degraded performance. Use exFAT, it was pretty much made for this purpose. I've heard people having issues with exFAT on the shield (specifically 128 GB SDs it seems), but my 64 GB worked perfectly on KitKat and now on LolliPop
Since you're not familiar to the terminology, I'll give you the "concise" (I sometimes ramble...) summary of my understanding:
1. Rooting is giving yourself full administrative power over every single file and operation on your phone. Use this power responsibly, meaning think twice before executing a command and bear the consequences like an adult (or enjoy the benefits like a giddy goof!)
2. Recovery is a partition on your device's storage. Stock recovery usually only automatically performs the one task of factory reset/wipe of your device's data, but a custom recovery can allow you to flash (install) programs or even a customized version of the whole operating system (a custom ROM).
3. ROM technically stands for "Read-Only-Memory" but these days it refers to the actual operating system that's residing within that read-only-memory. You've heard of the Cyanogen ROM, which really means Cyanogen's customized operating system for your read-only-memory.
4. Kernel is basically a magical piece of software that tells your device's hardware how to function. So, if you use the wrong kernel, your device's hardware won't know how to function properly and you'll run into problems. But using a customized or optimized kernel will allow your hardware to function much more efficiently or unlock abilities that your hardware didn't know it could do (e.g. undervolting to save power, communicating with USB devices via USB on-the-go, etc.)
5. TWRP and ClockworkMod are both examples of very popular recovery partitions. Some people prefer one over the other. I personally like TWRP because it has an easier to use interface for me.
6. Unofficial vs official mods are best discussed using an example like a cyanogen ROM. An unofficial cyanogen mod means that it's not officially made by the Cyanogen team and is therefore not supported so you can't go crying to Cyanogen if you've messed up your device using an unofficial mod. Official mods are the stuff officially released by Cyanogen and will be fully supported by their team.
I hope the above helps with your understanding of some terminology. Below, I describe my opinions on whether rooting / custom ROMs are worth it.
I'm currently using the nVidia stock firmware, so I'm not using a custom ROM. The downside is that I miss out on the great customized features like clearing all recent apps from memory, or holding the Overlay button to switch to my last-used app, etc. The upside is that I get to use the nVidia-specific features, such as stylus-only mode (I use it a lot for annotating PDFs / research papers / drawings etc.) or the Console Mode for when I hook up the tablet to the big TV. I've tried a custom ROM and loved the somewhat increased smoothness and extra features, but I personally wanted the nVidia-specific features more than the custom features.
That said, I have rooted my stock nVidia firmware because I wanted to block ads without downloading or purchasing an additional app. I've used the root privileges to allow me to modify my hosts file to redirect ad URLs to 127.0.0.1, which gives those ads no data therefore effectively blocking them. That's all I use my root privileges for, and some of you might think "that's it?!?!" and to that I say "yyyyyyup".
Long post, but congrats for making it this far and thanks for reading!
amartolos said:
The downside is that I miss out on the great customized features like clearing all recent apps from memory, or holding the Overlay button to switch to my last-used app, etc.
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Since you're rooted, check out the app "Recently" from Chainfire - it provides much better control over the stock 'recents' menu as well as the option to clear all.
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An Droid said:
Since you're rooted, check out the app "Recently" from Chainfire - it provides much better control over the stock 'recents' menu as well as the option to clear all.
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neat, i didn't know they made such an app! thanks =)
ben.nesheim said:
Mehhh I only rooted for xposed modules... honestly stock lollipop with a ntfs SD card to get around the SD card issues and root really isn't a factor in performance. Just using like gravity box and an ad block. I think if you have a lte version it may be more useful so u can mess with radios but I can't vouch for that.
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Same thing I do. I rarely flash a custom ROM if the device is stock or near stock android. Simply rooting, installing an adblocker and installing xposed framework is good enough for me.
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Rooting is Evolving
To me for buy the shield tablet is going beyond on your imagination, why don't try something new, come on is a piece of hardware, you just installing a software and why not with a such powerful device,you don't want more juice and control.
My ST LTE root and some utilty and tool apk got between 60000 and 62000 in antutu performance and stability, but careful in what you do.
I see many people doing modifications and having many issues and then spending a lot of time having to mess with their devices in order to get them back in order. If that's your thing great and I used to be one of you ...
... but these days I try and consider very carefully everything I do so everything works rather than spending hours basically being a mechanic if you want to use a car analogy. I want to drive my car not spend most of the time fixing it.
I see people with a lot of issues after they've done a lot of "do it because it can be done" modifications, their devices become unstable and then they don't know what caused it due to having five or ten major modifications.
One at a time:
1. Nandroid Backup.
2. Do 1 modification
3. Use your device for a day
4. If everything is working, go to 1, otherwise see 5.
5. If everything is not working restore backup from 1. and start at 2. again.
Now my opinions (as a half interested longtime Android user and a new Shield Tab user) are:
TheSkywayBridge said:
Is the Shield Tablet even worth rooting. I mean, it is stock android with Nvidia stuff. And rooting it just takes away the Nvidia logo when turning it on, and its few apps that do more good than harm.
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It depends - if there is some added functionality that you cannot have any other way then yes.
Rooting by itself actual does nothing to the ROM but it allows other applications that might change your boot logo. What will change your boot logo usually is using a custom ROM or kernel.
But you can absolutely make any firmware better by rooting your device for example by installing Viper4Android which will improve sound quality and a ton of other stuff.
TheSkywayBridge said:
What do you guys run? What do you recommend visual appeal, and what do you recommend for performance? Can I possibly run Carbon Kitkat while keeping the nVidia apps?
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After a few devices it's been my preference to use stock ROM's with custom kernels (sometimes) because I mainly use my phones and tablets to play games and with some rare exceptions the dev community doesn't get to the performance level when I benchmark them.
If I never played games then CM and other custom firmware is better.
Unless I'm mistaken there is no CM based ROM that allows Nvidia Shield Controller usage so for me personally it's even less appealing as a prospect on the Shield Tablet to not run stock.
Since I'm a new Shield Tablet user I've only used some LP version (which arrived with the tablet) then had an awful experience with Nvidia's OTA update when I attempted to update to MM after no mods :|
However I went back to LP v5.1.1 and it's an amazing tablet again which doesn't surprise me as it usually seems you need to stick 1 major version behind on Android if you want to customise it and run apps you like sometimes.
I'm now going to apply a custom kernel onto stock firmware as this has often been the "winning" combination if you want to evaluate ROMs using benchmarks.
Hi there,
I am using a samsung S7 since almost two years now, stock android. I am still super happy with it, except i see 32 GB internal memory, and it's almost full. Of course i could always remove some apps and docs, but here's the catch : i don't have that many apps, and all my personal files are in my 128 GB SD card.
I used to install modded Roms on my previous devices; that is how i heard of XDA forum, and i know there are skilled people around here I had the same issue with stock galaxy S5, and when moving it to Ressurection remix (which is a super Rom for that device), I noticed that i got back most of my internal memory. So my guess is that space is used by some backup when upgrading (which i did, from Marshmallow to Oreo, one at the time).
Either that assumption is correct or not, do you have any suggestion to get that space bac ? Else that the obvious moving to some Mod Rom ? Not that i don't like the idea, but as everything is set and working well for me now, i'd like to keep it that way. Just freeing that grey space.
Thanks for reading me, and for your comments !